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10:15
Morning!
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serverfault.com/review/low-quality-posts is a live implementation of the heuristics described in this meta post
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@JeffAtwood Wow. That's cool :)
we're going to start blocking some answers with a EULA that score poorly on that heuristic
or maybe refusing some answers outright
(for new users only)
Only answers, or questions too?
11:33
Good morning!
12:10
Any of you smart fellows got an answer for this? (no, just because I'm posting a question in here, does not mean i want it closed. )
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Q: Secure corporate document storage

Tom O'ConnorOne of the more interesting arguments currently rumbling around the office is the lack of backup for the HR person's laptop. This contains a copy of the contract and other HR type info on every member of staff we've got working here. It's certainly confidential information, some of it contains NI...

I think we've said this before, and please dont take me for being arrogant - we usually find questions like this via the site itself
The chat would be pretty pointless if every question author would log on to the chat, link to their question and ask for answers :)
That being said - may I ask why you're allowing HR to store sensitive documents on a laptop wich is allowed to be taken off-site?
The basics here are: Drive encryption with strong authentication (fingerprint+password), centralized and secured document storage (like sharepoint in a separate and locked vlan for HR only)
@pauska That bit would rely on them agreeing that it's a good idea. Just getting backup is a godsend. Yes, I'm looking for a new job.
@pauska Dunno why it's a laptop. Just always has been (way before I started here.. Something about being able to work wherever she is.)
Well, if they dont think its a good idea to encrypt sensitive data when its taken offsite then you don't have any responsibility
Honestly, you can buy an off-shelf HP business laptop and get encryption included at the base cost
12:27
@pauska You know they'll find some way to make it my problem, especially now i've voiced my concerns over it. This is why managers who have no background in IT should keep their fucking noses out, and just supply me with money to fix things.
given free reign, i'd just backup the laptop, nuke it, put truecrypt on, enable the fingreprint thingy, buy a 4TB nas, do encryption on there, and offsite it to iron mountain
but i bet they'd never see that it'd be a good investment.
Ben
Ben
Tom, please for your own sake send an email to somebody and get it in writing that they are unwilling to do anything. At least then you've done as much as you can.
-13 outside this morning, and the heating is broken at work. Brrrr :-(
@RobertMoir Same. -14 in west london, and office is decidedly nippy.
Ben
Ben
Eek, I thought -8 was bad where I am
for once, it seems the further south you are the worse it gets, normally its the other way around huh
12:33
heh
i only went arse-over-tit twice on the way into work, there's an interesting pattern of grit on the back of my coat.
lovely, hopefully the only thing hurt was your dignity
I'm quite pleased though, my nephew's birthday present was delivered with no mishaps. He's 8 tomorrow and its nice for kids with their birthdays close to Christmas not to have their birthday 'lost' in it
Ben
Ben
Oh dear god, someone has given this an upvote :/
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A: Recover data from a physically damaged hard drive

Rajathttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ul97jWv2PKY in above link if see he is changing head of HDD try if you can :)

i know :-(
Oh, Rajat again
I've discussed about his posts before
I still feel I have correctly identified the right piece of hardware for that situation
12:36
He's just a google robot
Ben
Ben
I actually flagged that for mod attention, it's a bloody dangerous suggestion
Standalone Sysadmin
PICC 10 Call for Participation
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/standalone-sysadmin/rWoU/~3/0AM7Hx00H8Q/
good idea, perhaps I should flat it too. The person who asked the question seems to think its a good idea, which is worrying.
Ben
Ben
I totally agree the best hardware is the telephone :)
This is the problem with some people, they only like the answers that tell them what they wanted to hear instead of backing off and wondering if they need to re-think their whole approach
flagged it too
Ben
Ben
12:39
I think the bad quality posts filter should be modified. if(($current_rules) || ($poster == 'Rajat') || ($poster == 'TomTom'))
God knows how TomTom and Rajat have the rep they do
Like you say, Rajat is a Google monkey and TomTom is mostly rude and offensive
TomTom is rude but often raises good points. I've often upvoted his posts for the content, while wincing at the tone.
afternoon
Ben
Ben
OK, he does raise some good points, but his delivery is appalling
yes indeed
I can be blunt myself at times, so when some of his replies have me cringing they must be pretty bad
12:42
he reminds me of someone who used to hang out on comp.os.vms - right answers just delivered very badly
Ben
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Sure, we all have bad days or get particularly wound up by a single question and post a terse reply, but his always seem very aggressive and "I am so holier than thou"
12:57
@RobertMoir Last week, i slipped and fell on one side, the bruise on my leg is iphone shaped, and the touch screen no-longer works in the top left corner
@Iain Pretty much everywhere on Usenet had That Guy. a.o.l.slackware had several.
