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AncientSwordRage

00:08

What am I missing here? rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/196071/…

BESW

@AncientSwordRage I'd want the dragon question to talk about why about the quoted text isn't sufficient; it looks to me like the answer is right there in the question.

> If a flying creature is knocked prone, has its speed reduced to 0, or is otherwise deprived of the ability to move, the creature falls, unless it has the ability to hover or it is being held aloft by magic, such as by the fly spell.

Dragon: flying? yes. Prone? yes.
Check if: can hover? held aloft by magic?
If "yes" to either, does not fall. Otherwise, falls.

NHP says in the comment that the text does answer the question, but the purpose of asking is because others are confused about it? But that isn't reflected in the question.

To address confusion, the question should contain the confusion it wants answers to address. In this case, I think it's a vocabulary distinction between choosing to go prone and being forced prone. Which may be implied by the question but isn't explicit; the only reason I think it's the case is by comparing the question to the SAQ.

(Personally I'm on the record that rulings which hinge on a single word used in the vernacular don't have a lot of weight; especially in 5e where we know the style is casual, the editing is haphazard, and the onus is on the GM to apply "common sense" interpretations.)

AncientSwordRage

00:24

We could have 3 master questions, one where the answer is "Speak to the other players (including the GM if you have one)", one is "D&D5e is designed to be interpreted differently at each table", ... And I can't think of another

BESW

Also, as a matter of general design principles, D&D of any edition rarely cares about the origin or cause of status effects when determining the effect ; once a status effect is applied, its effect is standardized. I'm inclined to read "knocked prone" as a dramatic editorial choice and an implication that creatures would not choose to suffer the effects of being prone while flying voluntarily.

This conforms with the "common sense interpretation" attitude 5e expects GMs to apply to their rulings, and is reinforced by the lack of a description of what happens to a flying creature who decides to go prone as opposed to being forced prone.

At every level from GM principles to the text's style standards to the missing passage about choosing to go prone while flying, suggests that the phrase "knocked prone" is not implying the existence of an alternative status effect.

(This is one of the wild things about 5e to me, btw: it's an exception-based system which handles its exceptions so sloppily that readers find it reasonable to think there are secret hidden exceptions.)

BESW

01:28

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Adeptus

@BESW I saw a discussion somewhere about the benefits of voluntarily going prone while flying (if you're immune to the fall-out-of-the-sky effect)

Ben

01:55

Afternoon all

AncientSwordRage

02:09

@Ben good night

Ben

@AncientSwordRage Is that a "hello" or a "goodbye"? Lol

AncientSwordRage

An awkward hello

Ben

02:27

I think since people say "goodnight" when they go to sleep it's usually a goodbye haha

How's things?

AncientSwordRage

@Ben that's why it was awkward

@Ben can't complain, you?

Ben

On the one hand, I'm in lockdown (my son got COVID from school - thankfully it was only mild, he's all better now we're just waiting out the isolation)

On the other hand, we finally have power over at the new house! One more week and we can move in!!!!

[roll for excitement +23]

d20

Dice Service

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Ben

Gosh, H*ck, and darn tootin' am I excited. We've been waiting to move in for months now

Adeptus

02:46

[kermit armwave.gif]

Ben

@Adeptus my reaction precisely haha

goodguy5

02:57

@Ben I'm not usually on when you are, what now. why no power?

AncientSwordRage

@Ben 🙌🏻

@goodguy5 I'm guessing it's that new?

Ben

@goodguy5 It's a new building, so we've finally got the connection to the grid.

All we're waiting on now is our agreement (though I daresay my folks won't be too worried about letting us move in early)

Hot RPG Questions

03:40

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Bardic Wizard

06:05

@AncientSwordRage hah, I do some crazy stuff but at least I document it (mostly)

We had a discussion at lunch the other day about stupid/weird/not safe/unusual things we’d done. I won with a couple of the “unauthorized chemistry experiments in the bathroom of my ballet place with soap, citric acid, baking soda, vinegar, daisies, clover, dirt, rosin, etc” stories.

