oh my god I feel so cool

Isn't it summer where you live

Sounds like you should turn down the AC

my desktop just glitched out and decided to not respond to half my inputs, so I unthinkingly hit Alt+SysRq+I (which kills all processes in the current terminal session) and it actually worked

@RydwolfPrograms I'm not going to dignify that with any further responses

but anyway I feel very 1337 h4x0r

If you have ever used SysRq you are part of an elite club of people

I used a keyboard shortcut that's from like 1980 to restart a modern piece of broken software

@RydwolfPrograms yeah I had a whole rant monologue about it earlier

and I just actually had an excuse to use it :D

it's the same high you get when you find a problem solvable with a grappling hook or blockchain and actually solve it

SysRq? My laptop lacks it. Nor Pause, nor Break. Dang.

F

oh yikes, Alt+SysRq+I kills all non-init processes

@mousetail I suppose that answers that question

huh, for me just pressing Alt+SysRq switches the current console back to the one running X

or no, it goes back to the previously seen console

hey @RydwolfPrograms a friend of mine sends their condolences for your server

they what now

they send their condolences for your server

why

(being hit by lightning)

oh

the server wasn't hit

it was my router

ik

Please don't scare me like that Ginger

I SSH'd the second I saw that expecting like, a massive DDoS or something 💀

lmao

sorry :b

Minecraft server on the 18th

Minecraft server on the tomorrow (hopefully)

Remember, if you're starting a server, lmk and I'll let you do it on rtowolf directly

actually nah I'm gonna hold off until ChatBridge is done

Unless you're running some shady mods

g2g now, we can discuss that later

@RydwolfPrograms whatever gave you that idea?

o/

\o

I wonder what the performance of a server on the VM would be

Honestly probably not too much worse

Except you don't have a port for it

Wait actually that'd be an issue, I want to host a vanilla survival server and you want to host a modded creative one. We only have one port. I can give you a non-25565 port I guess...

Alternatively I can get some static IPs from AT&T for $5/mo (well it's probably gone up) but then I'd have to update my DNS

> 5G (Edited per community guidelines)! AT&T NEEDS TO SERVICE REAL HOMES, WITH REAL FIBER; REAL COPPER CABLE; REAL ETHERNET; EVERYTHING WIRED AND U-VERSE TOTAL HOME DVR READY- A 100% WIRED U-VERSE USING 100% F-TYPE COAX FROM THE NID/ONT! ;NOT JUST BE INTROVERTED MONKEYS ON CELL PHONE TOWERS! SIGNALS DROP ON WIRELESS, ESPECIALLY WHERE THERE ARE TREES!

God I love this rant

The "(Edited per community guidelines)"s interspersed throughout it are just, chef's kill

*kiss

chef's KISS

Okay wtf is this bug in the front-end chat markdown

*_kiss_ renders as _kiss for a second

I don't even wanna know

How does chat have two markdown engines and they're both cursed as all (Edited per community guidelines)

maybe the preview engine is regex-based

@Ginger I'm user, not god. Easy mistake to make

@RydwolfPrograms Unrelated, but my favorite tech support post is one where the employ was referring to someone called Harshit or Nishit, but they put asterisks in place of shit everywhere so they had "Har****"/"Ni****" all over the answer

Actually, it was probably Harshit, not Nishit, because I definitely would've remembered seeing Ni****, way more hilarious

@UnrelatedString On the one hand, that kinda makes sense for performance. On the other, why?

It's okay to load the comment a few milliseconds late

good fucking question

My univ consists of two campuses. Is it just my speculation, or is the primary campus actually copying departments from the secondary campus?

They copied the department of self-driving cars.

Now you see the thing here is that the name of the video game in question is actually SimCity

Which obviously doesn't fit into 6 letters

So I want to know how did the nyt get sieity from simcity

Also wow the rebus button actually has a use

@RydwolfPrograms shit, you're right

🤔

@RydwolfPrograms don't ask questions like that, you won't like the answers

the frontend markdown "parser" is indeed regex-based

I just don't understand how the chat devs sleep at night

@lyxal holy shit what

@UnrelatedString can't tell if it's an error or something actually intended

simity? sicity?

