TRPG General Chat

nitsua60

14:00

possibly (B)rian, (E)lla, (S)uhnyong, and (W)alter?

Joninean

I prefer the mystical approach. Sometimes, logic kills the magic behind things.

eimyr

@Joninean Have you played Mage the Ascension by any chance?

(here we go again)

Joninean

@eimyr Never heard of it. I have only played two table-tops in total.

eimyr

Oh boy.

Joninean

Did I... Did I do something?

eimyr

14:02

Normally I would be up in arms talking about it.

For hours.

But the good RPG.SE folk might be sick and tired of me soing so over and over again

drivethrurpg.com/product/131409/…

Therefore, I'll just link you to a (free) Quickstart Edition, which is essentially a pamphlet to grasp the basicest of basics.

Joninean

Alright!

eimyr

It's the best RPG game ever made, if you ask me.

BESW

in Not a bar, but plays one on TV, Nov 12 '14 at 11:08, by doppelgreener

BESW is actually a hive mind of like a dozen and a half people

eimyr

And it's about how logic kills the magic behind things, and you're there to fix it.

nitsua60

@BESW if BESW's linking it, it must just be a diversion

Joninean

14:06

I can only imagine a fairy godmother beating up nerds and atheists.

nitsua60

@Joninean from the link, or a strange new twist on the "@BESW is..." trope?

Joninean

@nitsua60 From Eimyr's description of Mage the Ascension.

BESW

in Fate chat and game room, 3 hours ago, by BESW

Reality is simply a majority consensus, and people with very strong willpower can force things to work in a way that the majority thinks is impossible--although they tend to get strong pushback if they're too obvious about it.

doppelgreener

> "I think he's telling the truth."
"If he were telling the truth, he wouldn't have told us."
"Unless, of course, he knew you wouldn't believe the truth even if he told it to you."

Tritium21

well, that was a bit of philosophy I wasn't expecting...

IM from my friend "New Years Day - the fist thing you do is puke up the mistakes of the previous year". shes hung over

Joninean

14:14

As someone who honestly has never drunk before and the biggest amount of alcohol consumed was in my tiramisu pie: I don't get why people drink. The hangover doesn't seem worth it.

Tritium21

Getting there is a lot of fun

Joninean

But it comes at a cost which seems too great to me. Board games are also fun, and usually don't kill your head and liver afterwards.

Tritium21

The primary cost is financial. and Bacardi is cheaper than Arkham Horror

Joninean

Depends on how much you drink and how much you play, I'd say.

Tritium21

Anyways, the same philosopher has demanded I learn and run AFMBE set in my place of employment

Joninean

14:23

AFMBE?

eimyr

Always Follow Mighty BESW, the Emperor

@Joninean you'll find that a lot of times alcohol and boardgames go in tandem

That's the only way of, say, finishing Rice Wars with max players

Tritium21

All flesh must be eaten

Polyducks

A full metal bee enema

eimyr

Hi, @Polyducks

Polyducks

@Joninean I don't get hangovers. The only way you get hangovers is if you mix drinks. Hey, eimyr :)

eimyr

14:37

I call bull on that

Polyducks

Seriously. Don't cross grape, spirit or grain. You'll be fine.

Drink plenty of other liquids.

No hangover.

eimyr

it has been scientifically disproven

Polyducks

Well I don't know what to say. I've only ever had one hangover.

eimyr

you can get hangover if you don't mix, but hangover consists of three parts: dehydration, acetaldehyde poisoning and general exhaustion.

dehydration can be solved by drinking plenty liquids, at least as much as you pee

exhaustion - eat healthy foods, get plenty of sleep, vitamins, esp vit C and eat plenty of energetic foods in the morning - you'll get indigestion, you need to absorb lots of nutrients

you can't do anything about acetaldehyde but wait.

but apparently increasing liquid intake helps

@Polyducks I'm Polish and prone to hangovers. I know my headache.

doppelgreener

@Joninean I'm too young to get hangovers at the moment.

Joninean

14:42

@eimyr Polish prone to hangovers? I cannot imagine the pressure.

Polyducks

@eimyr Oh, you didn't mention you were an expert. You should've started that with 'I'm Polish'.

Joninean

@doppelgreener Wait, hangovers are unlocked at a certain age?

Polyducks

No, but drinking is...

doppelgreener

@Joninean Yep! As you get older, bad hangovers become more of a thing.

Polyducks

Hey @eimyr, I've picked up 3D modelling recently.

eimyr

14:43

Also, you can be poisoned less if you drink 'clean' alcohols, namely spirits such as vodka or other highly distilled grain. It's smokey flavours (bourbon, whiskey) and tannins (cognac) that kills your liver even more. Gin is the absolute worst.

