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A: What would an above-ground residential apartment designed to negate the effects of a one-kiloton nuclear surface burst at 500 meters look like?

AshYou are looking at a piece of real estate that was specifically built with the expectation of taking a hit, the building is simply too expensive to justify if you don't have a reasonable expectation of it being nuked, and has several rather odd and expensive extra features that you'd never bother...

Why does the building have windows in the first place if nobody can see them? Since you have a central air system capable of supporting it in an emergency, surely you'd be better off using it all the time rather than having windows that could be breached.
Ash
Ash
@Cadence Partly aesthetics, people like windows on buildings, they don't like to have to look at huge blank panels of concrete, plus you don't have to pay to light the internal storage/maintenance space.
Are my neighbors even going to notice anything? surely they don't have one of those non-reinforced window-having deathtraps!
Ash
Ash
@Cadence Depends how old their building is and I was thinking of people on the street rather than the neighbours.
Trompe l’oeil paintings that look like windows
Ash
Ash
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@Mary Yeah you could do that.
@Mary It occurs to me that the main reason I put windows was an assumption about building code still requiring them. Either because it's outdated or because it was stupid.
@Cadence It occurs to me that the main reason I put windows was an assumption about building code still requiring them. Either because it's outdated or because it was stupid.
It's wise to put that in your answer because comments can vanish.
Re: ventilation, by the 7-10 rule (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_fallout#The_seven-ten_rule), "the radiation dose rate is reduced by a factor of ten for every seven-fold increase in the number of hours since the explosion", so one would probably want closed circuit ventilation for at least 49 hours (7^2 hr) -> 1% (0.1^2) of the original radiation level) and enhanced filtration for ~100 days (7^4 hr) -> 0.01% (0.1^4) of the original fallout radiation level before resuming normal ventilation.
Re: lead baffle layer, use water tanks instead. The occupants will need a tremendous quantity of water for hosing fallout off of the outside of the structure and its surroundings, preferably into pre-prepared drainage channels that lead to someplace far away.
Ash
Ash
@GrumpyYoungMan Good to know about the ventilation. The water will get contaminated, and by draining the tanks to clean down the building you are removing shielding.
The shielding already did most of its job absorbing the initial radiation pulse at detonation. Afterwards, if the occupants wash the fallout off the building, then they need less shielding because the fallout and other activated material stuck to the building is much of what causes them to continue to need the shielding.
Ash
Ash
@GrumpyYoungMan Your points have been stolen and added to my own, you have been given credit.
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No worries. Minor correction, though: that first "50 days" in your edit should be 49 hours (2 days) of closed circuit ventilation and the second should be ~100 days of enhanced filtration after the detonation (or equivalently ~98 days after ending closed circuit ventilation).
Ash
Ash
@GrumpyYoungMan Oops, well spotted, that should be sorted.
I like this a lot except for the lack of an image depicting a piece of Brutalist architecture, to set your tone.
This would merely require that you renovate an existing structure - WWII German Flak Tower youtube.com/watch?v=6jgvkzD8d3k
I'd think keeping some hallways and rooms lit with electricity would probably be cheaper than nuclear bomb proof windows.
i'd imagine that slanted walls would help a lot. making it pyramid shaped with a flat-ish roof.
Ash
Ash
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@Yay295 Probably but the building code making you install windows anyway is totally a thing I would expect to see.
@PostlimFort Maybe but then again what you may gain in deflection you could be giving up in total height it could be a balancing act.
@Willk Why do people always seem to take photos of Brutalist buildings when the sun is out, I really don't think it shows them at their best.
Re windows: doing completely without means even a brief loss of power is problematic - so you'll need big batteries/generators (on top of what you'd need to run the air filtration) on the assumption that the power infrastructure will go down. Generators, a/c and filtered ventilation to get rid of CO2 all need fairly free air exchange. Many small solid shutters around this physical plant, only opened when needed, would be a massive benefit, but you'd be very vulnerable to a 2nd hit
vsz
vsz
@Cadence : "Why does the building have windows in the first place if nobody can see them" - because despite the building being designed to survive a nuke, it doesn't mean you can't hope for it not to be targeted as soon as it is completed, so you can still enjoy the luxuries of windows before the attack comes, if it comes at all.
@vsz But the answer specifically says otherwise: "People will not live/work exposed to the windows/external wall of the building."
vsz
vsz
@Cadence : if the bombs come, don't they have at least a short forewarning? If they do, they can live/work exposed to the windows and only retreat inside the building (and/or close the windows with a shutter like in the 2012 Dredd movie) if the bombs indeed fall. But if it takes years or decades for the bombs to fall, why not use it at least until then?
@vsz I asked about warning time in a comment on the question and was told there was none, the shelter must work with absolutely no time to react.

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