lɪŋˈgwɪstɪks

Gigili

06:30

Heigh-ho.

Heigh-ho, Heigh-ho, Heigh-ho.

David Wallace

06:40

Bored huh?

Gigili

To death.

David Wallace

Oh, that's no good. Don't you have anything exciting to do today?

Gigili

I should wait for my friend to wake up then we want to talk about something.

David Wallace

I'm your friend and I'm awake!

Anything particular you want to talk about, or shall I just ramble?

Gigili

Oh great, but do we have any common subjects to talk about?

David Wallace

06:48

It seems likely. You're a computer science graduate; I'm a professional software developer. We're both interested in linguistics and mathematics. There must be something in there. Anyway, how was your weekend?

Gigili

Not bad, not good. It was good till yesterday night but then it was awful.

How was yours?

David Wallace

Oh, sorry to hear that. What made it awful? Mine was mostly good. Went to my niece's birthday party yesterday, which was fun.

Gigili

Glad to hear that.

David Wallace

Do you want to talk about why yours was bad?

Gigili

Nothing important, I've noticed I do something characteristically in some special situations which is not very nice.

David Wallace

06:55

Oh? I find that a bit hard to believe. But it's good that you've discovered this.

Gigili

Actually, it doesn't make a difference since I'm not encouraged enough to change it or something.

I continue my efforts to be a better person anyway.

David Wallace

well, good. Life is one long learning experience. I think it's supposed to be that way.

Gigili

It is like this: lernen, lernten, gelernt ...

reservieren, reservierten, reserviert.

blahblah, blahblahet, blahblahiren

David Wallace

Your German is clearly better than mine! :-)

or at least more interesting.

Gigili

he said humbly

I found it impossible to find out which case it is, asking wen oder was, wer oder was, wem oder was and wessen.

David Wallace

07:03

So what do you do most Mondays?

@Gigili So you're saying you find the cases hard?

I find the endings hard in German, even after I know which case I want.

Gigili

Yes, they are difficult to learn.

Exactly, cases and then endings.

@DavidWallace I don't have a special plan for Mondays.

David Wallace

I think learning to speak and understand is probably more important than learning the detailed grammatical rules, at least for the first few years.

If you listen and hear what people say, the different endings come naturally after a while. German children don't need to learn all the rules, before they get them correct. Most of the time anyway.

Gigili

I don't think so.

David Wallace

Wie, bitte?

Gigili

Now matter how long you listen and hear what people say, you still wonder each time why they say einen schönen Frühlig, and not einer, or eine.

David Wallace

07:10

Yes, but as soon as you start saying einen schonen Fruhlig yourself, your assimilation is complete (sorry, I can't be bothered messing round with umlauts).

Sooner or later, the accusative endings will just sound "right" in certain contexts, and wrong in others.

Do you mind if I disappear for an hour or so? We can talk later if you still want to. Right now, Emerik wants to play Play Station Soccer with me.

Gigili

It sticks in your mind only when you find out why it is so and then you keep saying it right and understanding why it is so.

Like that einen schönen Frühlig, I'll never use the wrong case again (hopefully).

@DavidWallace No problem, have fun.

David Wallace

08:32

@Gigili Yeah, I'm not sure whether I agree. But it definitely helps to know that there are different cases, and that which case it is affects the endings.

You need to strike the right balance between theoretical understanding, and just listening. My experience is that listening and trying to speak is a more efficient way to use time than sitting down with the grammar textbooks.

I have, at different times, tried to learn 6 different foreign languages, using various techniques. So this is the voice of experience.

Gigili

08:53

Right.

David Wallace

But most likely, you and I have different learning styles. Whatever works, huh.

Alenanno

09:41

> blahblah, blahblahet, blahblahiren

lol :D

Gigili

Hey Ale, when will you have time today?

Alenanno

Sorry wasn't here...

Uhm

This afternoon, I think... :)

Gigili

Great, send me an email please.

Alenanno

Now or when I'm free?

Gigili

When you're free.

Alenanno

09:54

Ok! :)

Gigili

Thank you.

Alenanno

No problem! :) The other day I was trying different methods to make a Spiral staircase

Gigili

You just make them or you need them for an animation or a game or something?

Must be hard.

Alenanno

Just make them

I wanted to try and create a small scene

like a bar

Gigili

I wanted to make a short animated movie one day.

Alenanno

09:57

Oh, me too! :D

But I'm afraid it's going to take a long time :(

There are so many things

that I need to learn first

When I watch a tutorial I think "wow, I'm really a noob". :D

Gigili

No matter how long it will take, it will be extremely enjoyable to see the result at the end.

Alenanno

That's certain!!! :D

Gigili

You can learn while doing it, then you learn what you need.

Alenanno

In the email, I'll give you one or two sites with interesting tutorials. :)

Gigili

I once started to learn M-Flash then I gave up as there were many things to learn and I didn't need to learn them all.

Alenanno

09:59

What is it?

Gigili

@Alenanno Thank you so much, I really want to learn it this time.

Macromedia Flash

Alenanno

I thought so... Was it easy?

Gigili

Not so difficult, not easy.

Alenanno

Rewarding?

Gigili

Something like that.

Alenanno

10:02

:P

Gigili

I have to go now, I'll wait for your email in the afternoon.

cya

Good night David.

Alenanno

@Gigili Sure! :) See you later.

Hej @ThinkDifferent, välkommen! :)

ThinkDifferent

I don't know which language are you using, even Google translator don't know :)

Alenanno

It's supposed to be Swedish. :P

ThinkDifferent

Tack.

If you don't mind, may I ask what is this room for?

