Etch

Ginger Industries

13:19

room topic changed to Etch: Room for discussion of Etch (github.com/GingerIndustries/Etch), Ginger Industries' multipurpose general programming language. (no tags)

H

ello

First order of buisness: documentation

because that doesn't exist yet

ophact

"Okay dokay"?

Ginger Industries

what

PyGamer0

third

ophact

Oh yeah, second

Ginger Industries

and I am first for obvious reasons

PyGamer0

13:23

@GingerIndustries no lyxal is first always :P

lyxal

no comment

ophact

Oh no pip is taking its time... again

Ginger Industries

a n y w a y

lemme just create a wiki rq

lyxal

should just be off

not off of

ophact

Yeah, and it shouldn't be okay dokay

lyxal

13:25

be grammatically correct please.

ophact

see above

Ginger Industries

¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

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lyxal

thank you

ophact

I installed etchlang but typing etch gives nothing

Ginger Industries

@ophact did you install the repl

ophact

13:26

Yes

Ginger Industries

are you sure

ophact

Precise command typed:

py -m pip install etchlang[repl] --user

Ginger Industries

hm

try installing the repl by itself

ophact

what would that be

Ginger Industries

pip3 install etchrepl

ophact

13:27

ok

done but still not working.

Ginger Industries

I dunno man

try python3 -m etchrepl

ophact

IT WORKS

wow

Ginger Industries

ayy

I need to figure out how to write the documentation

lyxal

> No module named etch.__main__; 'etch' is a package and cannot be directly executed

Ginger Industries

uH

lyxal

13:30

oop

nvm

Ginger Industries

hm

oh

ophact

@GingerIndustries Yes please I am truly confused as to how to use this language.

Ginger Industries

hMMMmmMM

lyxal

@GingerIndustries I was using etch instead of etchrepl

ophact

How do you output?

Ginger Industries

13:30

@ophact :out

ophact

Oh okay because I was trying out "a" without any luck

Ginger Industries

Hello World: :out "Hello, World!";

ophact

> >> for a in [0, 1, 2] do :out a
sly: Syntax error at line 1, token=NEWLINE
'NoneType' object is not iterable

How do you do loops properly?

lyxal

:out ":out"

Ginger Industries

hmm

lyxal

13:32

sly: Syntax error at line 1, token=NEWLINE
'NoneType' object is not iterable

Ginger Industries

that's not a quine

lyxal

I wasn't going for quine

Ginger Industries

the repl has some... problems

lyxal

I was going for breaking the language

>> :out ":yes"
sly: Syntax error at line 1, token=NEWLINE
'NoneType' object is not iterable

Looks like you can't have : in strings

Ginger Industries

(by which I mean you can't type multi-line statements)

@lyxal you can

lyxal

13:32

not at the start

Ginger Industries

you forgot to put a semicolon at the end

ophact

@lyxal Semicolon required I think

ninja'd

lyxal

aw dang

I thought I'd broken it

Ginger Industries

nOT SO FAST

ophact

lol capslock

Can you provide an example program that demonstrates all the features of that language?

Not fizzbuzz because it's multiline

and it looks like I'm stuck with the REPL for the moment

lyxal

13:34

>> :out;:out;

'NoneType'

Ginger Industries

you can run an Etch file

lyxal

Interesting

it prints NoneType

Ginger Industries

type /run <path>

ophact

What is /run?

Ginger Industries

in the REPL

it's a command

ophact

13:35

okay...

Ginger Industries

you can also type etch <path> or in your case python3 -m etchrepl <path>

ophact

I love this language

Ginger Industries

thanks

ophact

HOW DO YOU DO LOOPS

your example from before didn't work

Ginger Industries

depends on what loop you want

ophact

13:38

never mind I figured it out

Ginger Industries

okay then

lyxal

ophact

I meant I figured forever loops

lyxal

> Requires: Python <4.0

ophact

How do you do the for... in loops

@lyxal Luckily I have python 3.8

Ginger Industries

13:40

@lyxal what

lyxal

@GingerIndustries from the pypi page

Ginger Industries

uH

that is not supposed to happen

one sec

lyxal

pypi.org/project/etchrepl

ophact

Can you please catch all errors?

It exits (by a Python error) very often

it's very annoying

Ginger Industries

I do need to fix that

one sec

ophact

13:41

Especially that NoneType thing

Ginger Industries

hold please

ophact

> /run test
<etch.utils.ParameterWrapper object at 0x0000027102DADAF0>
1

Where the content of test.etch was:

> if 1 then
:out 1;
done

lyxal

>> :out 69.420;
69 0.42

Ginger Industries

that's debugging text

ah shit

As you may have guessed, Etch has problems

thank yall for helping me fix them

lyxal

can't believe I can't have negative numbers without subtracting from 0

>> :out -4;
cannot unpack non-iterable int object

>> :out 0-4;
-4

Big sad

Ginger Industries

13:44

...

ophact

@GingerIndustries is there a range function?

Ginger Industries

you should be able to

ophact

I'm trying to do fizzbuzz

lyxal

and of course:

>> :out .1+.2;
0.30000000000000004

Ginger Industries

@ophact for that you can use do ... count

ophact

13:44

Not unique to Etch @lyxal

lyxal

I know

but it's funny

Ginger Industries

Etch uses Python, so that's a Python issue

ophact

@GingerIndustries What is ...? The statements or the identifier or what?

Ginger Industries

oops

sorry

lyxal

>> :out 1/0;
division by zero

Ginger Industries

13:45

do
[statements]
[x] times

lyxal

big sad

ophact

@GingerIndustries thanks

lyxal

I like dividing by 0

dividing by 0 is fun

>> :out "12" + 12;
can only concatenate str (not "int") to str

Can we have automatic conversion to string?

