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12:00 AM
What happens when you cross a hot air balloon with a soap opera star?

SHEEP!!
And markdown
@ewwhite How do you monitor remote clients with OpenNMS? Some kind of agent? Or local NMS servers that report back up to the mothership?
 
@ewwhite is so badass he doesn't need agents, no system would dare not to report.
 
@Ward @ewwhite Doesn't install agents, he just pings nodes. Once. They dump all their SNMP OIDs immediately.
I just found out that I'm a 3rd degree connection on LinkedIn to this guy:
 
12:16 AM
Anyone else immediately think of Samuel L Jackson when they read that headline?
 
12:36 AM
Fuckers, someone in our apartment block is moving out and they filled up every single rubbish bin for the entire complex the day after the bins were collected.
Even triple-bagging can't hold in the stink of a dirty nappy
 
@MarkHenderson How did they have enough crap to even manage that?
 
@ShaneMadden Its only a small apartment block. 10 units, about 25 people, so we don't have that many rubbish bins
And normally they're half empty each week
^ Isn't that just about the most stereotypical sysadmin start menu you've ever seen?
 
MOAR MINESWEEPER!!
 
Haha I don't have Windows games on this PC
(only cos they don't install by default, thus increasing worker productivity by over 9000%)
 
@MarkHenderson All of those are winkey+number shortcuts for me so they don't appear on the start menu
 
12:45 AM
@Joel - why are you pressing keys with your winkie?
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I love the Windows 7/Vista start menu. Start Key > Type > Enter. The list doesn't even get a chance to populate before I've even hit enter. It's only the tiniest bit longer than shortcuts.
@WesleyDavid I thoguht the same thing, but then I figured it out
 
There, sufficiently out of context.
Nope, OpenNMS is out.
Insufficient ability to collect data cross-WAN without aVPN
 
@WesleyDavid What sort of cross-wan connectivity are you after? Is a local proxy for collecting data and transferring it to the main site OK?
 
@MarkHenderson Yes, that would be awesome.
I didn't see an ability in OpenNMS to do that...
 
@WesleyDavid PRTG does that quite well
 
12:51 AM
@WesleyDavid Nah I dont know about OpenNMS. That's how Zabbix works, but I can't really in good conscience recommend it until they fix some glaring omissions
 
I'd make little coupla-hundred-dollar units the size of a hard drive and drop them at client sites.
@MarkHenderson Shewt, really? I just looked at them. I really need to sharpen my fact finding abilities.
@Joel They want money. =(
 
Zabbix is OK, but it lacks:

1. SNMP Traps
2. Loading SNMP MIBs to extract OIDs (there are tools that can do this but they're clunky, you're best off creating them by hand
3. Decent bar charts
 
@MarkHenderson I ended up with Cacti for our networking hardware.
 
@MarkHenderson So in other words it's four hundred years behind every other NMS
@Joel However, PRTG is the bomb - I've never heard bad things about it.
Paessler is one of those "Contact us for pricing!" places.
 
@WesleyDavid Its lack of SNMP traps is really really really frustrating. There ARE workarounds, but I find them clunky. I.E. setting up an external trapper that forwards the traps to Zabbix
 
12:54 AM
@MarkHenderson Yes I HATED that. It's such a core feature. I really hope they get it right. If they do, I'll deploy Zabbix en masse
 
Oh and it doesn't support discreet IPMI sensors, but I've been tracking that feature request and last week it got closed as "implemented" so hopefully it'll come out in the next version or two
@Joel I want that, and the ability to graph the same sensor from multiple hosts against eachother in a bar graph. I.E. % free disk space for all the servers in a group.
On the other "want" list is daily automated reports for that can be set up for C-levels, followed by niceties like descreet IPMI
 
@MarkHenderson YES. And all the data is in MySQL, it's not a terribly difficult query
 
@Joel This is true. I havent' dug into the database in much detail to be honest
But it does mean that without writing a plugin for Zabbix, that data would have to be displayed outside the dashboard
@Joel Sounds like we both have similar experience with Zabbix :P
 
@MarkHenderson Frustrating if only for the sheer potential for glory?
 
@Joel Exactly
 
1:01 AM
I do not understand:
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Q: Monitor LSI 3ware raid controller on ESXi

aseqThis concerns a server that runs ESXi (v. 4.x or 5.x) installed on drives that are configured into a raid10 using an LSI 3ware 97050 raid controller. I would like to know if there is a way to monitor the LSI 3ware series of controllers, in particular the 9750, through ESXi. And to hopefully also...

He's running multiple versions of ESXi on the same server?
 