Alenanno

10:08

General discussions about Linguistics or whatever topic you want to discuss. :)

ThinkDifferent

Cool, Neuro Linguistic programming language(NLP) is concerned also?

Alenanno

Whoa! I doubt you'll find experts though... :D At least at the moment.

You use it?

ThinkDifferent

Sometimes while taking interview, talking, gossiping, chatting etc :)

Are you Linguistic expert too?

Alenanno

Me? If by expert you mean "have a PhD" then no. I studied it in university.

:)

I'm actually more into the "speak languages" thing rather than research stuff.

ThinkDifferent

I never studied, I learned it from my Boss.

Alenanno

10:13

Boss?

ThinkDifferent

So, What do you do?

Alenanno

Ahah never heard that before. :P

ThinkDifferent

Thank you.

Alenanno

I ban users, destroy accounts... The usual. :P No, I'm joking.

ThinkDifferent

That is what you do on Linguistics I am talking about in real life.

Alenanno

10:15

I'm a languages student.

I study many languages and try to learn them all.

ThinkDifferent

Languages?

Alenanno

Yep.

ThinkDifferent

Can you give me a count of them.

Mother Tongue: Italian, Sardinian;
Fluent: English, Spanish;
Less Fluent: French, German, Russian;
Learning: Japanese*, Chinese*, Swedish*, Greek*, Finnish*;
Willing to learn: Korean, Arabic, Hebrew, Hindi [to be continued]

Alenanno

Yep.

:D

ThinkDifferent

Cool.

Alenanno

10:16

Now that you remind me, I have to add another one.

ThinkDifferent

:)

So, you are teacher :P

I hate teachers.

Alenanno

Ahah nope, I'm just a student.

:P

It depends on the teacher!

:D

ThinkDifferent

May be.

I will be good teacher one day (dunno when will that day come ;))

Alenanno

Oh, good luck!

What subject?

ThinkDifferent

Not yet decided.

Alenanno

10:18

I see...

ThinkDifferent

I am a Software Developer and running a company along with Job.

Alenanno

You want to change profession then?

ThinkDifferent

No, this profession is not by choice. To earn money I adopted it.

Alenanno

Ah yes, I understand.

ThinkDifferent

Want to become a Doctor in childhood, didn't get admission so choose Electronics and Communication Engineering.

Didn't get job in Electronics and Communication, so adopted Software Development (in which I don't have interest.).

Alenanno

10:21

:D

Good luck for next time then!

ThinkDifferent

Now, I'd proved that I can do any work. So, I will work for my sake now.

Alenanno

Wise decision. :)

ThinkDifferent

gotta a go, Catch you later. Bye Take Care.

Alenanno

@ThinkDifferent See you soon!

I'll go too.

Take care as well.

Stack Exchange

12:14

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Q: What are the fundamental differences between Natural Language Processing and Computational Linguistics?

I have a vague knowledge regarding those two fields, but I admit there are some fundamental concepts that I lack. So, if we had to write down the actual differences between these two fields, what would they be? I'll suggest some points that I think the answers should cover for successfully desc...

Gigili

18:16

I can't even start doing what he's saying in the tutorial ..

When I open a new window, it has a cube along with some arrows

Right click doesn't work and I can't find out how to insert a circle to continue with

If you're there @Ale

Alenanno

I'm here!

Which tutorial?

Gigili

The guru one

Alenanno

Yes, but... which one of them? Can you give me the link to the video?

Gigili

The tutorial doesn't matter, I think something is wrong with the version I installed

Alenanno

Which one did you install?

I doubt there is

Maybe you don't know how to do what he's doing. But if you tell me the tutorial and the time where you're stuck, I'll tell you. :)

Gigili

18:24

It's "the realistic water simulation" one ..

Alenanno

What minute is where you're stuck?

Gigili

From the beginning, I can't start where he says to make a circle.

I'm saying right-click doesn't work and I see a cube and I don't know what to do about it

Alenanno

Ok. If you right-click on the cube, does it get an orange outline?

Gigili

I right-click on the cube and get nothing, it works just like I clicked on it normally. I guess it's disabled or something.

Alenanno

If you click on it, it should become "orange". Like this:

Do you see that orange outline?

Gigili

18:39

Yes

Alenanno

Ok, now click "x" on your keyboard and press on the pop-up that appears.

Et voilà! :P

Gigili

I deleted it, so?

Alenanno

Well, follow the tutorial. :P

Gigili

How to insert a circle?

Alenanno

There are two ways.

1- Go up and click on the Menu "add" then choose "mesh" > "circle"

2- Press space on your keyboard and type "circle", then click on "add circle"

Gigili

18:42

Hihi, great.

It's working, juhuu.

Alenanno

:D

Gigili

It looks like this now:

Alenanno

Ok, where is the circle?

Gigili

What's that thingy in the corner?

Alenanno

Which one?

Describe it... :D

Gigili

18:46

@Alenanno Eh? The black shape in the corner of the scene?

Alenanno

With a black triangle?

This one?

Gigili

Yes, that

Alenanno

@Gigili It's the camera! It's the point from where "the user" will see when you export the image or animation. Do you have a laptop or a desktop computer?

Gigili

@Alenanno Whoa, how do you know that?! Laptop..

Alenanno

@Gigili Ok... Well, I discovered it... Now you know too. :D

Gigili

18:55

Thank you.

I can do what I want, finally.

Alenanno

:P I think you should try to look for tutorials that teach you the tools, first. That way, it'll be easier for you. :)

Gigili

Nono, now I know what to do. Huha.

Enough excitement for today, I need to go to bed just now.

Alenanno

:P Ok!

Gigili

Thank you again @Ale.

Good night.

Alenanno

@Gigili You're welcome! :)

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