TRPG General Chat

Pixie

00:01

This is probably the best part.

Or maybe they actually are NPCs, but I remember that town was ruled by a gang that punished everyone who wasn't funny.

BESW

Mike Olson on FAE approaches and spamming your +3.

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Along with this article by Rob Donoghue, could make for a great new answer to this question.

doppelgreener

@BESW You coming up with those surface thoughts? That would've been fun to watch XD

@BESW I too have a deep and abiding love for Steven Universe.

BESW

@doppelgreener For most of my recent campaigns? "AAAAAAAWHATISTHATAAAAAAA," more than half the time.

doppelgreener

@BESW But is that you as the GM or is that you as the player messing with the GM's NPCs?

BESW

...yes?

Pixie

00:15

@doppelgreener Steven Universe is a great... universe. (Greg Universe is a pretty good one too.)

doppelgreener

@Pixie They are.

Pixie

I need to check and see if I'm actually caught up on the show.

Miniman

Is it weird that seeing really good first posts makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside?

BESW

No, it's awesome.

Pixie

00:30

That blog links... a 3 hour extension of Stronger Than You... [faints]

doppelgreener

@BESW i'd be interested in seeing that. he seems he might have a scar amid his hairline.

@Pixie that is a beautiful song T_T

so is the one Garnet sings in the credits after that episode.

Pixie

@doppelgreener Garnet is my favorite, too. That episode made me very happy.

BESW

@doppelgreener There's something about his expression which tells me he's got stories inside him.

doppelgreener

@Pixie Me too. I had already heard about the twist from that episode (spoiler), but it was so beautiful to see it for realsy. (also spoiler)

it explains so much about spoiler

Pixie

@doppelgreener Yeah, I had it spoiled for me beforehand too because I'd fallen behind. But knowing didn't minimize the impact at all.

I'm wondering how CN is letting so much slide regarding (spoiler, kind of), given their behavior as recent as Adventure Time, but I think Steven Universe just has the right team.

Prominent members are just as invested in it as the audience, I think.

doppelgreener

00:44

@Pixie i've only seen up to adventure time season... 6 i think (with the flame princess and everything), so if you're referencing something after that as well i won't know about it (but there's totally lots of implied stuff before then too)

Pixie

@doppelgreener Yeah, it's well before then. It's kind of a complex situation because it involves stuff outside of the show as well. Have you seen "What Was Missing"?

Shalvenay

@Miniman -- do the potions of resist goon do anything for/to the capital-G Goons? :P

Pixie

It's related to that, but further discussion should probably waltz over to the NAB due to complexity and I guess spoilerishness, although AT's plot is not like SU's. xD

Miniman

@Shalvenay No, but they do help mitigate the effects of drinking goon.

doppelgreener

@Pixie Yes. And I know it's totally implying spoiler

TO THE NOT A BAR!

Shalvenay

00:53

@Miniman :P

o/ @waxeagle

wax eagle

@Shalvenay heya, I'll have us up in a min, gotta switch boxes

@Shalvenay @RobertF @JoshuaAslanSmith @Grubermensch plus.google.com/hangouts/_/g6bdtzkmxq6mfpbfeuims6xfwya

@Shalvenay still having trouble getting in?

Shalvenay

01:09

@waxeagle -- yep

just "Couldn't start the video call because of an error."

wax eagle

@Shalvenay hmmm weird

tried normal stuff like close/reopen browser, clear temp files etc?

Shalvenay

temp files shouldn't matter -- it's in an incognito tab

wax eagle

ah...is that the problem?

Shalvenay

well, it kind of has to be an incognito tab :p

and this is the first time I've ever seen it fail.

wax eagle

gotcha, not sure then :(

can you try a reboot?

Shalvenay

01:13

ugh, no

tried starting a brand new chromium process, and it still failed

BESW

Here's a Romanian theme bar that would be a great location for a scene in an RPG.