Unfortunately I think it's the nature of the industry... everybody's worked with people who could do with a little improvement on their... ahem... social skills.
@jscott yep Carl Lydick was the 1st I was exposed to and the one I remember
I'm always of the opinion that no matter how right I might think I am, there's the possibility I might be wrong... and that's how we all learn.
13:07
Yes, I remember his sister posting the news on comp.os.vms
Well, you guys kinda are horrible this morning.
It's cold.
it's still -8.5 here
Start off reading the stuff about tomtom and rajat (can't do data backup but wants to buy hardware recovery tools?) and then bring up someone dying known online.
13:12
It's Monday, cut some slack.....
Oh, hey Tom...sorry to hear you have someone working with sensitive data but don't have management that actually has you encrypt stuff before he goes toodle-looing offsite.
I've tried replacing disk platters myself. I've come to the conclusion that it's not possible. FWIW
This is pretty interesting though...
@Jscott: Yeah, but I went from laughing to frowning in a few minutes span.
@BartSilverstrim Yeah, it's a constant pain.
13:13
@Iain Ouch. It was -14 the other Monday over here....
My comment was for the benefit of others that find the question, @Tom. I didn't want to make you think it was a personal thing, for clarification.
@TomOConnor The only use for broken harddisks is for the shiny platters and the kickass magnets... just don't get your fingers in the way ;-)
I'm trying to figure out why he wants to buy the hardware to do this...sans clean room...
@BartSilverstrim Turn that frown upside down.... ;)
@AndySmith, I only live a mile from the Irish sea and it normally keeps us much warmer than it is atm
13:15
Start a new business, or does he think he can get data recovery equipment at a gas station?
@Iain Yeah... I live in Doncaster (but work in Leeds) and we very rarely get any snow with it being so flat... but we had a foot and a half the other week.
@AndySmith Ohhh yes
@BartSilverstrim My gas station sells hammers. Isn't that the right kind of data recovery?
Quite enjoyable to watch friends/family attempt to remove hdd magnets from your refrigerator...
s/My/My local/g
13:19
I stand by what I said: I'm all for learning new things and teaching people, but sometimes the answer really is "If you have to ask... then don't"
I have a stack of HDD magnets by my desk from dismantled harddisks. The disks had secure data on them so we... ahem... dismantled them by hand
@AndySmith ditto
we have a few dismantled HDDs laying around that the lecturers use to show students what the inside of a disk drive looks like
They're a handy source of stepper motors too.
I had to destroy 75 hard disks at $job[-3], ended up taking them to pieces by hand, and removing the fun stuff, then hitting platters with a BIG hammer in the carpark.
Some platters aren't aluminium, but glass
and shatter impressively.
13:23
:-D
Yeah, we discovered that... our method of testing was to place them in a cardboard box and then throw things at them from a distance
Seriously, we found bits like 50m away.
haha
Oh yeah, I can believe it!
I've also taken an arc welder to one, (in a spirit of, I wonder what happens if)..
Giving them a good hiding with an axe is always fun, too
13:25
!!!
Data recovery? Pfeh.
the motors can't take 100A
haha
destroying technology always reminds me of the scene from Office Space
13:43
@TomOConnor I discovered glass platters when I was bending them out of shape in the trash can. That was an exciting afternoon.
Oops.
Did it involve a visit to the ER?
ph dear
@packs Workmate tried bending one off the end of his desk before realising it was glass... ended similarly ;-)
@TomOConnor Shocking little blood that day :) It did take a long time to find, and clean up, all the glass slivers that found all the disused corners of that room.
I broke the rear window of my old car once. We were finding bits of glass for the next 5 years. Recently sold the car to my father, who then sold it on, but decided to hoover it out, and found yet more glass bits.
