The Sand Trap

Rydwolf Programs

00:00

We have this set of fondue stick thingies

They're color coded so you know whose is whose

oh no it's u t c m i d n i g h t

Ginger

They're color coded so you know whose is whose

lyxal

Midnight

Rydwolf Programs

They really are color coded tho

So you know whose is whose

But yeah, there's this purple one

Ginger

whee utc hiccups

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And I know it's purple because it looks purple, and the ones before it are the rainbow

But my family insists it's brown

user

00:01

Maybe it's brownish purple

Rydwolf Programs

And I have a theory this weird similarity between purple and brown explain why brown M&Ms exist

Ginger

show us an image

Rydwolf Programs

@user Doesn't exist

user

Put it on r/Askreddit and see what the top minds of Reddit think

Rydwolf Programs

Brown is dark orange, and orange and purple are roughly complementary. They'd turn into gray

@Ginger I'll try to capture one, but digital representation of color doesn't tend to do well with purple, and I'm afraid this may be violet

Don't get me started on purple(s) guys

Ginger

00:03

color profiles go brr

Rydwolf Programs

Anyway I gtg

user

Ginger

bye

Rydwolf Programs

@Ginger Exactly. I'm worried the color profile of the camera I use will bias the results

@user I hate that color. My parents' bedroom walls used to be that color.

Ginger

AAAAAAA

your parents' taste in color is appalling

Rydwolf Programs

00:04

I'd just call that desaturated magenta

I mean it looks like brown mixed with purple but every color looks like a color mixed with another color, in infinitely many ways

And mixing complementary colors would indeed just desaturate one of them

Anyway o/

Unrelated String

01:30

it's not like an intrinsically bad color but holy hell yeah what why would that be used for INTERIOR WALLS

Rydwolf Programs

Wish I knew

They also paired it with similarly desaturated greens and off-whites/yellows

Which it looked slightly better with ig

lyxal

02:16

@RydwolfPrograms laughs in purple

Rydwolf Programs

Well is it magenta or violet? Our eyes see them similarly for complex reasons but they're actually entirely different

[continues to talk for 15 minutes]

lyxal

I do a little trolling

user

03:07

@RydwolfPrograms smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-03-22

Why is that a gif?

Rydwolf Programs

That's the sort of image that gifs would compress well

Oglaf uses gifs too

user

Oh

lyxal

@lyxal ~~just realised this makes me the dragon behind the slaughter~~

user

I really wish SMBC had better SEO so that I could've just searched for that when we had that conversation about turning off disgust

With xkcd, you can just Google some keywords and you find the comic

Rydwolf Programs

Same with oglaf. I was working on transcripts for oglaf until Google banned the gmail account I'd bought the domain with (likely due to suspicion of phishing)

Tbf xkcd doesn't do anything different SEO wise, it's just explainxkcd and xkcd being quoted all over the place that allows google to "read" xkcds

@RydwolfPrograms fuck I think I'm just bi

user

03:18

Bidensexual?

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in The Nineteenth Byte, Mar 27, 2022 at 3:29, by Radvylf Programs

The two lock eyes, knowing they only have seconds to be with each other. It's love at first sight. Biden tries to wrap his arms around the mysterious stranger, to be taken back to the helicopter, but before he can manage this the stored mechanical energy in the bungee cord tears the two away from each other. Biden sits down on a bench nearby, knowing they'd never see each other again.

user

Dangit, ninja'd

Rydwolf Programs

(to be clear Joe Biden is not included in the people I may or may not be attracted to regardless of his gender, sorry sleepy joe)

That would be pretty funny tho wouldn't it

user

Okay but what if you were locked for a year in a room with only pictures of Joe Biden eating a sandwich? Would your opinions change then?

Rydwolf Programs

I would probably want a sandwich before I would want Joe Biden

4

Anyway, 'night o/

lyxal

03:49

CMQ: Favourite XKCD character?

user

04:10

I mean, they're not consistent

I'd go with Cueball. Amazing actor, great range

Rydwolf Programs

04:41

LMAO bisexual visibility day is my birthday...the signs have been all around me

Unrelated String

04:52

nice

lyxal

@RydwolfPrograms yeah well my birthday is on international mud day, and you don't see me being made of mud do you :p

lyxal

05:14

(for legal reasons that's a joke and not meant to undermine anyone's identity)

(just in case anyone takes that the wrong way)

user

@RydwolfPrograms Wait how do you go that long without knowing?

