in any case i at least understand corn better than baked beans

how did anyone even come up with baked beans

eurgh

just kinda earthy

also reminds me i had century egg last week; i'm... not sure i'm 100% on board with all of those flavor notes but it's a nice change of pace at least? and pairs nicely with chilled tofu

wholeheartedly recommend trying it yourself if you ever get the chance

@UnrelatedString Can't find any sources providingg info on the why, but it apparently originates with native americans, who'd use maple syrup

interesting

Baked beans are good tho

In the context of bbq

Especially with big bacon chunks in them

i don't think i've ever tried them, despite having been served them at least once

they're just too viscerally disgusting to look at

> at least once

the smell doesn't help either

Am I too southern united states for this I see them at like half of family gatherings and at least monthly from a can at home

i'm honestly not too big on barbecue in general come to think of it :P

It's good tho

@RydwolfPrograms i'm also southern but i'm city southern with all of my extended family in the north :P

i guess this isn't really a city city but it's a college town so probably even more people from out of state proportionally

lol

also nc isn't, like, deep south

the one time i'm sure i was served baked beans was on a trip to sc

@RydwolfPrograms that does sound pretty good though

I remember seeing a thing in AP Human Geo once with like, fast food menu items from around the world, and one in like, somewhere in Asia was "texas BBQ" and it was shockingly accurate lol

kinda sad i've never seen or heard of it with bacon before

because i imagine that could really bring it together

@RydwolfPrograms amazing

Like we were just like "that's just a smokey moe's [whatever their basic meal is called]"

The graveyard where my grandfather is (never knew him) has a big bbq every year lol

Not really sure why

lol nice

But it's good

One time on a road trip I passed a bbq place right next to a funeral home...breathing in smoke around there must be quite the gamble

LMAO

"ooh brisket"

"OH GOD"

@RydwolfPrograms lmao

brisket <3

I can't believe he hasn't given up yet

Brisket's good tho. I can see people going either way on the sausage but if you don't like brisket idk

i assume he has given up on the translator by now and just won't admit it

oh yeah i get tired of brisket real fast but those first couple bites are pure bliss

Do you prefer the dry brisket or the...whatever the opposite of dry brisket is

i imagine it's less overwhelming in like a sandwich or something

(moist? ew. wet? EW. not sure.)

no idea

@RydwolfPrograms I do not like this sentence

You should take a buzzfeed quiz

@UnrelatedString I really do not like this sentence

@Ginger akshually it's a noun clause. would you like me to make it a sentence?

How about

I thirst for corn semen

is that better

akshually, it was in the context of the previous message, which made it a full sentence

not really

"so it was like corn semen" is a sentence

We should ask english.se

a disgusting one, but still a sentence

uh let's not

I don't want to be known as the Corn Semen Guy

yes you do

no I do not

What's up CSG

that title is wrong in a variety of ways

I would like to know what the additional ways are

it just started raining here, you made God cry

was it really as bad as pepsi crab

look, if Rydwolf wants to be known as the Corn Semen Guy forevermore on English.SE, go ahead I'm not kinkshaming

@UnrelatedString yes

I would like to discuss something else now

Let's do that

> OP TEXT 2

yeah

I'm taking my AP Bio test soon

@DLosc There's a T

It's just hard to see

outlines are important :P

thatsthejoke.jpg :P

Google Drawings can't do outlines :(

are you a top or a bottom text

i actually made a shitty script for easier text outlines in gimp like two weeks ago if you want it

I have an app idea

I instantly regret that sentence

🥺

I have become the very thing I swore to destroy

There are seven restrooms at my high school

So what if I made an app where people can report the status of them

monitor use so you know which one to go to?

ooh

please tell me that has no relation to your app idea- frick, it does

E.g., "has no soap", "smells like weed", "multiple guys vaping"

@UnrelatedString Probably they had boring white beans and thought "How can we make these taste better?"

i wish my uni's damn gyms had that

So you could just open the app and see "orange wing restrooms: all good, last updated 10m ago"

