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12:35 AM

@Zoredache All I can say is that I've forgotten far more things than I know

12:55 AM

Seriously considered, what do all y'all use for keeping notes? I'm still running around with my bound Composition books as a lab notebook.

@Adrian We moved to confluence

@Adrian Notepad

Has anyone here worked with FIM (Forefront Identity Management)?

1:16 AM

@l0c0b0x Sorry no. I did look over its product page once but decided our company was too small to have any use for it

techrepublic.com/blog/10things/… This list makes me a sad panda

20% isn't bad I guess

@MarkHenderson Since we have license to use it (MS school agreement) my boss is interested in its user's password reset capabilities. Since we're also looking for an SSO for Google apps, I wanted to know if this was available through FIM. Sounds like it is, but wanted to talk to someone who actually has it working. Sounds a bit ambitious.

@Joel The letters A and + make me cry every time

@MarkHenderson Second

1:21 AM

I had to take a stupid A+ course back in the day. Fucking useless. If I see A+ on anyones resume I'm going to assume that they start knowing nothing about computers, and they now know the wrong thing

@Joel I only recognized 3 out of those 10 certs.

@l0c0b0x I think it's a terrible list.

Yells out: "Help!!!... Does somebody here have a CompTIA Healthcare IT Technician certificate???????"

ACSP - I thought the correct way of dealing with an apple user is to just throw some glitter on the other side of the room and watch as they rush to play with it. Then replace their OS with one that works in a business while they're glittering eachother.

I really need to learn more vim shortcuts

1:27 AM

@MarkHenderson these days you need to toss an iOS device.

As much as I quite like the iPhone, I find it so frustrating that they're just so hard to remotely administer. Apple offer NO OOB products that will allow you to do so, you have to spend big bucks on 3rd party products. And even then you can't offer remote assistance.

Even if I can just see a fucking screenshot updated every 2 seconds of the users screen would make life so much easier

@MarkHenderson It's too small for my fat fingers

We have approx. 500 iPhones and iPads using our SaaS applications on their iOS devices and they're a nightmare for the support people

@Joel Really? The iPhone is actually quite large I thought

Bart Silverstrim

So I was reading some website stuff in my off hours, and found something that just SCREAMED SF chat.

But it's NSFW.

@MarkHenderson Galaxy nexus is much bigger and nicer to type on

Bart Silverstrim

1:29 AM

cracked.com/…

I'll just leave it there in case some of you giggling psychopaths want a tune to stick in your heads for awhile.

@BartSilverstrim How much NSFW?

@MarkHenderson There's women in brassieres

Bart Silverstrim

It shows nothing other than medical drawings.

It's on Cracked.com. It's not porn.

@joel I rather like the ability to loll stuff up while I'm out at a remote site, hence paper copies.

@Joel Pft, if you read any of the cheezburger sites during lunch you'll see that :p

Bart Silverstrim

1:32 AM

Jusst turn the volume down if there's company.

Lemme see if I brought headphones. I work with two other female devs but they're pretty robust in what offends them :p

Bart Silverstrim

The tune is stuck in my head...

so...catchy...

IPAs and iPhone keyboard are bad combination. :-/

Bart Silverstrim

Pauska's sock makes an appearance.

Almost everyone's left the office. KPOP TIME

1:44 AM

@BartSilverstrim Amusing, but seems more applicable to all males, not just adolecents

Also, the 'next' video on that site is more SFW and hilarious cracked.com/…

Bart Silverstrim

@ChrisS boobies...boobies.../bopping head to music

...the hero of Canton, the man they call JAYNE...

@BartSilverstrim Fuck now im going to have that song stuck in my head

Bart Silverstrim

Which one? I'm alternating.

The FireFly Jayne song

Bart Silverstrim

"Our love for him now, ain't hard to explain! The hero of Canton! The man they call Jayne!"

"Looks like we got here right in the nick of time. So what does that make us?"
"Big damn heroes, sir..."

1:59 AM

Three words: GONE BABY GONE

odesk.com/jobs/…

Bart Silverstrim

"You want to run this ship?!"
"YES"
"Well...you cant!"

...

"This landing is going to get interesting."
"Define 'interesting'."
"Oh god oh god we're all going to die..."

...

"If someone tries to kill you, you try to kill them back!"

...