No offence intended but you're not some homophobe who'd deny to themselves that they're bi

Doesn't everyone consider their sexual orientation at some point in their teens?

Unrelated String

05:28

not sure i really conceptualized myself as actually bi until last year, i.e. when i was 20 :P

then again my parents are lowkey homophobic so

user

05:41

Huh

Unrelated String

05:53

it's not like it's a meaningful part of my identity one way or another at this point in my life

like there is zero chance i'd be dating men or women until i have a job

Rydwolf Programs

I mean I just never really thought of guys as like...an option?

So when you include what's probably a nice dose of internalized heteronormativity and probably closer to a 75/25 attraction to females/males than 50/50, I can see why it took me so long to realize

And plus most guys are either ugly/dumb or definitely straight

@user 17 ends in teen doesn't it :p

@lyxal dw, your secret is safe with us lyxal

It would be pretty interesting if who you were was a result of the day you were born on. Unless you were born on World Tuberculosis Day, that is.

Even worse, it's the same day as International Day for the Right to the Truth concerning Gross Human Rights Violations and for the Dignity of Victims

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LMAO

lyxal

06:59

As I sat having a haircut and a beard shave, I realised 3 things: 1) it's much easier to imagine conversations between store employees than it is random passer-bys 2) it is impossible to blow air up over your nose to remove irritating hairs and 3) thank frick people eventually stop being pubescent teenagers

Unrelated String

are you actually growing and styling a beard or do you just not own a razor

lyxal

07:13

It's easier than doing it myself

Unrelated String

also i would assume way more expensive?

especially if you're doing it every day or two

lyxal

Every 3 months

Unrelated String

so you basically grow your beard out for three months and then shave

lyxal

Yee

Unrelated String

yours must grow in way nicer than mine lmao

lyxal

07:15

It stays reasonable in that time

It doesn't get real thick at all

Just intolerably long after a while

@UnrelatedString also every day or two?

Ain't no way mine grows that fast

Unrelated String

i have reasonable-looking stubble for like three days after a shave, four max

so i just shave whenever i shower

even after three some patches can be too long to get with just the normal head on the razor lmao

lyxal

@UnrelatedString oh so you try and keep it as stubble?

Unrelated String

i mean yeah

lyxal

Ah

Unrelated String

it looks like shit if it grows out further :P

lyxal

07:28

Mine looks best after a month or so :p

Even two months lol

Unrelated String

and if i were to try that again i would definitely not want to be seen with it in an intermediate growing-out state

nice

yeah mine is insanely curly and way thicker on the neck than on the face

lyxal

So it's not a matter of it growing slower, it's a matter of being fine with a longer beard :p

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i'd probably have to shave half of it for the remaining half to look alright anyhow :P

lyxal

@UnrelatedString I think that's typical of most people with facial hair

Unrelated String

unfortunate

lyxal

07:42

Also, "We found love" by Rihanna started playing while I was there and I couldn't help but think of Tom Scott and Matt Grey singing "we flew a kite in a public place"

emanresu A

Oh yeah that's hilarious

Unrelated String

08:09

lmaoooooo

Ginger

11:22

@RydwolfPrograms one of us! one of us!

:p

*adds another nickel to a small pile in the corner*

Bbrk24

11:56

It’s that time of year again, where it’s 50° in the morning but 80° in the afternoon. What do I even wear

Ginger

~~do what I do and don't go outside at all~~

Bbrk24

If I do end up wearing shorts today — which if not today, I will soon — it’ll be the first time I’ve done so since I started shaving my legs

Ginger

12:31

thanks VSCode, very cool

Rydwolf Programs

13:24

The steering wheel of my dad's truck/my truck makes me hands stink

I don't understand

Like, I can fully clean and sanitize both my hands and the steering wheel, then I drive to school and my hands smell bad