Ginger Industries

._.

lyxal

but really, can we?

Ginger Industries

13:47

I have other ~~fish to fry~~ bugs to fix, open an issue ig

ophact

@lyxal Don't make Etch into JS

Ginger Industries

repl 0.1.5 is being uploaded to PyPI as I type this message

ophact

Will it be on TIO?

Ginger Industries

done

probably not

TIO is out of date and barely maintained

PyGamer0

@GingerIndustries i mean flax also uses python but it doesnt have that issue

Ginger Industries

13:50

@PyGamer0 ¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

lyxal

@ophact concatenation isn't like JS

Ginger Industries

@ophact update published

the REPL should tell you that

PyGamer0

because flax is well designed /s

ophact

@lyxal Oh yeah my mistake

How do you update with pip

Ginger Industries

@ophact pip install --upgrade etchrepl

ophact

13:52

Thank you

Ginger Industries

np

lyxal

github.com/GingerIndustries/Etch/issues/6

github.com/GingerIndustries/Etch/issues/7

ophact

Still tells me there's an update even after update

lyxal

tag feature request pls

anyhow I'm going now

ophact

> c=1;
do
if c%15<1 then
:out "FizzBuzz";
c+=1;
100 times

gives me an error

Ginger Industries

13:53

bye

lyxal

o/

ophact

\o is bye right?

Ginger Industries

@ophact does the REPL crash

ophact

NoneType is not iterable

Ginger Industries

does it crash

ophact

13:54

See above

Ginger Industries

all I did was patch the REPL so if you run a program it catches and prints the error

the NoneType error is a bug with Etch and something I'm going to fix in the next update

ophact

Any reason why my unfinished fizzbuzz errors?

nvm figured it out

Yay I figured out how to do FizzBuzz

Now time to figure out how to make a primality tester

Ginger Industries

oh boy

ophact

Functions...

How do you do functions

Ginger Industries

define [name] [param1] [param2] [...]
[statements]
done

you can also add indentation if you want

ophact

14:00

okay

Ginger Industries

I have added that string addition feature

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries Lambda syntax?

Ginger Industries

@BgilMidol none yet

Bgil Midol

For loop syntax?

ophact

> sly: Syntax error at line 13, token=NEWLINE
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "C:\Users\jo08t\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38\lib\runpy.py", line 193, in _run_module_as_main
return _run_code(code, main_globals, None,
File "C:\Users\jo08t\AppData\Local\Programs\Python\Python38\lib\runpy.py", line 86, in _run_code
exec(code, run_globals)
File "C:\Users\jo08t\AppData\Roaming\Python\Python38\site-packages\etchrepl.py", line 96, in <module>
main()
File "C:\Users\jo08t\AppData\Roaming\Python\Python38\site-packages\etchrepl.py", line 81, in main

Ginger Industries

14:04

yeaaaaaa

ophact

Is it not allowed to put two newlines in a row?

Ginger Industries

I'm also fixing that

@ophact nope

I should fix that

for [var] in [expr] do
[statements]
done

@BgilMidol ^

Bgil Midol

ok how do i make variables

Ginger Industries

@BgilMidol [name] = [value], just like Python

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries Is there a online interpreter?

Ginger Industries

14:08

uh

not yet

you can't use the replit because I'm working on that

hm

@ophact fixed

as well as the NoneType error

anything else?

Bgil Midol

Also how do I download etch (with pip)

Ginger Industries

@BgilMidol pip3 install etchlang[repl]

If anybody has suggestions or bugs, please put them here.

4

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries And how do I run it?

SegFaultPlus4

can you define function

s

Bgil Midol

yes

Ginger Industries

14:17

@BgilMidol etch

I am working on the docs

Bgil Midol

How do I print stuff

SegFaultPlus4

can functions call each other/themselves

Bgil Midol

idk

SegFaultPlus4

i meant to @GingerIndustries

Ginger Industries

15:10

New version released!

mathcat

15:21

is there a docs already?

Ginger Industries

not really

Help with docs would be greatly appreciated!

2

Bgil Midol

For loop:

Feeds

Ginger Industries has made a change to the feeds posted into this room

Bgil Midol

Syntax:

    [for loop syntax]

Variations:

Ginger Industries

wat

Bgil Midol

15:32

[for, while, forever for loop]

@GingerIndustries suggestions for for loop docs

Ginger Industries

how about you add that stuff to the wiki

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries how do i add it

Ginger Industries

trying to figure that out

mathcat

PR?

fork

Bgil Midol

@mathcat how do i fork and pr

mathcat

15:36

there's a fork button

next to star

and watch

Bgil Midol

forked

Ginger Industries

fork, edit, and make a pull request

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries Any way to take input?

Ginger Industries

:get

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries any way to get a prompt?

Like Enter a number:

Ginger Industries

15:43

that's a param for :get

I think I should use ReadTheDocs for documentation

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries sounds good

@GingerIndustries i need the full syntax for :get

Ginger Industries

:get; or :get "prompt";

Bgil Midol

@GingerIndustries i cant pr

Ginger Industries

I'm moving the docs, one sec

mathcat

wth

you're more speed than lyxal

Ginger Industries

16:13

ignore that

those are old

Fmbalbuena

Hello

bye

Ginger Industries

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Fmbalbuena

Wait, What is that room?

mathcat

etch

this is etch

Ginger Industries

@mathcat correct

Fmbalbuena

19:45

@GingerIndustries then what is etch?

mathcat

etch is life

etch is stronger than ms. pat

Bgil Midol

@Fmbalbuena a general purpose programming language

mathcat

etch is the creator of the universe

etch was there before joe mama

Ginger Industries

correct

Fmbalbuena

@GingerIndustries What is correct?

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