@doppelgreener seconded

@Polyducks Nice! What are you modeling atm?

Shalvenay

@eimyr yeah, I've hit what likely was a tannin headache eating dishes cooked with red wine

doppelgreener

It's an occasionally-made humorous observation that teenagers and people in their 20s can get totally wasted and feel like they're on top of the world the next morning, while someone in their 40s can have a couple of glasses of wine and be totally destroyed in the morning.

Polyducks

@eimyr right this moment I'm building trees, but last night I modelled Resetti from animal crossing :p

Shalvenay

@Polyducks aah. I've dabbled in it myself, but dimensioning and scale are bugbears for me

eimyr

@Shalvenay contrary to popular belief, alcohol does not evaporate completely during cooking, but not so much as to cause hangovers - but it may be enough to get you over the legal limit in certain countries

Polyducks

14:45

@shalvenay I'm just at novice level right now. I'm using Crocotile3D which is basically pushing around individual polygons.

Shalvenay

@eimyr doubtful it was alcohol, it was way too fast to be the classical hangover

eimyr

@Polyducks I never did it.

doppelgreener

Also, many nights I'll have a couple of drinks of rum & coke, because it helps me relax and I'm someone who's extremely bad at winding down and relaxing. I think a lot, about everything, and many of my thought patterns are unhelpful, and there are some I'm weeding out that are self-destructive (at least, emotionally and mentally).

eimyr

@Shalvenay I can safely drink twice the amount of hard liquor than, say, beer. For some reason if I drink more than 3 beers, even the lightest, I'll suffer terribly. On the other hand, 6 glasses of wine or 6 shots is not enough to make me squirm

Shalvenay

@eimyr it's the carbonation

(or at least, that's what I've been told)

Tritium21

14:48

I am 30, I drink fairly often, have since i was 18, and I have had a hangover exactly twice

first time on some home brew wine of which i do not know the proof for sure, but I am thinking 12% abv... and then on an unwise choice to finish a bottle of absinthe undiluted. ... 78% abv

Beer has the effect of being half a loaf of bread. So you are putting yourself in a food coma while drinking

Shalvenay

@Tritium21 yeah, the flip side of that is that it's hard to get drunk on some beers, I've been told, because you fill up on them food-wise before you get drunk on them

Polyducks

@Tritium21 I'm surprised you can remember the absinthe.

Wheat is one of my many intolerances, so beer is not really an option. I didn't really like it anyway.

FYI, the best part about intolerances is talking about intolerances

eimyr

You can get rice beer

I think KEO is internationally available rice beer brand

nope, not KEO

can't rememeber then

Joninean

@Polyducks I have an intolerance for a few very specific people. Does that count?

eimyr

Did someone call the Count? One! One intolerance! Two! Two Intolerances! Ah ah ah ah!

Polyducks

15:00

@Joninean It counts, but conventionally speaking you're not meant to take so much joy from it.

@eimyr +1 childhood

Tritium21

@Polyducks Why do you say that?

Joninean

@Polyducks I take joy from complaining. Eimyr should understand.

eimyr

?

Erm... wha?

Joninean

Polish stereotype. Polish like complaining.

eimyr

Huh.

I didn't get it. Seems I'm getting less self-racist.

Joninean

15:15

And I finally read through the transcripts of the chat.

eimyr

which ones? the ones about Fate with nitsua?

Joninean

Aye.

eimyr

15:33

Now it's time for Mage QS

nitsua60

16:02

@Joninean any questions/thoughts?

Joninean

@nitsua60 So far, it's pretty clear actually. It looks really interesting.

Reading Core now, will take a peek at Accelerated afterwards.

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 back from the hike already, eh?

nitsua60

@Shalvenay yup--youngest is 3yo, and it's 35 deg., so we set a modest goal....

Shalvenay

@nitsua60 nods

Joninean

I hope that's Fahrenheit...

Shalvenay

16:10

@Joninean yes.

eimyr

...

@Joninean Have you taken a look at what Mage claims to be?

Joninean

@eimyr Still reading through Fate, doing Mage afterwards.

eimyr

oh, ok

no pressure there

Mage core handbook is a huge doorstop and requires some serious effort to absorb, even if you already know the ropes of World of Darkness

Joninean

I do not know the ropes of WoD.

nitsua60

@Joninean sorry, $35F^\circ$ =P

Tritium21

16:22

@Joninean You roll 545467676548 d10. if more roll high than roll low, you succeed. everything else is fluf

nitsua60

who was asking yesterday about depicting descent into madness?

eimyr

@Tritium LOL, that is so true. I bought a bag of d10 (which are terrible polyhedrons, they either rol too much or too little, no middle ground) just for that

nitsua60

16:58

I just found the listing of "posts I've starred." Over a third are @BESW's.

eimyr

@nitsua60 That's true for any of us

Tophandour

17:41

@nitsua60 I was asking about it. You mean in chat, right? I wasn't the closed post.

nitsua60

17:58

@Tophandour yup, in chat. I thought of you (as it turns out) this morning: my 5yo daughter had a book of hers and was copying into a notebook all of the words she knows.