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wax eagle

@Shalvenay plugin might be borked :(

BESW

(Contains some awesome sketches and source material, too.)

Shalvenay

@waxeagle -- it's not a plugin

Miniman

01:35

Question asking for ways to make campaign more challenging includes this memorable quote:

> I have incorporated Hero Points, Honor Points, Unchained, and Mythic Tiers into the module

doppelgreener

i'm not editing that question

Miniman

Me neither, I took a look and decided it wasn't worth the effort.

Sandwich

01:47

Hmm

A Pathfinder question

Well aside from bad formatting it isnt a bad question

Miniman

Answers are mostly going to say "Here's all the things you were doing wrong that was making life easier for your players. Fix these before you try to increase the difficulty."

Sandwich

Challenging this question isnt too horrible an idea

Miniman

02:01

@doppelgreener You edited it, you lying liar you.

doppelgreener

i did

i read it again and suddenly it was clicking how it could be arranged better

@Miniman mind checking if i might have deleted any of that?

BESW

02:25

6yo: CAN YOU HELP ME WRITE THIS STORY? me: I JUST LOST ALL MY WORK AND GAH. him: IT'S ABOUT IF I WAS A FISH MAN WHO STABBED PIRATES. me: Ok.

Tweeted by DelilahSDawson on June 26, 2015 at 2:16 AM

I want Evil Hat to develop the RPG.

doppelgreener

wow XD

Pixie

I'd probably play it.

doppelgreener

Fishman vs the Pirates, the RPG

Pixie

It also needs a space supplement.

BESW

And Nickelodeon TV show.

doppelgreener

02:28

Space Fishman vs the Space Pirates in Space, the RPG supplement

Pixie

I would definitely play that.

Ahh. I love chiptunes. I'm going to put a bunch on and browse pixels and feel inspired. I want to live in 1041uuu's art.

BESW

...sometimes question titles just need to stay contextless.

"Are demons immune to reality changes made by angelic covers?" is really a lot better when I can pretend it's about whether demonic forces are susceptible to the reality-altering power of gospel.

doppelgreener

@Pixie but you would be so low resolution!

Pixie

@doppelgreener Hey, that just means I'm accessible!

@BESW It made me think of blankets.

doppelgreener

It made me think of cover-ups.

Pixie

02:38

Angels throwing reality-warping blankets over things they want mortals to perceive differently. Including themselves.

doppelgreener

more like aliens throwing reality-warping blankets over things they'd rather nobody knew about.

BESW

Pixie

@BESW clearly a conference of angels

@doppelgreener The entire Area 51 complex is really just a giant blanket.

BESW

[blink] Waaaaait a minute.

Farmland is a cover-up!

It's all just a giant quilt hiding... something!

doppelgreener

and then BESW was never seen again

HE'S GONE

THEY GOT TO HIM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

tomorrow i expect to not see Guam on the map any longer

Pixie

02:45

[whispers] We're next.

doppelgreener

and if i ask people about it they'll just ask "what's Guam?"

@Pixie oh no T_T

Pixie

Maybe the aliens are really chill. Maybe they're just throwing him a party for being so clever.

Miniman

@doppelgreener Looks fine to me

doppelgreener

@Pixie a kidnapping party

Pixie

@doppelgreener It's so good he just can't miss it.

doppelgreener

02:48

@Pixie or ever leave it

Pixie

Ever...

doppelgreener

EVER

BESW

There was pie.

Pixie

There's always pie. That's how they get you.

doppelgreener

hmmmmmmm

[eyes messages suspiciously]

Grubermensch

02:51

@BESW I want this image but bigger for my desktop background. Do you know where it can be found?

BESW

@Grubermensch Here.

@doppelgreener Don't worry, citizen. I am still a normal human like you.

I have merely been fed pie.

