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Shalvenay

12:38 AM

hey there @NautArch

BESW

12:56 AM

The dogs have to clear a path in the debris for the wagon to get through. But, oh no... Roll a Dex save, Tonka!!!

Tweeted by dndoggos on February 2, 2018 at 3:51 PM

I realized that @fredhicks new Fate accessories kickstarter depends on people actually figuring out how much they want to spend NOW. If we wait for the KS to end, just sitting on $1 pledges, we'll never unlock stretch goals. I've upped mine to $20 to push it toward funding.

Tweeted by RunAGame on February 2, 2018 at 5:47 PM

(@trogdor Are you interested in anything from that KS?)

@fredhicks I'm running a #DresdenFiles LARP later this month using a modded Fate Accelerated system with limited Fate Cards at a local gaming cafe, Merlin's Beard. I'm running it out of love of the game, and the owner is donating 50% of the entry fee to @ExtraLife4Kids.

Tweeted by IronTippedQuill on February 2, 2018 at 6:01 PM

It's been a big week here at the Hat! Let's review: 1/ We launched our new Fate Accessories Kickstarter! New Fate Points and multiple sets of Fate Dice are on the slate. Get the details and get on board here: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/evilhat/fate-dicetm-and-fate-pointstm-accessories-for-fate/description

Tweeted by EvilHatOfficial on February 2, 2018 at 6:24 PM

trogdor

hmm

JuneShores

Howdy.

BESW

[wave]

@trogdor I'll collect the pictures of the dice in the Fate chat for you.

trogdor

@BESW problem is, there are a lot of locked stuff

mk

Shalvenay

hey there @JuneShores

JuneShores

1:09 AM

Hey, @Shalvenay

how're things going?

Going alright.

alright here

Over caffeinated, though.

NautArch

@Shalvenay howdy howdy

Shalvenay

1:23 AM

@NautArch what's up?

NautArch

Waiting for the kids to fall asleep before painting the living room.

You?

Shalvenay

pondering orc-y things

BESW

@Shalvenay Have you seen Jemisin's blog on The Unbearable Baggage of Orcing?

Shalvenay

@BESW yeah, I think they'd kinda like what I did with my steppe-orcs. take the orc physical model and sort of remold it in an image that gives it roots, not just a shadow

BESW

I think her conclusion is that the physical model is also rooted in stereotype and prejudice, so that any attempt to make orcs more like people is going to either remove everything that makes them orcs, or wind up trying to justify stereotypes.

> In fiction, even telling the story from the dark hordes’ PoV, or explaining why they’re so… orcish… doesn’t change the fact that they’re an amalgamation of stereotypes.

Shalvenay

1:36 AM

I personally don't mind not having orcs in a world, myself. (there won't be any in what I'm doing for my relief/recovery/logistics campaign)

BESW

> Tolkien admitted in one of his letters that the Orcs’ physical characteristics are a “debased” form of Mongoloid people. In other words, Tolkien drew upon the ancient western and central European fears of Asian “hordes” (such as the Scythians, Huns, Mongols, and Turks) for inspiration in creating a race of enemies for free men.

(source); I can't track down the original letter right now.

Shalvenay

@BESW yeah, whereas I'm asking the question "why do what basically are nomadic herdsfolk have to be seen as seen as something fearsome and barbaric?"

BESW

That's a very good question! If I were asking it, I'd probably avoid also making them physically reflect the "fearsome and barbaric" prejudice.

Because that's not a "city-making/agricultural civilizations look down on decentralized/herding civilizations" thing, it's a "literally our real-life racist cartoons are accurate depictions of real people in this setting" thing.

Shalvenay

@BESW whereas, I find making their mannerisms contrast against their physique gives them...more contrast to me?

BESW

yeah, I'm not saying "You shouldn't do that." Just... sharing a perspective from someone who feels like depictions of orcs are commenting on positionality she shares, and talking about how I might deal with the subject in light of that.

Ender Look

1:50 AM

Can I make a question? Does someone know about Barovia in The Forgotten Realms?

Miniman

@EnderLook Barovia and the Forgotten Realms are entirely separate settings.