@RydwolfPrograms would a high school restroom ever not be multiple guys vaping

it'd be funny if you actually made the app and then someone made a script to blast it with "full of beans"

if I went to your school I'd do that

Then if you go and walk straight into shower levels of humidity, you can report that and it'd change the status

@RydwolfPrograms I wouldn't consider Nebraska southern, and I had baked beans quite frequently growing up. Got some in my fridge right now, in fact.

or even better, actually fill it with beans

it wasn't that bad when i was in hs but it was starting to get there in my last few months

@Ginger There would only be a few options, not any text you want :p

or creamed corn

@UnrelatedString Surprisingly yes

wow, nice

@RydwolfPrograms tragic

me omw to abuse the app's servers to make a chat system

it'd use a base-(number of options) encoding

if you use websockets I might even be able to get a reasonable transmission speed

so in other news I started work on the Chat Bridge MC mod

so true

thanks chat for not letting me resend that message

as I was saying, it really made me realize how much better Kotlin is than Java

my confidence fell significantly when I launched the game with the mod installed for the first time and almost instantly had it crash

KOTLIN FOREVER

@Ginger did you forget forgelin

and the error was one of the, like, eldritch-horror-type errors that indicate that something is horribly wrong with your code

@Seggan I considered it but ultimately decided I didn't want to do another two hours of configuration

@Ginger do we’re actually having a cgcc server

@Ginger then how are you using kotlin

are you writing the annotation parts in java

@Seggan I'm going to start one (once Rydwolf's servers are back up ofc)

@Seggan I'm not

just use fabric's kotlin bindings :)

I'm writing this mod in Java and it sucks

forge sucks

society has progressed past the need for forge

@Ginger realizes 2 hours of configuration would be better than using java

I am writing this mod in Forge because it will be used alongside mods that only support Forge

f

my days of Forge-Fabric turf wars are over

do not involve me in your disputes

Relevant xkcd:

anyway, I started the game with the mod installed, opened a world, and it instantly crashed because it somehow couldn't find the Socket.IO client library

I have absolutely no clue how it launched and loaded the world without crashing

really what this tells me is that there's some cursed shit going on inside Forge

@Ginger what build system u use

@Seggan gradle

are you shadowing your dependencies

probably not

Dependencies don’t magically include themselves in your jar

;-;

I guess that makes sense, but how the fricknuts did Forge load my mod without crashing instantly

is that socketio lib something you added to grade or part of forge

it's an external dependency, I put it in the dependencies block

probably forgor 💀 to shadow it or smth

Yep, you need to shadow

just add the shadow plugin to the plugins block

that's not included by default?!

thanks forge

*gradle

is that all I will have to do?

in annoyed too

@Ginger yep

As long as forge is compileOnly and not implementation or api

no other magic incantations needed? no Eclipse reconfiguration? no summoning of Ba'al the Soul-Eater to take me away from this mortal realm of settings and requirements to Dependency Heaven?

because I've had to do that a lot

just might want to add this to the bottom

tasks.shadowJar {
    archiveClassifier.set(“”)
}

augh smart quotes

that’ll replace the original jar with the shadowed jar

@Ginger yeah mobile be like

is Eclipse going to use shadowJar for building tho?

cmon I gotta stop pressing that star button

I bet it won't and I'll spend an hour screaming inside

@Ginger WHY ARE YOU USING ECLIPSE

(but yes, it should)

IT'S OFFICIALLY SUPPORTED BY FORGE

USE INTELLIJ

It has the Minecraft dev plugin

[me when Notepad++ is the only tool I checked off on the SE dev survey]

Also looking at forge docs you don’t need a special ide, just gradle

but the Minecraft dev plugin is great

docs.minecraftforge.net/en/latest/forgedev/#intellij-idea

that's the second laser-crab invocation in 20 minutes, smh

JetBrains lost my patronage when they made it as difficult as possible to use Kotlin with anything that isn't IntelliJ

