lɪŋˈgwɪstɪks

Tames

00:00

what noise? both of them have a problem, they seem to have been taken from behind a glass

is it so?

Cerberus

Hmm you mean the glare in the centre-right? Yes, I hadn't noticed, I guess you're right.

By noise I mean the grainy texture in dark areas.

The opposite of smooth.

Tames

the angles of the one on the left look better as well, as the lines are closer to being paralel to the sides of the picture

noises.. hmm

Cerberus

It is called noise.

You know what you see when you're looking at an old television that is tuned to nothing?

Tames

i think the texture comes from the material, not from the picture

Cerberus

Black and white dots moving rapidly in chaos?

Tames

00:03

the ground seems textured, like grains.. small rocks or something

Cerberus

Don't you feel one has more noise than the other?

David Wallace

Wow, I feel like I'm interrupting something seriously intellectual here!

And off topic.

Tames

you think the left one is more noisy?

Cerberus

I actually think the left one (top) has had some software processing done to reduce noise.

Tames

Hi David

Cerberus

00:05

@DavidWallace Oops! You've caught us.

Which picture do you consider better @David?

David Wallace

I'm looking at it on a tiny little laptop with quite poor resolution.

Tames

if you think the left one looks better, you'd only have to do some color balancing (increase red) and rotate it a little and crop, to get paralel lines

but i don't see a significant difference in noise

Cerberus

Three things strike me: 1.) colours; 2.) noise in dark areas; 3.) sharpness of details, like the metal things contrasting against the sky.

David Wallace

I can't comment on whether either of them has been airbrushed or gone through noise reduction software.

Cerberus

@DavidWallace Oh, you poor thing.

David Wallace

00:07

And the odd bit of dust on my screen doesn't help.

BRB.

Tames

what bothers me more than noise is that reflex

Cerberus

@DavidWallace They both come from phones. So if anything has been done, it must have been done automatically by the phone's camera program.

Do you feel that one is sharper than the other?

Tames

I'd say left, but it may be influenced by color. let me do some testing on photoshop

Cerberus

I agree, left looks sharper.

Tames

are you trying to find out if a camera is better than the other? or were they both taken with the same camera?

Cerberus

00:10

So on the whole I feel that the photo on the left is definitely better, though the difference is not that great.

However, the review considers the left photo (Galaxy SIII) worse than the right photo (Iphone 4S).

Tames

why?

Cerberus

No idea.

He doesn't explain why.

Tames

strange

I'd definitely chose the left one, but...

one must consider, the pictures were not taken from the exact same point of view,

this small changes in angle and distance may impact how the camera captures the light

it should have been precisely the same position

in the one on the right, with less color balance, the glass reflex is less perceptible

Cerberus

> All in all the GSIII camera has quite a few tricks up its sleeve, but if it’s simply a beautiful image you’re looking for, you may need to keep looking. Comparison shot between the Samsung Galaxy S III (left) and the iPhone 4S (right):

techcrunch.com/2012/06/19/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-review

Perhaps they erroneously swapped left and right?

Tames

i'm not sure... this would be a terrible mistake

Cerberus

00:18

Yeah.

Tames

IP4s - camera 8MP, VGA front camera

GSIII - camera 8MP, 1.9 MP front camera

what does front camera mean? i don't understand this

is it 8 or 1,9 MP

Cerberus

The phone has two cameras.

One at the back, one at the front.

The one at the back is for taking good picture and videos.

The one at the front is to make video calls.

VGA is a resolution that can also be expressed in MP.

I don't know how much it is exactly, but very little.

VGA is 0,3 MP.

What kind of phone do you have? A dumbphone?

Tames

this provides some extra info on the cameras

yes, the simplest phone possible

Cerberus

That is the SII, but thanks.

Hehe.

I'm not buying any of those phones anyway.

I was just interested.

@Tames Why no smartphone?

Tames

someone commented in that site that GS's camera is way better than IP

waaaaay better, so he said

Cerberus

00:26

Haha.

It is a little bit subjective.

Tames

hhah

Cerberus

But I interpret that as that there isn't much difference between the two cameras.

