The Ink Spot

Zach Saucier

00:40

that's why you don't use antivirus besides what's built into the OS :P

It's much easier to prevent going to pages that might be a threat than it is to prevent a threat on your PC

Zach Saucier

06:24

@Luciano Some things you can look out for when editing: graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/posts/74915/revisions

Let me know if you have questions

Luciano

07:57

good one! I'll be more careful with the edits

PieBie

Hello @Room, welcome to GDSE and thanks for your question.

Luciano

o/

Vincent

08:46

hey there @Room

Vincent

10:39

@Cai, Yes I did. Corrected

Cai

Thought so :)

Vincent

need more caffeine

Darth_Vader

13:22

@cai please mark this as the accepted answer: meta.graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/questions/2926/…

Ryan

Attention: @CAI thanks for writing the style identification guidelines and @ZachSaucier for mentioning them in another meta post. We've now updated the close reason for Font / Critique to include Style ID

Darth_Vader

@Ryan yippie!!

and good morning you all..

@ZachSaucier how is the wether your way? we are getting 90-100 degree temps here

Vincent

Ah you, too, @Darth? The heat has set in here as well

Darth_Vader

and it's humid.

thinking about asking on home improvement how I can take the water from my dehumidifier and return it to a tank so I could build a greenhouse and then grow vegetables

as the dehumidifier has a pump and a connection for the hose

Vincent

homegrown veggies == nom!

Darth_Vader

13:31

saving on water bill, WIN

Vincent

heh, water here is so dirt cheap (pun intended) that it would take ages to break that even

Cai

13:54

@Darth_Vader Done

The heat is really getting to me today

Shouldn't the "critique requests" in the close reason be singular, not plural?

Also the style-id should link to this answer.

Ryan

14:33

The style-id does link to that answer :\

oh wait, why do we have 2 sets of guidelines both by you

I blame @ZachSaucier :P he provided the link

ill edit it later or another mod can. Its kinda a pain to fix so don't want to do it right now

There's no actual edit button we have to start from scratch to make any changes

Zach Saucier

@Darth_Vader I'm in Seattle, so it's pretty great, haha. High of 80 or so most days, though still humid

Darth_Vader

@ZachSaucier nice

err.. my day so far, wp home.php shows all one author but when actually clicked and go into single.php it shows the correct author.. wonderful start to the day.

Ryan

14:56

strange questions this morning

I'm not a web guy but this answer seems wrong to me graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/a/74967/2611

PieBie

@Ryan because it is wrong

Ryan

@PieBie seems so. I'm no web guy but your answer seems at least a little better to me

I'm investigating and then might leave my own answer. Or maybe Ill ask your permission to edit yours depending on what I find

I'm pretty sure your answer says what I'm thinking

Vincent

15:18

@Ryan new reason added

johnp

Why is it wrong?

not questioning you, just trying to learn lol

Won't it render bold anyway as Cai mentioned or are there compatibility problems with particular browsers?

Ryan

I think "faux bold" in @PieBie answer is the key

rgthree's answer seems to ignore that

PieBie

@johnp (1) his reason for 'reducing file size' is pretty silly, he'll save a few bytes of a website that hundreds of MB, (2) 'the way the browser does it' is rendering faux bolds, so that's not the right argument

johnp

faux bold makes me sad ;( but perhaps it's a necessary evil on the web?

Ryan

The top one imports the italic style of Raleway, the bottom one doesn't. As a result the bottom is just a "faux italic" ignoring that a properly designed font has differences between a regular a bold a super bold an italic etc

johnp

15:30

hehe yeah the file size thing seemed silly, I just thought there was a way of avoiding the faux bold

Ryan

@PieBie if you're okay with it could we add the above image I made to your answer, might help explain to people that faux and real are not the same

PieBie

his code will render faux bolds, mine will only render faux bolds if the Font cannot be loaded (and at that point, your design is screwed anyway)

Ryan

yep

PieBie

@Ryan go right ahead

johnp

ah ok

thanks

Ryan

15:34

if you dont like my wording feel free to change it more

PieBie

@Ryan looking great, thanks

johnp

this song reminds me of those mindless design projects lol

"I'll do my scientific best...to command your fate" >:)

Crystal Castles - Magic Spells

►

Vincent

16:12

designshack.net/articles/graphics/…

Gradients are back...!?

johnp

lol I kinda noticed that too @Vincent Our lecturers hurt us for thinking about gradients

though I think they can be nice in certain circumstances

akin to dimming the lights on a date for atmospheric effect...They can look well or go horribly wrong

Vincent

lol @ that parallel

Cai

16:27

@Ryan @PieBie that answer isn't wrong at all it's completely correct and how it should be done. It's exactly how Google Fonts loads it's fonts

check a google fonts stylesheet

Ryan

How does "Raleway" alone get the proper italics?