I sometime write Kotlin in vscode

how is it hard

I will never use IntelliJ, unless it's Android Studio because I don't have a choice there

@Seggan suppose I'm an innocent developer who wants to try out Kotlin. I go to the downloads page and I see this:

no indication that any other IDEs are supported, even unofficially

incredible

after a bunch of digging, I eventually find the standalone compiler download, and I see this:

You don’t need the standalone compiler tho, gradle handles it for you

but they don't say that anywhere! I could easily decide to download the compiler and then spend hors trying to get it working, not knowing that any other options exist

they do mention that other IDEs can be used here, but that's not linked anywhere from the get started page

and it's hidden in a corner of the docs where I sure wouldn't go looking initially:

all of this sure looks like JetBrains wants to discourage you from using anything that isn't IntelliJ

@Ginger *hours :|

@Ginger Our Tool Is Very Useful And Wonderful You Should Use It Why Would You Ever Want To Use Anything Else

Microsoft be like

In terms of how easy it was to start coding, Scala (or any JVM language) < Haskell < Python < JavaScript.

I don't like it when you have to install multiple tools before you can even compile a Hello World program

the only wrong part of that chart is the positioning of ActionScript

ActionScript should be off the chart to the bottom left

What, why? I never found ActionScript hard to use.

ActionScript can yeet itself off a clif

everything about it sucks, it is a dumpster fire given digital form

especially if it uses Adobe AIR

Can you be more specific about what you didn't like? (Or if it really is "everything," then I just have to disagree with you.)

well let's see here

I once tried to get an ActionScript program running on a Raspberry Pi

it was hell

I compiled at least 3 different Flash interpreters

none worked

none provided any useful information

I discovered that it was because of Adobe AIR, but couldn't figure out anything else because of the impenetrability of it

I gave up after wasting 2 hours of time on it and never even getting a glimmer of success

Okay, so I'm getting "Lack of Raspberry Pi support" and "Doesn't support easy hacks/workarounds"

it's about as easy to use as I'd expect for a language from 1998 that last got a stable release in 2006

no, actually it's worse; C is that old and much easier to work with (although I don't like C much either)

call me old-fashioned but I don't think programming languages should require enormous platform-specific closed-source interpreters to run

So my ActionScript experience is that I used it to make stuff in Flash between about 2004 and 2012. It was a bit odd in an old-JavaScript sort of way, but it did the job it was supposed to do, and you could embed the resulting .swf file in any webpage. Since the other languages I knew were QBasic, C++, C, and Python, this was the only way I could program something and share it with people online. And it had vector graphics!

alright, I'll grant you that: in its heyday AS was probably nice to use

but it is no longer that time

Right. Nowadays, I'd use JavaScript instead, but it's still not quite as easy to work with if you're doing vector graphics and animation.

@Ginger I think this makes you new-fashioned rather than old-fashioned. Expecting things to be closed-source and platform-specific by default is old-fashioned.

oh right lol

@Ginger have you tried ruffle

written in rust :tm:

yup! first thing I tried

didn't work

@Ginger The dot for Haskell should go underneath the word "weird" in "Good weird"

hm

I just noticed the right side of the diagram was looking pretty empty

yeah, most languages (that I use) are either sensible or kinda wonky

and good-weird languages are usually easyish to install (Kotlin is the exception here)

kotlin is easy to install too

(Though I guess where you put Haskell on the "easy to use" axis depends on whether you include the process of learning it. Once you understand Haskell, it's not too hard to install and write code, although the pure functional nature makes it hard to do certain things. But learning Haskell in the first place is pretty hard.)

if you have gradle no install is needed at all

@Seggan So you need to install Gradle, is what I'm hearing

which is easy enough

easier than node

it took me a long time to figure out how to install node

I will concede that sudo apt install gradle worked for me

today in awful advertising:

that screenshot is of the entire visible area of the webpage

almost 2/3rds of it is an ad

have you seen fandom?