Ender Look

Are you sure? My DM say the game will be in Barovia, and a player say that (the DM said) it is in the Forgotten Realms?

So... does someone know about only Barovia? I want to know which race live there, to know which language I shall learn

Shalvenay

@EnderLook no, Barovia's in Ravenloft

@BESW yeah, I guess it's the difference between wanting to subvert a trope and wanting to steer clear of it altogether

Ender Look

2:05 AM

@Shalvenay that is strange, the DM said the game is in barovia and we can have backstories of Curse of Strahd (from Forgotten Realm). Maybe I understand that wrong...

Shalvenay

@EnderLook yeah, Curse of Strahd is set in Ravenloft AIUI

Ender Look

@Shalvenay And ravenloft... in Forgotten Realm??

Shalvenay

@EnderLook no, it's a separate setting altogether

Ender Look

Ok

Do you know which races live in Barovia? My DM don't want to say ANYTHING about the place until we start playing (in 2 days), and I want to know which languages my character shall learn (I can learn 3 more). The other players said I shall learn Infernal, Abysal and Draconic...

Shalvenay

@EnderLook it's Draconic first off, and I am not at all familiar with Ravenloft

Ender Look

2:10 AM

Ah ok, I'm sorry

BESW

@Shalvenay "The lesser offenses are deserving of death, and for the greater offenses no heavier penalty could be found."

(It's easy to speak Draconian!)

Ender Look

@BESW ??

BESW

@EnderLook Outside of fantasy settings, "Draconian" is a reference to extreme severity, inspired by the Athenian lawgiver Draco who thought pretty much every crime should be punished by death.

Ender Look

Interesting

BESW

Since Shalv is interested in law, I thought he'd find it an amusing pun.

Shalvenay

2:37 AM

hey there @Quentin

hey there @TheTinyMan, welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)

BESW

[wave]

TheTinyMan

2:57 AM

@Shalvenay Thank ya! :-D

Shalvenay

what brings you around here?

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay I seek the Grail!

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan :p

TheTinyMan

And I'm making up some missed time at work and this seems as good a place to hang out to keep me frosty as anything. ;-)

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan ah, heheh

BESW

3:02 AM

I'm trying to cram Cortex Prime and HWCK this afternoon.

TheTinyMan

@BESW Oh, yeah? Got a game coming up? :-)

BESW

Yeah, I'm hoping June will be able to use my group as guinea pigs for their HWCK playtest tonight.

But it's based on Cortex Prime and none of us have played any Cortex before.

TheTinyMan

@BESW I haven't either

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan -- if I may ask, what do you play?

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay It's been a while since I've done table-top RP - the last one was Deadlands First Edition. Before that, I ran a D&D 3.5e game, and I've been in a few scattered Savage Worlds games.

And I've had no less than two prospective games fall through in the last year, but that's okay

I LARP, and LARPing is way better. xD

Shalvenay

3:08 AM

@TheTinyMan heheheh. (we do have a few other LARPers among the RPG.SE community at large, though.)

@TheTinyMan oh, yeah, scheduling games is a nightmare

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay Oh yeah? There are at least two others in the Interpersonal Skills chat. xD

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan yeah, I don't think most of the other LARPers on RPG.SE are chatizens tho

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay Ahh, well. :-)

BESW

We've had a number of LARPers come through chat, but none are regulars right now.

...maybe @Quentin?

Shalvenay

I've played pretty much every edition of D&D, as well as dabbling in RFS, Fate, Traveller, DW, and one or two others I can't recall

would like to try my hand at Burning Wheel, and perhaps GURPS if I get a chance at that as well

TheTinyMan

3:12 AM

@Shalvenay I really need to play 5e D&D. I feel...uncultured...not having done so. :-P

I also always wanted to try out The Hero System. After years of pining for it I finally found a GM when I was in college 15 years ago (holy shit I'm old! When did that happen??) and then the guy up and disappeared on me. :'(

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan I do have a short-form adventure or two that I keep laying about, so I'd be happy to see about working up an intro game for you

@TheTinyMan what are your genre preferences like btw?