@WesleyDavid ESXi for quantum computers!
 
And... wants ESXi itself to monitor his storage controller? In addition to the daemons that the vendor supplies?
Soo... wait. My head hurts.
@Joel PRTG needs a Windows server D=
 
@WesleyDavid Yep. Feels bad man
 
@Joel So you can drop a remote station that can do discovery and all that, and then phone home to the mothership?
 
@WesleyDavid That's exactly what it does, yes
 
1:10 AM
And the remote stations can run a non-server OS.... so that's cool.
Like a little NetGate
 
1:28 AM
The comments on this are making my nerd-dander rise
 
1:39 AM
@Joel This.
I hate email
Someone should have implemented that years ago
 
1:50 AM
"Email is horribly broken. It’s a very unreliable system. It’s like putting a note in bottle and firing it from a catapult." <-- Yes, yes it is, as it was designed and implemented.
People have no appreciation for the distributed, ad-hock, and unregulated "development" of the Internet. I'm in f-ing awe ever day that things work as well as they do.
 
@ChrisS Although that issue does shit me, that doesn't annoy me nearly as much as obscure NDRs
And dealing with family members the first time they get them
 
Yeah, well if someone would come up with a comprehensive list of SMTP status codes that we could 'standardize', then maybe we could start griping about non-compliance. But until we even have a proposal, it's hard to complain.
 
@ChrisS It's not hard to search for keywords in an NDR though
 
I completely agree. We should have a set of status codes that can sufficiently describe all common failure modes. There should be a standard set of headers for NDRs that indicate the problems. Mail clients can then pickup those headers and make good suggestions and "friendly" error messages.
 
But yes, standard error codes would be great. And then we wait 10 years for everyone to implement them :p
 
1:56 AM
@MarkHenderson Lots of NDRs have assine codes. Exchange is probably most guilty. I know the NDR for "file too big" for instance, was just the number code, no text at all.
@MarkHenderson It took 30 years to get where we are... change doesn't happen overnight.
 
As much as I like Exchange, from what I hear about its internal workings, its a wonder it works at all
 
@MarkHenderson Yep. Absolutely. I know how to work it. I don't like it at all.
 
Apparently it still use X.509 addressing for everything, and translates them into SMTP addresses where required
Which causes major headaches when it refuses to recognise valid SMTP addresses and you get a single, useless NDR stating "The email could not be sent to the recipent" - that's it. No error codes, nothing.
 
@MarkHenderson Well that makes sense at a level because all the mailboxes are assigned to AD Users by DN
 
Exchange Web Services is pretty useful too for 3rd party integration, but it doesn't return nice error codes. The second it runs into an error (such as an invalid SMTP recipient) it just throws a .NET error
I'd much rather finish my request and then get a standardised response with any problems
 
2:00 AM
There's so many improvements that could be made to e-mail... I feel their frustration that nothing has changed in years (more or less).
 
But at the end of the day, it does work (a lot of the time)
 
where's that graphic about scripting repetitive tasks...
Blue line = "It works well enough" attitude. Red line = Fixing the broken shat in e-mail.
=]
 
I like!
 
2:32 AM
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Q: How to send massive mail in Window

MagicI'm looking for a solution that can send massive mail in Windows. I'm not spaming. My company want to send mail to our user. I don't want to use third party smtp server(like google mail). Because it'll ask captcha when sending several mail continuously. Please suggest me some solution.

...What?
 
It's sad, but any Windows install needs to have a rather lengthy script to tune TCP/IP to suck less than the default configuration. And this isn't even my full list of tricks: serverfault.com/q/378722/9770
 
2:45 AM
@ShaneMadden I am so full of evil. I just answered it. =D
 
@WesleyDavid Aww, I was expecting something about arduously hand-crafting TCP packets.
 
@ShaneMadden My conscience got the best of me. I went back and gave a serious answer.
Wow, my three most prominent tags for the month are "linux, firewall, ubuntu" - what a contrast from where I was at with my skills a year ago today.
 
3:19 AM
Wasn't high enough res. Couldn't print it. So I made a new one so I can print it ;)
Thoguht I would share
Excuse the PNG's transparent background
 
@WesleyDavid Is that only for virtual installs?
 