BESW

Also, @BardicWizard : #LHSrescue, silver spoons edition

Bardic Wizard

@BESW fun fun fun!

@BESW I prefer to think of it as aiding and abetting future teenage miscreants interested in yarn and rpgs and books and such

Unrelated: Anyone have a copy of a d&d (preferably 5e and an official translation) book in Spanish? And if so can you tell me what the translations used for the name of the game and for the dungeon master are? We had an argument and I need to prove a thing before we submit the project.

BESW

06:23

@BardicWizard They are not translated. Those terms are brand identity. Quotes from the publicity material for the Spanish translations:

> El objetivo del juego de rol Dungeons & Dragons® (D&D) es contar historias en mundos de espada y brujería.

> Un jugador asume el rol del Dungeon Master (DM): el narrador principal y árbitro del juego.

The Dungeon Master's Guide is Guia del Dungeon Master

bobble

I didn't get to work through more Murderbot today :( All the time I was able to listen to things (can't find ebooks, just audiobooks) I was also coding. So I used well-known music instead, which I don't mind missing some words/parts due to concentrating on the assignment. And this situation does not appear to be looking up for tomorrow. Oh well, a few days without won't kill me.

I tend to get obsessed with things and try to consume them all at once so it's frustrating to not be able to.

Sorry, off-topic

Bardic Wizard

06:56

@BESW thanks. I said we should check cause I thought there might be something official, everyone else thought we should just translate it literally, so it’s comforting to know that none of us were totally correct (we’re gonna end up using the literal translation because it’s for class and everything has to be en español, but I wanted to know anyways)

@bobble not a bad thing…

Groody the Hobgoblin

08:10

@kryan I think you had posted a detailed answer to my question about Soul Hags, which unfortunately got downvoted, and now is gone. (I had no time to read it at the time). I'd be interested to see what you had to share about it, if you still have the text, would you mind posting it here instead? Thank you.

Soul Hags = Night Hags / Soul Bags

BESW

Unfortunately that user hasn't been in chat recently enough for @[name] to ping them; we can tell because the interface doesn't offer an autocomplete when we start typing the name.

Carcer

09:00

and anecdotally, I don't believe he visits any of the chat-chat channels anyway

BESW

Only when comment threads get chattified.

Carcer

Yeah. I have the text of it (high enough rep to see deleted posts) but I'm reluctant to republish in any kind of publicly visible way

BESW

09:19

Yeah, same; when a poster deletes their own post it seems like bad form to reproduce it without permission.

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09:58

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AncientSwordRage

10:15

@bobble that's intensely relatable... Also none of that should be considered off topic really

AncientSwordRage

10:51

@bobble but yeah I know what you mean about having to put things down for a few days not feeling good/right

goodguy5

14:40

Aw man, just saw an old answer from Sir Cinnamon, haven't seen him in a dog's age

NautArch

15:31

@goodguy5 hey-o!

goodguy5

hey'o

@NautArch I feel like I focused on the soft side of the game

I mentioned combat, but the answer was by no means combat focused

NautArch

@goodguy5 Let me try and reread. It ready initially like your experience was with combat-healers and you lead with referencing combat. The details of the RP issues seem to be what OP was askuing for, so that's what I'm looking for in answers.

goodguy5

@NautArch hrm.... maybe I should have said "fighter-healer"

NautArch

I did a re-read and I kinda see where you're coming from - but it still very much seems to looking at this from a combat-differentiation and not a RP-differentiation.

goodguy5

I'll clarify a bit, but I see what you're saying.

I felt like the answer was getting a little long.

NautArch

15:36

OP is really concerned about the same style of character creating issues in RP. An answer focusing on that feels like what OP is needing.

I think your answer can likely be trimmed and refocused to cover RP.

goodguy5

how do I indent a list?