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay I'm a big fan of high fantasy, and also really enjoy some good cyberpunk, then space sci-fi, then urban fantasy.

I've played too much Deadlands for someone who's not a fan of Westerns. ;-)

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan heheh. I do medium-to-high fantasy stuff with some twists. I can do space sci-fi, but my tastes in that are heavily shaped by EVE Online, which causes impedance mismatches with many other SF settings. I've dabbled in urban/modern fantasy, but that can be hard at times, although it is interesting one-shot fodder

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay Yeah. The problem is, the more well-defined the world is, the more awkward I feel trying to role-play in the setting.

I once played a game set in Victorian England. I was like, "there's no way that I'll be able to pull off the RP there to the standards that I'll bet this GM will expect...so I'll just be a brute who's *really* good at dueling and fighting."

...that GM stopped playing with me, I think, because he decided that I'm too optimization-focused. >.<

Which I am normally not unless everyone around me is being optimize-y, but I was actively trying to make up for expected RP failings with the ability to fight my way out of, like, all of life's tribulations. :-P

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan interesting. I tend to leave a lot open in my short-form games because I don't want to screw around with detailed stuff for them. for a full campaign though, my problem is that my brain demands a level of precis from the world that most RPers probably wouldn't want to put up with

TheTinyMan

3:19 AM

@Shalvenay Yeah. :-) So very simulationist?

Shalvenay

take mapping for a simple example. I'm used to GIS-style stuff from what I've done for school and work, and am predisposed to reject artistic mapmaking as too imprecise/not realistic enough even if you get the basics right

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay <3

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan yeah, I'm an alternate-world simulationist for the most part

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay I haven't messed with GIS software for a few years now :-P

@Shalvenay That's awesome!

Shalvenay

does make it hard interacting with more modern systems (I tried running Fate once. butchered the system into the ground)

TheTinyMan

3:20 AM

@Shalvenay Oh yeah? I haven't played it.

Shalvenay

as they tend to make assumptions that the fiction is defined by its narrative, not by its world

TheTinyMan

Gotcha, yeah. That makes sense.

Shalvenay

I also have a nasty habit of letting my IRL policy wonkishness show through to my RP

which skews my concept of urban-intrigue quite heavily

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay What do you mean?

Shalvenay

appellate-level lawfare, policy arguments, etc vs. the rather...tribalist/power-politics approach that I see as more characteristic of urban-intrigue campaigns

TheTinyMan

3:24 AM

@Shalvenay Interesting, haha. Yeah, I tend to avoid political games...I don't have the memory for it. Which is why I don't play Vampire: The Masquerate Camarilla LARPs...they're all like that, I understand.

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan yeah, my one concept for a VtM char that rattles around my head is a first officer for whatever the in-world equivalent of UPS is :P

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay Oh yeah?

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan I suspect I'd probably impedance mismatch something terrible with that sort of player, even. I suspect most Storytellers aren't prepared for a player who's demanding data on hard policy decisions, vs. playing the partisan game

@TheTinyMan Toreador/Camarilla, but sort of a "guy next door" figure. kind of house all the kids know on Halloween as the place they can get help if they ever get lost while trick-or-treating

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay I like it. :-) When I played at a LARP, I threw together a Brujah beat cop. I didn't stick around long enough to really embroil myself in the politics once I realized that's all the game was, though.

Shalvenay

(if you aren't familiar with his job title btw: a first officer is the second-in-command/right-seat pilot on an airliner. captain (pilot-in-command) sits in the left seat. the actual flying-the-plane job trades off between the two pilots each leg)

TheTinyMan

3:29 AM

Once upon a time I also had a character for a p'n'p game - a newly-embraced Toreador Christian singer. Yet another game that never quite materialized.

Aha. I was not in fact familiar with the title.

Shalvenay

let me dig up one of my old answers on RPG.SE re Vampire for an example of how my thinking re: politics differs from most folks

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A: What are the main factors to consider when a PC gains a major airport in V:tM?

TL;DR -- managing/controlling an airport of any size is akin to being mayor of a small city, and for an airport of the size the OP describes, the challenges are exponentially larger. The previous answers have already explored the inter-kindred (or high-level if you will) political and social r...

