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David Wallace

00:00

I could also ask my wife when she returns from doing the shopping.

Tames

@DavidWallace where is she from?

David Wallace

Bosnia.

Tames

@DavidWallace so.. if you get some answer on this, would you please let me know? I must got now, get back to my studies

David Wallace

Hahaha! I'm watching a replay of a rugby game on TV. The commentator just said that he overheard the referee saying that he left his yellow and red cards in the changing room at half time. I guess the players can do what they like until someone brings them to him!

Tames

@DavidWallace lol

David Wallace

00:03

@Tames Umm, yeah, OK sure. Good luck with the studies.

Bye.

Tames

@DavidWallace thanks! bye :)

David Wallace

01:01

@Tames - Vitaly has confirmed that you would need a different verb for soldiers dying every day. If you want more detail, grab a transcript of the ELU room. It's really interesting, actually.

Stack Exchange

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Q: Is there any method of assigning a numeral score to the extent to which a given alphabet is phonemic?

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06:56

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Q: Looking for resources/papers listing language-specific phonotactic constraints

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Q: Reciprocal vs Reflexive

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Q: Can children learn up to 4 different languages?

A example is parents with different mother tongues living in a foreign country. Teaching those three languages and also English. How and when should this languages be taught? Can all be taught in early age or only when the other are firmly embedded.

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Nikhil Bellarykar

14:38

@OtavioMacedo thanks!

Tames

21:27

hi

Tames

21:41

hey @Cerberus, check this out

Famine food

A famine food or poverty food is any inexpensive or readily-available foodstuff used to nourish people in times of extreme poverty or starvation, as during a war or famine. Quite often, the food is thereafter strongly associated with the hardship under which it was eaten, and is therefore socially downplayed or rejected as a food source in times of relative plenty. The characterization of a foodstuff as "famine" or "poverty" food is social, and some foods, such as lobster and other crustacea, are considered poverty food in some societies and luxury food in others. Foods associated with ...

I guess this is why avocado is not a very popular food here, probably it is considered a "poverty food"

@DavidWallace thanks!

Cerberus

Oh, that's funny.

But I didn't see avocado in the list?

Was it eaten a lot in time of famine?

> In Maine and on the Atlantic coast of Canada, fish and shellfish were once considered poverty food, and people would bury lobster shells in their yards rather than disposing of them in their rubbish so that neighbors would not learn that they were reduced to eating lobster.

This is funny.

I knew that all kinds of marine animals shifted a lot in status.

But burying lobster shells?

Tames

yes.. avocado is not listed there, but given that it is very nutritious and poor people could grab a lot of them for free in avocado trees, it is probably considered a "poverty food". When my father was a kid, his family was very poor and he used to eat a lot of avocado. Poor people would usually have some tree fruits on the house, or they knew someone who had an orchard and would ask them for fruits

Cerberus

21:56

All right, so poverty food rather than famine food.

Salmon was only eaten by the poor here in the 17th century.

It was probably also plentiful.

Now it is a somewhat expensive food.

Tames

oh.. salmon :-d

Cerberus

Is that good or bad?

Tames

delicious

this is someone licking lips-> :-d

Cerberus

Ah I see.

Smileys are outside my expertise, hehe.

I like smoked salmon a lot.

Tames

did you mention once that you eat salmon with avocado, or am I mistaken?

Cerberus

22:01

I like to combine the two, yes.

Tames

how is that?

Cerberus

Especially on pancakes, it is delicious.

You want a (simple) recipe?

Tames

yes!

Cerberus

Cut smoked salmon in small pieces, put them in a bowl.

Add lemon zest,

very finely cut spring onions,

a bit of crème fraîche or mayonnaise,

lemon juice,

black pepper,

finely cut capers,

and mix.

Then make a pancake, put some slices of avocado on it with some of your salmon mixture, roll it up, and eat it.

I like to cut the salmon very finely if it is low-quality smoked salmon.

Tames

such an interesting combination! I may try it sometime

Cerberus

22:07

Another recipe:

Put some cut iceberg lettuce in a bowl.

Make something like the salmon mixture above. As long as it contains some crème fraîche/mayonnaise and pepper. Add whatever you want.

Make a simple vinaigrette, like oil + mustard.

Make mashed potatoes.

Now put some vinaigrette on the iceberg and mix.

Then spread a layer (can be thin) of mashed potatoes on top of the iceberg lettuce.

Then a layer of your salmon mixture.

Oh! And add either crushed walnuts or fried pine nuts.

You can also add avocado.