@Cai

Cai

Just look at how Google declares it: fonts.googleapis.com/…

Ryan

so basically one font-family but different source for each

Cai

yes exactly that

my answer here explains more: graphicdesign.stackexchange.com/a/73655/52050

think about how you would declare a system font. You never use "Helvetica Bold, Arial Bold"... you use "Helvetica, Arial; font-weight: bold;"

Ryan

those fonts dont have variations between them though

Cai

16:35

What do you mean dont have variations? Helvetica and Arial both have bold and italics

Ryan

Arial italic and Arial faux italic are identical

Cai

They may look the same but not really. Arial Italic is an actual font, "Arial faux italic" isn't, it's just how a browser fakes the italic and will be different in different browsers, there is no single "Arial faux italic".

Ryan

right but some fonts do have differences. Raleway for example has well thought out differences

RGThree's top portion wouldn't get those at all

The bottom portion and your answer i think would get that but if the argument is to conserve memory - those are both longer

html {
font-family: Raleway;
}
.bold {
font-weight: 700;
}
.italic {
font-style: italic;
}

that code would be a fake italic unless you include the source for the italic somewhere

I don't see how having to include:

@font-face {
font-family: 'Raleway';
font-style: italic;
font-weight: 500;
src: url(https://...Raleway-MediumItalic.woff2) format('woff2');
}

is less memory than <link href='https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Raleway:500,500italic' rel='stylesheet' type='text/css'>

Cai

Thats not what the answer says

That font-face declaration is exactly what is in that link

fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Raleway:500,500italic

Ryan

....and how is that less memory and cleaner than "<link href='https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Raleway:500,500italic' rel='stylesheet' type='text/css'>"

Cai

16:46

Thats not what the answer says

@ZachSaucier back me up here

lol

Ryan

In bold text

"It reduces CSS complexity an, ultimately, file size"

Cai

thats refering to only needing to declare the weight and not the family each time in the css (i.e. the first part of code you just posted). nothing to do with the @font-face declaration

That whole first section is assuming you're using google fonts or declaring @font-face using one family-name and only talks about code in your css, not the @font-face declaration itself.

GiantCowFilms

@Vincent could you join us in the renderfarm chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/1240/the-ink-spot

someone mentioned you

don't tell them I told you :P

Ryan

@Cai but the top part wouldn't produce raleway bold

it would produce a fake version of it

Cai

no, It will if your using google fonts or declaring your @font-face using a single family name

Ryan

16:52

no it wont!

Cai

of course it will

Ryan

try it, that's what the screenshot in Piebie's is

Cai

just look at fonts.googleapis.com/…

it uses one family name

Ryan

I'm getting frustrated trying to explain this and/or understand this

If I add this to my header

just that. nothing else.

then if I do italic raleway it will not be italic raleway

Cai

of course it wont

because your not loading the italic font

Ryan

16:55

so what in the world are you talking about

Cai

if you load <link href='https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Raleway:500,500italic' rel='stylesheet' type='text/css'> then it will be italic

Ryan

yes correct

Cai

now I'm confused

lol

Ryan

if you can do the above then why not do that

why do all of this @font-face stuff

it sure isn't reducing the code as rgthree says

Cai

thats what that link is

look at the file

im not sure what your saying

the reducing code comment is nothing to do with the @font-face declaration or the linked file its all about using font-family/font-weight in your stylesheet

Ryan

17:01

I don't understand and so far you haven't explained. You just keep linking the same file over and over frustrating me more

I should've never tried to get involved in a web question. I'll go back to my photoshop safety zone :)

Cai

smashingmagazine.com/2012/07/…

that explains it better than I could

anyway the point is that answer is only explaining exactly how Google fonts and every other web-font provider does things

