The Sand Trap

lyxal

01:46

so now they want me to review license terms

despite the fact I've already been using it

Ginger

lol

Ginger

02:11

looky what I did:

lyxal

03:20

Discord’s Smallest Violin (the official release)

►

lyxal

03:48

The Brutal 92% Decline Of Jelly

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try not to think of code golf challenge

(impossible)

mathcat

08:45

Determine if a youtuber is dying.

PyGamer0

09:03

@mathcat good challenge idea lmao

mathcat

restricted-complexity, O(2^n)

lyxal

09:27

Try not to think about code golf challenge part 2

(99% fail)

mathcat

Given an number, determine if the restaurant is chinese in 7 bytes or less.

lyxal

Someone needs to solve that in A Programming Language lol

mathcat

09:57

better ping adam

lyxal

10:54

mathcat

11:11

woah, that's cool.

lyxal

it's the northern lights

localised entirely within a kitchen

Steamed Hams but it's AI Generated

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Rydwolf Programs

15:38

Humans: "Hey we're getting weird diseases maybe we shou-"
The scientists: "B U G E U G E N I C S"
Humans: "Wha-"
The scientists: "B U G E U G E N I C S"

We must make sexy mosquito

Rydwolf Programs

The more I listen to the new Paramore album the more I like it

I think it's a case of the singles not really reflecting the album's content

parz

hi

Rydwolf Programs

Hi!

parz

I have a new favorite song (or, well, two)

Ginger

hey yall

Rydwolf Programs

15:43

Hi!

parz

Hey @Ginger

Ginger

after using Vala for a few days I have decided that it's pretty neat

weird, but neat

parz

Anyone want to hear my current Eurovision rankings?

I’m just gonna post them here for people to get angy at.

(no australia because it premieres in 2 hours HIPE)

Seggan

wait a minute

did matt lowne get ksp2 early

Ginger

me when matt lowne

Rydwolf Programs

15:56

Oooh it's only three days until KSP2

Seggan

scott manley too

@RydwolfPrograms two

Rydwolf Programs

Wait really

What time is it

Seggan

10:56 am

parz

I’m not gonna play it until after I finish up with my normal KSP ideas.

Seggan

more matt lowne ksp2

Rydwolf Programs

15:56

@Seggan I hate you :p

Ginger

lmao

Seggan

idk what you mean /srs

Rydwolf Programs

Oh I was asking what time the game comes out lol

Seggan

oh yay infinite fuel is now in the settings menu

Rydwolf Programs

Ooh nice

We should invest in finding the IRL settings menu

Ginger

15:58

dpkg-reconfigure magic

Rydwolf Programs

relevant xkcd

Seggan

@RydwolfPrograms no more f12ing

finally

oh wow you can set the space agency name

Rydwolf Programs

RCE is my favorite KSP YTer :p

Seggan

whos that

Rydwolf Programs

If your spacecraft isn't a giant uh...strongest shape covered entirely in British flags you're playing the game wrong

@Seggan Real Civil Engineer

Seggan

16:01

mm

mines scott manley, the classic

Ginger

forgive me, for I have sinned

I casted an int64 representing the current Unix timestamp to an uint32 ;-;

Rydwolf Programs

D:

Ginger

apparently the GTK designers don't care about the 2038 bug q:

Rydwolf Programs

Well Y2k38's for signed 32-bit ints

Unsigned gets you 'til Sun Feb 07 2106 00:28:15 GMT-0600 (Central Standard Time)

Ginger

eh, I'm sure it'll be fixed by then...

Rydwolf Programs

16:04

Your program will crash by 2025 tho so no worries

Ginger

huh?

Rydwolf Programs

Knowing you :p

Seggan

seems ksp2 is more cartoony than ksp1, but also more shaded

Ginger

buddy, my code crashes before I start writing it

Rydwolf Programs

lol

Ginger

16:19

oh boy got my first segfault

Rydwolf Programs

segfault-worm.tiff

parz

explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/371:_Compiler_Complaint

Ginger

I wish that Rust had an actual class system so I could do this in Rust instead of Vala

Rydwolf Programs

Daaamn that's some system requirements

Ginger

what

Rydwolf Programs

16:24

> RECOMMENDED:
Requires a 64-bit processor and operating system
OS: Windows 10 64-bit
Processor: Intel i5-11500 @ 2.7GHz or AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-Core @ 3.6GHz
Memory: 16 GB RAM
Graphics: nVidia GeForce RTX 3080 or AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT
DirectX: Version 11
Storage: 60 GB available space

Ginger

...

what graphics card did I say I had again?

Rydwolf Programs

1060

Ginger

it's probably fine

Rydwolf Programs

So you''re just below the minimum which is a 1070 Ti

Ginger

I'm sure it'll be fine

right???

oh wow 60GB of storage

the load times on this thing will be incredible

Rydwolf Programs

16:27

That 1060, assuming it's not a Ti, will be 30% slower than the recommended minimum GPU. You mayyy need to turn down the settings and get a lil pixely

Ginger

fuq

any way I can use my other graphics card to make it a bit faster?

Rydwolf Programs

Probably not. You can look into SLI, but I don't think it works with different models of GPUs

Ginger

also now we know it's raytraced, which I suspected was the case

Rydwolf Programs

Ooh

Also that makes sense now

I've never done RT with my 6950, I'll be excited to see how it does

Seggan

@RydwolfPrograms for ksp2?

Rydwolf Programs

16:29

Yep

Seggan

ouch

Ginger

*shakes fist* you people and your good graphics cards! back in my day we played Minecraft on integrated graphics and we liked it!