They're both fine.

Tames

reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57454915-251/…

this is more professional

it is the exact same picture

at least so it seems

it seems that GS has better color, and this helps with sharpness as well

but this is not noticeable in all pictures

Cerberus

Hmm.

Tames

@Cerberus I don't know why not... I never liked phones.. i bought one some years ago and never changed it

Cerberus

00:32

Nice comparison pictures, but she has resized them!

Now we can't see details.

@Tames The idea is that you have access to internet and navigation and other things wherever you go.

My phone is from 2007, but it can do all that, although with effort.

Gigi and I want the Galaxy Nexus.

Tames

@Cerberus what should I need that for?

Cerberus

Well, suppose you are in the train and you want to check at what time your tram departs.

Or you want to send someone an email when you are somewhere else.

Or you are bored in the train and you want to listen to music or read the news.

Tames

I can't imagine an e-mail that is so urgent that I can't way to come back home to send it

Cerberus

It usually isn't, but it may happen once in a while.

Tames

when travelling, i always take books with me

Cerberus

00:35

But do you always, always take books with you when you're going to visit a friend who lives a 30-minute metro ride away?

The idea is that you never need to think about bringing anything: you always have your phone with you.

Tames

I understand.. when you have such a thing, you find uses to it, but it is not that you really need it... not that everything in life is necessity

Cerberus

Of course you don't need it like oxygen.

Just as you don't need a shower or a bed.

Tames

like, i don't need to get my nails painted, but I do it anyway

Cerberus

The question is: how much fun or comfort can they provide, and at what price?

Tames

at what price?

Cerberus

00:37

Well, a bed costs money to buy, and it takes up space.

Etc.

Tames

I'm asking how much such a thing costs, really

a GSiii

Cerberus

Oh haha.

Tames

hahah

Cerberus

A SGIII is around € 600 now, because it has just been released this month.

The Galaxy Nexus is from 2011 and it costs about € 350.

A low-end smartphone that you can still do all the things on that I mentioned would probably cost € 100.

But the screen will be small.

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Tames

00:39

hmm

I don't see myself buying one of those, but I guess they can be fun

Cerberus

Also very useful.

Navigation is very important to me.

Tames

i think i'd rather buy something to play games

Cerberus

You can play all games on those phones.

At least the newer ones are able to play tons of games.

There are emulators that will allow you to play lots of Playstation and Nintendo games on your phone.

Tames

i find them more appealing now!

Cerberus

Haha.

You're easy.

Tames

00:44

what do you mean with 'easy'?

Cerberus

You are easy to win over from your previous position, hehe.

Tames

it is that you are very convincing, mr.

Cerberus

Good, good.

Tames

are you selling those? lol

David Wallace

Haha, Cerberus often masquerades as a salesperson of digital devices.

Cerberus

00:47

So what do you do when you are visiting a friend, or going to some shop, and you're not exactly sure where it is? You could simply type the address into your phone, and it would show you a map and guide you there.

Tames

wow, magic!

Cerberus

@DavidWallace So the salesdog is my mask, and the real Cerberus is...?

David Wallace

You make sure that before you leave your home, you know where your friend's house is.

Cerberus

Or is it the other way around?

David Wallace

Or you go into a shop and ask for directions.

Cerberus

00:47

@DavidWallace Such a bother.

And what if you forgot because you were in a hurry?

David Wallace

Not as much of a bother as the cost of paying for a device that you don't need.

Cerberus

Or you didn't write the walking route down correctly?

David Wallace

Forgot to go to a shop and ask for directions?

Cerberus

There may not be a shop, or shops might be closed.

@DavidWallace Forgot to print a map.

Or whatever you do.

David Wallace

I was about to say that I have lived half my life without email access, then I realised that that wouldn't actually be true.

Cerberus

00:49

Heh.

David Wallace

@Cerberus Actually, one time I was due to visit a small town, and didn't trust myself to remember to check the address, I memorised the entire streetmap of the entire town.

So that when I found out the address, I would know exactly where it was.

Cerberus

13 mins ago, by Cerberus

Just as you don't need a shower or a bed.

