The Sand Trap

user

04:16

No. Obviously I prefer to have a computer simulate how I could be healthy while I died deprived of care on the operating table. — armand Aug 6, 2021 at 9:02

@RydwolfPrograms The drug

> given who's talking?

I meant it was like giving someone something wonderful for a short time and then leaving them to be bored for a while after that

Unrelated String

@mathscat is mp 127 still open

math scat

07:49

@UnrelatedString ooh it is

Unrelated String

nice

Unrelated String

09:18

i think this is the hardest i've ever been ratioed on reddit

not like i use reddit much but what the hell lmao

Bbrk24

10:58

@UnrelatedString I could've sworn that Clang with -WCL4 complains about unannotated fallthrough with case 1: case 2: ..., but I just tried and it doesn't.

@UnrelatedString Funny enough I'm the only person I know irl who drives manual

lyxal

11:11

Weezer - Say It Ain't So (8D Audio)

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clearly the best way to torture people. Make them dizzy while weezering them

Rydwolf Programs

13:21

@user Well you're the most hedonistic-nihilist-y person I know :p

"the world is meaningless", "I wsh I could do drugs", or "the former, thus the latter"

That's "you" territory :p

@UnrelatedString I could actually see two competing points of view here. My initial reaction was to agree with the ratio'ers, since I've always just thought of multiple cases as a special case of fallthrough

But then, I remembered due to how switch statements work, any not-insane compiler would jump to the same place for all of the cases

IMO that's just an optimization of fall-through tho, so I'd still consider it that

The compiler warnings angle is an interesting one tho

math scat

13:39

guess what time it is?

Time to install opencv on fricking wsl

user

15:46

@RydwolfPrograms lol

I'm not hedonistic, but I guess I am nihilistic

I'd do drugs if the side effects weren't so awful

Although I guess literally everyone would do drugs if the side effects weren't so awful

@UnrelatedString Context?

DLosc

17:24

How can a person kill a giant ape without using a weapon?

If you're John Carter, you just punch it on the jaw and it falls down dead. :P

Unrelated String

18:17

speaking in terms of the language construct itself, i'm tempted to argue that the compiler implementation isn't even relevant, leaving two points
- syntactically, the case labels have no logical order to them and exist as equals on the exact same statement, so there's nothing to fall through, even though the code can be trivially modified to exhibit true fallthrough
- in terms of programmer intention, there's no way the behavior would be "tricky", i.e. it's reasonable to assume there's a missing break if the programmer doesn't know what they're doing; it's effectively a single case label ma…

@user reddit.com/r/programminghorror/comments/12bwwfd/is_this_okay

user

19:11

@DLosc Drink poison, then let it eat you

DLosc

19:39

@user ... That method has a few drawbacks :P

user

Yeah, it might be hard to get the ape to eat you

Also, the poison might be in a part that they don't eat, or it doesn't affect them

Rydwolf Programs

21:57

@user I wouldn't...

@UnrelatedString I have actually had a bug caused by an empty case statement (a todo, in JS, which doesn't have any sort of todo/...) which I forgot to break

My argument is more that case statements with empty bodies acting as multiple cases for the same code is only the case as a result of an already existing ruleset. Sure it looks like a duck, but it wasn't designed to be a duck, and I already have a simple and clean mental model that explains why it acts like a duck without needing to explicitly work to make it an edge case

user

@RydwolfPrograms Why not?

Rydwolf Programs

Because I, the person not the brain, don't gain anything from that

My brain would love it I'm sure

user

If you could take some performance-enhancing drug without getting addicted or damaging yourself, there's no reason not to take it

I'm assuming you don't lose anything either

Rydwolf Programs

But if I just did everything based off my basic instincts I'd do nothing but attempt to have sex and gorge myself on donuts

user

Except money, I guess

@RydwolfPrograms Well, gorging yourself on donuts is bad for you

Rydwolf Programs

22:03

Drugs might make me physiologically happy but not actually happy

user

Does it matter?

Rydwolf Programs

Yes

user

Just because it's temporary doesn't mean it's worse

Rydwolf Programs

Has nothing to do with time

Of my multiple goals in life none of them are "be as physiologically happy as possible" because that would be a pointless life

user

Then what's the difference between being happy from drugs and being happy from something else? Besides the cost?

Rydwolf Programs

22:06

The commonality between my actual goals (make a difference, have a family, make friends I care about) is that they both improve the world around me, and make me physiologically happy

user

@RydwolfPrograms Surely you don't single-mindedly pursue all of your goals all the time without ever stopping to enjoy life

Rydwolf Programs

Enjoying life is fulfilling my goals

user

Do you never have an ice cream just because it makes you happy?

Rydwolf Programs

Okay yeah, good point

user

@RydwolfPrograms Magic side-effect-free drugs would basically accomplish that

idk, I guess it's pointless talking about magic side-effect-free drugs because they don't exist, nor will they exist in the near future

Rydwolf Programs

22:07

But I think that getting that ice cream is more just the tax I have to pay my dumb monke body to stay physiologically happy and stable enough to pursue my goals

@user What makes you say that

user

If something makes you feel super good, you're probably going to get addicted to it

Even if it doesn't cause long-term physical damage to you

Rydwolf Programs

I'm sure it's perfectly possible to counteract the worst of the side effects of today's drugs pretty easily, we just don't exactly invest reseach money into it

user

I feel like the military's probably researched it at some point

Rydwolf Programs

Because "we want drug abuse to be a more enjoyable and sustainable experience" isn't really something governments do

