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20:08
hyper-neutrino has unfrozen this room.
hello chat :3
20:28
Ooh
20:48
we're so back
wha
WERE BACK HUMANZZZ
@RydwolfPrograms yes
maybe post this in TGC with some backstory?
20:54
Maybe once there's a bit more story fleshed out
I'm quickly patching S1/S2 into the current viewer
So I can direct upload to there
Alright. You might want to git pull if you haven't already, I uploaded all the images and captioned p4c5
okay, who's our cast
@emanresuA that the fan one?
@Ginger redz, hyper, and mousetail are 3/4
also redz debut 👀
21:07
Merge conflict
Idk enough git to fix this lol
skill issue or something
smh surge not redeployed
21:25
I think I did it right
Hopefully I didn't lose some changes somewhere
The way git handles merge conflicts is absolutely vile
 
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22:43
@RydwolfPrograms noway
also ew fandom
surely we can find an alternate host
What's wrong w fandom?
oh, where do I begin
it's absolutely loaded with ads, the staff treat the wikis as an annoyance at best and don't listen to their admins, the company's trying to effectively make it a social network, they do everything in their power to stop wikis from migrating away, they make it as hard as possible to do any real customization or styling, etc etc etc
it's just a shit platform
we could use wikidot or something
@RydwolfPrograms solution: galvenised square steel and eco friendly wood veneer
Plus ofc some screws borrowed from your aunt
hell, once the server's back I could host the wiki myself (although not a mediawiki one, mediawiki is hell to deal with as I learned last time I tried)
Fandom's good emough
22:49
please no
like
wikidot exists and is infinitely less shitty
This website looks like shit
If I stumbled across it by accident I'd think their homepage was someone domain parking
here's how fandom looks to me
all of those ads are animated
it's worse on desktop
On desktop there's adblock tho
22:50
it has no redeeming qualities whatsoever
please please please at least let me find an alternative, it doesn't have to be wikidot
Other than being familiar, easy to use, and good enough?
ah, there's miraheze
We use chrome canvas here, high quality creative platforms aren't exactly our brand
fandom is actively malicious, chrome canvas isn't
I wouldn't call fandom malicious based on how you described them, just capitalist and enshittified
22:53
okay, I was being hyperbolic
but there are alternatives that are neither
I will do the miraheze setup myself if you want
This miraheze website doesn't even link to a wiki on the platform
Can you find one so I can see what this platform even looks like
one second
Ginger I'm just gonna do a fandom. Ads suck but that's the only issue that's actually going to matter
oh, you have to request to make a wiki on miraheze; I think they'd let us but I'm guessing you wouldn't be happy
@RydwolfPrograms uuuuuugh
fine
once the server's back I'm looking into self-hosting it
I'm pretty sure the last time you staged a revolt against fandom it killed the wiki far more than any ads or capitalism did
Idealism's cool and all but there's a subtle art to good enoughing
22:56
oh, I clicked away from the tab and came back to a screen-filling HVAC ad
wonderful
there were four layered ads at the bottom of the screen
what the fuck
I think it's gotten worse
rydwolf I get that your philosophy is good enough but this feels like hacking through a jungle of ads
@RydwolfPrograms that wiki was never alive to begin with I think
there was just no interest
(and I didn't really know what I was doing)
but I still have the DNS for wiki.rto.community iirc
You can request a mirawhatever wiki if you want to, how about that
I'll look into it
Actually miraheze does look neat
ok yeah this shouldn't be too hard
they explicitly say that they support wikis for private stuff like what we're doing
question is, do I make a CGCC general wiki or a specific one for nitro?
Nitro
That's what this one is
CGCC general would be way too broad
23:04
alrighty
neat, we can do custom domains
like ones we own
is senitro.cgcc.wiki taken? :3c
cgcc.wiki is unavailable yeah
hey can you do me a favor and write a two-sentence summary of the wiki
@RydwolfPrograms :(
> Nitro is a comic created by Par for the Course Comics and Film Co., on the Stack Exchange platform. It follows the users of CGCC (and later, PLDI) as they fight tyranny in a quasi-digital realm.
alrighty
is our name "SE Nitro" or just "Nitro"?
Just "Nitro" is the official comic name, but I'd do "SE Nitro" for the wiki name
Since it's less ambiguous and more googleable
23:08
got it
@RydwolfPrograms What about js.wiki? It looks pretty good and doesn't have the issues Ginger mentioned with Fandom
Looks like it has to be self-hosted, which currently isn't an option
Also it doesn't look like it'd be very good for media-related wikis
More for code documentation
I would've put a dash in the URL but meh
I can edit it
23:14
Ooh nice
Could we do se-nitro?
damn, alphanumeric only
well, we can always use a domain we own in the future
we will probably have to wait a few days
until then we can make more pages :3
23:29
hang on lemme invite redz, since she's a character now

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