The Sand Trap

Unrelated String

01:21

@RadvylfPrograms i feel like reinstalling gimp would be the easier part of that :P

forest

Why did you uninstall GIMP?

It's a fine image editor.

Unrelated String

probably a new machine where it wasn't installed to begin with

still painless to get back

Radvylf Programs

01:57

@UnrelatedString Yep

@forest Wasn't me, it was the rain

I also uninstalled some Minecraft worlds I cared about, months worth of un-backed-up work on various small projects, and about $700

lyxal

02:15

in The Nineteenth Byte, 14 mins ago, by thejonymyster

right lol

left lol

Radvylf Programs

02:40

Took me a couple reads to realize this wasn't referring to the federal prison in Huntsville which is like all it's known for 💀

Reddit's kinda annoying because I'm only there for one subreddit, and occasionally I'll end up on the main page or searching the whole site and take half a second to realize it

lyxal

@RadvylfPrograms that's a nice looking ad

Radvylf Programs

Advertising a place to live doesn't sound particularly effective tho lol

lyxal

Welp there's been weirder advertised on reddit

Radvylf Programs

Like I've sat through a 30s YT ad before that basically said "move to canada"

lyxal

Who tf gave it silver?

Like why would you waste your free award on an ad?

Radvylf Programs

02:52

Probably one of the 20 people that live in Huntsville

lyxal

20 days old

Radvylf Programs

lol wait that's the Huntsville in Alabama

"Hmm yeah I should move to Alabama" is definitely something I've thought mhm yeah

des54321

04:10

I feel like nothing irritates me more than the number of different volume controls you can have for a single piece of sound playing on your computer

different things that can control how loud the music im listening to with my computer is:
* my computer's actual volume control
* the volume slider on the youtube player
* the volume control of my bluetooth headphones, which i can only control with the buttons on them, and which has no actual display of its setting

Unrelated String

10:49

it's nice for when you've got multiple things going at once... except for almost everything's default volume being maximum

Nobody Needs Names

13:40

wtf is wrong?

(grammarly's fucking premium suggestions

hyper-neutrino

it should be "would" I think

because you're talking about the future tense within the context of the past tense (I forget what that's called)

caird coinheringaahing

@hyper-neutrino future perfect/imperfect

Nobody Needs Names

@hyper-neutrino thanks

but why would that be a premium suggestion?

does anyone know how to get Grammarly premium for free?

caird coinheringaahing

I'm guessing there's no legal way, otherwise they wouldn't have a premium

Nobody Needs Names

and... GOOD: We found 75 additional writing issues
in this text available only for Premium users.

thejonymyster

13:44

[links the pirate chat]

hyper-neutrino

i'm not too certain there's an illegal way either

PyGamer0

@NobodyNeedsNames yes: make your own

thejonymyster

make you a grammarly

hyper-neutrino

it's an online service so I don't think you can even pirate it can you? I guess maybe you could borrow it from a friend that has it

thejonymyster

for great grammar?

caird coinheringaahing

13:45

Honetly, grammerly isn't that great

PyGamer0

perfectly legal way :P

lyxal

12 secs ago, by caird coinheringaahing

Honetly, grammerly isn't that great

Nobody Needs Names

my way currently is to tickle the yellow bars until it goes off

caird coinheringaahing

It's good for catching blatant errors, but it doesn't handle nuanced text/expression well

Nobody Needs Names

@lyxal you might need Grammarly.

hyper-neutrino

13:45

grammarly seems alright for a computer grammar checker but those can only be so good anyway, and sometimes some technically incorrect things sound more natural than if I were to make them technically correct

lyxal

@cairdcoinheringaahing you clearly don't use it then :p

hyper-neutrino

it's good for scanning to make sure you haven't missed anything too major, like caird said, blatant stuff :P

Nobody Needs Names

Hone(s)tly, (G)ramm(a)rly isn't that great(. )

caird coinheringaahing

I've used it a bit, but it kept telling me that I should rephrase a bunch of stuff that I knew was fine as is

Nobody Needs Names

Grammarly will tell you there's 4 errors

pxeger

13:47

Poetic licence allows so many funky constructions, and English is so lexically and syntactically ambiguous, that no computer grammar checker can probably ever be 100% right

hyper-neutrino

i would expect the misspelling of "grammarly" to be one error

Nobody Needs Names

@cairdcoinheringaahing it does tell you this and that is better, but whocares...