"Mercy is the mark of a great man."
-thrusts sword into him-
"Guess I'm just a good one."

@JeffFerland Screwwwwwwwwwwwwed

Bart Silverstrim

There's a reason it's called ephemeral storage.

"We put all our data into one basket and now it's all gone. We need someone to magically make it reappear. Are you that special someone? Contact us! We have the desperation and a $50 check standing by!"

2:17 AM

@BartSilverstrim I notice that they advertise it as < 10hrs

Bart Silverstrim

"You're watching that again?!" - my wife

Which I guess to be fair, it's really a 1 minute job "Sorry, it's gone. Now, I bill in half-day increments at $150/hr, so that'll be $600, thanks"

Bart Silverstrim

I don't know how they contacted AWS to be told it's gone and they think they can find an outside consultant that will be able to retrieve it.

Backups...what black magicks be that?!

Just had a sales guy bitching and moaning cos he accidentally deleted a 1,500 row spreadsheet of leads that he had spent 5 hours sorting out. I got back his spreadsheet, but it was totally un-sorted. "oh, no, I'm going to have to spend houuurrss re-sorting this" he said.

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10 seconds, "Format as table", "Sort", "Division ASC, Employees DESC", done

It amazes me that people don't know how to do basic things in Excel

Bart Silverstrim

... O_o

2:24 AM

My thoughts too. Thankfully he's gracious and appreciated the fact that he learned something new, rather than being scared for his job cos the lists can be sorted in seconds

Bart Silverstrim

"Want me to make you irrelevant with a five line PERL script?"

"Oh wow, you can filter rows too!" I just heard him say from the other room (Format as Table gives you nice column headers) :P

@BartSilverstrim Haha, well you can't replace good old fashioned honest face to face sales with Perl

But part of my job is making others redundant

Bart Silverstrim

You never met Perl then. She's quite the babe.

I wrote a routine that pulls out emails from an Exchange mailbox based on a set of rules, and then breaks apart the emails into parts and inserts them directly into the database. This client had two full time employees just sitting there all day typing the requests in manually. Poof, gone in 5 hours of work ladies

Bart Silverstrim

They must have loved you.

2:27 AM

Not only that, but error rate for the girls was about 10% (they hadn't heard of copy and paste, apparently, and were re-typing everything by hand). New error rate: 0%. Time to import: Down from 9 hours to 2 minutes after email received

I do feel a little bit bad for costing people their jobs, but on the other hand, they're jobs that shouldn't have existed in the first place

@BartSilverstrim It was a building company. The re-tiled my kitchen floor for free, which was nice :p

Bart Silverstrim

I meant the two employees must have loved you.

Haha sorry ladies, I'm taken

Although one of them was a very hot young 20-something with large... talents and low cut tops and short skirts

Bart Silverstrim

I can't believe there are 40 people bidding to get that data back.

O_0

I can't even imagine how they'd do it!

If it was ephemeral storage on Amazon... how?

@BartSilverstrim Your data's gone... and now your money too!

Oh, that's sad for you… "Lost all data AWS instance store. Amzn says it's gone." — 40 people bid on doing impossible https://www.odesk.com/jobs/AWS-URGENT-help_~~4c82cfc9732742c5?sid=53002&tot=302&pos=2

Tweeted by jbferland on March 29, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Bart Silverstrim

I'd love to hear the transcript of this interview and "solution."

I mean...really. I'd really like to know how this plays out.

Plus as an ephemeral server...how much data did they even have? Those tend not to be too large, usually.

2:36 AM

@BartSilverstrim I'm tempted to bid with my standard rate and the initial statement of, "This is completely impossible and cannot be done."

Bart Silverstrim

That's what I'd picture going down. But I wonder if these are people who are deluded or con artists.

@BartSilverstrim Ehh, instance stores can get pretty big if you've got a larger size machine

Bart Silverstrim

I.e., working those hours and billing them to "try" to retrieve it.

@BartSilverstrim I bet you'll find both

Bart Silverstrim

Like I said...fly on the wall. It would be like listening to sales people in stores like Staples and Best Buy explaining computers to doddering potential marks. Er, customers.

"This here has four gigglebytes of memory. That's huge! More than you'd ever really need unless you're mail surfing on the Internet..."

Time to crawl into bed. Night...