@user How?

user

They make you happy, you enjoy life, goals fulfilled

Rydwolf Programs

22:10

Drugs wouldn't get me a family or friends (err well...the right kind of friends), and they wouldn't help me make a difference in the world

Those are my goals as a person, which are different from my goals as a piece of meat and bones

user

Then it seems like your goal isn't simply enjoying life, it's enjoying life and getting a family and friends and making a difference in the world

Rydwolf Programs

That is exactly what I said

user

Drugs wouldn't stop you from doing all of that either

Ah

Rydwolf Programs

4 mins ago, by Rydwolf Programs

The commonality between my actual goals (make a difference, have a family, make friends I care about) is that they both improve the world around me, and make me physiologically happy

user

My bad

@RydwolfPrograms I was looking at this

Rydwolf Programs

22:11

Ah, stupid bidirectional is

I meant it as "enjoying life would consist of fulfilling my goals" not the reverse lol

user

I assume being on something most of the time would better help you make a difference in the world

Sad? Pop a pill and get out there to do good

Rydwolf Programs

I think that's a bit different, and kind of interesting to think about

Earlier I referred to the ice cream as like a tax to keep my meat-brain from rebelling against me

Drug use as you describe it almost seems like a sort of soft-transhumanism

user

Hmm yeah

Gonna be problems with poor people not having access to drugs then

Rydwolf Programs

Almost like a less-targetted depression/ADHD medication

(which makes a pretty poor case for their use in that role, not unintentionally)

I'm lucky enough to be pretty consistently happy and don't overly struggle with poor attention span or anxiety, but even then I'm constantly being held back by not being able to focus or getting distracted by sugar (the only drug I'm addicted to :p) or other human problems. This kind if goes beyond the magic-drugs discussion but maybe more development of and open availability of drugs that help you focus and stuff would be a good thing, in that soft-transhumanism sort of way

user

You know what would be cool? A drug to turn off disgust

So if you have to live in squalor, you can just ignore all the filth

This is definitely not something I want because of the crappy dorm I live in

Rydwolf Programs

22:20

...that's pretty dystopian. You should write a YA novel

user

lol

Hmm, maybe the population gets drugs to make them happy all the time so even though people die all the time from famine, diseases, etc. no one revolts

Rydwolf Programs

Also imagine you forget to take the drug one day. It'd be like, the living conditions equivalent of uh...as Wikipedia euphemistically refers to it, "Post-coital tristesse"

user

Oh yeah, sex sorta disables disgust, right?

Rydwolf Programs

That's just called being horny lol

user

Life hack: When walking into a disgusting public bathroom, masturbate. This will stop you thinking about how disgusting the bathroom is.

Rydwolf Programs

22:25

Works in a lot of situations. Long line at the bank on tax day, and the guy in front of you forgot deodorant? Goodbye pants.

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user

Honestly, this works for more than just disgust

Walking through a dark alley and feeling scared by the large figure behind you? Time to give yourself a hand

lyxal

I preferred 10 minutes ago when I hadn't read that sentence

DLosc

^

So I'mma change the topic

user

Good call

CMP: What shall we change the topic to?

DLosc

@RydwolfPrograms I feel like this is too formal for Biden. He'd roll his eyes and say "Can you believe this guy?"

user

22:32

Unless DLosc is typing something very long

Rydwolf Programs

Peanut butter

DLosc

@user This is usually a safe assumption ;)

lyxal

Saw this in a store the other day

user

> Made with Fresh Kangaroo

> Lean Cat

lyxal

Doesn't help that the packaging is purple

user

22:35

Is this cat meat or Kangaroo meat?

Rydwolf Programs

Made with only the thinnest cats, which we starve for weeks in our factory before turning into kangaroo food

lyxal

Y'all the packaging is purple and it's called lean cat.

Stop circumnavigating the funny :p

DLosc

IDGI

user

I must apologize, I am an uncultured heathen and do not understand the joke

lyxal

Lean (drug)

Lean, also known as purple drank, purp, sizzurp, syrup, wock or oil, and several other names, is a recreational drug beverage, prepared by mixing prescription strength cough or cold syrup containing codeine and promethazine with a soft drink. The beverage originated in Houston and is popular in hip hop culture, especially within the Southern United States. == Names == The term lean refers to users' propensity of having difficulty in standing up straight. "Purple drank" references its typically purple hue, as the cough syrups employed are often purple in color, and an African-American Vernacular...

How the hell don't y'all know about this?

user

22:38

Not all of us are drug users like you :P

Rydwolf Programs

Somehow lyxal's heard about "lean", a drug made by mixing cough syrup with various drinks that's IIRC pretty much exclusively local to Houston

ah ninja'd

DLosc

@lyxal 1) Don't use recreational drugs, 2) don't drink soft drinks, 3) not from Houston, 4) don't listen to much hip-hop, 5) not from the Southern United States, 6) not African-American :P

user

^ Same

DLosc

Also 7) very rarely use cough syrup

lyxal

@DLosc All 6 of those apply to me and I've heard about it purely from memes

user

22:39

Well, other than 2, I occasionally consume Coke (no Rydwolf, not that coke)

DLosc

@lyxal Ah, well, then, this hurts my established reputation as a dank memelord :P

@lyxal Do they also have cat food made from emu?

lyxal

Alas I don't think

DLosc

Seeing as y'all historically have tried to get rid of your emus

lyxal

Hence why I say alas

Rydwolf Programs

23:50

Top 5 Reasons Why I Hate Sweden

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I was all ready for learning new political context

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