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KorvinStarmast

00:50

@MikeQ still wouldn't kill smaug

Hot RPG Questions

01:25

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Q: The "Foolish" descriptor in Cypher System seems way too good. Have I missed something?

The Foolish descriptor on p. 73 of the Cypher System Rulebook seems to be intended for playing characters who are idiots. A character with this descriptor has -4 to their Intellect pool, and all expenditures from that pool have +1 to their cost. They also have +1 to the difficulty of some kinds o...

cypher-system

Shalvenay

@KorvinStarmast yeah, you might want something a bit bigger for that, like a SA-2 ;)

AncientSwordRage

02:42

Let your character's be good at what they do - Ginny Di on YouTube

BESW

@AncientSwordRage [amused] One of the things that 4e helped me realize with its "effect on miss" feature on limited-use abilities, was that the pass/fail nature of the dice roll, combined with no guidance for failing forward or even attributing failure to outside influences, baked "don't let your characters be good at what they do" into the core mechanics.

Then I got a glimpse of games like Fate where players get power to choose how to spend success currency, and Cthulhu Dark where failure is rarely even an option at all and instead you roll to see whether/how success escalates the situation.

The permissive "let your players" is probably my biggest problem with the whole topic as framed by D&D; that the GM is in that position of deciding to "let" players succeed is a power dynamic I don't want to be part of, no matter how benevolently.

BESW

03:00

These days I'm very interested in engines where success/failure isn't even the question being asked.

BESW

03:27

If anybody's got a favorite game where the randomizer isn't checking for success/failure, let me know!

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AncientSwordRage

@BESW yup it's a problem with the culture and lack of guidance for DMs... But I don't fault the video maker for engaging with that and trying to address it

BESW

03:43

Oh, absolutely. I think it's important to make sure "don't sabotage your friends' fun" is a clear and explicit principle.

I'm just sad that third-party creators have to shoulder that burden.

So many games have SOME kind of mitigation and control points built into the systems, like Fate points, or Resistance in BitD, instead of leaving it entirely to the GM's recognizance.

(And then enforcing the GM's authority with tools like Inspiration.)

KorvinStarmast

04:06

GM's are people, they are fellow gamers. Let go of your hate.

Xirema

04:25

^ You can consider that a formal request to have the Elemental Plane of Math unfrozen, if there's any Moderators here.

😛

bobble

04:36

@BESW I mean, I'm aware of a game which didn't use any randomizer... but still checked for success or failure. The only way it knew to resolve a check was to compare skill+ability against a fixed number.

BESW

Ah, yeah. That's a good point.

I'm more interested in the "axis other than success/failure" part.

Mithical

@Xirema done

Xirema

@Mithical Thank you!

Mithical

np

bobble

fun fact, when mith says "np" it means "ninja powers". mith has ninja powers. right?

Mithical

04:46

no comment 👀

bobble

proof:

in PSE D&D Chatroom, Feb 25 '21 at 11:42, by Graylocke

you have +17 stealth

Mithical

are you implying that I am actually, in real life, Blort? :D

bobble

do you have proof otherwise

Mithical

mmmmmmmm

Xirema

06:55

@ThomasMarkov Yeah, after reviewing the math, I gave it to you. It seems pretty clear that at most levels of play, the feat would still be "good enough" to merit use. I particularly like the characteristics it has in the 5-16 range, in that it is good to use against "moderately" armored creatures, bad to use against heavily armored creatures, and that more or less sticks through the entire range.

AncientSwordRage

10:15

@bobble too risky to admit but... Nods head to say yes

SPArcheon

10:44

I was going to post this in the Dragon room since the topic was first mentioned there, but then I realized that this does not involve any dragon so it is safe to post it there instead. Fell free to move as required.

Someone mentioned a big love for Garlic and related products, so I went looking for something I saw once.

here.

(source info: reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/lu1r2c/… )

and Oath version

(again, source info here: reddit.com/r/UnearthedArcana/comments/mzlrjg/… )

Have fun.

AncientSwordRage

11:04

I need a garlic bread patron

AncientSwordRage

11:55

@V2Blast I really appreciate the edit but I'll have to cherry pick those changes based on what I actually want vs. what people think I want. — AncientSwordRage 2 mins ago

@V2Blast ^

Won't be right now though

NautArch

13:57

@AncientSwordRage Was your intent really just about what happens to the books?

AncientSwordRage

14:15

@NautArch Yes (about ~90%), the title was meant to be a little pithy but I do care if the patron matters... i.e. I would prefer answers to address both.

NautArch

@AncientSwordRage That is my bad. It reads a bit like an X-Y then. The patron section was a red herring.

MIght be better to just put up a new question about feign death and how it interacts with those items.

Rather than focus on fooling the patron and illusions.

AncientSwordRage

14:48

@NautArch The top (and accepted and first) answer perfectly matches what I was thinking of when I asked though

I also think the edit covers both sides now?

NautArch

it mentions the the fact that you aren't actually dead so the gate hasn't been passed with feign death for the books to crumble

AncientSwordRage

> Whether a patron is fooled by the Feign Death spell or not is irrelevant. I would suspect not since we're talking a about low-level spell vs a god-like entity, but that's more in the realm of the DM's prerogative.

^ I'm happy with that

NautArch

But I would say those are really two separate questions that are very related. I guess I dno't see a real need to separate, but I think it'd have been more helpful for everyone to have started with a better focus. But that's just my thoughts :)

But it also seems like the deity must be with the character in order to do all this and 'see' if the books is still there. But is that really the situation you expect?

AncientSwordRage

I agree better initial focus would have been good

NautArch

And that seems much less likely than 'does the patron know' in general.

