TRPG General Chat - 2015-07-13 (page 3 of 4)

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7:00 AM

I was in a platform tent, and they were moving the beds around. I thought there was a railing.

@Sandwich It can always be used in combat for dirty tactics if everything else fails.

Oww :(

That too yes

One second I'm on solid wood, the next... I'm looking at the sky in a pile of leaves.

@Pixie How did you even survive?

7:00 AM

@Sandwich You forgot aerosolizing it for 'splosions. 'Splosions are important.

Also that yes

@Althis It was only about 4-5 feet up, and the leaves helped. :P

@Pixie Rolled 20 for luck.

Flour is the most versatile substance known to man

Me? I ended up being crushed by a 120 pound man.

That is like, a 3 out of 20 at most.

7:02 AM

Flour does all of the things glitterdust does

@Sandwich Lies. Flour won't blind you.

And you can make a cake with it.

Flour will surely blind you if you throw it in some eyes

It absorbs moisture like a sponge

@Pixie This is important.

@Grubermensch The most important.

7:03 AM

Little known fact: You can also use it to silence people.

@Althis Little known? I don't know about you, but I always use cakes to make people quiet...

@Pixie Sigh The wars that could be avoided if only people spent more time baking cakes...

You can dust your room with flour to provide evidence of shenanigans, too.

@Nyoze Flour. But cake works too, you just need more cunning.

@Althis ... Cake+Table = Silence.

No cunning involved :)

7:04 AM

@Grubermensch Some would say dusting your room with flour IS a shenanigan in and of itself!

@Althis Oh, no. They'd just wage cake wars.

@Pixie A lot less broken bones regardless.

... that's the name of a show. Huh. Cake Wars. I forgot that was a thing.

Cupcake Wars is an American reality competition series which premiered on June 13, 2010 and concluded on December 28, 2013 and aired on the cable television network Food Network. The cooking show is hosted by Justin Willman and based on creating unique and professional-style cupcakes. The show is similar to successful Chopped cooking show aired on the same network, in that it starts with four contestants who are eliminated one-by-one in three rounds, with the winning team receiving $10,000. Each team consists of a chef and a sous-chef. == Rounds == Each round takes about a third of the completed...

Cutthroat Kitchen

Cutthroat Kitchen is a reality cooking television show hosted by Alton Brown that premiered on August 11, 2013 on Food Network. It features four chefs competing in a three-round elimination cooking competition. However, the contestants face auctions in which they can purchase opportunities to sabotage each other or benefit themselves. Each chef is given $25,000 at the start of the show; the winner keeps whatever money he/she has not spent in the auctions. The show is in its seventh season as of April 2015, with an eighth season planned to begin in May. The series shares some basic elements with...

My new TV obsession - So much better then cakewars :)

7:06 AM

This, too.

Have you guys ever seen RuPaul?

I'd rather watch Cooking with Dog.

For some reason it is the newest fad around here.

And I simply cannot stand the show.

My boyfriend watches it.

I'm not a fan, but.

7:08 AM

@Pixie It is really weird how many straight men watch it too.

... my boyfriend isn't straight. xD

You would assume with the amount of drama it throw out it would be more akin to American Housewifes.

@Pixie Regardless, a lot of straight men watch it.

True, I wouldn't be surprised.

Meh... It is late. And I have to make sure nobody trips out of the stage and falls to their death tomorrow.

I will be leaving.

Otherwise that will probably be me.

@Althis An honorable duty.

7:11 AM

Oh god people. //headdesk.

@Pixie 'tis a tiresome duty, fella.

@Nyoze There, there.

@Nyoze What ails you, friend?

Would hot cocoa and soft kitten help?

"Oh hi. I want your newest phone, and I want it for... $5 less then I'm paying for my 3 year old phone. That's a good deal, yeah?"

@Nyoze He meant the original purchase price or the current resale price?

7:15 AM

@Althis I sell phones on plans for a major Telco in Australia. The way we sell phones is that rather then paying $X upfront, then $x per month, we just charge $x per month and split the upfront cost up.