Ryan

Okay wait I think I know what you're trying to explain

the font-face stuff. I don't add that to my CSS. That's something Google is doing on its end somewhere far far away from me

johnp

haha

they can't hurt you anymore @Ryan

Ryan

I just want to go back to photoshop :'( I should've never tried to understand this question

I think I get it all now. Sorry I'm slow @CAi

Vincent

@GiantCowFilms not at my desk atm and im the middle of buying amd preparing food. Sorry and thanks for the heads up. Ill check 2morrow

GiantCowFilms

17:15

@Vincent its not important

I just thought it would be funny if you suddenly showed up

Cai

@Ryan well yes.. but you can add it instead of using google fonts if you host the font files yourself, but for the purposes of that question yes, assume its all done by Google

and no need to be sorry :)

GiantCowFilms

they just mentioned you because they were looking for moderators with names same as the folks on our chat

one guy used to go around as vincent (now he is called A Radish)

Ryan

@GiantCowFilms you linked Inkspot just FYI

GiantCowFilms

@Ryan Whoops

correct link chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/8888/the-renderfarm

IP Address

19:01

Okay im actually a developer and im looking for inspiration for showing images for blog posts in a creative way

johnp

19:19

Lozenge

A lozenge (◊), often referred to as a diamond, is a form of rhombus. The definition of lozenge is not strictly fixed, and it is sometimes used simply as a synonym (from the French losange) for rhombus. Most often, though, lozenge refers to a thin rhombus—a rhombus with acute angles of less than 45°. The lozenge shape is often used in parquetry and as decoration on ceramics, silverware and textiles. It also features in heraldry and playing cards. == Symbolism == The lozenge motif dates as far back as the Neolithic and Paleolithic period in Eastern Europe and represents a sown field and fe...

Just came across this glyph in a typeface and thought I'd share

Ryan

@IPAddress what

JohnB

brb moving to Memphis @Darth rentcafe.com/blog/apartment-search-2/…

Ryan

@JohnB looks like im paying about austin prices

its hard to say though and not that useful since it doesn't say how many rooms and ammenities

a 1 bedroom studio vs a 3 bedroom with washer and dryer for example

JohnB

very true

Ryan

my place has washer/dryer included not just the hookups, a dishwasher, central AC of course in Florida, and relatively new appliances

JohnB

19:28

my rent is very inexpensive but I'm not sure what square footage I have, if I had to guess it is probably very close to $1/square foot. No washer/dryer/dishwasher though

Ryan

I'm paying a fortune because I have a 1 bedroom and live in a fairly wealthy suburb but its where my office is. the only options are either wealthy parts or literally cross the train tracks and live in a very bad part

JohnB

once you hit two bedroom around here the price per square foot jumps quite a bit though. That layout for Memphis is mind blowing to me

Ryan

Really? usually 1 bedroom is way more expensive. I think you might be mistaken on that

1 bedroom has to be more because bathroom, kitchen, ac/heat, etc

JohnB

not in my experience

Ryan

hmm actually you might be right. im not thinking price per square foot, I was thinking price per occupant

splitting a 2bedroom is way less expensive than a 1 bedroom

JohnB

19:33

yeah that definitely makes a difference

I searched for a long time for a two bedroom that was within my means so I could use it as an office/spare room but the price jump was just too much for me to justify

Ryan

I could pay less for a 2 bedroom if I go to a less desireable part of town and/or an older building which is what I might do

JohnB

better for me to just save up money to put towards a downpayment anyway

Ryan

There's usually 2 bedrooms around for like $800/mo while I'm paying $1000/mo for a 1 bedroom. But I live upstairs in a shopping center right now which is a premium I was willing to pay for

IP Address

@Ryan my question was worried wrong nvm

JohnB

I don't blame you, I live on the outskirts of the main drag of my town and it's so nice to be within walking distance of everything

IP Address

19:39

Worded*

Darth_Vader

@JohnB ya almost all property is like that here, well except nashville, nashville is getting more expensive then NY

JohnB

you're closer to Nashville right?