Must be some sort of like...chemical reaction

lyxal

Sounds like it's your chemical reaction

Rydwolf Programs

I've decided that driving with paper towels wrapped around my hands is too dangerous and wasteful for that to be a long term solution

So I'm not sure what to do

It's occured to me from a google that it might be the steering wheel itself disintegrating into smelly subcomponents given that it's a solid black object in a ten year old vehicle in Texas

@UnrelatedString idk if this'll change as I get older but I can go like two weeks between shaving since my face hair is super thin and light colored

Rydwolf Programs

14:34

I hate how vague the SOCKS5 standard is

Different implementations do much different things in different edge cases

I guess that gives me some freedom to kinda do whatever, but still annoying

Rydwolf Programs

14:52

@lyxal I never imagined you as having facial hair lol

Altho tbf in my imagination you look more like a light gray stick figure holding a short sword and/or a long knife

user

@RydwolfPrograms Same

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That or a pair of legs on a playground slide

user

Although I mainly imagined lyxal as a cartoon flower

Rydwolf Programs

Not a lenny face?

user

@UnrelatedString I initially interpreted this as you only showering+shaving every 3 days lol

@RydwolfPrograms lol

When I first saw lyxal, his pfp was a white cartoon flower on a black background, so that's what he looks like in my mind

I'm thinking of growing a beard myself

Rydwolf Programs

14:57

You gotta do the emo haircut too

user

My razor is getting blunt enough that I have stubble even after I shave

It'll cover the acne on my face (and also hide the ugliness a little)

I'm still wearing a mask but I'll just grow a beard before I stop wearing one so people will still have some protection from my mug

Rydwolf Programs

I can't keep drawing beards on Nitro characters tho!

You'd get too hard to distinguish

user

Only problem is facial hair is scratchy and you need to groom it like top hair :(

You can do different styles of beards

Rydwolf Programs

Which is totally not an issue that my current drawing style has

Nope, nosiree

user

Give me a scruffy, unkempt, Stallman-like beard

Give lyxal a distinguished goatee

Rydwolf Programs

14:59

I don't typically put the words "distinguished" and "goatee" together lol

user

That was the joke :P

Rydwolf Programs

ah lol

You should grow a hitler moustache just to confuse people

user

Good idea!

I was thinking a nice big handlebar mustache to twirl but one of those would make me irresistibly attractive

Rydwolf Programs

Yeah but if you're irresistably attractive the endless mobs of hot people chasing you 24/7 provide free transit; you can just crowdsurf anywhere you need to go

user

Good point

Rydwolf Programs

15:03

The privacy and national security concerns around being irresistably attractive just aren't enough to offset the convenience

Unfortunately your lifespan is dramatically reduced if you're irresistably attractive, as stray bullets, low-flying planes, and katabatic winds also find you irresistably alluring

I've got an idea for a way to do text generation way better than markov chains but without neural networks

Ginger

well, running the finished version of my tessellator program crashed the VSCode tunnel :/

hopefully it was a fluke

nice, it worked that time!

okay, who wants a copy of it

totally not asking because I want an excuse to use Magic Wormhole

Rydwolf Programs

15:36

I wonder if a Docker container would be a good way to distribute something like Telepathic Wormhole

Actually it probably wouldn't

A statically compiled Rust program would probably be best

Since no need for Python or a JVM

Ginger

fuck

I think I just deleted the main file

Rydwolf Programs

uh oh I just realized I never actually shrank your droplet...

Can I shut it down for a sec?

Ginger

okay phew I got it back from VSCode's history

@RydwolfPrograms gimme a sec

okay, go ahead

wdym "shrank" tho?

Rydwolf Programs

You're still on 2 vCPUs and 4 GiB of RAM, which is expensive and our research indicated you don't actually need it

Ginger

hmm

oh right, the memory logs

I actually have a concern there

when things like the kotlin language server start, they suck up max CPU... for like a minute

and then they go back to normal

and I don't think those spikes would be recorded in the memory logs

because those only sampled once every half hour

so I may actually need those resources anyway

but we'll see

Rydwolf Programs

15:45

Out of curiosity...are you using this like a remote desktop?

Ginger

wdym?