Tophandour

:p nice

nitsua60

"Forggy learns to swim on your get called his mother on in and no! no! and. He so He the He so He and the then..."

TADA: ravings of a lunatic =D

Tophandour

My wife has a thing that she does when she's stressed. She lists auxiliary verbs in a certain order

be (am, are, is, was, were, being),
can,
could,
do (did, does, doing),
have (had, has, having),
may,
might,
must,
shall,
should,
will,
would

I don't know the order, but it's those ^

nitsua60

(I know you were looking more for evidence of progression, but I'd never seen IRL better 'lunatic ravings')

Tophandour

yeah, that's a good one :p

I could have a "List of words I know" book that skips pages every now and then and as you look deeper into the book there are more and more just made up words

nitsua60

18:03

@Tophandour any idea how that developed? It's interesting, andvcertainly much less self-destructive than most stress-habits

Tophandour

she had to memorize them for school once and focusing on writing out the list multiple times for memorization distracted her from all the stuff going on at home

nitsua60

interesting

Tophandour

afk

for a bit

Tritium21

Which version would YOU rather maintain? github.com/tritium21/pydiceparse/blob/master/diceparse.py github.com/tritium21/pydiceparse/blob/…

Tophandour

19:59

@Tritium21 Eh... No idea. I don't know python so they both look weird to me

But it should be noted that where I work, 80% of my job is fixing and upgrading a web project that we inherited from another company

and it's a gigantic mess

Worked on that for 1.5 years so at this point I don't think that it's that bad anymore because I know where all of the parts are in the gigantic mess.

So at this point my perception of easiness to maintain something is basically just "How long do I have to stumble around in it before you expect me to know what I'm doing?" :p

BESW

22:33

@eimyr This right here? I've had so many people who want to correct me on that.

**Cool RPG stuff:** [Bundle of Holding](http://bundleofholding.com "buy RPGs cheap in bulk, support charities & indie designers!");
[Calidar "Beyond the Skies"](https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ambreville/calidar-beyond-the-skies "Calidar Compendium of the Gods");
[Old Maps Online](http://www.oldmapsonline.org/ "gateway to historical maps in libraries around the world").

The Oracle

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Q: How to best re-work answer?

I answered How do I run a maze scenario without using a map? a while back; while I think my recommendation's a great one, I stipulate that the presentation's very hard to follow. (That is, I don't have any problem with the down-votes.) Now I've run one in-chat, rather than in-person, and I have ...

nitsua60

@BESW I don't understand that "cool stuff" link--is it a list you maintain that gets auto-posted? Is there an archive of old cool stuff anywhere? (I ask because Old Maps Online is awesome! I hope never to forget about it.)

BESW

About a year ago, after many people expressed dismay at having missed time-sensitive events like Kickstarters, I started the Cool RPG Stuff pin.

It's not automatic, it's a thing I maintain by hand in a text file and update as new items are added or old things expire.

And it's fuelled by people pinging me in this chat with stuff they think others would want to see in the pin.

Old Maps Online isn't time-sensitive, but when the CRS gets especially barren I whip out some interesting non-time-sensitive content to pad it out.

nitsua60

cool--thanks for the service

BESW

You can find old versions by searching the chat archives.

@nitsua60 My pleasure. Be sure to keep it in mind and suggest things as appropriate.

It's a pitiful little thing if I'm the only one contributing.

nitsua60

22:52

@BESW I will, thanks.

Zachiel

@BESW This defies the notion that one of you four is farming links.

nitsua60

(and I believe you mean you're the only four contributing, right?)

BESW

The idea that one of me is sleeping is laughable.

Zachiel

@nitsua60 Sorry for the ninja'ing

nitsua60

(no apology necessary: I was just slow grabbing the link)

@Zachiel I think of the boundaries as a little soft. "Zones of responsibility" rather than silos, if you will.

BESW

22:56

"Silos of Duty" would be a good name for a band.

Zachiel

@BESW "Things BESW thinks would be good as the name for a band".

Ahriman

@Zachiel Perhaps more of an outsourcing, which is coordinated from afar?

Zachiel

23:12

Perhaps, perhaps, perhaps.

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