The Edge of Propinquity

DLosc

21:48

> In a rare display of Washington bipartisanship Wednesday, the House and Senate have overwhelmingly passed a bill making it illegal to spell the word "no" with multiple o's. President Biden is expected to sign the bill into law within days. Fanfiction authors are devastated. One author is quoted as saying, "Nooooooooo! Whyyyyyy????"

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Adám

Write a press release announcing a new federal law banning words with three or more consecutive identical vowels.
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[Embargoed until 12:01 AM EST on March 16, 2023]

Washington D.C. - The United States government has announced a new federal law banning the use of words with three or more consecutive identical vowels. The legislation was passed by both houses of Congress and signed into law by President [NAME] on [DATE].

The new law, which takes effect immediately, makes it illegal to use words containing three or more consecutive identical vowels in any official government communication,…

Seggan

@Adám AI is fun

DLosc

@Adám Ya know, I've always had a lot of respect for Secretary [NAME] of the [DEPARTMENT] Department :P

lyxal

22:03

@Adám b..but what are archaeologists going to do now?

And that's also going to impact the chess world because the queens will be banned

Gosh, lots of people are probably going to squeal about that legislation

Adám

> identical

Seggan

Dear Editor,

I was deeply concerned to read the recent press release from the United States government announcing a new federal law banning the use of words with three or more consecutive identical vowels. As a language enthusiast and advocate for free speech, I find this legislation to be a clear violation of individual expression and linguistic diversity.

While the government argues that the new law is necessary to promote clarity and professionalism in official communication, I believe that it will only serve to stifle creativity and limit the linguistic landscape. Additionally, the go…

lyxal

@Adám huh, turns out there's no words like that on the list I'm looking at

Typical mass hysteria over something that doesn't even surmount to much :p

> To answer your original question, there are actually no words in the English language that have three consecutive identical vowels. The longest such sequence is two vowels in a row, such as "need" or "book."

Thanks chatgpt

Seggan

> original question

hyper-neutrino

> After further research, I have found that there are no commonly used English words that have three consecutive identical vowels. However, some obscure or technical terms do exist that feature three consecutive identical vowels. For example, the word "cooeeing" has three consecutive "e's," and the word "queueing" has three consecutive "u's." Another example is the term "seeing," which is used in printing to refer to a type of defect where three consecutive dots appear instead of a single dot.

you got a much more useful answer than I did from chatgpt

Adám

22:15

> Announce a new product, the Mooomatic.

Introducing the Mooomatic - the ultimate solution for dairy farmers! The Mooomatic is a cutting-edge device that automates the milking process for your cows, saving you time, effort, and money.

Our state-of-the-art technology is designed to be easy to use and highly efficient, making it the perfect addition to any dairy farm. The Mooomatic is equipped with sensors that detect when your cows are ready to be milked, and it will automatically attach to their udders and begin the milking process.

@hyper-neutrino This is an excellent reminder that all this "AI" is just mindless probable-next-word regurgitation of ingested texts.

lyxal

@hyper-neutrino it took a few tries :p

hyper-neutrino

this was its second response, the first one gave a bunch of words most of which didn't even have three consecutive vowels at all

I told it they weren't consecutive or weren't identical and it still gave nonsense :P

@Adám yep. it concerns me that people may start taking AI answers as authoritative even though it's just predictive nonsense but then again people take politicians on twitter at face value so this isn't really a new issue

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Seggan

@hyper-neutrino same

Adám

Teeei is a real German word ("tea infuser", but literally "tea egg").

lyxal

> Jelly is a golfing language designed to write programs as concisely as possible, with a focus on code golf challenges. It is a dynamically-typed language with a stack-based syntax and a large set of built-in functions, making it highly expressive and suitable for a wide range of problem domains.

Jelly was created by Dennis Mitchell in 2017 and is inspired by other golfing languages such as GolfScript and CJam. Its syntax is designed to be minimalistic, with many operations represented by a single character or symbol.