Grubermensch

Grrr largest size is still only 1024x684

BESW

You can't spell compliance without pie!

doppelgreener

@BESW but... [squints at word]

Grubermensch

@BESW Sure I can. It's spelled [--REDACTED--].

BESW

02:58

Your orthography falls outside parameters deemed safe by the ATF. For your convenience it has been removed. Please remain within posted orthographical boundaries in the future. Thank you.

@doppelgreener Your doubt has been noted, registered, and filed.

Sandwich

You'll never take me alive

I bought three potions of resist goon

BESW

Declarations of rebellion are protected under Section 7-f.λ of the Illusions of Free Will Act, as described in Table λζ: Itemised Tools of Complacency. Carry on.

Sandwich

03:14

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Mad duck pecks at BESW's Eyes!

KRyan

04:16

I just noticed my optimization score is currently sitting at 666

this amuses me, and I imagine this is the only group that might share in that amusement

Miniman

@KRyan Don't mind me, I'm just going to go build an optimized devil banisher. No particular reason.

Sandwich

Heh heh

How do you view your tag scores?

Miniman

Damn, I forgot that turning devils doesn't actually banish them. Which means that the Banishment spell is probably as good as it gets.

Sandwich

Greater Planar Ally :D

Miniman

rpg.stackexchange.com/users/14949/sandwich?tab=tags

Sandwich

04:22

Turn those optimized devils against everything else

Miniman

Interesting, I was talking about an optimized [devil banisher] rather than an [optimized devil] banisher.

But you make a good point.

KRyan

malconvoker is one of my favorite bits of RPG out there

Miniman

It's a pretty awesome class. One of the few ones that really lines up fluff and crunch well.

Sandwich

I like Psions

They're fun

I like that powers with an auditory tell literally drop the bass

KRyan

@Miniman aye

psions are cool

Miniman

04:25

@Sandwich I hate to admit it, but I've never actually played in a game with psionics.

KRyan

I like psionics as a concept a lot more than I like any of the psionic classes, though

the ardent does make me happy in a lot of ways, though; it alone almost saves Complete Psionics

@Miniman if you play 3.5, they're all on the SRD; highly recommended

Sandwich

I like Psion Gishes the most

With the Slayer Psions can pull off a VERY effective gish

KRyan

they're much better designed (in 3.5; the 3.0 ones are awful and I've heard even worse things about those in prior editions) than standard spellcasting, anyway

Sandwich

3.0 psionics were stupid

Psychokineticists had CON as a primary casting modifier

What an awful idea that was

KRyan

the psionic combat modes were worse than the MAD, IMO

but both were pretty atrocious

Sandwich

04:27

So they had access to Psicrystals, the highest HP in the game, and the Vigor power

KRyan

3.0 psionics could have been a good system, if it weren't stapled to D&D 3.0

within that context, it just did not fit at all

Miniman

@KRyan It's not really a choice that I've made. I'm not up to GMing 3.5, and I'd vastly prefer to play anyway. And it's become increasingly difficult to find 3.5 GMs/games.

KRyan

and the system offered it very little in the way of support

Sandwich

Pushing their HP into the 15's at level 1

5hp per power point per level per hour

KRyan

@Miniman you can try #giantitp on irc.gamesurge.net; people don't run games as often as one might like, but 3.5 (or 3.5 + select backported Pathfinder material) is still the most popular system

for that matter, if you can stomach play-by-post, last I checked the Giant in the Playground forums themselves are similar in that regard

Miniman

04:29

@KRyan Yeah, I've been meaning to look for an online game. Not something I've tried before, and not my ideal situation though.

Sandwich

If you want PBP rpol.net is probably the best site

KRyan

@Miniman it's very decidedly non-ideal, agreed

Sandwich

giantitp is good too, but I don't think it fulfills the function better than RPOL

KRyan

getting a RL game together can be really hard though

@Sandwich dunno about 'better', I was just referring to the popularity of 3.5 on the forum

I know little about RPOL

hi @Pixie

Pixie

@KRyan Hello!