13 mins ago, by Cerberus

The question is: how much fun or comfort can they provide, and at what price?

@DavidWallace Wow.

That must have taken some time.

David Wallace

It wasn't a large town. Maybe 15 streets altogether.

Cerberus

I would worry that I would not remember correctly.

What kind of phone do you have?

David Wallace

However, the person that I was going there with forgot the name of the street. We played an interesting guessing game to work it out, but eventually we found it.

Cerberus

00:52

That can be fun.

David Wallace

I have a very sophisticated Nokia 1100 (I think that's what it is). It's absolutely top of the line. Does everything.

Cerberus

It can also be a nightmare.

@DavidWallace Ah, I see.

So what is your take on smartphones?

David Wallace

My take is, why do I want one?

Cerberus

Is that all?

David Wallace

That's all.

Cerberus

00:53

Surely you have some pros and contras?

David Wallace

Hey, I have to go back to work now. We can discuss the wonders of unnecessary technology at some other time.

Bye.

Cerberus

Hehe OK.

Bye!

Tames

do you understand this, Cerb?

Cerberus

Haha, the Orkutless guy cannot be depicted, because...everyone has Orkut?

Which is ironic, because nobody has it?

I guessed that all the adjectives meant something like "bizarre, incredible".

Tames

hahah

Cerberus

01:04

I think the language is not the problem here if I don't understand the joke.

Because the meaning of the Portuguese seems clear enough.

Tames

the incredible man who doesn't have a bank account,

Cerberus

Yeah.

I got that.

Tames

the fantastic woman who doesn't have a cell phone,

the bizarre girl who hasn't got an e-mail,

Cerberus

And incredible means "one would not expect such a man to exist".

@Tames E-mail, not an e-mail.

Tames

the unbelievable man who is not on orkut

Cerberus

01:06

Yeah I understood all that.

Tames

what didn't you understand?

Cerberus

I wasn't sure whether I understood the joke.

3 mins ago, by Cerberus

Haha, the Orkutless guy cannot be depicted, because...everyone has Orkut?

3 mins ago, by Cerberus

Which is ironic, because nobody has it?

I am not familiar with what Orkut is exactly.

Some kind of website.

Tames

it is like facebook

Cerberus

And nobody uses it?

Tames

something like.. when you google for someone, there's a facebook page saying "this person is not on facebook, invite him/her..."

everybody uses it!

it was much more popular than FB in Brazil, some time ago

it is like.. this guy does not exist, because he is not on FB (orkut)

Cerberus

01:10

Ah OK, so it is not ironic.

So my first interpretation was the right one.

Tames

i guess he is kind of ironic, but all over. not only in that case

because this persons are considered freaks

the modern freaks (or post-modern..)

Cerberus

I know all that.

I just didn't know how popular or unpopular Orkut was.

Tames

do you enjoy taking pictures?

Cerberus

Eh I seldom take any. You?

Tames

I used to take a lot of pictures.. I had tons of them, but one day I put them all on a pendrive, because I was cleaning my pc, and my pendrive burned.. i lost archives of many years of photographs.... I guess my enthusiasm for pictures has diminished ever since. but i do some once in a while. i'm trying to find some to show you

Cerberus

01:19

Oh no!

That is terrible.

How did you burn it?

Tames

pfff

Cerberus

You know, if you save your pictures in a Dropbox folder, they will always be automatically backed up to the internet.

@Tames Oh, very artistic/

Tames

I guess what happened was... I had this pendrive on my backpack, I had gone to the gym and I had some humid clothes on the backpack.. I was walking around under the sun, and I guess some water evaporated and reached inside the pendrive, when i plugged it, it burned

I love it how the wood is so highly defined and everything else is blurred

Cerberus

Oh, that's horrible.

Do you back up your important files now? How?

Tames

I should

I should buy an external hd probably

Cerberus

01:24

@Tames How many GB of important files do you have?

Roughly.

Tames

probably not more than 2GB

Cerberus

OK, then make a Dropbox account. Wait one sec.

@Tames Wow, very nice flare effect.

You're quite a pro!