@UnrelatedString not yet

gl

not until tomorrow :p

@Ginger implying they remember it exists

10:58pm is way too late to be doing crosswords where e/mc is one of the squares

That is unironically one of the squares

hmm

it's that rebus button we were talking about

and apparently, it's an actual thing nyt does sometimes

nytimes.com/2017/06/01/crosswords/…

wait like as a mechanic in the puzzle itself

like as a hint or something

that's a pretty lame hint if it just tells you a letter for free :P

as in part of the answer

you have to get the entire square

oh, like you have to put the rebus in yourself

you do

the fuck

and you don't know where it goes

like that

so you just have to find some thematically appropriate square that has c in it, and put e/mc there

it doesn't have anything in it

wh

ik

goofy

so goofy

one thing I'm starting to realise now that I'm doing NYT crosswords is that there's a fair bit of bs clues

yeah lmao

did not realise the mini crossword played jazz upon solving

got jumpscared by a crossword

amazing

This westom person is crazy

I've seen them ranting all over the internet about ethernet surge protectors

With the same nonsense every time

First coax guy and now surge protector guy

Why is every other person discussing networking completely insane

amazing

You should be able to send laptop battery power over the internet

@UnrelatedString I guess that'd explain it :p

Oh no my battery icon is red now

Maybe one of my parents is home and can bring me the charger

yikes

Yay one is home and said they will

@lyxal at least it’s not the square root of a cheeseburger

@lyxal E is clearly the best way to combine M and C into one letter: turn the M sideways and squarify the C

@RydwolfPrograms so a friend of mine just came up with "ChadGPT"

I think you know what must be done

Have yoy ever eaten a garlic knot with no garlic or salt that is also freezing cold

Because I now have

It smells like garlic which is the worst part

Like they got the smell right but it has no actual garlic, butter, or anything else

So y'all know how the bread coating on a fried food is supposed to be crunchy, and the food inside is supposed to have a meat-like texture?

Well it's opposite day motherfuckers

> Some farmers have experimented with guard lamas. They are unusual animals because they literally stare danger in the eyes and actively approach lurking predators. Wolves seem to be freaked by this and tend not to attack.

I live in the correct universe

ಠ_ಠ

remind me never to fuck with llamas

This is def how pawns move

(@lyxal)

@RydwolfPrograms I drove past a farm with some llamas the other day. I made sure to avoid looking them in the eye and kept driving at a steady pace.

I've just had a rather awful night dream.

In the dream, I got suspended in the Puzzling SE because I was "not respecting cryptic clues".

I'm so relieved it wasn't real

you were cryptically cut off from continued confounding conundrums?

????

it's alliterative!

I liked how it sounded to me so I put it here

✨alliteration✨

@Ginger *continually

holy hell

room joining works!

:D

im still working out the kinks in my room cataloger

i can confirm there are 680 unfrozen rooms in the stackexchange network

@Ginger I must be severely out of the loop, why is it so surprising that you can join a room?

I'm writing a custom chat client

it runs in a terminal

Oh no they're onto me

@Seggan hah, I just only show the first page of rooms and use a searchbar for everything else

who needs pagination anyway?

@Ginger i parse the first page for the number of pages, then parse each page

alright, good luck

I can join multiple rooms now, but leaving them's a bit weird

Textual is still in beta so I'm having to do some cursed stuff to make it work nicely:

self.tab.update(cast(Tag, heading).text)

def updateBar():
    parent = cast(Tabs, self.screen.query_one("Tabs"))
    parent._highlight_active(False)

self.tab.call_after_refresh(updateBar)

@Ginger dont need it, im done with that bit

ah

if I still had a Mac, I would totally write one for iOS in Swift, because the in-browser chat client for mobile is not great

Xcode is way too heavy of a process to run in a VM, sadly

I’ve had it use up to 670% of my CPU and the vast majority of my RAM (idr the exact number but there was less than 1 gig left)

if you do, youll need a lot of html parsing

yeaaaaaaaaah

I’ll use a regex

*cries in Beautiful Soup*

@Bbrk24 NOOOOOOOO

you know what happens when you do that

@Ginger Someone wrote a Swift version of that actually

ಠ_ಠ

github.com/scinfu/SwiftSoup

Alternatively I could pass it to a WebView

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Now that I’ve had the idea I really want to make this. How much is a macbook?

oh noooo

(probably too expensive)

@Ginger You crash Xcode?