AncientSwordRage

14:53

The patron* gives the items, so I presumed it was the patron that took them away

NautArch

How often do you have patrons visiting the characters ?

The presumption is dangerous :)

AncientSwordRage

@NautArch I'm playing a warlock, bad judgements based on dangerous presumptions is my bread and butter

NautArch

And taking away is different than triggering destruction.

AncientSwordRage

Mmmmm bread and butter 😋

@NautArch maybe?

NautArch

Sorta like this:

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Q: When a Glyph of Warding is triggered, does the caster know?

Let's say an explosive glyph was set in front of a house of someone that might be attacked late in the night. Condition set that any hostile creature to the person that passes by triggers it. So nighttime comes and sure enough a dumb assassin who doesn't check for magic or anything stumbles ont...

dnd-5e spells

But patrons gonna patron.

@AncientSwordRage Shush yo, i haven't had breakfast yet!

AncientSwordRage

14:58

@NautArch 😨

don't make me get you breakfast D:

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Q: Does Cyttorak know about Colossus?

Is Cyttorak (the 'diety' who gives power to the Juggernaut via a gem) aware that Colossus has usurped the Juggernaut's power?

marvel x-men

I was thinking this ^

NautArch

AFter a horrifically quick scan, that seems to work because the event was right in front ofhim.

I'v tried to read some X-men recently and turns out i'mnot really into them.

AncientSwordRage

@NautArch yeah I had forgotten the answer when I got it, but I'm not thinking of making a Barbarian Warlock ... 🤔

NautArch

I am pretty psyched that a random comic i read as a kid is making it tot the screen with Moon Knight.

Did tell my 10 year old he's likely not ready for it.

AncientSwordRage

16:48

@NautArch I know very little about Moon Night but from what I know... yeah.. not ready

Hot RPG Questions

18:14

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Q: Do riders provoke Attack of Opportunity?

Attack of Opportunity has this trigger: A creature within your reach uses a manipulate action or a move action, makes a ranged attack, or leaves a square during a move action it’s using. If you are riding, none of this applies: uses a manipulate action: Command an Animal does not have the mani...

pathfinder-2e opportunity-attack mounted-combat

SmokeDetector

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Thomas Markov

@SmokeDetector we've had a few spams from a profile with that picture

AncientSwordRage

18:34

@NautArch I raised a flag about an unneeded post notice after starting to write a meta about them, but then I found this meta:

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A: Questions tagged [game-recommendation] still show the old banner

Yeah, that's an artefact of the way banners work and the fact that they were once on-topic. The short answer is that flagging and close votes is the only way to deal with it effectively. The long answer is that banners are manually added or removed. (So fortunately, no new banners are going to h...

I'm guessing no point posting my meta post about them then?

NautArch

@AncientSwordRage is it identical? Which post/notice?

AncientSwordRage

@NautArch the exiting meta is one I linked, the new one would be titled 'Update post (notices) that imply Game Recommendation questions are ok, when they aren't (anymore)?'

Thomas Markov

20:40

Found a neat SEDE query: How many words have I written altogether?

It seems to grossly overestimate words.

goodguy5

21:22

@ThomasMarkov 43619?

and I'm assuming that a word is everything with a whitespace between

Thomas Markov

@goodguy5 Mine gave me 289000

But I found a user with only one post, it estimated 1100 words and their post was only 150 words.

Hot RPG Questions

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Q: Could I cast on myself the same spell limitless? could this be a good strategy for a combat?

Following the Rules Compendium page 137 in the paragraph "combining spells effect" it is used an example where the same spell may be directed to the same target but the effects would not cumulate. "Same Effect with Differing Durations: When the same effect is cast more than once on the same targ...

dnd-3.5e optimization spellcasting

AncientSwordRage

21:55

@ThomasMarkov must include HTML

Yeah the body of a post includes the html I think?

Mines only 47,796

Someone_Evil

@ThomasMarkov Uhm, wouldn't that query give the count of non-whitespace characters, not words?

No, wait. It gives the whitespace count as words estimate?

Someone_Evil

22:12

I did a fork which gives you the estimate per post if you want to check on it

I'd assume tables are gonna be the greatest sinner towards discrepancy (assuming it reads the markdown which I don't remember whether is true

AncientSwordRage

23:20

Do we already have a question about the Tarrasque swallowing a clay golem?

@Someone_Evil the link doesn't work for me

Someone_Evil

I don't know why it doesn't? Do you otherwise have trouble with SEDE?

AncientSwordRage

Don't think so? I'm on mobile btw

I just get a number

Someone_Evil

For the query or the page?

AncientSwordRage

BESW

23:35

Rock Paper Scissors Duet by momatoes. A duet between characters bound in fate.

Someone_Evil

Oh, the edit where I undid the link thingy got got lost. That column is post ID

BESW

LatinAmerican TTRPG Bundle: Creator's Day and Beyond! by Maik and 12 others. The RPGLATAM community is proud and happy to bring you this bundle with 20 games by Latin American creators who are eager to share their games with the world at large.

URCHINS - A Blades in the Dark Crew by Misha Panarin. A crew of child criminals, Forged in the Dark.

Robert Bohl wrote a twitter thread about why Instead of "What is an RPG?" sections in books, I prefer "What is this game?"

Clark Valentine hypothesized on twitter that Many "rules lite" TTRPGs aren't as light as they appear because they rely on social experience and media/narrative literacy of the players which is invisible among certain circles, but is glaringly obvious when a player doesn't share it

AncientSwordRage

23:53

@Someone_Evil working now

KorvinStarmast

@Shalvenay can you meet me in the back room?

@V2Blast Had trouble getting on site this morning, was there a Denial of Service attack this morning on the SE network? Asking for a particular reason.

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