Darth_Vader

IN

here is the article: wsmv.com/story/31971007/…

JohnB

yikes

Darth_Vader

yes indeed. I've debated moving to NC as prices for a 4k sq.ft. rang around 200k

JohnB

19:46

I went to a wedding in north central PA, way out in the middle of nowhere. I think it was close to $150 per night for the Comfort Inn, I was pretty unhappy about that

that would be probably $100 per night near where I live not in the middle of nowhere

johnp

20:05

hehe after reading bout ur rent i thought id google a city centre apartment in dublin for a laugh

rent has spiked here recently though i think this one is a little extreme....700 per week lol.

rent.ie/houses-to-let/… doesn't look great either...

slightly posh area I guess

my old student apartment was 300 per month xD

Darth_Vader

winning site for the day: wookietranslator.com

johnp

22:20

Seapunk Vaporware

pinterest.com/search/pins/…

Ryan

22:31

another tutorial getting uploaded now

(60 second on IG not to website, going to start that one tonight)

johnp

very good

just posted a link above for Seapunk...remember that in the 90s? lol I think it has returned in a weird tumblr fashion

Ryan

eh not a fancy tutorial but keeps things moving along

johnp

may find a palette in there somewhere for "rave"/"electric" though a lot of the colours seem washed out

Ryan

i know that style well but never heard a name for it

good to know

johnp

haha yeah there's a lot of psychedelic stuff there

Ryan

22:40

photoshop does regular themes on Instagram and features people. One of the ones last week was PS_NEON

instagram.com/explore/tags/ps_neon

actually its probably better to just scroll their feed at some of the featured ones: instagram.com/photoshop

this one is pretty dope IMO instagram.com/p/BGKCBx5qei5/?taken-by=photoshop

johnp

cool thanks

impressive...it's funny how far techniques have been pushed since my old magazine collecting days!

I used to buy advanced photoshop and computer arts all the time back in my teens

Ryan

a friend of mine from college was featured in one of those magazines. Can't remember which

I helped him learn Photoshop but he could already draw really well so he's gone pretty far with it. Doesn't do much social media though so I haven't kept up with where he's at now

photoshopcreative.co.uk/user/Laniercreations

johnp

hehe very playful illustrations

instagram.com/p/BBQJpRBKely I like the colours in this

the only thing is that Bronze ( or whatever that colour is ) can look like turd if one isn't careful lol

Ryan

sigh, again giving me issues posting the tutorial

last time it didn't want to go through until like 10pm so I ended up waiting until the next morning

I need to learn to copy/paste whatever description I type into a notepad so if this happens I don't lose the text portion

johnp

22:57

Do you upload via your phone?

yahoo answers says : it happens to me every time i try and upload a video. What I have been doing is turning my phone on airplane mode and than turning it off and its been working.

sounds crappy but worth a try? answer is 3 years old...there are reports of a problem since a recent iphone update

Ryan

yeah you can't post to IG from computer unless you get a phone emulator

I'm on Droid not iPhone

I tried turning Wifi off/on last time. I'll give airplane mode a shot

johnp

I've ended up on the weird part of the internet again :/

Ryan

sigh, just tried again and again it failed. At least this time I copied all the text before trying to submit

johnp

there is another suggestion but i dunno if im allowed post here

it's a link to previous instagram versions

well, i guess it isn't a paid app instagram.en.uptodown.com/android/old

Ryan

23:13

just tried again and its going through finally

Ryan

23:24

up: instagram.com/p/BIGf5V5gWfP/?taken-by=ryanfromgdse

johnp

nice one just watched

can definitely see the benefits of LAB in these videos

Ryan

In my mind LAB > RGB > CMYK

johnp

23:40

I always link colourspaces to output so Lab kind of threw me that way

Ryan

it depends a bit on what you're doing though. Not all features and filters work in LAB so it can be a bit of push and pull between LAB and RGB but I find LAB simpler to understand than RGB after very little effort

johnp

once i knew what colours the A and B worked between, it seemed much more clear to me

Green/Magenta....Yellow/Blue

or is that right lol

I have yet to get back to photo editing

Ryan

yeah that's kinda it though I think of it more Green/Red Yellow/Blue

johnp

ah ok Red

Ryan

er well those should be switched

Red/Green Yellow/Blue if you want them in the same order

wait no im wrong

Green/Yellow are same side and Magenta/Blue are the same side

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