@Tames Do you have a Gmail account?

Tames

I'm much more experimental than pro

Cerberus

Nice.

drive.google.com/start#home

Tames

that effect came from small drops of water in the glass

Cerberus

01:28

Go here.

Tames

yes, I have a g-mail

Cerberus

Download the Google Drive application.

It will take two minutes to install, and then all your important files will be backed up automatically and safely.

Tames

nice

Cerberus

If some files are very private (you don't want Google to have them), encrypt them first.

Tames

what kind of pictures do you like?

Cerberus

01:34

I don't know. Architecture and landscapes, I think, and people/things I know, of course.

I'm a simple guy.

*dog

@Tames Have you installed Drive yet? stern schoolmaster look

Tames

you are not simple, you are triple!

Cerberus

Wow.

Tames

this is Florianópolis, a famous city here

Cerberus

I didn't know the sea could be so blue!

Tames

@Cerberus no ó_ò I'll do it right now

Cerberus

01:37

@Tames Yes!

A typical Dutch beach.

Except that the sky should be grey.

Tames

Cerberus

Great.

Looks very tropical.

And you do have a lot of rain!

Over 50 % more than here!

And 120 % more than London!

Why are the English always complaining about the weather, while there is much better than mine, let alone yours?

Tames

you mean.. in Curitiba?

120% more than London?

Cerberus

Yes.

You have 1400 mm/year.

We have 900.

Tames

o_o

Cerberus

01:43

London has 600.

It's all on Wikipedia.

Tames

I told you this was a a very humid city,

Cerberus

So how is your installation progressing? Almost finished?

very stern look

Tames

and you said "we complain about the weather all the time too"

hahaha

installing!

Cerberus

We do! But the English as our masters.

@Tames Good!

Tames

Cerberus

01:47

Wow, good camera.

Is the installation complete?

Have you pointed it to the right folder to back up?

Tames

yes, I'm logging in

not a great camera, but it works well

it is only 5MP

Panasonic LUMIX

i think something is wrong

i click on "start synchronazing" but i didn't chose the folder..

or do i choose it now

oh

Cerberus

Does it work?

Tames

I'm trying to figure out how

do I have to copy my folder to the google folder?

Cerberus

There are three options: 1.) you pick your own folder as the Google folder: I think that is possible in settings.

2.) You copy your folder.

3.) You make a hard link, so that your folder will be in two places at once.

Tames

hm

there's a small icon in the bottom of the screen, and it says "not connected"

how can I connect it, I click on it and nothing happens

Cerberus

01:54

Hmm have you filled in your Gmail address and password somewhere?

I must admit I don't use Drive myself.

►

Tames

hm

Cerberus

Perhaps you need to configure your Firewall?

I have no idea what your computer looks like and what's on it.

Tames

how do you store your precious files?

Cerberus

I have Dropbox and an external drive.

Is it working yet?

Tames

I dragged and dropped, it seems to be uploading

Cerberus

02:02

Ah!

Tames

no more stern glazes, please!

Cerberus

So is the "not connected" icon still there?

Tames

lol

yes, it says not connected..

Cerberus

@Tames Don't worry, you're a good girl now.

@Tames And yet it is uploading?

Strange...

Tames

o.o

Cerberus

02:03

Can you go to your Google Drive online?

See whether any files have been uploaded yet?

Tames

it seems to be working, yes, it shows some stuff online

Cerberus

Yay!

Tames

thank you

Cerberus

Thank Google.

Now several data centres would have to burn down at the same time as your hard drive for your files to be lost.

Tames

this is me 20 years ago

yes, i guess the files are safe now

Cerberus

02:11

Aww sweet!

Tames

this is some fractal old dried pea soup in a plate. doesn't it look just like a mandelbrot set?

it is a pity that it lacks resolution

I guess I should be going, gotta get up early tomorrow to go to the gym

Cerberus

@Tames Oh haha, that's funny.

@Tames OK, good luck getting up, and good luck going to the gym!

Tames

thank you

good night

c ya

Cerberus

Eh thanks, you too!

Bye!

Tames

:)

Cerberus

02:22

Haha.

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