@MikeyB Virtual and physical. Doesn't matter.
Except that the liklihood of offloading being supported is lower on virtual instances, so that's all the more reason to ensure that everything related to it is disbaled.
I'd correct that misspelling, but I like the sound of "disbaled"
Sounds... sinister.
"I'll remove all your hay!!" - "You beast!!" - "Muhahaha!"
These are the things I think about. -.-
 
3:43 AM
Gahhhhhh Im just having one of those days where I can't even type my own password in properly
Sometimes I feel like writing it into notepad just to see why I keep making the same mistake 15 times in a row, but instead of typing it slowly I just type it faster and faster and hit the enter key harder each time
Maybe if I hit the enter key so hard it will let me in even though I started with my fingers off-by-one on the home row
 
@MarkHenderson Zenoss is out. The modules that I'd use are only for the enterprise edition. The enterprise edition is basically as expensive as OpenView, except it's a yearly fee
Pandora FMS is #1, followed by OpenNMS and Opsview.
 
@WesleyDavid Bugger
I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume that you've already eliminated nagios?
 
4:01 AM
@MarkHenderson Just for the fact that it's comparatively emaciated and not a true NMS. Just a monitoring application.
 
4:52 AM
What did I miss?
@WesleyDavid There's a remote poller in OpenNMS. What type of remote access are you looking for?
 
Whoah, that message came from the future
14:52 apparently
 
I just went to Honolulu Standard Time. Maybe the browser needs a restart.
 
Perhaps I over-exaggurated :P It was only 1 minute fast
It just ticked over to 14:52 here
It was 14:51
SE's clocks must be a min or so faster than mine
 
but it's quiet. I'm sure there will be activity in a few hours
 
its always quiet about this time
Even Wes has gone to bed
It's what, 1am in the US east coast?
 
5:00 AM
7pm in Maui. 1am East Coast.
I used to work at a firm where my US shift ended just as Asia came online with overlap between a Honolulu office and Europe. I couldn't keep track of days.
 
Hrrm
 
@ewwhite 10 pm on the west coast of N.America
 
I know that one of the islands near the the international timeline had the line moved so that they were on the other side of it, because they found it very difficult to trade with their neighbours
 
yeah that was samoa iirc
they moved to match .au
 
Cos it would be Friday there, but Saturday in New Zealand and nobody would answer the phones
 
5:06 AM
rather than .us
 
Thats it
 
They also went from being Left-hand drive cars to Right-hand drive so they could buy cheap cars from AU and NZ
 
heh
 
5:07 AM
Oh excellent my mind is not dead yet :)
 
How long until Microsoft update their date/time code making 30/Dec 2011 an invalid date for the samoa timezone, breaking someones poorly written date code
It's happened before :P
 
howlong until they stop frakking up on leap days
 
1252
A: Why is subtracting these two times (in 1927) giving a strange result?

Jon SkeetIt's a time zone change on December 31st in Shanghai. See this page for details of 1927 in Shanghai. Basically at midnight at the end of 1927, the clocks went back 5 minutes and 52 seconds. So "1927-12-31 23:54:08" actually happened twice, and it looks like Java is parsing it as the later possib...

Guests staying in Samoa's hotels this week will not be expected to pay for a day that does not exist, but employers must still pay staff for the Friday that never was.
 
That's kinda awesome
It's simply the names of the chemical elements set to a possibly recognisable tune
 
5:26 AM
So anyone played with routerboard routers?
 
6:12 AM
@Tacticus I run one at home. Pretty decent.
 
6:44 AM
Morning all :)
 
@ShaneMadden excellent news that's where i intend to put one as well
looking at grabbing routerboard.com/RB2011L-IN
 
7:06 AM
what a weird scenario I got today when I woke up.. one of our terminal servers can't connect to Exchange.. the others work fine. They all sit on the same LAN.
 
What do you get via telnet?
 
telnet? TELNET?
against RPC?
you suck
funny that I was reading this (hilarious) answer at the same time you mentioned telnet
look at the comments...
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A: SQL Server 2008 connection

WebMAOhistBy default, Express allows only Windows Authentication mode, so you should "enable remote connections": http://www.linglom.com/2009/03/28/enable-remote-connection-on-sql-server-2008-express/ Also, telnet service should run on your VPS server for quering with telnet? BTW, where from are you t...

I guess the terminal server just needs a reboot.. RPC endmapper getting stuck or whatever
windows can get weird with 30+ days of uptime and 40 terminal server users online every day :P
 
@pauska Ah, i would just connect to the terminal server and open a telnet to the exchange to see if you aren't on the ADL :)
 
Outlook doesn't use SMTP against exchange :)
 
7:34 AM
Looks like wozniac is having a garage sale
Ah, never mind
not the real one :)
 
G'day
 
uh the hosts file have disappeared from all our terminal servers
 
what did you do to make that happen ?
 
Nothing! I was asleep!
 
what did your guy in .au do then ?
 