pxeger

Jun 9 at 16:57, by pxeger

@mathcat The grammar of English is practically undecidable

10 brownie points for the first person to prove this ^

Nobody Needs Names

Seggan

@pxeger proof: I am Seggan and Seggan, I am have the same meaning

Nobody Needs Names

13:48

We've got so much left

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger The proof is trivial, and is left as an exercise to the reader ez :P

thejonymyster

@pxeger grammar is undecidable

pxeger

@cairdcoinheringaahing actually, since proofs are in general undecidable, arguably that message constitutes an example of an undecidable sentence

Nobody Needs Names

@pxeger One way is to declare everything as Grammarly correct

I once had a text that scores -8 in readability by Grammarly

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger The incompleteness theorem says nothing about whether a given statement can be proved or not

pxeger

13:52

It says that some statements cannot be proven

PyGamer0

@pxeger Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo Buffalo. Buffalo?

pxeger

@PyGamer0 It should actually be Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo

PyGamer0

buffalo?

Nobody Needs Names

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Yes, but it doesn't say anything about any given sentence, it only discusses the formal systems themselves

Nobody Needs Names

13:53

Anyone Any Idea Why?

pxeger

But if you want to know whether "The proof is trivial, and is left as an exercise to the reader" is correct or not, then, depending on what the proof is of, the sentence's correctness may be undecideable

(of course, being "factually" correct is not the same as grammatically "correct", but it was only a joke lol)

PyGamer0

Did I ever tell y'all the time I broke a computer at my school :P

pxeger

No, what happened?

Did you break a computer?

caird coinheringaahing

@pxeger Ah, but I know that the sentence's correctness is decidable, because the proof is trivial and is left as an exercise for the reader :P

pxeger

At your school?

PyGamer0

13:55

yeah

thejonymyster

@PyGamer0 no, what was the time?

PyGamer0

as the legend goes: "the computer never turned on again, unless you reinstalled windows" :P

@thejonymyster 3 years ago

thejonymyster

glances at the clock; can i get that in 12 hour time

caird coinheringaahing

2019pm

Nobody Needs Names

@PyGamer0 how why what which i've got so many questions

PyGamer0

13:57

i dont remember how i broke it but i am pretty sure i opened cmd and typed debug and did things

pxeger

News just in: AD and BC have been renamed to AM and PM for consistency with time

thejonymyster

@PyGamer0 rookie mistake... dont do that

pxeger

The prophet formerly known as Christ will now be called Meridiem

thejonymyster

the prophet formerly known as christ would be a great name for a christian prince cover band

we should have a test case challenge about checking times in timezones :P

pxeger

looks pretty similar to a crucifix actually

thejonymyster

14:00

jesus and his fucked up right arm

and toroidal head

i guess the top part didnt matter actually

caird coinheringaahing

Jesus' head is topologically equivalent to a coffee mug

PyGamer0

@thejonymyster why?

lol

pxeger

Jesus has four more holes than most humans

caird coinheringaahing

Jesus has a genus of 5 :P

thejonymyster

@PyGamer0 because then you will the time you broke a computer at your school :P

pxeger

14:03

@cairdcoinheringaahing the topology of the human is debatable though: youtube.com/watch?v=egEraZP9yXQ

Nobody Needs Names

mathcat

@cairdcoinheringaahing without the handle?

Nobody Needs Names

huh, why

thejonymyster

i dont think mythology is plural? or at least its uncountable

mathcat

Many mythologies

caird coinheringaahing

14:04

@NobodyNeedsNames "Many mythologies and fables" is correct

thejonymyster

oh right, there can be more than one mythology

i was trying to think of the unit for individual items of mythology

Nobody Needs Names

This was why it happened in the first place

caird coinheringaahing

Or even, you can remove them, phrasing it as "[...] different mythologies and fables. Many credit the [...]"

thejonymyster

oh yea agree

lyxal

just a quick question: is this conversation worth moving to off-topic once concluded?

Nobody Needs Names

14:05

thejonymyster

yea its interspersed with a different off topic convo

just dont lose my regex :P

Nobody Needs Names

@lyxal yes

PyGamer0

just remove grammarly..

caird coinheringaahing

@NobodyNeedsNames I'd word this as follows:

> The information of cultural values in the average Greek society lives on through different mythologies and fables. Many credit the same values, morals and themes such as [example 1] and [example 2]. The importance of not being [...]

Pretty sure "upon" doesn't belong in that first sentence

lyxal

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pxeger

14:09

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Radvylf Programs

21:47

TIL the third most common language in Texas is Vietnamese

That is far from what I would have guessed lol

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