It happens in Brazil as well.

@Althis So I talk to people who've been paying $50 for 3 years, and want a new Samsung or iPhone, but think they should just pay $45 now, since they've been with us forever.

@Nyoze Wouldn't it be awesome if it worked that way?

@Althis No, cause then people would say that they want it for $30 a month, and thats just... No.

I am not saying it is a good business strategy, just that I, as a customer, would LOVE that.

7:18 AM

@Althis Nope. You, as a customer, if presented with that price, would then think "I've got this much saving, I want more!"

Anyway, I really have to go.

@Althis Cya.

Do not fret buddy. There is still hope in the world.

Gaben still exists and there is probably going to be a new Iphone next year that is marginally better than the current one.

@Althis Farewell!

And all the bees will sing, and all the birds will buzz, and the new dawn will set.

You will see, it will be peachy.

@doppelgreener o/

7:20 AM

Can someone please explain o/ for me? :(

It is a guy.

@Nyoze It is little person waving. \o

o <- Head.

Ah.

That... Makes sense lol.

o/

It may also be dividing by zero, backwards.

7:21 AM

There are also |o|(GOOOOOOOOAL!)

My favorite is Orz.

o/
-|
/ \

Well... Almost lol.

_ o _ (There)

@Nyoze that other arm is bent at the elbow, and it's Goku circling his arms around for a kamehameha.

And <o>(Police arrest)

7:23 AM

@Althis \_o\_ -> _o_

only one of those \'s is really necessary, but it acts an escape character that says "don't treat this next special character as markdown"

(>x_o)>|)

similarly _____ -> _____ (actually huh, nevermind, that actually worked)

@doppelgreener zoz( you got it, me bredda)

And... I am procrastinating sleep again...

GO

Who knew you could actually do that.

7:24 AM

GET HENCE

I do that all the time GO TO BED

@Althis I am a pro.

I'm not. Procrastination everything else though, I can do.

Last night I started to go to bed and then I stopped and wrote 7 pages of fiction instead.

... a... pro-crastinator. B<

I shall then depart to the land of slumber. Where worries hold no domain and madness is usual.

@Pixie Someone should have to die for that joke...

@Pixie You forgot your sunglasses.

7:26 AM

@Althis it is you, a small part of you has clearly died inside

but that was the weak part, now you are stronger

@Nyoze But they're right here! B<

That they are, I didn't see them.

SPArchaeologist

@trogdor You wish has been granted, my faithful student. You have two wishes left.

@doppelgreener I can fell the callousness...

SPArchaeologist

Also... morning

7:27 AM

@SPArchaeologist Good -- [mounts anti-Magician shield] -- morning!

Morning.

And awaaaaaaaaaay!

Morning!~

Bye!

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Bye!~

7:28 AM

I AM SNEEZING SO MUCH

@Magician My master, I summon you to the banquet that has been prepared for you.

Oh no. D:

Anyway!

I really want to try and get this character concept done before I go home, so!

I'm leaving the distraction and will be back tomorrow.

Farewell, RPGSEland! :)

Hrm... Got a weird 3.5 question

about weapons/gear, specifically how two interact and what I need to do regarding it...

Not even rightly sure how to word it right now...

7:51 AM

Go for it Dorian

Hey Nyoze

Pop in the Maids and Mares room

I posted an updated picture

SPArchaeologist

Only to know... I had a look at the transcripts. No one made even a little comment about "Do princesses dream of magical sheep?" ??

@SPArchaeologist Well, I told @Pixie about a moment I think she'll like.

SP did you have an interest in Maids and Mares?

That was about it. Most of the folks in this chat aren't up to date on the series.

SPArchaeologist

@BESW well, at least now you have something to work on

8:00 AM

@Pixie The Campfire apparently now has the universe on its side. We decided as much via RFS.

@SPArchaeologist You do ponies yeah?