2:41 AM

Cya Bart

@JeffFerland I do feel a bit sorry for them though. I know how it feels to lose all of your data, ever

@MarkHenderson Oh, it sucks hard. <3 my backup servers.

(I found out that we did have regular backups, but at that point in time I didn't know and thought I had lost everything and we'd go broke)

Fucking "delete from" clause without a where

But yay for regular SQL transaction log backups "Restore to the very transaction before Mark almost sent us bankrupt"

eep

Admins get bigger CTRL-Z buttons because we maker bigger OH FUCK SHIT WHAT DID I JUST DO!?

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@JeffFerland Just as long as you have an employer who understand that shit happens

and gives you money to put safeguards in place

3:03 AM

@MarkHenderson There is no such thing as a system without some leve of safeguard in place. I don't spec a Plan A without a Plan B.

3:15 AM

@JeffFerland I'd like to know what business it was that lost their website on AWS. So that I know not to ever do business with them.

@Adrian I wouldn't worry about running into them.

So, that's kinda cool:

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A: Is bonding mode=5 a solution against MAC flapping?

In mode 5, or balance-tlb mode, outgoing traffic uses the MAC address of the slave interface that it's leaving, instead of using the address of the bond interface. Typically, the bond's MAC is used for all traffic, which can cause a MAC flapping condition between two ports on a given switch - ea...

tl;dr. Have a +1

hahaha

If I were using headers in that answer, the bottom two sentences would have a header of 'tl;dr'.

3:32 AM

Well, this IS going to get flagged if there's any folks about with issues. But like the Yelling Bird routine on The Bridge, it's worth it.

NOT SAFE FOR WORK. ANYWHERE.

youtube.com/watch?v=aHpDPuh8A2Q

hah ayeah saw that

Dont worry we wouldn't flag that on here :p

Granted, I'm still a wee bit in the happy phase of my Wednesday evening bender, but that was perhaps the best Youtube video I've ever seen.

3:53 AM

I'm not unbiased though. I think I would gladly pay money to listen to Sarah Donner read the phone book.

4:41 AM

Why does SO upvote this stuff before sending it over?

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Q: Can a Cisco 3550 be used as router?

I'm not sure if this is the correct place to ask such a question, but I'll give it a shot anyway. If it isn't, let me know, and I'll remove this post. Anyway, very recently I picked up a Cisco 3550 just to play around with networking and to familiarize myself with Cisco's command line configurat...

networking cisco

Who knows

1 hour later…

Kenny Rasschaert

5:53 AM

@ShaneMadden I accidentally voted to close -_- don't ask.

6:41 AM

Any of you guys know what the heck this OP is trying to do?

serverfault.com/questions/374457/…

7:16 AM

@Adrian try to make his printer in the lightning jet

7:28 AM

:4013331 which one?

@LucasKauffman i misread it

:)

lol

with 3 different browsers -more than 2 browsers-

that's kind of obvious

1 hour later…

8:50 AM

@LucasKauffman serverfault.com/suggested-edits/6148

@TomOConnor ow it was more about the capitals, just change it to URLs then

approved ^^

heh

Two Hours to get to work this morning...normally 50 minutes. FML.

Also I've seen a lot of "panic buying" at petrol stations - seriously, people?

@TomOConnor un momento...

@tombull89 time to start cycling? ;)

@tombull89 it's not like they don't have to give a weeks notice of a strike !

8:55 AM

@tombull89 Yeah.. It's crazy here too. Fucking loonies.

There's plenty of petrol to last a few days of strike action if nobody panic buys.

@AliGibbs bit too far - plus I don't have a bike :P It got stolen a few years back and I didn't bother replacing it.

My brother cycles to work - in the past four years he's got through about 7 bikes, through theft, damage, and just running it into the ground.

He had a fixed-wheel which lasted all of a month before that went.

@TomOConnor it's the same mentality as people stcking trolleys full of food for the one day closure of the supermarkets at christmas

@TomOConnor you edited again no? I approved that

@LucasKauffman I just changed it to URLs

@TomOConnor how far?

9:01 AM

@TomOConnor I know :p

@AliGibbs Probably meant to ping me - about 12 miles but it would be along two of the busiest roads in the city.

@tombull89 i did, opps. 12miles isn't too bad, cycle provision in the UK could be so so much better!