3

Seggan

my laptop is like 8 years old

Rydwolf Programs

Minimum is a little more conservative but still...this isn't running on your grandma's computer lol

Seggan

ive got an intel i5 4th gen

Rydwolf Programs

16:30

Unless your grandma's a hardcore Twitch gamer, I don't discriminate

3

Seggan

@RydwolfPrograms i mean it runs ksp1 perfectly with medium graphics settings

as long as i disable the camera shake

@Ginger thats how i feel

parz

‘Lo.

Seggan

i can still play minecraft 1.16 on normal graphics perfectly, newer versions take a bit to load the world, but no lag after that

Rydwolf Programs

Yeah graphics has gotten a little out of hand, doesn't help that the big manufacturers don't seem to be caring much about the budget market right now

Ginger

me when invalid cast from 'GtkListBoxRow' to 'NotesListWindowRowNote'

parz

16:34

o.o

Ginger

I mean that does explain the segfault

Rydwolf Programs

Looking forward to Intel Arc, the A750/A770 have been super promising, something that's a little more stable for the next gen could be really something for the budget market

Ginger

yeah I really appreciate how Vala just let me cast one type into another that had absolutely no relation to it without complaining at all

Rydwolf Programs

As soon as I saw "GNOME" and "compiles to C" in the same sentence I figured it'd be a hacked together nightmare, glad to see my assumption was correct

Ginger

I was about to dispute that characterization but no you're pretty much correct

look, I would do this in Rust in a heartbeat but Rust doesn't really do OOP so it'd just look like C but with better typechecking

I considered Java but my two options for gi bindings are 1. last updated in 2017 and 2. only supports gtk4 and created last month

Rydwolf Programs

16:40

Rust does everything OOP does

It just isn't really OOP in its syntax

Just use Rust, for your own sake

Structs+Impls is just OOP with sprinkles.

Looks like it's gonna be $50, I should preload the money into my account

Ginger

#[derive(Default)]
pub struct CustomButton;

#[glib::object_subclass]
impl ObjectSubclass for CustomButton {
    const NAME: &'static str = "MyGtkAppCustomButton";
    type Type = super::CustomButton;
    type ParentType = gtk::Button;
}

Rydwolf Programs

Make it as smooth of a process as possible

Ginger

I'm sorry what the hell is that

oh, also:

glib::wrapper! {
    pub struct CustomButton(ObjectSubclass<imp::CustomButton>)
        @extends gtk::Button, gtk::Widget,
        @implements gtk::Accessible, gtk::Actionable, gtk::Buildable, gtk::ConstraintTarget;
}

Rydwolf Programs

Okay that wrapper is pretty bad

It looks like they've basically just reimplemented subclassing

That's disgusting

Seggan

@RydwolfPrograms i got a $50 gift card for my bday, perfect

Ginger

16:45

and it's even worse in C, where it's so bad the GNOME people had to invent multiple libraries (GLib, GObject) just to make it even kinda work

no clue why they decided to do it in C of all languages

Using GObject and co. in Python is a joy, but as I have said Python has the worst packaging system of any language I know of

mm yes thank you Vala for not telling me I failed to initialize the Map object I was adding new windows to

ooh, it kinda works now!

Seggan

whatcha workin on?

Ginger

a sticky notes app

Seggan

17:01

for what os

Ginger

~~gnu/~~ linux

although it'll work on any platform that has GTK installed

Rydwolf Programs

The 1600 range of xkcds is so good

I don't think the Lakeshore Air Crash Museum really belongs under 'Tourist Attractions.' It's not a museum--it's just an area near the Lake Festival Laser Show where a lot of planes have crashed.

Ginger

lol

parz

xkcd.com

the new ones are decent too

DLosc

17:51

Okay what

20

A: Italian dust jacket with Harry without his glasses

It's the one showing Harry in a rat hat, a giant rat, and a only slightly large chess board, crediting "Joanne" K. Rowling as the author: "Harry Potter e la pietra filosofale" by J.K. Rowling. Adriano Salani Editore, 1998 first Italian edition first printing of "Harry Potter and the Philosopher...

lesobrod

Why there is no banner that CG is addictive? (-_-)

DLosc

18:31

> Due to the history of this page, and the edit war that's gone on between numerous Wikipedians and User:64.151.18.239, I'm starting to think that user User:64.151.18.239 actually is Matt Scott, 610 Sports Host of "College Sports Saturday", since he's insisting that it be on the page. IMO, the host of a one hour AM sports show really doesn't seem notable enough to mention here. --Hobbes747 16:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Who are you people to determine who and who isn't notable? Some of us feel he is notable, and that's enough for Wikipedia. Not everyone has to agree. Johnny Dare isn't some r…

This goes on for a while

Then, silence. But one and a half years later:

> By the way, Who is Matt Scott??

Bov 19:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Alas, Matt Scott does not currently appear in the article's Notable People section; however, neither does Johnny Dare or Stevie Case. History has not been kind to these local celebrities. ~_~

Seggan

18:55

one thing i see missing from ksp2 is that "how far you are in the atmosphere" thingy

it really helps sometimes knowing the rarefaction of the atmosphere

time warp 0 is really cool too

Rydwolf Programs

19:06

@RydwolfPrograms Aw, mine's super boring

DLosc

@RydwolfPrograms (TBF, I've never actually lived in Olathe. I first tried a place where I have lived and it was boring, so I tried another one in the area.)

Rydwolf Programs

I've tried a couple near me too

The town I live in used to be pretty small up until the last 10 year ago or so

It's grown rapidly (e.g., my house that my parents bought five years ago has doubled in value)

mathcat

@Ginger When I was your age I used to play minecraft on tetris os, and it didn't even lag.

mathcat

19:35

The pro chess league looks pretty exciting

Canadian chessbrahs barely won (even though they had magnus as a roster).

Hikaru and that gotham guy apparently teamed up.

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