13:57
Hey guys, don't mean to interrupt but I'm looking for some MySQL advice. I'm setting up my first linux server to serve php websites and am wondering what the best version of MySQL is to download for my needs. Closed employee-only access behind a corporate firewall, population ~300 and I'm looking to setup an Ajax Push Engine on the server as well
Im just not sure if the "Community" or "Cluster" version would be the best.....
Ah, The fantastic Mr Fox Pro..
yes, I am now converting
Download whichever version of mysql is latest for your distribution..
what linux distro are you using?
the latest ubuntu which I think is 10.XX
You want the community edition.
ok
so run sudo apt-get install mysql-server
14:00
why is community the best choice in this case?
and let apt (the package manager) do the hard stuff for you ;)
because it's the one that's in the packages.
I was thinking I just didn't have the sheer volume for a cluster server...is that true?
something like that.
300 users? how many concurrent?
cluster is for .. uh. masochists.
probably about 150 at any given time
lol
yeah, just use community.. it'll be fine if you adjust the settings right. .get a copy of mysql-tuner.pl and that'll help you set it up after it's been running for a few days (it needs background info on the server first.)
"mysql-server - MySQL database server (metapackage depending on the latest version)"
that's the name of the ubuntu package..
sudo apt-get install mysql-server ;)
job's a good un.
14:03
nice, thanks
oh wait...do you know what version of mysql gets installed if I apt-get install XAMPP
I wouldn't do that.
well, i can't find an xampp package
tom@holborn:~$ apt-cache search xampp
no matches.
run sudo tasksel and select "LAMP server"
lol alright, I read something about it installing php, php myadmin, mysql, apache, and an ftp client
FTP is dead. everything is scp these days.. at least, in the real world ;)
14:11
alright then, I appreciate the help
There's some fantastic docs on the ubuntu community site about installing a LAMP stack
but you've got to figure the rest out for yourself.. It's fun. :)
You're at the stage where it's perfectly acceptable to spend a whole day and do nothing but read documentation :P *(and drink beer, if you can get away with it)
14:40
@TomOConnor the sad truth is everything is still ftp in the real world ... scp is still only used for internal stuff when you have those 'linux guys' forcing you
also if you REALLY wanna learn how this stuff work compile from source @sadmicrowave
@Zypher If we teach the newbies to use scp, then we can start a new generation of doing it right.
@Zypher not on a production system. If you want it to work, use packages.
@TomOConnor well ... there are arguments both ways
I had to send Checkpoint some debug logs from our Provider-1 management system, and they use sftp... I was pleasantly suprised.
well once windows gets and scp implentation you'll see it used more
sad truth
Checkpoint == security company i'd hope so
@Zypher If you've got a system with a decent package manager, and you're running a reasonably recent distro (ie, 10.04 LTS), then by using packages, you make the life for you, and your followers easier.
14:43
@Zypher Quite, but you'd be suprised...
@Zypher winscp not good enough for you?
server not client
oh yea ... plenty of clients (i personally despise winscp but to each thier own)
winscp is alright, i find :P
14:44
I'm a big fan of sticking Cygwin + OpenSSH on all Windows boxes... it certainly makes things easier ;-)
pscp all the way
@AndySmith read the readme on Cygwin+OpenSSH they specifically say do not run this on a production server
also i'm not a fan of cygwin but then again i'm against putting just about anything extra on a box
run light n fast
A while ago we phased out ftp for ftps for most everything. Converting the old COBOL guys took some time, but in the end it was no big deal
I had to fight with one of our customers (a BANK) for about 2 months when they wanted me to send them stuff via ftp and required 0 encryption
14:46
wtg
@Zypher True, but I've never had any problems personally. I don't run many Windows machines in a professional capacity, so it's not normally a problem.
@AndySmith ah yes that makes all the difference
@Zypher It's depressing how many companies that should eat, sleep and breath security don't do it at all.
@AndySmith Amen to that. Especially when there are likely regulatory reasons to do it.
the sad part is THEY required us to be PCI certified and asked us to do stuff that would invalidate our cert constantly
14:48
@packs Definitely :-/
@Zypher Oh yeah, been there... as usual it's all about getting the right letters and phrases on the contract...
ja .. just happy I don't have to deal w/ that BS anymore
My brain is melting.. designing a IP VPN network with 80 offices, 3 vlans at each office
uhg
@pauska You need 80 awesome lengths of CAT5
14:50
why not do something like MPLS or some other private or semi private pipe solution
Zypher: This is MPLS
(via our ISP)
I still have to lay out the network plan
oh
MPLS != VPN ;)
(designed it for you)
Haha
thanks though, I'm aware of the technoligy.. we have 3 separate IP VPN's, all at different providers.. we're moving over to one shared VPN
also designing networks at that level is fun IMHO
The real problem is cross-country MPLS
14:55
Haha
wich is non-existant in Europe due to EU regulations
Magic accounts for a lot of stuff...