yyyup

this is interesting

maybe I could use it with Snowy? they're already slow enough

the best I can say is that it's probably not impossible

ive repurposed my old acc into segganbot so i can have a puppet for my chat client

great, I'm surrounded

mwahahaha

I HAVE INTERNET

Shortly after I booted up rtowolf it went down and all the lights on the front of the router started blinking red

Hopefully they are not connected

note to future bot writers: not using cookies is a bad idea

@RydwolfPrograms :D

Okay, trying to boot rtowolf again

fingers crossed

The DHCP seems to have given it the right IP from before

So it knows it exists at least

that's good

Well that's from last time

Right now it's still POSTing

hate it when my server goes POSTal

Okay we about to fedora

you forgot the "m'lady"

Silly hat is ago and everything seems fine

I had to read that a few times

(assuming you meant "is a go")

Ayy it knows it's called rtowolf now

Time to port some forwards

exciting!

wait, what?

oh shit right your router got replaced

Literally took clicking two buttons lol

big brain

Since I had already added the two custom port definitions I'd be adding and it defaulted to those for the dropdown

And rtowolf was at the top of the list since it booted most recently

what, actually well-made router software? impossible

Seems all they really did was reskin the one from the old router. It's faster too which is nice

a lesser-noticed casualty was your Who's Typing userscript

wait what, it's working fine

oh, you're on mobile or smth

Who's Typing is hosted on my droplet

rtowolf doesn't actually host anything

yeah I just remembered that lol

Also it's not looking good for your VM working first try

A minute into "Raise network interfaces" already

shit

yeah that is not a good sign

Wait hang on I didn't actually bring up the bridge after restarting

big brain

Trying again but I think I broke something by trying to do it when the VM was already up

Oh wait I see what the issue is

It's that bridge-nf-call-iptables conflict with Docker

lemme add that to the networking script

ಠ_ಠ

Your server's up now

Have fun

Took the AP Bio test

And I forgot a calculator

@RydwolfPrograms :D

Was fine up until one question on the FRQs

uh

I had to do

LONG DIVISION

AUGH

And I'm not a fuckin 10 year old so I have no clue how to do that

So I got it wrong :(

RIP

Ended up with plenty of time, but boy was that the least productive 15m of my life

huh, why's Snowy not back?

guess I'm gonna have to do a little restarting

Could be because networking didn't come online until after boot

I systemctl restart'd it to get it to work

Since I had to make that quick change to the bridge iptables thing

that's probably it yeah

Nice thing is this new router's got a WAP built in

So I save an ethernet cable/port on the router

my mind did not go to "wireless access point" upon seeing that acronym :/

sometimes I worry about what the Internet has done to my brain

Yeah that was a bad year for Wireless Access Points and World History AP

And Ben Shapiro for other reasons

*hacker voice* I'm in

Vyxal Bot's back! restarting Snowy

aaaaaand

SNOWY LIVES

we're back baby

We love Snowy

Snowy's the best

Wait I have fiber?

The cable running into my router is labeled "ONT"

Best part is Buff Simon was made by some furry artist on DeviantArt

And it just happened by chance to be the image I double clicked

take it back now yall

w h a t

first: why do you even have that image

second: how do you know where it came from

explain yourself at once

I've written up a pretty long description on where Buff Simon originates from

reddit.com/r/tipofmytongue/comments/p8t87l/comment/hoveeoy/…

you WHAT

I have many more questions now

I saw it on a Matt Rose video and my curiosity was pieked

unrelatedly Prideifier has an actual URL now

@RydwolfPrograms oh, that explains it

> In theory and in application, data travels more efficiently as "light" inside the fiber lines compared to electrical signals in copper wires; hence, FTTP connections can support up to 75Mbps+ speeds or even 100Mbps if I remember it right.

Lmao this is how you know a post is old

crunchy

Back before 10 gig is a thing you can apparently get

Which I still highly doubt

Looking at you Comcast

@RydwolfPrograms Now you have to look into the camera and say, "America, I am not smarter than a fifth grader"