SPArchaeologist

@Sandwich Oh, sorry. Forgot your question.

Did you have an interest in Maids and Mares?

@doppelgreener That's good to know. There are so many challenges for a young, defenseless campfire in a world of sand and bad weather forecasts.

SPArchaeologist

Yes, I like the ponies part. It is the maid setting that somehow throws me off. Will have a look and think about it. For now thanks for the offer.

8:03 AM

@Pixie I have kindled it into a mighty blaze.

no wait, i might not have.

@doppelgreener Someday it will grow large enough to consume the world that laughed at it.

so like, maybe a couple of people?

Some fires just want to burn... no, wait, that's not how that went.

@doppelgreener Seems like a reasonable goal.

@Pixie For starters! And from there, who knows...

@doppelgreener That's good. It's a pragmatic mighty blaze. It's not burning off more than it can chew.

SPArchaeologist

8:08 AM

Someone took the "I'm pancake" thing a little too seriously.

I love that bit because it is exactly how I think when I'm tired.

SPArchaeologist

@Pixie did you manage to see Princess Spike yet?

@SPArchaeologist No, I am... really behind. xD

SPArchaeologist

Well, not going to spoil anything, but I love how in the whole event told by that episode she is the only one that get very tired. An that means also she must have been the only one who actually worked.

The episode don't really focus on that point at all, but it is nice to notice.

8:31 AM

I'm trying to find something else on my blog and going through my miscellaneous posts is surreal because there is no shortage of posts like "yep I'm a Psyduck" and "Yue ruined me" and "man I have had a glow in the dark plastic bat on my ceiling for over a decade now."

SPArchaeologist

@Pixie If it can make you feel less lonely in your madness, I went to a japan culture/comics fair yesterday. In the end I returned home with this.

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... I probably would have, too.

mornin'

ello!

It is morning, isn't it... [shoves it away] Magician can take it. I don't want it.

8:43 AM

I'm going to bed, see you all tomorrow X3

SPArchaeologist

@Pixie so you love ponies and Studio Ghibli?

@Pixie it is always morning somewhere

@SPArchaeologist I didn't recognize that character specifically, it is just a really hilarious bank. :P But I do enjoy Ghibli films. I just haven't seen enough of 'em.

@eimyr True enough.

SPArchaeologist

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(it is the main character from Porco Rosso)

Yeah, I remembered after you mentioned Ghibli. That's one of the ones I haven't seen.

8:50 AM

It's one of the really good ones.

I have really only seen Totoro (MY CHILDHOOD), Spirited Away, Princess Mononoke, and The Cat Returns. :c I keep meaning to check more of them out from work, but I never have time to watch things before I have to return them.

I always thought totoro is a series

like you regular 24-ep anime

SPArchaeologist

Nope, single movie

Yep. A movie I have watched over... and over... and over... and over again. Probably enough times that I could have watched every other Ghibli film combined. :P

Oh, and Kiki's Delivery Service, I saw that one too.

huh

maybe Ill watch it then

is it a kids movie or does totoro flip out and kill everyone by the end?

(not to imply those are the only two options)

8:58 AM

kid's movie

it's ghibli, nobody flips out and kills everyone

SPArchaeologist

@Pixie actual comic cover

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@doppelgreener apart from those demons in Mononoke

okay yes there is that

that is certainly a thing

and the implied sex-slavery in spirited away where everyone seems to be terrified of those black spirits

9:02 AM

uh

i don't think i got that vibe

well, isn't the whole story an allegory of underage sex work?

not as far as i am aware

a little girl, taken away from her parents, with surrogate family of other workers, slaving away for an older female entertainer, with dirty and disgusting guests everyone is afraid of?

yes

Japan had bathhouses that had no connection to the sex trade

yes, one or two

I'm not saying it portrays, but I was getting some heavy hints at the story being a large metaphor

9:08 AM

okay well I can see how you may get those vibes, and google has some people putting together the same theory, but I suggest you might want to research that and find out whether the creators said so

because we could read whatever into it

(and.... to that "one or two" comment, it was more than one or two <_< you say that like they were next to nonexistent)

I'm hardly an expert in Japanese culture, this was an attempt at a joke.

it did not really come across that way

Yeah, kinda didn't.