Rydwolf Programs

With the VS Code tunnel and stuff?

Ginger

I don't quite understand what you mean by "remote desktop"

Rydwolf Programs

Like it's not just for hosting purposes?

Ginger

okay so basically

due to reasons I can't explain here, I cannot do any useful development directly on my laptop, and I don't have access to my Pi for most of the day, so if I want to write code when I don't have access to the Pi I use the droplet

Rydwolf Programs

15:47

Interesting. Your computing setup continues to perplex me :p

Ginger

I'm a mystery :b

regardless, it works alright for me

Rydwolf Programs

(but not my dad's credit card :p)

Ginger

f

Rydwolf Programs

Am I good to shut down and shrink the droplet?

Ginger

yes

Rydwolf Programs

15:51

Hang on can you run curl -sSL https://repos.insights.digitalocean.com/install.sh | sudo bash first? That installs an (official) improved metrics thing

It'll allow me to see a memory graph

Ginger

okey dokey

done

Rydwolf Programs

Got the metrics

Lemme do the shrinking now

Ginger

okie

Rydwolf Programs

imagine this misclick

Ginger

:o

Rydwolf Programs

15:54

Your droplet is taking a loooong time to shut down

Ginger

I'm sure it's fine™

Rydwolf Programs

Okay it is whoomfing now

whoomf being the canonical sound of a server deflating

Huh, it's still only a few dollars an hour for one of those crazy powerful droplets

Okay you're powered on again

Ginger

noice

so do you want the tessellator or

Rydwolf Programs

Nah I'm good

...how do I have two absences in a virtual class

That first one is a virtual class

Also there's a spot where teachers can include comments (according to a small list of options), and in the class where I'm the only student my teacher put "participates well in class" xd

Which TNBer would teach each of these courses:

I think caird, the math major, would do multivariable calculus

DLosc seems like an AP Euro teacher

Or maybe English

hyper would be CS3 ofc

DLosc

@user I'm really impressed with GoComics in this regard--they've got googleable transcripts for a lot of their comics, including for Peanuts (which ran for 50 years--someone did a lot of typing).

Rydwolf Programs

16:07

I think I would teach APUSH

Since that's my favorite class

Ginger would be...idk, maybe Bio or Art History?

DLosc

@Bbrk24 Layers

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I was gonna suggest that but it doesn't really work for pants

Unless you're a 50 year old rural guy with camo pants where the lower half of the legs zips off

"sorry it's really hot in here lemme just take my pants off"

Alternative solution is to not go outside

That's my favorite

DLosc

@RydwolfPrograms [Tony Stark disliked this]

Rydwolf Programs

Lyxal == Tony Stark confirmed

4

DLosc

@RydwolfPrograms Hmm, maybe. TBH I probably know more about U.S. History. Normally I'd say I'm more likely to be teaching CompSci or Math out of that list, but I am on a history kick lately, so it's plausible.

But I don't think your high school probably has a course on the early Iron Age Mediterranean

@RydwolfPrograms Well, that's because our society had decided for some odd reason that clothes that are practical can't be considered respectable... but yes, I do bow to convention and wear long pants to work during the summer, even when it's super hot.

Rydwolf Programs

16:22

I'd guess that the reason is the same as many other things, that being if you're rich you don't need practicality

DLosc

Yes I do :P

Rydwolf Programs

TIL you're rich :p

DLosc == Tony Stark? New hivemind? Lyxaloscstark?

DLosc

Really, if you think about it, I am pretty rich. I have all my needs met with money to spare and I work less than 40 hours a week in an air-conditioned office.

And I still wish that people would design fashionable shirts that don't ride up and expose your belly if you lift your arms above your shoulders. :P

Rydwolf Programs

I happen to have one, by accident

Rydwolf Programs

I have the worst idea

Y'all are not prepared

DLosc

16:29

Okay

Rydwolf Programs

This is gonna take a while. Please don't prepare during that time.