7:38 AM
he also swears that he haven't touched anything
 
ghosts !
 
Our Exchange server is b0rking, b0rking hard....
Unable to update my inbox
Send mails
and it looses connection every other minute
best part: I have no control over it :(
I have to wait for the Germans to fix it
 
@BartDeVos Bah - that was my next question ;)
ooh 2 new badges - DNS and UNIX
 
nice :)
 
pfo
8:21 AM
@Ian you sir own SF.
 
 
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9:29 AM
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Q: IBM mainframe OS explained?

athosSorry if my question is stupid. I'm quite new to mainframe world -- previously I played with Windows, touched some linux. Their versions are much simpler. Now I'm to support IBM mainframe, but a bit confused on their OS/mainframe families. In wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_IBM_mai...

how do people get into that kind of situation ?
 
You just wake up one day and BAM, you're supporting mainframes now
 
so it appears
 
one word - outsourcing
 
user profile says "Location: Singapore"
I think our little choppertard might be right on this one
It's probably some poor little underpayed guy who got told to learn mainframes
 
most likely
 
9:37 AM
a la Wildchild
 
the wildchild thing I never really understood either
 
pfo
i wonder they're not voiding their support on the z-Series by letting some moron dick around with it.
usually the 5 9s that IBM gives you with the z/OS/Series are only valid if you have a full-trained (by IBM and their partners) on-site team that operates that beast.
and a mainframe is not only a machine+OS but it's a whole style of operations with runbooks etc.
if that would be my bank/assurance company i'd fucking kill my contract with them knowing they're admitting people with 0 clue to their fucking mainframes.
"played with windows and touched some linux" <- destined to be a mainframe wizzard.
 
9:53 AM
yup
 
pfo
it's the mighty wizzard of ROOT!!111.
flapping butterfly wings to read/write inodes.
on ZFS.
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Q: How to use the same users between 2 domain controllers?

SamselvaprabuWe are having 2 domain controllers. One domain controller is Windows 2008 Sp2 and another one is Windows 2008 R2. Is it possible to use the same username/Password to login from W2K8 Sp2 to W2K8 r2? Is there any setting i need to enable in order to do that?

OMG.
 
Herrow
 
@pfo wow - just...wow
 
^^ Damage wrought on the wifes hand in the search of blood this morning =(
 
I've got some blood in the freezer if she wants some
 
10:03 AM
She'd prefer, was not a good phlebotomist today
And she's had a glucose tollerance test, and she hates Lucozade - so she is very grumpy =)
 
 
2 hours later…
12:03 PM
googleing for an issue with a printer I have the web interface open on a secondary screen with Google open on the primary. After a bit I think I'm getting somewhere but I realise the IP address of the printer isn't right - but then I realise I'm accessing somebody's printer that's been directly exposed to the internet and almost made it inaccessible.
derp derp derp.
 
@tombull89 can you print something? It would be awesome to print messages and tell them it's from God
@tombull89 so what IP was that again?
 
@LucasKauffman Yes, you can directly upload .pdfs to it.
 
@tombull89 share all the IP's?
:3
 
it's a reminder of this...
Mar 2 at 21:49, by tombull89
No way would anyone make their printers directly accessible via the internet. Oh, no no..wait, what?!
 
quite, quite bored today - stuck in something of an eye of a storm - tax-year thing
 
12:16 PM
We've had a bit of another interesting day here - we got another flurry of emails from the SANs last night, of which MSA2312fc Warning: DRIVE_DOWN was one of them. Thank god for HP's quick response with having stuff replaced - we're gonna have gone through two new power supplies and a hard disk by the end of the week.
 
@tombull89 no 24 hour support packagE?
 
@LucasKauffman sorry, just edited it.
We're getting the stuff next-day but it's alarming we've had to have so much replaced.
 
I've always been a bit 'sniffy' about USB since day one, it isn't an ideal protocol for disk systems but it's fine for low-speed stuff - that said I bought a USB 3.0 2.5" 500GB backup disk for my alienware box and wow it's quick, 70MBps on sequential writes - which I think's pretty good
 
@Chopper3 I've been tempted to treat myself to a USB 3 memory stick - but as I've not got any USB 3 ports there's not much point :P
 
no
 
12:21 PM
Which Alienware is it you've got?
 
one of those new little x51's
nice balance of perf/space/cost
about to start modding gta iv for some reason - that's how bored I am
 
Not a bad spec for the price at all.
 