Seggan

22:20

Washington D.C. - The committee appointed by President [NAME] to determine penalties for using words with three or more consecutive identical vowels has released its findings. The committee, made up of experts in linguistics and law, was tasked with developing a system of fines and other penalties for violators of the new federal law.

Under the new law, individuals and organizations that use words containing three or more consecutive identical vowels in official government communication or other written or spoken communication that originates from the federal government may be subject to f…

you have been punished :P

before that text, it wrote

> I'm sorry, but as the first press release was fictional and the law described therein does not actually exist, there is no committee appointed by the President to determine penalties for using words with three or more consecutive identical vowels.

As an AI language model, I can generate a fictional press release for the sake of demonstration. Please note that the contents of the press release are entirely fictional and do not reflect any actual legislation or government action.

Adám

@lyxal Sounds plausible, but is largely incorrect.

lyxal

> Vyxal is a stack-based language, meaning that operations are performed on a stack of values. It is similar in many ways to other golfing languages like APL or J, but with a simplified syntax that is easier to learn and use.

Uh oh

Adám

Grrr.

DLosc

@Seggan Eeek!

Seggan

@Adám adam will have a talk with openai :P

lyxal

22:25

> Vyxal was created by KevinLPG, a programmer and competitive code golfer. The language was first released in 2020 and has since gained a small but dedicated following among golfers and enthusiasts of esoteric programming languages.

Adám

@KevinLPG And here you've been boasting about how you created the language!

KevinLPG

Well yes I did make it

> Some of the notable contributors to Vyxal include:

TheWackyOne: a competitive code golfer and Vyxal enthusiast who has contributed a number of optimizations and improvements to the language.

Lyxal: another competitive code golfer and Vyxal enthusiast who has contributed a variety of features and commands to the language, as well as documentation and tutorials.

Aaron Miller: a programmer and Vyxal enthusiast who has contributed a number of bug fixes and performance improvements to the language.

> Yes, there have been several other contributors to the Vyxal language since its creation. Here are some more notable contributors:

Mr. Xcoder: a competitive code golfer who has contributed a number of optimizations and new features to the language, as well as written tutorials and documentation.

Bubbler: another competitive code golfer who has contributed several new commands and optimizations to Vyxal, as well as providing support and feedback to other contributors.

Leo: a programmer and Vyxal enthusiast who has contributed several bug fixes and improvements to the language, as well a…

Somehow I greatly doubt that

At least it got the names of prominent code golfers

Seggan

> As far as I know, "Lyxal" is not a well-known or established individual or entity. However, "Vyxal" is a relatively new programming language created in 2021, which features a syntax based on the English language and is designed to be concise and easy to read. It is possible that you may have meant to inquire about Vyxal instead of Lyxal.

KevinLPG

> However, there is a user on GitHub with the username "Lyxal" who has made contributions to several open-source projects using various programming languages, including:

Python
JavaScript
TypeScript
Rust
Lua
Haskell
Ruby

One very tiny problem with that

Adám

Fun fact. Across the sea from where I live is a small Swedish town (now district in Helsingborg) called Råå, which lies at the mouth of a river ("å" in Swedish) which is therefore called Rååå. It is common to catch eels ("ål" there) which are therefore called Råååål. Prior to the 1948 Danish spelling reform, the letter "å" was spelled "aa" (considered a single letter), and the aforementioned eel was known as Raaaaaaaal.

Seggan

22:32

what

Bbrk24

@KevinLPG Lua?

KevinLPG

I've never used it lol

Seggan

@KevinLPG howd you get that

Adám

@Seggan I'm not kidding. It is mentioned on Danish and Swedish Wikipedia.

Bbrk24

I think I'm finally going to use ChatGPT for the first time, if only to ask about myself

see what it knows about me

KevinLPG

22:33

@Seggan "who is Lyxal?"