NautArch

" - "?

i think

goodguy5

no, like, subpoint

Someone_Evil

the indent dash needs to be on line with the text of the other bullets (CommonMark change)

goodguy5

ah ha. two extra spaces

@NautArch how's that

NautArch

15:49

hmm

I'm not as sure

Are you saying that the characters MUST have different choices in backgrounds/proficiencies for this to work?

Your 'expectations' also seem unreasonable. I don't think we need to assume any of those tropes.

goodguy5

@NautArch No, I'm pointing out that there are many ways for characters to be different

NautArch

A focus on that may be a better tack to take.

goodguy5

and not expect as in "you must", expect as in "I think of first", hence why I said stereo types

NautArch

I'm just not sure how it's helping the answer - but if you were to tweak it more into how each one of thsoe can be entirely different from the trope, that'd be better.

goodguy5

You're being really needy about holding answers on the stack to a higher quality /s

but again, I see what you mean. brb

NautArch

15:52

It still feels a little too much on the idea generation bit and I'd just prefer to focus on experience based answers to this particular problem.

I see lots of obvious solutions,l but I've never tried them or can talk about using them.

goodguy5

I mean, I have two cases...

NautArch

I like the last bit the most.

goodguy5

And I always tell my players that I don't care what class they play, I'll figure it out

NautArch

I think that is really a stronger focus about how the same type of characters are simply 'played differently' by different players.

But a review of how things went in RP and why it isn't(?) a concern would be a stronger answer.

goodguy5

alright alright alright noted I hate when someone is right in criticizing me

It's much easier for me to say that you're dumb and wrong.

NautArch

15:55

hahahahah

I am dumb and wrong, though. Unrelated issue :P

And mea culpa - they are also asking about surviving combat.

goodguy5

@NautArch listen here you

anyway, last edit

NautArch

take my upvote

characters>character sheets. love it!

goodguy5

16:14

@NautArch that was in the original draft :P

hardest 10 points I've ever had to work for

NautArch

yeah, baby. Work it!

goodguy5

actually, not true, that stupid level 17 fighter question I think netted me 20

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NautArch

@goodguy5 good chance i'll bounty it once i can.

goodguy5

actually, less than 20, because it's +2/-2

NautArch

16:16

You're at -2?!

ugh.

Trying to find if we have a question about players copying characters.

goodguy5

RIGHT?!

I thought we'd addressed that

@NautArch I think some people serial downvote build questions

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NautArch

@goodguy5 yeah, that's the one i've found and it's not relevant. I think they should ask it.

goodguy5

same

NautArch

Darn X-y problems.

i'd be miffed if someone copied my new character.

goodguy5

@NautArch hell, I'd be miffed if someone copied my old character

NautArch

16:25

I'd be totally okay with it if they wanted to be 'with' me as like a brother or something.

goodguy5

@NautArch My best friend and I played brothers in a couple of games Hans and Franz something or other (Barbarian and Druid iirc)

NautArch

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goodguy5

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NautArch

this is fairly related. Not sure if it'll be a dupe, but adding to the comments.

goodguy5

not related just cool

NautArch

16:34

that's a great way to save your paper!

Some of my players are still very much pen and paper - and use the same sheet for the life of a campaign.

goodguy5

For IRL games, I'm a paper man

just haven't had any in *check's watch* 2 years

NautArch

@GroodytheHobgoblin FYI, chat and comments aren't for answers. If Kryan wants to undelete their answer (or if the community wants to), that can happen.

@goodguy5 I did one in-person session with a new group that is now on hold until we're allcomfortable to be in person again.

But one of my virtual games has two players that use paper sheets. One of them I trust to keep things correct - the other one I know isn't.

goodguy5

is the "isn't" doing it in bad faith or bad skill?

and regardless, is that an issue?

NautArch

@goodguy5 bad faith...and not an issue.

I roll with it. If that's how he has fun, i'm not really gonna stop it.

goodguy5

what what a jerk lol

but as long as it's not a problem

NautArch

16:41

He's also a DM :P

goodguy5

doublejerk

NautArch

but yeah, it's not really a problem for me.