TheTinyMan

I like the personal concerns on the local level.

For a lot of the hassle, though, there's always delegation! ;-)

@Miniman !!!

There can only be one small man in here...

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan aye. most vampires wouldn't know how to change a runway light

(it's actually a rather different affair than ordinary lightbulb changing, for that matter)

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay But most of them DO know how to produce a ghoul!

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan yeah, will that ghoul have all the know-how needed though? :P

TheTinyMan

3:36 AM

@Shalvenay If it was the person whose job was previously managing this airport, I hope so!

Shalvenay

that is true. it could be the case that they ghoul-ify key existing personnel

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay That's what I'd do, anyways.

Shalvenay

although that could raise some interesting issues with fitness-for-duty for some positions (ATC, mostly)

TheTinyMan

That's the best way to rule a company - slavish, enforced loyalty. ;-)

Ghouls aren't impaired if you're keeping them fed, are they? In fact aren't they way stronger and more perceptive than they would otherwise have been?

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan not impairment per se, but how they'd fit into existing medical certification and evaluation processes

(might make for some interesting Special Issuance medical paperwork even)

TheTinyMan

3:39 AM

@Shalvenay The nice thing about the Camarilla is that somebody's gotta have ghouls in a healthcare facility, too, because everyone's ghouls will need it

actually

how DO ghouls register differently to something like that?

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan harharhar :P

> If your boss demands loyalty, give him integrity; but if your boss demands integrity, give him loyalty.

-- Col. John Boyd

TheTinyMan

I like it!

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan -- I'm surprised you don't have any comments on the third point in that answer, or have you not reached it yet?

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay I mean...I kind of figured that that would be why the PCs acquired it

although I didn't read the OP :-p

I assumed it was intended as a tactical asset

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan well, there's a difference between catching a commercial flight, having a plane (or fractional stake) that you hire a pilot for, or being able to fly the thing yourself

TheTinyMan

3:44 AM

@Shalvenay Sure, absolutely

It's definitely worth identifying what you're doing

Shalvenay

and that's what I was kind of touching on there, as well as the possibility of having to accommodate other ops

TheTinyMan

It also happens to be a big happy target for enemy attacks :-)

Shalvenay

EMS/medevac, firefighting, flight training, military tactical, military transport...

a fair bit of misc. GA to worry about (at least in the USA) too

TheTinyMan

GA?

Shalvenay

general aviation -- anything that's not a commercial, charter, or gov't/military flight

TheTinyMan

3:46 AM

Ahh, gotcha. Yep. So many capabilities - and so many responsibilities!

Shalvenay

so, flight training, pleasure flying, pipeline/powerline patrol, aerial survey/mapping of various sorts

sure there are things I've missed in there

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay How many of those things involve the owner of the airport super directly?

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan none of them necessarily, but they're all a factor in understanding the airport's capability needs

"lets rip out the 100LL pump" "OH CRAP, NOW THE TRAFFIC PLANES CAN'T FLY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T GET GAS"

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay Ahh, I see. Hmm.

haha, yeah :-)

Shalvenay

(100LL = 100 octane Low Lead aviation gasoline, what most piston-engine planes run on)

or you could rip-out the arresting gear only to find the ANG yelling at you because they have a F-16 unit based there

hey there @inthemanual

Miniman

3:52 AM

@Rubiksmoose I'm glad we got that sorted out - I was really surprised to see an answer by you that I thought was flat wrong. If you edit your answers to the question about willing shapechangers I'll remove my downvotes there as well.

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan -- and you don't even need hostile kindred to find yourself under siege. the birds, man, the birds!!!

TheTinyMan

@Shalvenay The...birds? :-P

trogdor

what a zany guy

Rubiksmoose

@Miniman I'm honestly confused how you come to the conclusion that its wrong though. Can you walk me through it?