And just to be a pedant--someone taken from her parents to serve disgusting guests for an older female is neither a "metaphor" nor an "allegory" for someone taken from her parents to serve disgusting guests for an older female. The concept you're groping for (NPI) is unfortunate implication.

Then I was probably looking for a meaning that is simply not there.

That said, there's a quote from Miyazaki that supports your reading, at least in broad terms--but I have yet to find a source for it, it's usually uncited or re-directs to an uncited TV Tropes pages.

SPArchaeologist

9:16 AM

Pacifier mode by thread hijacking by reply that seem connected but actually isn't actived

@besw Wondering, did you feel that Thanks for Memory was an allegory?

@SPArchaeologist I'm not sure what you're referring to.

@BESW I am up to the last three episodes of SG-1 season 1

@doppelgreener Oooer. Beware: it ends on a cliffhanger that carries over to s02e01.

@BESW Ta! Stan has Seasons 1-4.

SPArchaeologist

@BESW I don't really want to spoil that directly here. Seem most of the users aren't up to that point yet.

9:19 AM

And in my opinion, that two-parter spanning the seasons is really where they pull their act together.

Excellent

@SPArchaeologist You mean an episode of FIM? You mean Tanks for the Memories?

SPArchaeologist

@BESW yep, I should thank the spellchecker for turning tanks in thanks

I think people get way too caught up in saying that a story is or isn't an allegory/metaphor/whatever. Allegories are about the relationship between the audience, author, and work. The best stories have multiple layers and can be related to our personal experiences in different ways depending on who we are and when we consume them.

So--sure, yes, Tanks for the Memories deals with themes beyond the explicit content of the plot. MOST episodes do that, and that layering and nuance is why I like it.

It's got a plot, the plot explores themes, and our interaction with those themes produces meta-narratives.

SPArchaeologist

@BESW Actually, I think that the while there is personal interpretation there, some details may indicate it was an intended layer. There is also the strange joke that the staff had sometime before the episode (I think you may get what I am talking about so I won't be posting a link for now. But fell free to ask.)

9:31 AM

@SPArchaeologist You mean the "I take responsibility for this" tweet? He clarified that was a one-line pop culture reference.

Moral of current story: Daniel shouldn't go touching alien things.

@doppelgreener Daniel's track record with touching alien women isn't too stellar either.

SPArchaeologist

@BESW nope - this whole discussion (sorry, I can't find the actual link now, but the quote is real, saw that back then.) Somehow spoilers - others do not click please

[cough]

The themes you're implying that episode explores did cross my mind during the episode. But given the nature of the actual plot, it's a horrible way to explore those themes.

So

SPArchaeologist

9:37 AM

@BESW would you like to move this to an ad hoc room? Would really like to hear more of your view

Satoru Iwata died at 55.

Bah, can't do.

And I frankly don't care enough to make it an extended conversation. It was mis-handled, either on purpose or by accident, so that an impermanent thing looks like it's being used to discuss something very VERY permanent. If it's intentional, that'd make the "lesson" of the episode quite hollow.

Oh, @doppelgreener, episode 21 is a clip show, but it's actually part of the plot that episode 20 kicks off with Daniel Touching Alien Stuff, so it's a clip show that actually works. It's weak, but it holds together and advances story.

@BESW Noooooooooooooooo

@eimyr This is the closest I can come to the original Miyazaki interview.

SPArchaeologist

@BESW I respect your wish, but please, bear with me one last time. It is also a coincidence that the episode precisely follow this model?

9:51 AM

@SPArchaeologist I didn't say it's a coincidence. I said if it isn't a coincidence, it's a very poor decision to use the top-level plot events to explore those themes, because the one is so very final and the other is not.