I am never purchasing another piece of @#%@! netgear as long as I have blood coursing through my veins
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and even when I'm dead, I'll haunt anyone I've ever worked with if they purchase netgear equipment.
@pauska uhg
Just thought I'd throw that out there.
14:59
hmm ... ok i REALLY need to get motivated to finish off this pbx today
@GregD I think Friday was the last time we had a NetGear rant. It was time
@packs Well does it make any sense that an FVS318 10/100 firewall would ONLY have a god damn 10 WAN interface?
I keep pronouncing MPLS in my head, as Meeples.
Oh no. Not netgear again.
Where's Robert?
half duplex no less
15:04
@TomOConnor Just don't put it down on some grass or you may lose it for the rest of the design.
@TomOConnor Alright, I'm done with the Netgear rant. As you were..
@GregD I'm always ready to destroy netgears.
15:18
WTF ... it's 10:17 AM Easter ... and ... i'm told the "cloud" provider isn't in yet ... grrr
Thanks RSA. Every fricken enVision SP gets pulled because of stupid things like hardcoded passwords. Why would a security company assume that the clients won't change the default password?
@Zypher lol; To the Cloud!
Yay cloud.
@jscott You feeling ready for your upcoming 'interview' yet?
15:37
Yay cloud!
@packs Spoke with the State Ed attorney, by phone, twice now. The case has been rescheduled, so he may make the trip upstate, from Albany, to visit us in person.
@jscott Formal depositions?
He didn't make that clear on the phone. I suspect that is likely, I can't image wanting to drive 3.5+ hours just to come hang out for the New Year.
Really?
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A: SQL Server Express

MUSTAFA ZÄ°HNÄ° SERDARI HAVE USED DIFFERENT INSTANCE NAME ON SQL SERVER. SO I WANT TO DELETE SOME INSTANCE NAMES. HOW CAN I DELETE INSTANCE NAME?

Shortly after I started here, my boss had to do one of those. He came back about 4 hours later looking like he got run over, and them mauled, by a big cat. I certainly hope yours goes better
15:47
fingers-crossed
@jscott Ugh, one of my coworkers just went through a deposition last week
Is there a background to the story here?
Deposition for what?...
Thanks to who ever deleted that "answer"
@BartSilverstrim LSS: I work in K12, a substitute teacher allegedly displayed inappropriate material to a class of 4th graders. Sheriff took the computer following the complain. Computer was returned many months later. My director asked me to "look at" the machine and see what was there. Cross-ref'd access logs from the date/time of incident with files on the [image of] machine. There were some "files of interest". Shared this with director.
For being such a good employee, I was rewarded with a subpoena for a state Ed hearing.
@jscott - oh geez.
Files of interest and the cops didn't take the evidence off the system?
I guess I'm missing how you got the evidence back without them having their case.
15:53
@pauska: That is an interesting problem .. how are you going to connect all of them?
Ah, but you're working from an image.
We [meaning "i" and director] never heard anything back from the sheriff's office. We pulled an image (PXe booting, no OS modification).
@pauska: Maybe a few MPLS segments and then connect those segments together through a few redundant connections?
I'm not sure what, if anything, the sheriff collected.
In that case, I'm missing why you'd be asked to look at it after the computer was returned, you're working form an image, and now you're involved in a subpoena when they have the evidence.
15:55
The local sheriff's office took a looksie first? Nice. usually, even local law enforcement brings us their work.
Without knowing what the files of interest were I'd say I'd have a strong temptation to forget about it if it was reported to authorities. Depends on the file content.
Otherwise...well, you end up getting subpoenaed :-)
@BartSilverstrim SHeriff had the computer for many months. Director of IT asked me to look at it because the school's principal was getting anxious for information.
Oh, I totally stepped right into this pile myself.
Are you getting a school lawyer to go with you?