But the nuts are a must.

Tames

wow...

licking lips and dribbling a little -> :-d~

Cerberus

Hehe.

I have never heard of anything like my lettuce + mashed potatoes.

I just came up with it one day, when I wanted to make a potato salad with similar ingredients, but mashed potatoes seemed quicker.

Tames

neither have I! although I've seen some salads with potato cubes

Cerberus

Yes.

Those are great too.

Lettuce with potatoes is a great combination, somehow.

It doesn't sound very interesting if you don't know it.

You know what's also good? A potato salad with avocado.

Very simple, but it is a great combination.

Tames

I like iceberg lettuce a lot, but my favorite green is arugula

oh.. potato with avocado, I can't even imagine what that tastes like!

Cerberus

22:16

It's great.

@Tames Rucola is nice too. But it is a bit too bitter to eat just that, isn't it?

I like adding some rucola to stuff.

But a bowl of rucola?

Tames

it is not bitter.. it is... pungent?

I love it... specially with dried tomatos and maybe some cheese

Cerberus

It is bitterly pungent to me.

Yes, good combo.

Another recipe with our familiar ingredients:

Put the following in a bowl:

Tames

for me chicory is bitter, but not arugula

Cerberus

iceberg lettuce

high-quality (= sweet) tomatoes, cut

smoked salmon, cut

boiled potatoes, cut

rucola, cut

eggs, boiled, cut

Make a simple vinaigrette and sprinkle it on the bowl.

That's it.

Tames

hi @OtavioMacedo! welcome to our foodie-talk

Cerberus

22:20

Oh, pine nuts might be a nice addition.

Or crushed walnuts.

Tames

hmmm I've just remembered something delicious

Tomatoes stuffed with ricotta and walnuts, covered with grated parmesan cheese and baked

Otavio Macedo

feeling hungry, already

Cerberus

Oh!

I like it.

Hello.

I made hamburgers.

Otavio Macedo

@Cerberus What do you cook best?

Tames

and I ate some tortillas with grated meat and tomato sauce

Cerberus

22:25

@OtavioMacedo Ehh I don't know? I have no specialty that I am known for...have you?

@Tames Also nice.

Tames

@OtavioMacedo he has some special recipes with smoked salmon, it seems

Otavio Macedo

@Cerberus No, I don't. I usually cook the easiest things.

Like pasta hehe

Tames

oh... I had never noticed this... probably it is where that brand name comes from (Ades)

Ade (drink suffix)

Ade is a suffix used to denote a beverage made from water (sometimes carbonated water), fruit juice, and sweetener. Examples of its usage are: lemonade, limeade, cherryade, and orangeade. Similar beverages that do not contain fruit juice may use the suffix “aid” in their brand name, e.g., Kool-Aid and Flavor Aid. Ade is also used as a suffix in several brand names, including Lucozade, Powerade, Accelerade, Staminade, Sporade, and Gatorade, all of which are marketed as sports drinks. Lucozade was the first of these brands; it was first manufactured in 1927 under the name Glucozade. Car...

@OtavioMacedo pasta you mean.. miojo? haha

or real pasta

kkk

Otavio Macedo

@Tames Both :D

Cerberus

@OtavioMacedo I like easy!

Otavio Macedo

22:29

But I'm not sure miojo counts as real food.

@Cerberus Are you fond of Thai food?

Cerberus

Yes, I like it.

The only cuisine I know that I dislike is Chinese.

Tames

@OtavioMacedo which edition of GEB have you got there?

@OtavioMacedo does it have an impossible triangle on the cover?

Otavio Macedo

The 20th anniversary edition

With G E B shadows projected on the walls and floor

Tames

this is really disturbing me

hahah

do you see why

Cerberus

No?

It looks like a perfectly normal triangle.

Except perhaps that Bach should be on the bottom dark side surface.

Otavio Macedo

22:44

Why?

Tames

yes x_x

three sides... two names on one side and one empty side

how could they do this

lol

Cerberus

Bach and Gödel are on the same surface, Escher is not.

Tames

possibly they didn't want Bach to be in the shade... but even so, it ruined the simmetry!

@OtavioMacedo (mine is an old edition.. 1983)

I must leave now.. bye guys

Cerberus

Bye.

Otavio Macedo

23:03

Corinthians is playing tonight, for the finals of "Libertadores da América"

I can hear the fireworks from the stadium

The city is going crazy tonight.

Not that I care much.

Cerberus

23:16

Who are these Corinthians?

Otavio Macedo

23:53

A football team.

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