SPArchaeologist

(no need to reply if you don't wish. As I said I respect your choice to avoid discussing this further and just wanted to point that out before we close it)

(Also I think that it'd be mistaken to assume the Kübler-Ross model is applicable only to the circumstance it's originally found in.)

@Sandwich He seemed like a guy who was thinking about the big picture. I'm glad people had his example.

I'm crying right now harder than I ever have in my life

:(

SPArchaeologist

@BESW I think they may have wanted to do that, but had a little of tied hands since the show target. There are too many coincidences as far as I see them. But well, let's just drop this now ^_^

9:54 AM

The things he has done has had more impact on my life as a whole than things anyone else has done

@BESW thanks

@eimyr I think the link to two different translations, with commentary, is significant to make it clear that the issue is not so cut-and-dried as tumblr would like to think.

It's possible to draw on themes without setting out to exhaustively explore them.

And good stories often use universal themes such that we can read our own specific context into them, and that's a strength of the storytelling.

(Like the ability to read Scourging of the Shire as commentary on the Industrial Revolution, or the experience of WW soldiers returning home.)

10:27 AM

And in a similar fashion, Tolkien never meant the LotR to be a war allegory - though many readers do feel like it is.

@eimyr Yes, well, I think many readers have trouble with the meaning of the word "allegory."

Like, seriously? It's a story about a giant war. That's definitionally going to keep it from also being an allegory for war.

Yes, I was unclear. I was trying to say that the readers see the War of the Ring as an allegory of the Second World War - with Sauron replacing Hitler, the One Ring being a symbol of either nuclear devices or more generalised war industry superiority etc.

While Tolkien himself held that as ridiculous and commented on it openly.

And in fact, I too were looking for WW2 symbolism or a retelling of his own experiences during the war until I saw his statements.

mm, yes. That's a legitimate reading if you can support it--and you can. But whether Tolkien intended that interpretation? Should have no real effect on the impact it has on those for whom that reading resonates.

And there's a big difference between Tolkien deliberately setting out to create an allegory with one-to-one parallels, and Tolkien being dramatically affected by his experiences and having that influence his writing in many subtle ways.

I agree that everyone is free to interpret it differently, but when the Tolkien says "one ring was never a symbol of the A-bomb" then it's hard to claim otherwise

@eimyr "meant to" being the key, though.

All his statement does is put the lie to the intentional fallacy.

Doesn't undermine any non-intent-based reading.

10:42 AM

@BESW That is also true.

I often rebelled about the classic "blue curtains is a sure symbol for sadness" claim. The readers often place more meaning to the work than the author intended, both enriching it and claiming unfortunate implications. But to say whether something is or is not intended as an allegory of X is in the hands of the author and he can and sometimes does direct the reader to explore a certain direction when interpreting the work.

On the other hand, there's Robert Frost.

There are clear indications --especially the line repetition-- that Stopping By Woods on a Snowy Evening is a metaphor/allegory/whathaveyou, and folks have argued what it's about.

When asked, Frost said, "It's about stopping by woods on a snowy evening."

Which, in context, is really just his saying "That'd be giving the game away, you need to do the work and make it your own."

Unfortunately I'm unfamiliar with Robert Frost.

Inversely, Edgar Allan Poe wrote "The Philosophy of Composition" to explain how he composed "The Raven." In the context of contemporary criticism, and when comparing "The Raven" to a certain other poet whom Poe is known to have admired, "The Philosophy of Composition" looks a lot less like "Let me share how I write" and a lot more like "Let me defend myself against probably-justified accusations of plagiarism by inventing independent reasons my poem looks so much like this other person's work."

@BESW I like how they're reviewing just how often and implausibly they've gotten away.

@doppelgreener I know, right?

SPArchaeologist

11:06 AM

@BESW Have fun with 42.

Or even better. Have fun with the serpent stone from Kafka on the beach

(actually, almost everything else by Murakami too)

@SPArchaeologist 42 is explicitly meaningless, wherein lies its appeal. HHG, especially the earlier iterations, is absurdist.