Other than I get to complain about it to another player at times and we chuckle.

goodguy5

also, just stumbled across one of @nitsua60 's answers and man he always makes good stuff, to the extent that usually (as I'm about to do now) I'll go through and catch up on some answers of theirs I missed.

NautArch

I have two spell slots left...8 levelled spells later...i have two spell slots left!

goodguy5

ha

NautArch

16:43

Was even worse when he was a sorcerer. Neverending points and spell slots.

goodguy5

obviously, they're using the lifeforce - spell point - spell slots hack

Mithical

@NautArch Personally, I don't especially care if a player does that to an extent. I wouldn't trust them as a DM, though.

As a DM, fudging some rolls is par for the course - I lied when I rolled a nat 20 against a level 1 character in the very first session because killing a player in the first session was not how I wanted it to go. But I wouldn't be able to trust that this person is fudging rolls for the good of the group as the DM (where "good of the group" can either be story purposes, enjoyment, etc., not just "not killing a player").

goodguy5

@Mithical yea, the other week I had a feeling that a certain roll was the difference between victory and failure. like a 13 on the die. "does a 14 hit?" (I knew it didn't)

NautArch

Harder to do with virtual games, but I change monsters on the fly quite a bit to make combat interesting and fun.

WHich is kinda funny, because I'm pretty sure that was a complaint I had against my previous DM - but now I get it.

Difference is, I"ll let my players know what I'm doing.

Not at the time, but in general they know my style.

Feeds

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NautArch

16:52

@Mithical I don't trust them as a DM because they donl't have a solid understanding of the basic rules that they can then riff safely off of.

But as a player, they're fun. I can deal with extra resources.

goodguy5

@goodguy5 Aaaaaaanndddddd..... out of votes

@Feeds no one ever talks about raebgubs...

Mithical

@NautArch Low rolls are all part of the fun.

NautArch

@Mithical Yep, that's when the real fun starts!

Mithical

The RP elements that you can take from low rolls are the best :)

AncientSwordRage

@goodguy5 Or seldeen

goodguy5

17:03

I actually ran some Raebgubs, that was fun

AncientSwordRage

17:18

@Feeds @BardicWizard is that a dye or a bleach?

Cat of doom2

18:05

@AncientSwordRage i have some serious stuff i need to talk about

can you help me?

@AncientSwordRage i'll be in the trigger chat or whatever its called if you want to talk

Bardic Wizard

@AncientSwordRage Dye. The yellow from the flowers outweighs the oxalic acid’s bleaching ability by using it as a mordant to fix the color instead

Akixkisu

@goodguy5 highest average answer score for a good reason.

Cat of doom2

@goodguy5 are you here today?

NautArch

@Catofdoom2 Please don't constantly ping other users.

AncientSwordRage

@Catofdoom2 now isn't a great time but I can pop by briefly

@BardicWizard Spock voice fascinating

NautArch

18:18

→ 6 messages moved to Here There Be Dragons

illustro

Any mods about who might be able t merge some errant comments on this answer into the pre-existing chat? rpg.stackexchange.com/a/196151/36850

Someone_Evil

@illustro We can't move message's more than once I'm afraid

I can do something of a hotfix though

NautArch

@illustro solid answer to that revivify/spectre question!

illustro

@NautArch Ta!

@Someone_Evil Thank you!

Someone_Evil

Though it might be easier for the two of you to preserve anything from those (if it's worth it) if the convo's ongoing

NautArch

18:36

→ 11 messages moved to Here There Be Dragons

Someone_Evil

If I can try to steer us onto a different topic, I have a non-stackable challenge(?) that's been on my mind for a while: Is there a way to spears cool?

NautArch

spears cool?

Someone_Evil

Which is sort of to say; I find them cool, but (within 5e) is there a way to also make them mechanically cool/distinct/worthwhile

NautArch

OH!

WHat are you looking for in a spear?