Ginger

oh no

~~rydwolf why is there a ballistic missile alert~~

Ginger

16:48

me when the tesselator freezes the droplet

the thing eats RAM like it's popcorn

Ginger

17:03

@RydwolfPrograms wow, you weren't kidding

might rename Telepathic Wormhole to Wormhole Warren

because it's a network

Ginger

19:17

I've decided to drop the "Wormhole", since there's no way this is going to be inherently backwards-compatible

the project will just be called "Warren" henceforth

DLosc

19:57

@Ginger Named after the 29th president of the United States, I assume? :P

Ginger

20:30

~~yes of course~~

I'll do what Sinatra did and make Harding the mascot :b

@RydwolfPrograms every minute I wait makes me more concerned

I am very concerned

brooo even keyboards have firmware now

it's this all over again

Rydwolf Programs

@Ginger I haven't actually been working on it, I'm in a meeting :p

Ginger

can you at least tell us what it is?

Rydwolf Programs

Here's a skean pkee tho

Ginger

pretty please?

ooh yey

Rydwolf Programs

Ginger

20:38

rydwolf gets sent to the phantom zone

Rydwolf Programs

That will be a pfp

Ginger

~~so when can we expect more info~~

Rydwolf Programs

Be watching the list

Ginger

what?

Rydwolf Programs

And read up on your timesharing

Ginger

20:41

that makes no sense, but okay

Rydwolf Programs

It's critical that you have functioning fingers and an eagerness to not only do, but be

Ginger

are you on drugs or just intentionally trying to be cryptic

Rydwolf Programs

It's all reasonable statements just vague enough to be meaningless

Ginger

~~ah, a politician~~

well I guess we'll all see once it's ready, whatever it is

I'd ask if we're in mortal peril but I don't think I'd like the answer

oh god I have an extremely profuse nosebleed

user

21:11

@RydwolfPrograms This is the 21st century, the new buzzword is cloud

Rydwolf Programs

nuh uh

this project will be firmly underground very quickly, not in the sky

@Ginger Ooh I like that word

Also I recently learned the absolute worst place to get a nosebleed

Working a checkstand at a grocery store

Your options:

1. Let blood drip down your face

2. Pull a wad of blood-soaked tissues out of your pocket in front of the customers, then try to use the other hand to touch their groceries

3. Wipe it on your (thankfully red) shirt until it's soaked

4. Lean over and accidentally drip blood all over the groceries anyway

user

Can't you excuse yourself and call over a coworker to help?

Rydwolf Programs

5. Abandon the checkstand to hunt down tissues, making management very mad at you, and probably committing theft

user

Or do you have an evil manager who forces you to stay there?

Ah

Rydwolf Programs

I didn't do #5 and just waiting half an hour for my break which didn't really fix anything

I was also sick at the time so it was 50/50 blood and mucus

(and they had the audacity to scold me for not exchanging pleasantries with the customers while the sole object of my focus was minimizing how many people I spread what could easily have been covid to)

@user Well, I can't get another coworker to do the scanning (they track our stats and there's legal stuff surrounding the sale of alcohol and all that)

user

21:17

bruh

Rydwolf Programs

I wish receipt paper was more absorbent

I've had to resort to receipt paper for makeshift tissues or band-aids a few times and it just doesn't really work due to the wax coating

And they've started printing advertisements and coupons on the back, so there's a risk of getting ink on your nose or in your cut if you try that anymore

DLosc

21:53

... What level of health problem would you have to have before you're allowed to leave your post?

Rydwolf Programs

22:21

Idk, the rules are kind of vague

But if customers are calling in to complain when all I do is forget to say "have a nice day" they'd probably do much worse if I wandered off for 5m

Rydwolf Programs

22:34

OH MY GOD i forgot how much my physics teacher looks like megamind

DLosc

@RydwolfPrograms I'd be more inclined to complain if there was blood on my produce =P

user

^

Seems like you have some really awful management lol

Well not lol, it sucks

Unrelated String

23:24

@RydwolfPrograms yeah while my scalp hair is dark brown my facial hair is insanely thick and pitch black

Ginger

23:34

okay so I just realized something: I know wayyyy more bi/pan people, both IRL and online, than the percentage of people worldwide who are bi/pan would suggest is common

like half of my friends are bi/pan whereas the average is around 8%

and I guess part of it has to do with my taste in friends but still the disparity is startlingly large

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