Interpreting HHG is like interpreting a Monty Python sketch; primarily an exercise in pareidolia.

SPArchaeologist

@BESW And the best part is how people actually managed to link it to Twilight in a very cute way that probably was never indented (or maybe was)

@BESW I like that

The lesson to learn here is if you have a theory to prove you can probably dredge up material that seems to support it, but that doesn't mean it was intended or is the case.

Certain theories, having more evidence, or more apparently convincing evidence, seem more plausible - still doesn't necessarily make them the case.

@doppelgreener or that "the case" might or might not exist at all

I once argued the case that Long John Silver is an allegory for the serpent in the Garden of Eden. It was patently rubbish, but easily supportable within the text.

SPArchaeologist

11:13 AM

not cute enough. I prefer the 42 Twily still :P

Seriously I see the point you made

See also the Knight 2 King theory.

SPArchaeologist

Atlas, I must also say that there is a little line that should divide the "This is a pretty strange series of coincidences, you may have noticed something" from the "you are seeing thing"

11:31 AM

@SPArchaeologist Atlas?

@doppelgreener [shrug]

SPArchaeologist

@doppelgreener double error. It was Alas, and it was intended not with the original "sigh" meaning but as some people use it sometime - as a substitute for anyway

ok :)

@SPArchaeologist (I don't think it means what you think it means - it is a sorrowful expression)

I've never seen the "anyway" usage, myself.

SPArchaeologist

@doppelgreener I know the actual meaning, as I said that is a admittedly strange misuse I have seen in the past. Don't really know why sometime I use that too.

Don't even know why it was used in the first place.

I think that it may be originated by the fact that "in any event / anyway" in my language may also be used to imply that "the fact the thing are this way makes you sad" and as such gets somehow mistranslated with something that is just a "sigh"

11:53 AM

ah, i see

well if you use it the English way you'll get the English meaning ;P

so be careful with that

SPArchaeologist

I know, that's why I said "Don't really know why sometime I use that too."

I blame Atomboy for that.

(Warning. Very lame pun. Attempting to understand it will probably cause sadness)

12:08 PM

[does not understand, immune to sadnesses]

SPArchaeologist

[ astroboy.wikia.com/wiki/Atlas ]

are you attempting to make me understand that pun

how could yooooouuuuu

SPArchaeologist

@doppelgreener actually, the original intent was a double pun, with each pun layer begin worse than the preceding one. First, the Atomboy thing since Atlas is a character in that series. Then the "sadness" thing, since I mistyped Atlas for Alas. Finally, the third pun was the joke was supposed to be bad, or "sad" if you prefer.

[mentally shuts out comprehension of this explanation]

@doppelgreener My pun totally went over your head too.

12:15 PM

@BESW HA I GET IT

Morning

offtopic does anyone play clash of clans here?

nobody plays clash of clans here, you are transiting briefly into an alternate reality where this game does not exist

@Vishnu I thought about it but it just looked like yet another clone of those same games.

@BESW It is only in this watch-through that I realise the goa'uld symol is a goa'uld.

12:19 PM

@doppelgreener It's also a king cobra's hood.

:)

Oh yeah, so it is.

12:32 PM

(Actually, that sign is the symbol of Apophis, whose Jaffa wear serpent headpieces. Other goa'uld lords have different symbols and their Jaffa have different headpieces.)

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Season 3 has a wonderful bit where Teal'c tells a joke about three Jaffa who each serve different System Lords.

What is this from?

@Aaron Doppelgreener is watching Stargate SG-1.

Oh

....and I still have that SG-1 campaign I wanna run some day....

12:47 PM

@BESW Oooo! Ok.

@BESW Season 1 complete! Time to finish the cliffhanger.

@BESW one of those is Indian and another Japanese!

