Discussion on question by Sethu Srivatsa Koduru: What are Sat Chit and Ananda attributes of Nirguna Brahman?

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12:09

I appolozize a lot for the late reply sir but the thing is you are like just saying for Eg this is true because its mentioned here but not HOW AND WHY !
<Because to experience anything, you need a consciousness that seems to be apart from the matter> THen when Atman doesnt even have a body how can it have "COnsiounesss" What will be its existance (Sat) ? THis is all my question which is coming again and again and I feel its not addressed sir

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SHall I frame another question or edit this? Again how can Brahman be all prevading ? I know Upanishads say Sarva Khandalam Bramha but I am thinking How and Why. When something is supposed to be existant consiouness and bliss how can it prevade entire universe??

Because non living things dont have atman and only who have atman can have consciousness? For this again you would say rocks have consiouness but how ? Just because Upanishads say it will become true? Can rocks feel touch taste smell ? No right ? Then how can we say so ???

And again you write "Universal Consciousness is not to be confused with the individual’s ego-consciousness. It is Pure Awareness."
What is this now?
I read your answer and this whole convo atlest 10 times believe me but I really didnt get my answers either I am an unfortunate man or you are speaking high level

I already asked similar questions many times and I am thankful you answered many of them. I am reading answers again and again but nothing is getting into my brain :(

GIRIBLR

13:11

If you say consciousness dies with the body, it is a materialistic or scientific view and no one can directly counter it. no one can prove this or no one can prove otherwise also.

When one says that a “lifeless thing does not have consciousness”, ‘consciousness’ refers to one’s cognitive capacity at an individual level – in other words, it is the personal consciousness. When one says that “All of this is Consciousness”, the word refers to the “Universal Consciousness” which does not belong to any individual.

The equivalent words in the Advaita lingo are ‘chidabhAsa’ for the personal consciousness and Brahman for the Universal Consciousness.

Sethu Srivatsa Koduru

13:42

What is that universal consiouness? How is it different from individual consiouness ? What exactly is it?

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GIRIBLR

The equivalent words in the Advaita lingo are ‘chidabhAsa’ for the personal consciousness and Brahman for the Universal Consciousness.

the simple answer is that there is only Consciousness – every seeming thing is only name and form of Consciousness; even a stone. But in order for something to manifest consciousness (be aware of things), it has to be able to ‘reflect’ Consciousness. This concept of reflecting Consciousness is called chidAbhAsa and it is key to understanding your problem.

you seem to be confusing Consciousness (the non-dual reality) with consciousness (being aware of self and an external world).

A corpse does not have consciousness. The all pervading self is present throughout. There is nowhere where the WHOLE is not. It pervades a corpse also. In the case of a living being, there exists a mind medium which is a subtle instrument that has the ability to become sentient in the presence of this self.

In the case of a corpse, the mind medium is no longer present. The subtle body leaves the gross body after death. In the absence of the mind, the all pervading self is not reflected in the mind (do not take is as literal reflection). Hence, the corpse cannot be conscious.

GIRIBLR

14:12

First we have to understand that consciousness and existence are same.

Sethu Srivatsa Koduru

How stone sir how? Stone cant talk eat sit cry laugh. Cant feel anything,cant understand cant be aware of its surroundings cant move..then just how sir?
What is reflecting consiouness?
Ok now what is all prevading self and how can it prevade everything? What is that when Isa up says Lord is all prevading? Is it consiouness or sat or what? If its sat then what exactly is that existance? Chit and Achit both?
If corpse which has no mind cant be consoiouess then same for stone etc

GIRIBLR

The corpse is consciousness. How do we understand it? We need to shift our focus to the Existence aspect of the self. All that exists is the Self. Or BRahman. or Universal consciousness

Sethu Srivatsa Koduru

@GIRIBLR Stone exists. But it aint consiouness right

GIRIBLR

Read the following

advaita-vision.org/q-347-stone-consciousness

Sethu Srivatsa Koduru

Okay sir will get back to you in few minutes

GIRIBLR

14:16

A stone does not have consciousness. Yet all of this is consciousness.

How do you reconcile this statement? That's what you are asking.

But these consciousness are different.

If there is something other than Brahman, then it immediately becomes non-dual

Sethu Srivatsa Koduru

14:31

Yeah Brahman alone exists but what exactly is it not able to understand sir. What is that when Isa up says Lord is all prevading? Is it consiouness or sat or what? If its sat then what exactly is that existance? Chit and Achit both?
Article you shared was brilliant but still above my head. Not able to get it

1 hour later…

GIRIBLR

15:33

You can not separate sat chit and ananda. They are all svarupa lakshana of Brahman. Brahman is all pervading

You seem to be confusing being conscious with consciousness.

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