Dude I'd totally make sure there was a lawyer.
@BartSilverstrim Agreed. And since this is without question completely work related, make them provide.
Your board should have one on retainer available. And they should make arrangements for you to be considered the client so he or she is looking out for your interests.
There is NO TELLING how you might step into something worse.
A simple misspeaking and suddenly your evidence or your policies are called into question.
15:59
@BartSilverstrim @packs, Totally agreed.
Even if you're innocent with "nothing to hide" what you say can be used against you as evidence. Don't say a damn thing without a lawyer to cover you.
This all was a major lesson for me.
My boss came from your area, @jscott. After hearing his stories of what they had to go through for forensics work, I am very glad to be in Ohio. Hope it didn't involve any underage material.
I would be hesitant to even talk on the phone. He was probably taking notes, if not recording.
@packs No material like that at all.
16:00
Good. NY state law is..well..scary when it comes to that kind of analysis.
@jscott - well, it was obviously of interest to someone...so just be more than a little paranoid of what you say.
It would be tough for me to say what is "inappropriate" or not, that is not my area of expertise, but I can't imagine the material would be considered "illegal". Perhaps 18/21 age restricted,.... idk.
Law enforcement is not your friend. It's not their job to be nice.
@BartSilverstrim You sound like a redditor
Their job is to gather evidence. Judges and lawyers hash out interpretation. It's easy for you to get into trouble.
16:02
@BartSilverstrim That depends a lot on your respective roles. I get on great with law enforcement, but we also work very closely together.
I'm not saying they're bad people.
Law enforcement.
I'm just saying that it's not their job to be nice to you, even if they're speaking informally and friendly in conversation. They're just doing their job.
@KyleBrandt Thanks. I didn't even get a chance to flag it
And sure they can "let you off the hook" sometimes and have some leeway but overall, if you say something that can be useful in a case they're building, you might inadvertently say something innocent that comes back to bite you in the ass. I have no beef with law enforcement. They're just trying to make their paycheck like anyone else :-)
@BartSilverstrim Well, their job is to find people doing bad things (and sometimes what is worth pursuing), it is for the lawyers to decide. They're usually pretty lenient with people who genuinely try to help.
I'm not much of a redditor, @gregd :-) I read some of the stories but no more than a lot of other websites. I'm about as passive as the average information consumer in America. I also work k12, so it's easy to see how he can get into trouble with some of the stuff that goes on.
16:05
@BartSilverstrim Oh, sure, I can get on with that.
Their job is hard enough most of the time, and anything that can help with a case is fair game.
@packs: Hear Ye! Hear Ye! Tolerance Level for crap is going down .. dramatically. Sorry if I have been slow on the uptake
The real trick, of course, is to answer questions truthfully. And only the question.
So I'm not trying to rant on "f@#$ da police" type things. They're doing their jobs. I just know that what you do or say can be taken out of context and may come back to bite you...after all, jScott was doing his job and now he's giving a deposition. Didn't see that comin' did you? :-)
@BartSilverstrim I consider it a badge of honor...but I digress.
It is particularly hard for people like us to be brief when answering questions. Especially when we are trying to explain technical concepts to non-technical people.
16:06
Have you seen the footage of the Seattle cop who shot and killed a partially deaf homeless man within 30 seconds of him exiting his car?
There is an excellent video on youtube about "why I will never talk to police."
@packs And your lawyer will probably advise you to not be wordy and only answer yes/no
@GregD Quite right. The shortest answer that applies to the question is always best.
and if your answers contradict what the lawyers are asking you in your deposition because they've worded it wrong in a technical context, they'll scream and yell at you
fun stuff
16:09
I think I said this when jscott first brought the issue up, but I am very happy that all of my cases were settled before I would have gotten called up.
Court appearances of any kind are 'Not Fun' (tm)
Someone said "Please put the answer in the answer section" ... AS AN ANSWER
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@GregD I'm within earshot of a lawyer and I get to hear him coaching people for various thing. The first thing is always "Answer their question, truthfully" and the second thing immediately after that is "Don't say anything more than is absolutely necessary to answer the question" - If "yes/no" is enough, don't say anything else.
@ChrisS That's good advice. If you ever think your answer will start with a 'Well....' just shut up and pick yes or no.