Shalvenay

@TheTinyMan avherald.com/h?article=44a5895f&opt=0

TheTinyMan

3:54 AM

Ehh, focusing too hard on my code to look at that just now, sorry

Miniman

@Rubiksmoose Originally, it appeared to be purely referencing the SRD and DNDBeyond, both unofficial. And given that my updated printing of the PHB didn't have that wording and the errata doesn't mention it, seemed like those were the only places it was.

nitsua60

@Shalvenay You've got that reversed. Ravenloft is a castle in the region of Barovia. Ravenloft is also the name given the setting and its materials, particularly during 2e, but it's always been the land of Barovia containing Castle Ravenloft. (cc: @EnderLook)

Rubiksmoose

@Miniman is your PHB more updated than mine?

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 ah! I was referring to the Ravenloft setting as a whole, not the castle specifically, yes

@nitsua60 -- btw, can we talk on Discord for a moment?

nitsua60

@EnderLook In 5e (Curse of Strahd's edition) Barovia is a demiplane which sometimes rubs up against Forgotten Realms.

@Shalvenay Ah, that makes sense. Sorry.

@Shalvenay Just for a moment, sure--I've got to be on the road early tomorrow and was about to hit the sack.

Rubiksmoose

4:01 AM

@Miniman I'm also pretty confused because no matter whose is older there should be an official errata outlining the change right? But there's not that I can find.

Miniman

@Rubiksmoose Well I'm now assuming it's less.

Ender Look

@nitsua60 Ok, thanks

Miniman

When I said updated printing, I just meant that it was post-errata - clearly not the latest revision though.

Rubiksmoose

@Miniman ah ok I don't know if you saw my update but mine is August 2014 (with updates). The most recent one should be the correct wording right?

nitsua60

@Rubiksmoose (I love this optimism.)

Rubiksmoose

4:08 AM

@nitsua60 hahaha. I never learn.

This, BTW is why I immediately cited DnDB. Because I'm assuming that it is always the up to date version. I'm still shocked and unconvinced that it is not considered official. Is there a reason you say that?

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Q: Is D&D Beyond an official rules source?

Comments on this answer (comments now deleted) implied that DnDB is not considered an official rules source. Is that correct? If so why do we allow its use for citations per this meta post? Is it considered official in the same way as the published PHB, DMG, etc?

discussion

Miniman

@Rubiksmoose Because WotC doesn't ever say anything about it, and it's a third-party product.

Rubiksmoose

@Miniman It's 3rd party? Since when?

nitsua60

Since the beginning. It's some company in Alabama, IIRC.

Miniman

It's Twitch, isn't it?

Rubiksmoose

@nitsua60 iiiinteresting. WotC does call it official though: "D&D Beyond - an official digital toolset for Dungeons & Dragons fifth edition"

nitsua60

4:13 AM

I mean, it's the one WotC picked to do this project, but it's another layer of (mis)communication, another bit of separation from knowing designer reasoning, &c.

Rubiksmoose

@nitsua60 So is this a difference between what the SE accepts as official and what WotC considers official? If so, why do we allow it to be used for rules citations?

nitsua60

@Miniman Curse? (Which might be a subsidiary of Twitch? When it launched I remember reading up on "who are these people, and what's this twitch thing they're making me log in with!?")

@Rubiksmoose SE (a company) doesn't have anything to do with it. It's what we-all develop habits and best practices around.

I, personally, grab my PHB first.

Rubiksmoose

@Miniman depends what you mean by "say anything about it". Because they definitely talk about it at least a little on Twitch and other sources

Miniman

@nitsua60 Me too - especially since I read Keithcurtis's answer to that meta.

Rubiksmoose

@Miniman I am curious though, can we compare print dates of our PHB. It's the only way I know how that resolve this. I have no access to any PHB but my own.

I have no ideas other than that to say who is correct. I'm open to suggestions though.

nitsua60

4:22 AM

@Rubiksmoose I think the closest thing we as a Stack have to a "policy" on what to accept as a source or not (as regards 5e) is my post on "where do I find official 5e rules?" That, IMO, isn't a terribly strong signal, though, since (a) there's no competing answer for people to vote on and (b) the whole thing is really just a well-disguised rant of mine against people who dash off answers based on tweets that contradict printed rules.

I gotta head out--good liuck sorting it all out!

Rubiksmoose

@nitsua60 thanks! See you.

