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A: How to answer questions in survey for job application such as "do I have any bad habits" or "have I ever lied"?

Kilisi Should I tell them what they want to hear or what? No, just close the form and keep surfing until you find a company with a more professional outlook towards asking candidates questions. Look for companies enquiring about experience, qualifications and things like that.

Old_Lamplighter
Old_Lamplighter
You beat me to it. It's a "wokeness" survey, and a damn good indication that they won't be the type of company to work for.
Walfrat
Walfrat
I love the combination of "Luck has nothing to do with my success, I never envy others' good luck". Make me feel like i'll be treated as a slave without the right to complain that it's the others that will get the reward :D
Old_Lamplighter
Old_Lamplighter
@Walfrat substitute the word "luck" with "privilege" and that's what they're looking for.
teego1967
teego1967
These are a rather ham-fisted and pathetic attempt at assessing honesty and the ability for self-introspection. If someone is compelled to answer these questions the "correct" answer is 3's and 4's, with some boring examples of bad habits and lying that everyone does regularly. Anyone who's an outlier in either direction will be a "red-flag" in the tiny incurious mind of the HR person adminstering this quiz.
Laconic Droid
Laconic Droid
@Old_Lamplighter - I agree it's an asinine questionnaire, but I don't see any connection to being "woke" (which is related to social awareness, not punctuality).
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Fattie
Fattie
20:51
@teego1967 and others - I would say they don't even rise to the level of needing actual analysis. It's just "some silly thing" someone added to the web form; treat it like that IMO.
Old_Lamplighter
Old_Lamplighter
@LaconicDroid according to "critical race theory", crediting success to hard work, is "toxic whiteness", and goes against the "be less white" programs out there
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@LaconicDroid since I'm in a few "protected classes" myself, I constantly get people trying to rope me into this nonsense. It's really more insulting than people getting into your face over your "immutable traits" or whatever they're calling it this week. What it really is is "condescending compassion". I could be wrong and will admit to a bit of confirmation bias on my part, but I see it often enough to know it's a thing.
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@teego1967 the only luck I've ever had on the job is bad. Including two permeant injuries.
GammaGames
GammaGames
@Old_Lamplighter Crediting success to more than hard work is just acknowledging reality lmao
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Bernhard Barker
Bernhard Barker
While I can appreciate your objection to these types of interview questions, this doesn't answer the question.
Old_Lamplighter
Old_Lamplighter
@GammaGames Perhaps that is true for you, in which case you would be an exceedingly rare exception, though I somehow doubt it. People who tend not to credit hard work have typically not tested the hypothesis.
@BernhardBarker Oh, he answered the question, quite effectively too. stupid questions like these are a clear sign of what kind of nonsense awaits if you join such an organization.
JS Lavertu
JS Lavertu
@GammaGames Here's some advice: Don't argue unless you're interested in an endless rant about the evils of "wokeness".
Bernhard Barker
Bernhard Barker
20:51
Would you give the same advice to someone who is, say, unemployed, been looking for work for months/years, who's on the verge of homelessness and starvation with a family to support and would be willing to take pretty much any job? This seems to be directed at a very specific demographic without considering who else might be reading it.
Old_Lamplighter
Old_Lamplighter
@BernhardBarker anyone can argue edge cases, but doing so is not helpful in the least. But to answer your question, I was in that position, I took the job, and they were so crazy, I had a stroke, ended up getting divorced and was homeless for a while. So, personally, I'd say yes. Would you advise someone to take the job that I took?
Bernhard Barker
Bernhard Barker
@Old_Lamplighter It's an exaggeration to demonstrate the point that everyone's situation is different and blindly giving the "don't take the job" advice is not helpful to many people who actually need help. It seems that either this answer is assuming the company is such an abysmal place to work that even homelessness is better than working there, and this is pretty much an objective truth that we can say is true knowing only this one interview strategy, or it's assuming the person reading it will have better job options. Neither assumption seems justified.
Old_Lamplighter
Old_Lamplighter
21:08
@BernhardBarker Have you ever worked for a bad company? A bad fit is worse than no job at all. I know that first hand and have seen other companies pull nonsense as well
where people have had their lives set back, if not outright ruined
Bernhard Barker
Bernhard Barker
21:34
@Old_Lamplighter In your opinion, given your circumstances, and the specific job you had, fair enough. But I don't think it's fair to suggest everyone else should make the same decision when we know basically nothing about them, their circumstances, or the job (other than this one interview tactic that we seem to be assuming is basically the worst thing a company can ever do and nothing can possibly salvage that).

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