1:14 PM

do you mean Yu?

cause I am pretty sure that he is chinese

Joshua Aslan Smith

lol managed to get tumbleweed on arquade

@besw dat joke

Teal'c tells a Jaffa Joke

Yu is totally Chinese

@JoshuaAslanSmith whoops, yes it is

1:30 PM

iflscience.com/technology/…

So this is happening

and japan has the coolest looking mech

Indeed.

I am American. Still pretty sure Japan is going to win.

SPArchaeologist

AAAAAhhh, the Kurats.

When my piggybank is full I will surely get one.

@Aaron I surely hope so. Almost as much as I hope they find a way to utilize a giant freaking sword.

Almost as much.

@Althis I believe the combat will be hand to hand from what one of the comments said. I don't think a sword would be allowed. Though it would be cool

1:42 PM

@Aaron It is the next best thing to a railgun.

@Althis Fallout has corrupted me. All I can think of when people say railgun is the gun in fallout 3 that shot rail spikes.

I used to pick up raiders and nail them to the wall with it. Cause if you shot something and there was a wall nearby it would pin the body to the wall.

Man I have a morbid sense of humor in those games.

@Aaron I thought they had enormous paintball guns. Pewpew!

@doppelgreener The american robot does but they won't be using guns.

Oh okay!

SPArchaeologist

@Aaron Kuratas has is own set of weapons too.

My preferred one is the "water bottle rocket launcher gun"

Joshua Aslan Smith

1:47 PM

@aaron lol real railgun much cooler

@Aaron The CEO of the Japanese company said it, he wants it to be a melee fight.

Joshua Aslan Smith

4/08/2014 -- US Navy tests electromagnetic Railgun -- to be deployed in 1-2 years

@JoshuaAslanSmith It uses electro-magnets to launch a projectile at crazy fast speeds right? So smaller projectiles can cause the same damage a larger one would?

Well that answers that question lol.

Joshua Aslan Smith

@aaron more about converting mass into energy via high impact speeds

explosions without explosives if that makes sense

the fully scaled up and currently would be breaking international treaties would be "Rods from God" satellites with tungsten rods dropping them with only small maneuver rockets equiped, upon impacting at terminal velocity the explosion would be equal to small atom bomb but with none of the fallout issues

that video though would be for precision naval railguns

@JoshuaAslanSmith Isn't that about the same kind of terrible as kinetic bombardment, just slower?

1:52 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith So might be a dumb question but if it doesn't use an explosion is the fire behind it just because it is moving That Damn Fast?

Joshua Aslan Smith

@Althis by kinetic you mean traditional naval bombardment or do you mean bomber planes?

@Aaron not dumb at all and yes that is literally due to friction from the barrel and the casing around the projectile

@JoshuaAslanSmith I mean the sci-fi weapons of God.

SPArchaeologist

@Aaron It is called Viewtiful Joe rule

The thing they conjecture would annihilate planets with a bullet the size of a marble accelerated close to light speed.

Joshua Aslan Smith

@althis its precision targeted, and because its dropping from space the intercept arc is very small also, since its explosion is purely the result of mass impacting at highspeeds conventional anti-missile systems which work by exploding near rockets to trigger their explosives would be ineffective against it

@Althis ah its not realtivistic

1:55 PM

@JoshuaAslanSmith So what you are saying is: Yes.

@JoshuaAslanSmith Well, as I said, same concept, just slower.

Joshua Aslan Smith

terminal and relativistic velocities are orders of magnitude different

but yes

at principle the force = mass x acceleration still applies

the basic idea is that anything, absolutely anything, can be completely obliterated if you simply hit it hard enough with enough mass

It still seems like a terrible weapon.

so yeah, it's all about mass x impact velocity

There is just no defense against it.

Joshua Aslan Smith

1:58 PM

@Althis shoot out the satellite ahead of time

What if they don't use a satellite?

that would be why it would break international treaties

SPArchaeologist

send a small ship armed with a single missile in the conveniently placed satellite vent system.

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Joshua Aslan Smith

theres no other viable platform

With this tech, it could reasonably be self targetted.

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