More seriously, the regex literal /(?<>)/ would cause Xcode 14.0 to crash

might be misremembering the syntax slightly but it was a named capture group with an empty name

@Bbrk24 you dont know?

No i do

we’ve all seen that infamous SO post

aww i was gonna repost it here

I don’t like that it’s locked because that means I can’t upvote it

yeah true

The hardest part would probably be the login screen, because you can use like three different login methods

I use the password login system

Using code I stole from whoever made chatbot.py

Fun fact: the whole reason I made sechat was because I was infuriated with chatbot.py

@Ginger Ah, well I use Google

And I do still have an Ubuntu VM. I could install Swift on that and either write a TUI or link against some C graphics library

I have had the idea of writing a SwiftUI-esque wrapper around some C library. I wouldn’t know which C library to use though

$ swift repl
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "<string>", line 1, in <module>
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'lldb'

I must've forgotten to install something

There is a rogue rooster in my workplace

Of all the times to go on break why'd I get now :(

@RydwolfPrograms sounds like someone should Cock-a-doodle-doo something about it!

I got Swift working now

@Ginger Is sechat open source, by any chance?

@Bbrk24 it sure is! (although I don't think it has a license so I guess I'll license it to you)

@Bbrk24 this is so very cursed

I just want something to go off of so I don't have to reverse-engineer chat from scratch

yeah I wouldn't wish that on anyone

@Ginger forums.swift.org/t/swift-repl-no-module-named-lldb/60275

please tell me that's not a Python import error

it is

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

W H A T

what's weird is, everything still works

I'm going to purge that from my memory

also, I hereby license sechat's auth code to you for use in this project under the same terms I licensed it to Seggan

Sure, but where is it? I don't see it on your github

look closer :b

Oh I was looking at Ginger-Industries with a hyphen

which does have a project called "Fix GingerBot"

yeah, that's also me

huh

that org's mostly for parking purposes, I don't think I've ever used it

(except for that)

> as wel as that

you didn't even spell "well" right smh my head

f

    try:
        cookies.load(cookiePath)
    except FileNotFoundError:
        self.logger.debug("No cookies found :(")
    else:
        return True

what the heck is else: doing here

return True, it says it right there

what does try/except/else even mean?

the else block runs if no errors were caught

why not just put return True at the end of the try block?

because if cookies.load errors it'll never run

Isn't that the point?

$ git commit -m "init() {}"

*** Please tell me who you are.

Also, new git who dis

@Ginger hey wait does that mean all projects that use sechat need the licence?

no? because if it errors execution will go to the except block and the whole thing will return None

@lyxal shit, I guess it does

fortunately nobody except me is using it

What, then is the difference between:

    try:
      foo()
      bar()
    except:
      baz()

    # and

    try:
      foo()
    except:
      baz()
    else:
      bar()

@Ginger which licence you choosing?

@Bbrk24 in example 1 if foo errors then bar will never run, but in example 2 it will

@lyxal IDK yet

just kinda been not thinking about it d:

I suggest MIT

@Ginger I thought you said the else: block only runs if there are no errors

If it runs even with errors, what's the difference between else and finally?

@Bbrk24 wait, yeah

nvm lol

I'm sure there's a difference tho???

I think it's the "bar() never throws" bit

async def doSELogin(self, host: str, email: str, password: str, fkey: str) -> str: What's fkey?

@Bbrk24 part of the chat auth system; why do you ask? that method isn't the one you call for logging in

the user's supposed to call authenticate

of course, duh, why would a method called "do login" perform a login

:P

akshually that method does SE login, not chat login q:

but yeah I guess I should rename those methods

not like anyone's going to use them tho

@Ginger looks at vyxalbot2

you sure about that?

Also I use Google OAuth, not a SE password

in the future, if you're wondering about why some part of sechat is the way it is it's almost certainly because I was pretty much the girl in the right panel of xkcd.com/2730 during its development process

@Bbrk24 you can't use it then, sorry

sechat only supports password auth

you can add multiple login methods fwiw, so if you add a password it'll work

Oh! Let me see then

I'll log out and brb

aight

I might have already done that

thgia

...where's the logout button

there is none, you're trapped here with us forever

gosh dangit stackexchange do I have to go back to the main site to log out