9:42 AM

@Iain meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/127358/…

10:12 AM

@tombull89 it's gone - he deleted his account - I even wrote a nice answer for him

10:24 AM

whats that "effing-markdown" button top right ?

(link is broken)

@Iain ah well. Can't help those that don't want to be.

@AliGibbs it's a comment on the functionality of markdown

1 hour later…

11:48 AM

suggest I want to play around with sharepoint,exchange, IIS and SQL server, how much memory will I need?

like basic stuff, 10 users or so, just to fiddle with it

Around 8GB should cut it to have something workable

@BartDeVos thanks

note that SQL will eat -everything- it can

you should probably set a max memory limit

@Dan here?

12:06 PM

this (SU) question...am I right? would you need CALs for using Server 2008 as a VPN server?

yes

the only thing not requiring cal is IIS

and something else I can't remember.. dns perhaps

Bart Silverstrim

12:21 PM

Paging @chopper3 ...

@tombull89 You need CALs when MS doesn't like you. It's how most of their licensing is enforced.

12:35 PM

Ehm, what does it mean this ain't a place for "Live Support"? Will you get angry and shout if I ask a question? :)

@IlariKajaste quite possibly

Bart Silverstrim

Depends on the question.

If it's a general question that others could benefit from, it goes to the site. That's the rule of thumb.

we prefer people to ask questions on the main site - asking here deprived the community of information

Bart Silverstrim

But since you asked first, what is the question?

Well it's a bit interactive in nature so I though chat'd be more proper.

Bart Silverstrim

12:37 PM

...which is...

Is there a way to ask what specific dns server responds from a domain query?

I would think host domain.com my.dns.server would do it

Bart Silverstrim

You mean you want a specific DNS server to reply to a query.

well I have a web interface to configuring the name server

and I changed a dns setting there

I do know it takes a while to proragate everywhere

but I would like to confirm that the server in question is serving the correct ip.

Bart Silverstrim

This would be a good question for the site for records purposes.

In my opinion.

The thing is, it's already been multiple hours and host domain.com my.dns.server is replying with the OLD ip, not the new one.

Bart Silverstrim

12:41 PM

But you have to spell out what you've done, and what you're hoping to accomplish.

Yeah, I can add it as a question as well

But since I'm not that familiar with DNS, I might be missing some concept here

Bart Silverstrim

What you're describing sounds right to me.

for example, is the host supposed to reply with the old IP until it's propagated?

Bart Silverstrim

You don't have control over how long it takes for the time to live on your host's DNS to propagate.

it could be half an hour, it could be 48 hours.

Depends on caching.

use dig @server hostname

Bart Silverstrim

12:42 PM

Depends on TTL setting.

@voretaq7 I saw this and thought of you

user image

Yeah, but i'm in asking the dns sever directly. Or, that is, is there a way to ask the dns directly?

There's no such thing as DNS Propagation. It's a lie we tell people because it's easier to understand the idea of propagation than caching, TTLs, and misconfigured servers.

Bart Silverstrim

But it can take a long time for records to get updated.

@ChrisS that's a discussion for ELU

12:44 PM

... so the server that I directly changed the settings from (using the web interface) will also reply with the old ip?

Bart Silverstrim

@chrisS: then there's no such thing as meme propagation, only stupid people with nothing else to occupy themselves for a few minutes on Reddit.

:-P

Could be caching it.

Restart the DNS on it.

'sup noobs

Does the command host domain.com dnsserver.net ask it specifically from dnsserver.net (and that only)?

@IlariKajaste it should fairly quickly respond with the new data

Bart Silverstrim

REBOOT REBOOT REBOOT

It should, doesn't mean it will.

man host

12:45 PM

Ain't my own dns, it's a third party service I have

Bart Silverstrim

...looks like it.

@BartSilverstrim That's different; they have new snippets of stupid, which disseminate from a single origin... DNS has records, of various versions, which are cached until they expire locally...

@Iain Yeah, that's what I thought...

Bart Silverstrim

@ChrisS attention span is just organic caching.

@IlariKajaste should doesn't mean does. Don't you people run Windows?!

@BartSilverstrim Nope. :)

So the problem is with the dns provider... Because I've been thinking should I call them or not.

Bart Silverstrim

12:46 PM

Oh, that's different. He's not a professional sysadmin. Booting from chat...boot from chat...boot from chat...

Send them a scathing email.

or at least they can tell me if theres some internal cache in their server or something.