@packs The only exception is when the question doesn't make sense, like "Have you stopped trying to kill your mom yet", when you have never attempted the murder of your mother... You should state 'the question doesn't make sense', or 'I can not answer', or 'I don't understand'; don't elaborate. The English language does not have a single word for 'the question has an incorrect premise', though "mu" has been proposed by some of my friends.
16:21
@ChrisS: The answer is, chocolate chip cookies with fudgy frosting.
gah f u verizon
what's your number?; I give it; what's the company name? Stack Overflow Internet Services; No that's wrong, that's not what I have
erm ... wha?
I'm looking at the bill
no you're wrong
oh fun dumped back into the queue
@ChrisS True, and to use another lawyer quote, 'It Depends'
Are you held in contempt if you bang your head on the podium?
I think it depends on the manner by which you address the podium during the banging.
So as long as you don't mumble something like, "The stupid, it burns..." you should be okay?
16:35
bang your head 3 times for yes, 2 times for no
Speaking like the Comic Book Guy from Simpsons might get you in some trouble if the judge knows what you're doing.
So ... mod_rewrite questions.
I suppose we could use mod_rewrite to send them to another site? :)
@packs no no ... a 302(1?) redirect would work much better
Jeff A, Zypher, and myself were talking about this on Friday. Zypher said how we need one awesome answer to link all of these too. This is really not unlike the subnetting questions
So here is what I am thinking, I will go make the question ... anyone want to have the first stab at answering it?
We can do this in a different format if someone has a better idea
But it is time the MOD_REWRITE to END ALL MOD_REWRITE
16:44
@Zypher I am a big fan of 418, personally.
@KyleBrandt Link all of the mod_rewrite answers to? A sort of "everything you ever wanted to know about mod_rewrite but were too afraid to get answers for" type question/answer set?
OMG UNICORNS that is what I gave the title!
Writing it now and I made the title: "Everything I wanted to know about Mod_Rewrite rules but was afraid to ask?"
Errr.. needs to be You
My one fear is we'll get mod_rewrite questions of this sort, "So I read the SF Tome of mod_rewrite, blah blah blah did I get it right?"
They get closed
Unless maybe they link to it and really tried but it still isn't working
"Linked to" is the wrong wording ... "Closed as dupe" is the right wording
16:53
Heh.
And if that doesn't work, we need a new StackExchange site! "Mod_rewrite gurus" or something.
It might be too narrowly focused, but golly would it get traffic.
Nah there is plenty of stuff out there ..
This is kind of duplication of work, but it is for our sites benifit
Give a close path
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Q: Everything You Ever Wanted to Know about Mod_Rewrite Rules but Were Afraid to Ask?

Kyle BrandtHow can I become an expert at writing mod_rewrite rules? What is the fundamental format and structure of mod_rewrite rules? What form/flavor of regular expressions do I need to have a solid grasp of? What are the most common mistakes/pitfalls when writing rewrite rules? What is a good method fo...

This might be viewed as rep whoring.... but I want to make sure who ever gets the awesome answers gets their votes credit
And I am the one who has to suffer his question being attached to my account :-P
I'm going to talk to Jeff about mods asking questions as the community user going forward
....I'll get to work.
Didn't want to put this off though
17:13
@sysadmin1138: Might want to public in chunks to get the first poster advantage ;-)
That is Rep Whoring Pro Tip #7
I'm covering the topic "mod_rewrite syntax order" since it matters. Other people can do more complex topics. Like RewriteCond syntax.
Even the apache docs think that mod_rewrite is for webmasters
http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/misc/rewriteguide.html
Unfortunately for us, 'webmasters' in the StackExchange sense means people who don't get httpd.conf syntax.
Ya, but from whole SE perspective all that does is move the problem
I know :(
17:19
Now we just close it as a dupe on this unless we think the rewrite problem is really hard
There isn't a managers stackexchange? I thought shuffling the problem was their job.
Er, "delegation of tasks."
@sysadmin1138: Ya we can just see what happens, maybe wrap it up all in one answer at the end or maybe someone will just do that
Yep. Maybe comwiki something together once we have the sections written.
Someone in another chat room has just mentioned this. It seems like the ultimate in why netgear hardware is awful.
http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Sam_Vimes_Theory_of_Economic_Injustice
mod_rewrite is for sysadmins.
i always forget what absolute crap asterisk documentation is
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