They're already ranged, melee, versatile, and a polearm...what more are you looking for?!

:D

Someone_Evil

18:53

For a way for them to not be a mediocre option for those things? To not feel like I'm losing out too directly when choosing the spear

NautArch

Ah, so the jack of of all trades, master of none problem?

Someone_Evil

And I think you're onto something with polearm, getting the polearm master benefits when wielding a shield is sorta the only thing?

NautArch

Is the solution in the item or potentially in the class?

Someone_Evil

Yes?

NautArch

THe problem I find with ranged items is that once gone...they're gone. ANd standing there with no weapon is underwhelming. And pulling out LOTS of them doesn't feel right.

@Someone_Evil hehe. Just thinking that the item may be fine, but letting someone use it better would be a good solution.

Glazius

18:56

The sword gets an undeserved reputation as the jack-of-all-trades weapon because of its personal use by independent violence contractors in civilian settings. Really its only advantage compared to the spear is its lethality in knife scenarios, but nobody brings a knife to a battlefield as a primary armament (citation needed) so the spear is the everyman's choice for war.

Someone_Evil

And the impact of throwing the thing isn't very impactful at best

NautArch

@Someone_Evil Right! I've had paladins in my campaign who throw javelings/spears so they hda something to do against a flyer, but my own choice was to mostly stand there and wait and support.

The ranged options for non-string based martials is underwhelming and unfun.

Although one of my players has really done well with a +1 throwing hammer for those singular cases.

Someone_Evil

I did draft a feat as part of this minor obsession (obvious disclaimer about it being untested):

> - Spears have a 1d8 damage die instead on their normal 1d6.
- When you hit a creature with a thrown spear it deals an additional damage die. The spear also remains in the creature. While it is, the creature's speed is halved and it can't regain hit-points. A creature within 5 ft. of the target can use an action to remove the spear, ending this effect.

Which I like as a way to make the thrown thing more impactful

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NautArch

I like d8/d10 better as well

THe second bullet may be overpowered. I'd start throwing spears a LOT if that's how they worked.

Someone_Evil

19:04

The effects on hit would obviously be highly negotiable, and throwing on an only one creature at a time clause (for limiting gamestate complexity if nothing else)

NautArch

@Someone_Evil I'm not sure about doubling up on damage and effects, either.

Does range stay the same?

Cat of doom2

does anyone know when ancient gets back?

Someone_Evil

@NautArch Yes? You have the whole text I wrote (bar name and req.)

@Catofdoom2 We have no more information than you do

NautArch

@Someone_Evil Hmm, I'm just concerned it's swinging too far the other way. I'm a big fan of effects and usually balance with less damage.

Cat of doom2

@Someone_Evil i have a challenge for you

NautArch

19:09

I wonder if you could steal any effects from a class I built off of the battlemaster...

I have yet to remove all the older battlemaster stuff, but take a look at some of these: dndbeyond.com/subclasses/992815-combat-engineer

Someone_Evil

@NautArch Yeah, I can see how exploitable the damage of the current version is

Cat of doom2

@Someone_Evil you get all the marbles if you win

Someone_Evil

I think I have enough glass spheres for the moment, but I can't really engage on the challenge until you've told us what it is

Thomas Markov

@TheOracle Need some close votes here.

Someone_Evil

@NautArch Is there a list of schematics missing?

Cat of doom2

19:13

@Someone_Evil my impossible challenge is...

run a campign with no in fighting at all ever

NautArch

@Someone_Evil Hmm, they're seeded under the Combat Artist section.

bobble

@Catofdoom2 That's... not impossible

Cat of doom2

@bobble are you sure?

NautArch

big bada boom, flamethrower, bubbly toes, nets to you, pinned, scorpion, spiders.

Someone_Evil

@Catofdoom2 What is and isn't "in fighting"?

NautArch

19:15

Pretty sure there's no infighting at my table...@ThomasMarkov?

bobble

Step 1) get a group of players who want to play in such a campaign
Step 2) Run campaign

Thomas Markov

@NautArch Yeah, we're pretty good.