The original USB spec blew chunks for direct access media and the like. The 2.0 and 3.0 protocols have significantly changed USB from a transport bus for CPU polling to a controller-centric bus, especially the bulk DMA transfer abilities. It's humorous as it's all the same lessons IDE learned back in the day.
 
went for the i7 version and swapped the 1TB 7.2 for a 256GB Crucial M4 - seems ok
@ChrisS still no isochronous mode though
 
I recently finished reading a book called "Jacked" about the history of GTA and Rockstar - well worth a read to see where they came from, where they are now, and the cost of getting there.
 
12:24 PM
@Chopper3 I thought they put something in for webcams? Maybe I'm imagining it.
 
@tombull89 hmmm
 
what a lazy piece of shit
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Q: Windows 7 firewall commands

Oz123Ok, call me lazy bastard. This works in WINDOWS XP: netsh firewall add portopening protocol=TCP port=5900 name="VNC" What's the equivalent in Windows 7 ? The documentation is as clear an encrypted man page. Thought I'll get some quick answers here ... Thanks in advance.

 
@MDMarra wow. I'd VTD - if I could.
 
Let's not vote to delete it, though
He deserves to keep those downvotes
 
1:07 PM
So, I'm looking into MSSQL Server aliases for the first time here and everything says that they're completely configured on the SQL server. Am I missing some magic here, or shouldn't there also be a corresponding CNAME made for the alias?
 
@MDMarra Stop being negative. Everbody loves magic.
 
Haha, that's not negative
I just really don't know how they work if you don't have a DNS record getting people there in the first place.
 
You wait for the silicon fairy to alter your hostnames file on the host.
 
Ell
1:25 PM
hi :)
 
hey
 
I don't know who this is but seeing a questions closed by "aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" is minorly amusing.
@Ell Hello!
Would you be so kind to read the name of the room and the first sentence underneath it, and understand it. Then we're cool.
 
@ChrisS why did you lock that post?
And why did you edit out the word "bastard", that seems a little touchy, especially considering the OP used it first
 
1:40 PM
@MDMarra No swearing on the main site, at all. And it's not being used in the context of a child born out of wedlock.
Locked because what's Power good for if you don't abuse it now and then?
 
If you consider "bastard" a swear, then you should start editing "moron" "idiot" "stupid" "retarded" "luser" and dozens of other things
 
We're not allowed to use the word "retarded" anymore. We got a memo about it.
 
@BartSilverstrim Surprised it took so long. :)
 
1:44 PM
I'm allowed to be arbitrary. =]
 
I just think it sucks that the guy can't get downvoted any more
 
Darn it people
 
He asked a terrible question. It's not like people were piling on with nasty comments
 
I'm now tempted to find a excuse to use the word retarded in an acceptable context ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek It seems that @ChrisS has retarded the downvoting on that horrible question.
How's that :)
 
1:46 PM
lol
In a question!
 
@MDMarra Good point.... unlocked
 
Now to request a feature to roll back comment edits :p
 
Oh man, this poor bastard. He bought an external hard drive to back up his accounting data, installed the backup software and then didn't configure any backups.
 
Only mods can edit comments... It doesn't even show you the history. =]
 
@jscott I don't know, some change in regulations or something with the law and the state...I don't pay attention.
 
1:47 PM
@ChrisS: USB was never meant for mass storage tho
ugh
scrolled up it eems
*seems
 
@JourneymanGeek It's not hard. Retard is a verb meaning to slow.
 
@JourneymanGeek Not originally no; but it's a screaming lack of foresight.
 
Trucks have brake retarders.
 
Precisely. I'm not really in a SF question/answer sort of environment tho
asking a question is hard ;p
 
@MikeyB which one?
 
1:49 PM
(well, its easy, but i try not to waste people's time ;p)
 
@BartSilverstrim A WD Mybook or something like that.
 
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A: Economics of buy-to-let (investment) flats

TomTomLucky you - here where I live that does not work, you put money on the table year 1. Anyhow... You HAVE to account for inflation. THat is where the gain comes from. Not investment increase (value of item), but the rent goes higher, while your mortgage does not (you dont own more moeny in 3 year...

Who knew TomTom could be civil?
:)
 
I dunno, I'm on money.se trying to find out wtf I'm going to do about my housing problems
 
@PeterGrace Wait, you're taking investment advice from TomTom?
:)
 
1:54 PM
hahaha! I dunno if I would, to be honest. If he's not belittling people he might not be serious.
 
He's probably running his own bank on a mainframe. On his iPhone.
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@PeterGrace Oh god, 2012 must be the end of the world! Do you see, it's happening already?!
 
haha
 
He can't be snakarton 9000, he's not got the rep to burn. If he gets downvoted too much he'll hit the quality filters.
 

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