@IlariKajaste what is the domain ?

Bart Silverstrim

DNS is cached.

That's what it mostly is. Cached records. You just don't know how ADHD their configuration is.

HWM Onsite Sep 17, 2008 Oct 21, 2011 Expired - Where's @voretaq7 's sad panda when you need it.

@BartSilverstrim It's been many hours already. Anyway, I'll call them and add this as a question on the main site too.

Bart Silverstrim

12:50 PM

@IlariKajaste Again many hours doesn't mean that's when it'll actually get passed, unless you mean up to 48 hours.

You can set a DNS server to cache records for many days at a time.

You can set it for just a matter of minutes.

It's going to be a long, long day.

@ChrisS sad panda

Bart Silverstrim

I missed something you removed...did you post passwords and I missed it?

user image

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@BartSilverstrim I use keepass; I'd really have to go out of my way to post a password here...

12:56 PM

@ChrisS what was tghe name of the FF integrstion layer you use ?

But as long as I'm at it: Wo!e5XQUYF68,hPH if you can figure out what it goes to, have at it. =]

@Iain PassIFox in FF; KeePassHttp in KeePass

@ChrisS I tried passIFox a couple of weeks ago but the latest version appeared to be broken

I've only got three complaints about the system so far. 1. If you don't have a kee database open, FF gets a banner across every page with a login button saying you don't have the DB open. 2. Pairing a website with your login entry in the DB is a small-PITA if you keep it organized; but a huge PITA to figure out how the f-ing thing works in the first place because it ain't obvious. 3. There's no built in option to auto sync the DB on changes; I setup a trigger to "Save" on changes, but

If the DB was changed on another computer, it will prompt to Sync the two copies. There is an option to Sync the DBs I found somewhere, but you can't script a trigger to Sync on Changes... Actually the trigger doesn't trip on changes, it trips anytime data on the forms changes.... a relatively minor annoyance.

For the record, the company said on the phone that the situation does sound weird. They're looking into it.

(I'll write a question about this later today)

(to the main site)

@Iain I'm running PassIFox 1.1.4

1:03 PM

@ChrisS I don't think it likes keepass 2.18 I couldn't get it to work anyway

I'm running 2.18

hmm

You found this site, with both PassIFox and KeePassHttp? passifox.appspot.com

1:16 PM

@ChrisS that's the same as the Readme from github. I just reinstalled it all and I remembered what the problem was. I couldn't import all the passwords I already had stored - there was a problem with the importer

Ah; I don't remember the exact steps of the importer, but I do remember it being a bit archaic and obtuse.

anyone here running windows 8?

Bart Silverstrim

..."Anyone here running from windows 8?" <-FTFY

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yeah well I'm about to unless I figure this shit out

I'm ok with the metro infestation, the problem is however that I can't use any keyboard shortcuts

the windows key for example does not work at all

Bart Silverstrim

SURPRISE! You found a feature.

1:30 PM

I'm not sure whether I want to vote this up or down: serverfault.com/a/374843/26130

@BartSilverstrim no, not the windows button, but the actual key on the keyboard

maybe it's my keyboard.. it's this fancy thingy with lcd and everything

@pauska It doesn't toggle you between desktop and metro interfaces?

Bart Silverstrim

That sad panda looks more like sociopath panda.

@ChrisS it should send me to the new metro start menu.. win+c should send me to search etc, but all I get is a "ding" in my speakers

I gotta find some kind of software that tells me what key I'm pressing.. there must be some kind of incorrect mapping here

@pauska Probably your fancy keyboard.

@pauska On-Screen Keyboard program will show you most of the "modifier" keys.

1:42 PM

@BartSilverstrim hi, sup?

Bart Silverstrim

Hey, @chopper3.

Question about your experiences with VMware.

mad day/night, shattered

Bart Silverstrim

One that I'm hoping is a little less googleable here, if you know what I mean.

k

Bart Silverstrim

Do you know if ESXi (4.1 specifically) does something with teaming nics in a way difference from when you have the "full" VMware package addons in some way?

I was told that using etherchannel on Cisco switches to combine 2 physical nics is unreliable with ESXi.

Instead they created 2 virtual switches and said to assign server X to this, server Y to that, to get better performance and control.