Miniman

@Rubiksmoose Wait, what? I already said you were right. Turned the downvote into an upvote, edited my answer appropriately, deleted my comments.

That said, happy to compare PHB dates when I'm back at mine.

Rubiksmoose

@Miniman oops! Sorry I guess I didn't realize we had fully worked it out.

Sorry for the hassle!

Miniman

All good!

Rubiksmoose

(I'm still really curious why I can't find an errata for the language change though)

anyways good night all

The Oracle

4:46 AM

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Q: Is D&D Beyond an official rules source?

Comments on this answer (comments now deleted) implied that DnDB is not considered an official rules source. Is that correct? If so why do we allow its use for citations per this meta post? Is it considered official in the same way as the published PHB, DMG, etc? If not, why?

discussion

Shalvenay

5:05 AM

hey there @SoraTamashii

BESW

1:00 PM

June's world creation playtest was pretty great. It has some ideas that I'm totally going to yoink for a wide variety of applications, and our setting has a robotic space elf upper crust elite.

Miniman's presence was a most excellent addition, as well.

Miniman

@BESW Thanks, glad to hear it!

trogdor

1:33 PM

XD

Shalvenay

2:28 PM

hey there @Zachiel

Zachiel

Heya

Shalvenay

how're things going? still hunting for a laptop eh?

Zachiel

@Shalvenay for a desktop and a tablet, at the moment

Shalvenay

@Zachiel ah, how come?

Zachiel

brb

@Shalvenay The only thing I'd need a laptop for is looking at my files when I'm DMing or reading at lunchtime, at work. I think I can do those on a tablet, too, for a fraction of the price, and get myself an upgradable desktop

Shalvenay

2:45 PM

@Zachiel that is a good point, yes

hey there @user519709, welcome to the RPG.SE lair :)

Rubiksmoose

4:07 PM

@Zachiel I don't think you'll be disappointed. Desktops are great and I love the freedom I have when fixing and upgrading compared to a laptop. As long as you definitely don't need that mobility then it's a great choice.

Shalvenay

4:32 PM

hey there @Rubiksmoose

Shalvenay

6:30 PM

hey there @SoraTamashii

Shalvenay

8:26 PM

hey there btw @ACuriousMind

Shalvenay

9:49 PM

@ACuriousMind -- if you're available tonight, Pixie and I should be available to wrap up our DW game

BESW

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ACuriousMind

10:23 PM

@Shalvenay I'm afraid I've gone out tonight and won't be available

Joshua

10:49 PM

What happens if I try to use a fly spell while in geosync orbit?

I don't think the rules definition makes sense anymore

BESW

Game rules aren't physical laws; they're usually rough abstractions of action and consequence.

So there's no reason for them to work as expected outside the context for which they were designed. I assume you're talking about D&D? It's designed to assume a kind of pulp adventure sword-and-sorcery context. The rules fall apart equally if you try to apply them to space travel, or political thrillers, or romantic comedy...

I guess the answer to "What happens if I use a fly spell in space?" is "I've started playing a different game."

Check out Spelljammer, maybe?

doppelgreener

11:10 PM

@BESW Jenkins gets cross with you during the mission debrief and scolds you about potentially disrupting the orbital dragon nobody's mentioned until this very moment

BESW

doppelgreener

(I might be missing context on this picture)

BESW

The story was stupid, but it's a frame from Doctor Who in which the moon is actually an egg, and it's hatching a giant space dragon.

doppelgreener

Ooh. I think that is the one that came just after I stopped watching altogether.

Different, cooler dragon, with a creator other than Moffat.

Joshua

@BESW: Well getting to geosync in D&D is relatively easy. All you need is a moderately good roll on greater teleport and it will match velocity with the ground for you.

doppelgreener

11:21 PM

@Joshua That's not the sense of "playing a different game" meant there — not that the game doesn't allow for it, but D&D wasn't made for play in geosynchronous orbit in mind. You've peeled off the warranty, you're using the product outside its intended purpose.

You're at the stage scientists and magicians would say "don't try this at home"

doppelgreener

11:44 PM

(it's still awesome though)

(but if the rules make any sense at that stage it's out of sheer luck)

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