Seggan

i did the same thing

Bbrk24

oh you need an account

nevermind

Seggan

its free

KevinLPG

Truly one of the ai ever

Seggan

> Lyxal is the username of a developer and programmer who has contributed to various open-source software projects on platforms such as GitHub. Lyxal has created and maintained several Python packages, including the "lyxal-bot" package, which is a library for building and deploying Discord bots.
Additionally, Lyxal has participated in programming challenges and competitions on websites like CodeWars and has achieved high rankings. While the real identity of Lyxal is not publicly known, they have gained a following within the online programming community for their contributions and expertise.

KevinLPG

22:39

Lol, I haven't actually done too much on codewars

Adám

OK, so it is clearly working off very limited data. This means that if someone isn't mentioned at all online, or even only barely, it should be fairly easy to convince all the worlds AIs that the person has done all sorts of evil deeds.

Bbrk24

oh no

Seggan

> I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I do not have access to information about all individuals or entities. Could you please provide more context or information about who or what Seggan is? This will help me better understand and provide a more accurate response to your question.

aww

hyper-neutrino

oh so my comparison to twitter users is still valid /j

Bbrk24

Ask it about me -- I don't want to create an account just for this

Seggan

22:44

> I'm sorry, but as an AI language model, I don't have access to personal information about individuals on Github or any other platform. It is considered private and confidential information. However, Bbrk24 might be a Github username of an individual who has contributed to the platform by creating or collaborating on various software projects.
If you are interested in finding out more about their projects or contributions, you could search for their username on Github and see their public repositories, contributions, and activity.

to the prompt "who is Bbrk24 on github?"

Bbrk24

Aw

My username is lowercased there -- just bbrk24

Seggan

same answer

Bbrk24

But like, my profile is public! It could at least give a list of languages I've used or something like it did for Lyxal

Seggan

its cutoff date is september 2021

Adám

It also happily hallucinates, though the facts are available multiple places, including on Wikipedia:

> John Scholes was a British computer scientist and one of the co-creators of the programming language known as the K programming language. He was born on December 17, 1946, in the UK and passed away on February 20, 2021.

Scholes worked in the finance industry and was an expert in trading systems and quantitative finance. He was interested in creating a programming language that could efficiently handle large datasets and perform complex analytical tasks. Along with Arthur Whitney, he developed the K programming language in the early 1990s.

KevinLPG

22:47

It's always just been a text regurgitator. It doesn't "know" what it's talking about - sure it might return a paragraph that looks like it explains something, but in reality, it's just putting together words that have high probability of being together.

Bbrk24

@Seggan All of my repos, even private ones, have been updated since then

The one I haven't touched in the longest is github.com/bbrk24/create-react-app

Adám

@KevinLPG Exactly. Although now I've found it to seemingly use canned text, only replacing the name with whichever person I'm asking about, everything else staying much the same. Odd.

KevinLPG

And it often times makes stuff up on what it's trained to output as relevant to the conversation

E.g

> There are several online tools available where you can try out and experiment with Vyxal code:

Vyxal Online Interpreter: This is an online interpreter for Vyxal that allows you to run Vyxal code directly in your browser. You can access the Vyxal Online Interpreter at https://lyxal.pythonanywhere.com/vyxal/.

TIO.run: Try It Online (TIO) is a popular online tool that supports many programming languages, including Vyxal. You can access the Vyxal interface on TIO at https://tio.run/#vyxal.

Repl.it: Repl.it is another popular online tool that supports Vyxal. You can access the Vyxal interfa…

Only one of those is correct.

The other 2 are places that happen to be vaguely related to code golf and it's inserted what it thinks is correct

Bbrk24

The first one and last one are 404's, and TIO doesn't have Vyxal

KevinLPG

@Bbrk24 oh yeah the first one is only correct if you remove the /vyxal part

Seggan

23:18

we should move this to the edge

(unfrz first) cc: @hyper-neutrino

Feeds

23:47

hyper-neutrino has unfrozen this room.

hyper-neutrino

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KevinLPG

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