1:44 PM

no diff no, unless you're talking ent plus and the cisco nexus v1000 software L3 switch, that's different

@ChrisS yep, that verified it.. almost no special keys get recognized

@BartSilverstrim it doesn't really do etherchannel/lacp at all, regardless of version/licence - it's not great at that, hence all my 10Gbps nics

Bart Silverstrim

Nope. Nothing that expensive. I was just going to combine to gig nics on a Dell server to a cisco switch through etherchannel to get a faster combined connection for the VMs.

it is etherchannel, and it works fine

doesn't work like that properly/easily

1:45 PM

you just gotta know your limitations

Bart Silverstrim

So on a on-the-cheap public education system, you'd agree with multiple vswitches to connect to individual gig cards and manually divvying them up?

I'd not no, not really, massive pain

can't

I've used etherchannel on ESXi 4.1 without any problems, but hey, don't listen to me :)

Bart Silverstrim

I'm listening to you too @pauska :-)

I'm just trying to tap @chopper's insider knowledge brain ;-)

I'm pretty used to squishing out every single bit of performance, since we only have 1gbps both for storage and networking

1:48 PM

brain's not working, had 2.5 hrs sleep since 6am yesterday - ignore me I suggest

Bart Silverstrim

The guy that was setting it up with the cisco switch was rather...sensitive to the implication that I had read other information about etherchannel working well.

I thought it more of a pain to manually juggle vswitches and particular interfaces.

You need to take a look at your infrastructure first. A drawing would help me alot.

First of all, I assume (or hope) that you're not connecting your hosts to a single switch?

Bart Silverstrim

Physically there is one switch the host is connected to.

We're a public school in the US. You're lucky it's connected to a switch and not a hub.

is it just a single host?

Bart Silverstrim

Yup.

No vmotion.

1:50 PM

ah well then, I guess it's ok since you don't have any host redundancy

what kind of cisco switch?

Good morning Faulters.

Bart Silverstrim

We have a lower-powered host running 4.0. No shared storage.

I'd have to check what the switch was.

well, if it's 2960 and up you're safe

Bart Silverstrim

3xxx series.

but, the most important question of all - are you aware of the limitations of bonding nics into etherchannel (or lacp, if vmware supported it)?

cause you have to keep in the back of your head that you won't get 2gbit/s in a single data stream

Bart Silverstrim

1:52 PM

They think I'm an idgit for running RAID 10 on the host due to lost space. Let alone questioning the use of vswitch-per-NIC instead of etherchannel.

What limitations am I overlooking?

I would also run raid10 on a single host, raid5 dies pretty quickly when lots of vm's are writing at the same time

I don't know, I'm asking if you're confident of what etherchannel brings

It only helps if you have several datastreams going at once - and that they use more resources than a single 1gbit pipe will deliver

Bart Silverstrim

From what I've read in tradeoffs, the multiple IP and multiple MAC hashing are not as performant as etherchannel bonding if it's available.

And I thought the load on the host is lower through etherchannel use on a cisco switch.

the hypervisor doesn't do any real etherchannel logics, it's the cisco switch that does the actual load balancing based on a selected rule

I'll make a post about this if it's too much to ask for, but how could I go about removing printers remotely from machines on the network? When I say remove, I want to delete printers that are installed via TCP/IP ports. There's probably a GUI tool that interacts with psexec out there. Anyone of of such a tool?

just don't have a impression that 2x1gbit's in EC gives you 2gbit.. it only gives you 2gbit if you have more than 1 datastream running at full tits

Bart Silverstrim

1:56 PM

right, and the use of MAC hashes puts a cpu load higher (as I recall) to compute the traffic clow.

These printers were manually installed, not through GPO

Bart Silverstrim

No, didn't think it would give 2gbit. But it should give some boost for multiple VM's trying to hit the network.

As you said.

@BartSilverstrim honestly, I wouldn't care about any cpu usage.. we're in 2012

yeah, correct

Bart Silverstrim

My impression was that this will be more of a pain to administer, having multiple vm's on a particular vswitch.

:-/

But hey, it is what it is.

I wanted to get some outside advice on it to confirm I wasn't making things up out of the blue.

we have all our vm's on 1 vswitch

it's not painful at all

do you have cli access to the switch?

Bart Silverstrim

1:59 PM

He set it up so that nic1 is vswitch1, nic2 is vswitch2, etc.

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