Cat of doom2

@bobble a full 60+ session game with no bickering attempts at PvP aruging Irl feelings getting hurt people going againist the plan to be spiteful etc

Someone_Evil

I'm not sure I'd use that term unless it was stuff that detrimental to the group/play health, but that's a whole other beast to there being intra-party conflict and other related forms of characters playing off eachother

NautArch

@ThomasMarkov And no bickering at my other table, either.

Mostly because i have a zero tolerance for that stuff.

bobble

19:17

@Catofdoom2 Again, all they you need is a group who agrees they want to avoid that, sets down Session 0 ground rules, etc.

Mithical

I occasionally have some bickering at my table, but that's because I'm running a game for my siblings and that's to be expected with siblings (especially the younger ones). ;)

Cat of doom2

@bobble they can't know about the challenge

bobble

Why can't you openly communicate with the players about expectations, needs, wants?

Someone_Evil

@NautArch i.sstatic.net/5hDjR.png DDB might be hiding them from me

bobble

"Talk to them" is an answer to many many social questions

Cat of doom2

19:19

@bobble as the DM you can either be a buttface or everyone's play thing there very little middle

Thomas Markov

taps sign

Mar 19 '15 at 12:52, by David Reeve

rpg.se should just have a big banner at the top that says "have you tried talking to the problem player?"

bobble

@Catofdoom2 ... no?

Mithical

@Catofdoom2 Mmm... hard disagree there.

NautArch

@Someone_Evil @Someone_EvilI just tried sharing it to community. Although I thought you were in a campaign of mine...

Cat of doom2

@Mithical @bobble you guys playing the same game i am?

Mithical

19:20

Evidently not.

bobble

D&D 5e

NautArch

@Catofdoom2 You mind cleaning up the language in there? If too late, i can delete it.

Someone_Evil

@NautArch There they are! And I am

Cat of doom2

@NautArch better?

NautArch

@Catofdoom2 grazie

@Someone_Evil weird it didn't show up for you!

I thought campaigns had full access regardless of community share.

But anywho,l so far it' a fun build.

Someone_Evil

19:23

Better question why I got to see some of it, but not all. All or nothing I would've understood

Cat of doom2

@Mithical no matter how hard i try my players wanna walk all over me and when i don't let them they get angry which makes me feel like the bad guy. so in my experience impossible

AncientSwordRage

@Catofdoom2 I'm back but not free to talk for probably ~4 hours?

bobble

Sounds like you have bad players and/or need a Session 0

Mithical

^

If both the players and the GM aren't having fun, you're doing it wrong.

Cat of doom2

@AncientSwordRage so no talking still?

Thomas Markov

19:24

@Mithical If anyone isn't having fun, something's wrong.

Mithical

Yeah, that's what I meant - if one or the other isn't having fun

NautArch

@Someone_Evil DDB gonna DDB

Cat of doom2

@ThomasMarkov @Mithical @bobble and i can't be a player because the other players always try to bully me out

Dm's seem to like me but never players

Someone_Evil

@NautArch I'd argue the Pinned effect is fairly similar to what I started on (probably stronger), though putting the feat's bonus on a resource is also a viable limitation

bobble

Sounds like you need to find better players

NautArch

19:27

@Someone_Evil Yeah, those effects are limited by short rest resources.

Some Long

If anything, the player isn't using them enough. And definitely isn't narrating them enough :)

Thomas Markov

@NautArch You talking about Baddwirt?

NautArch

@ThomasMarkov yep!

Someone_Evil

Wait, what does the Nets To You schematic do? Can't you always throw a net as part of an Attack action?

Thomas Markov

@NautArch I thought he ran completely out before last long rest?

NautArch

@ThomasMarkov Not sure, but many schematics refresh on short rest.

