@Polyducks [high five]

TIL there are at least three Highland Scottish clans whose mottos are all variations on "Don't touch a cat if its claws are out," with the clan being the metaphorical cat.

so, what are the typical conceits of urban-intrigue RP?

@Shalvenay to me it would be temple drama, palace drama, thieves guild drama, B&E, espionage, assassinations etc

@waxeagle nods I was speaking more...globally though -- as in terms of conceits the players must make at character-creation time vs. individual scenes

@Shalvenay OIC. so like what are the typical character archetypes?

@waxeagle less archetypes, more guidelines -- I'm trying to get a sense for what traits in a character break urban-intrigue RP

ah, not really sure there. I've only played one urban set game and it didn't really get past the first mission

@waxeagle ah.

"Urban" doesn't change much of anything because it's a setting detail, not a story detail.

Are you talking about a procedural?

House of Bards talks a little about the difference between a game which focuses on "drama and conflict" vs a game which is about "procedure and challenge."

Hamlet's Hit Points talks about this also.

@BESW it's the intrigue-based part that I think changes things -- I suspect I'm talking about a game where face-to-face confrontation is discouraged, but I'm not sure :/

I don't know what "intrigue" means for your context. It's a very vague word.

It could mean mystery-solving, or political machinations.

@BESW the latter -- games driven by political machinations (although mystery-solving sometimes happens as part of it, it's not the focus of the game)

Romance in the Air is a romantic thriller that describes itself as intrigue, while House of Bards is a political drama that does NOT use "intrigue" to describe itself.

@Bookeater Hi!

@Shalvenay Impulsiveness, high profile looks and origin, too strict adherence to law, in short anything smelling of 'Paladin'. Total ignorance of city ways like in 'Barbarian"will go a long way as well.

That's a good example of how the description of the game is very vague; a political-machinations game in my group would be more like House of Bards, where the PCs are the high-profile politicians that everyone knows.

But on reflection, I can see a game based on the same description being a lot more like the Thief video games.

Better question, more specific answer. Never could resist a challenge to speculate :-)

Heheh.

There is a 320-page Microlite v74 Ultimate Edition. It is a bit lighter (liter?) than v81. I do not know what to do with this information. Or, in light of this revelation, my life in general.

@eimyr Are you about?

@Bookeater it seems that high awareness, stealth without guile, and good combat skills (Ranger in other words) causes problems as well

@Shalvenay In a true intrigue story, if combat skills are relevant you've already lost.

@Miniman to some extent?

@Shalvenay Sorry, I should have said "pure" intrigue, rather than "true".

@Miniman yeah

@Magician never name your product two different versions of 'small' or they will cancel each other out. use a word like 'very' instead.

That... is certainly a possible lesson to be learned from this.

Verymicro. Solite.

but here this is what i will do with this information about a 320-page rpg called microlite

there, the star has been used :D

I fear we could enter a recursive loop of ironic star awards.

Idle thought: what if there was bad-question, for stuff like system recommendation and whatnot. Opt-in to even see them, no rep change from them.

Random question: When you select "Improve Edit" on a Suggested Edit review, does the original editor get credit for having an edit approved?

@Miniman as in rep?

@Shalvenay Rep, stats, whatever they would normally get if I just hit "Approve".

@Miniman I believe they still get rep

@Shalvenay With a bit of investigation, they do indeed get rep and another on their count of approved edits. That's nice to know.

@eimyr Groups board?

@Miniman your investigation has turned up accurate results.

@Miniman No, not really.

@Ahriman A board where we put games up.

vocaroo.com/i/s1BFRqzj5SCZ

@eimyr Sadly my Hack Fu is weak, without more input it will be lst in the vastness of Internet, Time and Space

@Ahriman what are we trying to hack?

Are you trying to solve @Eimyr's question? Because I've got some good leads on that already. I've just got to wait for my girlfriend's family to leave so I can finish

@Polyducks yes to that

@KorvinStarmast did we edit-clash, or did you think it not proper to name the podcast? If it was just a clash I'll re-make my edit; if you think it not right to link the podcast I've no need to go to war =)

(ps I like bringing a one-line "answer" up to the fore, as you just did.)

@Ahriman I've looked over personal details I shouldn't have in search. I can tell you, however, that the quote is wrong if it does exist. Mage: The Ascension was written by a group of eight freelancers in an office for very little pay. It's unlikely it was written 'in a constant state of intoxication'.

@eimyr ^

I think I know where I'll find that quote though.

@nitsua60 I screwed up and overwrote your edit. I just added the pod cast link.

@KorvinStarmast cool--looks good. It's an answer that I'm not sure how I'd feel about for my table, but I think is absolutely correct by the book =)

@doppelgreener Is that shape taken from the 4e map of Vyvern Lake, in Cormyr?

for reference

@nitsua60 Given the recent kerfluffle beginning with RAW that tag informed my answer before I even started. As an aside, the "is it just fluff" attitude / sentiment often annoys me.

@Zachiel that's crazy specific memory dude.

@Polyducks I've been looking at that map since yesterday in the morning. I need a place with a bog, trolls and a lake for setting my next D&D adventure in the Forgotten Realms and I'm trying to decide which hamlet or thorp suits the game better

as you can see, there's many more places here

I'm not really sure most of those survived the 3.5e/4e century timeskip but I like the style of the second map better

@Polyducks I admire your dedication.

Or greed.

Or both.

Anybody here is a forgotten realms -and- D&D 4e H1-E3 modules expert who also read the Orcus Conversion? (Highly specific I know)

@Eimyr it's more of a creepy obsession. I'm going to finish my investigation now. I think I'm on a winning streak home.

@Eimyr is there a half-credit for someone who proves outright that it wasn't written in an alcohol-fuelled binge?

No, it's about whether they were high.

@Polyducks I don't suppose they were drunk, because they managed to write it eventually.

But they might have been really high and just let the narration go.

@eimyr: how can I get my hands on that offsite proposal linkie thing?

@Eimyr Thanks for the extra deets on your question. The wording of your question was bad and you should feel bad :p

Hey @BESW

Have you ever been a graphic designer for websites?

No, I have very limited training but no experience with it.

Do you have any idea if the guys currently at the inkspot have? It's not very populated, today.

Yeah, many of them are involved in web design.

...oh, you mean right now. [goes to check]

Yes, johnp does some web design.

Saw "New Minis" on my RSS. Clicked expecting RPG post; decided content was relephant to chat's interests anyway.

lol

@BESW well thinking more about it was a stupid question I had

@Lord_Gareth Grats on being funded!

@BESW And somehow I ended up asking it anyway ._.

CBR scanner prop from The Marrow Project RPG.

geeksaresexy.net/2014/08/28/…

@BESW ...and you could get something like that that oh, did about 1/2 of what the fictional prop did (radiological is easy, chemical is a bit annoying, biological is hard)

@Zachiel plausibly