AncientSwordRage

19:31

@Catofdoom2 not to the extent I was earlier (which is like what is deserved, and not half paying attention)

GcL

@bobble Or a better understanding between players and dm. I got a lot of millage about adding "what movies come to mind when you think about the <theme of the upcoming campaign>?" to my session 0.

Found out some people think of spy theme as "Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" while others were thinking "Bourne Identity"

goodguy5

@Akixkisu Fair point

sup @Catofdoom2

Cat of doom2

@goodguy5 hi.

goodguy5

o/

Cat of doom2

@goodguy5 dragons for context

goodguy5

19:37

anyone know how @rubiksmoose is doing?

NautArch

@Someone_Evil More that they have an unlimited supply of nets. And increased range.

Thomas Markov

@NautArch hold up. We've had unlimited nets this whole time?

NautArch

@ThomasMarkov Baddwirt has it as an option for his long rest schematic.

Someone_Evil

@NautArch Ahh. And is that schematic not 1/SR then?

NautArch

@Someone_Evil Yes, it's a short rest option that remains usable throughout. Minor increase, minor cost.

GcL

19:39

@Someone_Evil Dunno, but you can make darts cool by allowing a character with a donned shield to hold up to 3 with their shield for free. Give a little bit of ranged viability to front liners inspired by Roman plumbata.

Cat of doom2

oh i guess for any of you who care

NautArch

@GcL That's a neat idea. I think a lot of tables handwave pulling new darts/etc. out, but maybe not?

EIther wayk the ability to hold more than one piece of ranged weapon is nice.

Cat of doom2

i'll likely not stream today if i do it won't be for super long but i'll try to entertain i guess

GcL

@NautArch I always make players think about the few things they can have at hand. Gets rid of the walking armory feel that happens if anything in their inventory is accessible in the midst of battle for free.

AncientSwordRage

@Catofdoom2 keep yourself distracted 👍🏻

NautArch

19:43

@GcL That's not a bad compromise

GcL

Interestingly, my players have very little issue dropping their equipment in favor of more appropriate equipment in the moment. E.g. shoot with a crossbow, then drop it and pull a melee weapon.

NautArch

@GcL Same here. But I'm somewhat strict about that stuff, too.

And in a prior game of mine when I was a player, I may have used a dropped weapon as a target for catapult.

GcL

Kind of gives the narration a bit of a John Wick feel really. Also, they've got a habit of picking up whatever is at hand from slain enemies and repurposing it as a missile weapon if they're not immediately close enough to get in the next target's face.

@NautArch That's clever.

Cat of doom2

@AncientSwordRage so you think i should stream?

GcL

@Catofdoom2 Possibly brook, but never river. That gets you a big delta at the end and it's a bit of a swamp really.

Cat of doom2

19:45

@GcL can i get translation out of fisherman?

Thomas Markov

@GcL New Orleans has a rich cultural history.

GcL

@Catofdoom2 go with the flow but not too fast.

@ThomasMarkov The reminds me ... now I have a hankering for beignets.

Thomas Markov

@GcL I need more Cafe Du Monde in my life.

GcL

One of these years when travel is saner we can all make it back for coffee on the river or lake.

Cat of doom2

20:05

@GcL thank you

@AncientSwordRage when you get a chance can you meet me in dragons please

NautArch

@GcL Gaming in the Big Easy would be a ton of fun. RPG.SE meetup!

GcL

@NautArch A big city tour of one-shots.

NautArch

@GcL Themed to each city?

GcL

@NautArch That would be interesting.

NautArch

20:47

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Thomas Markov

@NautArch I'll run a one shot with a chicken boss fight

GcL

21:40

@ThomasMarkov The legend of the rise and fall of Ba'Gawk.

Good cluck writing that without ruffling any feathers.

goodguy5

22:06

@Mithical that is a dope avatar, btw.

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@ThomasMarkov I noticed you watching our game 👀

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@MikeQ it's doable

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@AncientSwordRage hellooo

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Especially when it's somebody who's said they're stepping away to deal with a natural disaster.

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