Sandwich

04:30

It supports the uploading of maps, has a dice roller, supports stickies, multiple topics, etc

KRyan

@Pixie is that a vulpix?

Sandwich

Looks like it @KRyan

KRyan

@Sandwich yeah, GitP definitely doesn't have most of that (they have a die roller)

Pixie

@KRyan It is a Vulpix. It was not intended to be permanent, but I have yet to come up with a replacement.

KRyan

@Pixie vulpixes (vulpices?) are cool

Sandwich

04:31

I should change my icon to a better looking sandwich

KRyan

your sandwich is, indeed, very odd looking

Sandwich

Pretty sure the plural of Vulpix is Vulpix though

KRyan

then again, my avatar is a barely-legible pair of letters that aren't even my initials on this site

Sandwich

DW

As in

Pixie

@Sandwich Yep. The plural of every Pokemon is the same as its singular.

Sandwich

04:32

THE PIRATES OF DARK WATER

KRyan

oooh, nice

not one of the usual reference-guesses I get

Miniman

@KRyan Yeah, but if you change it it'll confuse me every time I go trawling through old 3.5 questions.

KRyan

far better than Darkwing Duck or Arnold's little sister

Sandwich

Whats cooler than water that EATS things though

That'd make for a pretty fucked up situation

Grubermensch

Water that eats things is called acid.

Pixie

04:33

At any rate, Vulpix are my favorite Pokemon, other than perhaps Gengar and Clefairy.

Sandwich

Hush no it isnt

Acid is a different thing entirely

Miniman

@KRyan Wow, now that's a reference I never would have expected to see.

Pixie

@KRyan Heh. Those are the only things I would've thought of.

KRyan

anyway, DW stands for DragoonWraith, my username on just about every other site out there; the only reason it's not here is because this account is connected to the Careers 2.0 thing which is my primary method of finding new employment as needed

Sandwich

A Liquid that eats things can be a very powerful caustic base or an Acid

But neither are water

That'd be an amazing thing to put on a resume

"I have 101 thousand karma on RPG Stack Exchange sir."

KRyan

04:35

@Miniman I hear "Let's get dangerous!" all the time

Pixie

Ah, yes. DragoonWraith is not exactly something you want your prospective employer to associate with you (unless they are really, really cool).

KRyan

but Pirates of the Dark Water is super obscure; I didn't even realize anyone else had even seen that show

Miniman

@KRyan [blinks] I'm guessing that's the first reference? I didn't get that one, I got the second one.

doppelgreener

KRyan

@Miniman oh, yeah, that's Darkwing Duck

doppelgreener

04:36

@KRyan immortalising it while i have the chance

KRyan

@doppelgreener awesome didn't know you could do that

Miniman

@KRyan Unless Dark Water = Black Lagoon...

Sandwich

It doesnt Mini, It doesnt.

KRyan

The Pirates of Dark Water

The Pirates of Dark Water is a fantasy animated series produced by Hanna-Barbera and created by David Kirschner and first aired in 1991. == Premise == The alien world of Mer is being devoured by an evil substance known as Dark Water. Only Ren, a young prince, can stop it by finding the lost Thirteen Treasures of Rule. His loyal crew of misfits that help in his journey are an ecomancer (Tula), a monkey-bird (Niddler), and a treasure-hungry pirate (Ioz). The evil pirate lord, Bloth, will stop at nothing to get the treasures for himself and provides many obstacles for Ren and his crew. == Network... ==

first aired in 1991? hah, I was actually seeing that show when it was new

Sandwich

A show about evil water is great though

KRyan

04:37

as for Hey Arnold, I think people make that connection rather often, but she didn't have a catchphrase so far as I know

Sandwich

What a great idea

KRyan

(I didn't watch either Darkwing Duck or Hey Arnold)

Pixie

@KRyan You mean Arthur?

KRyan

...yes

I do

Sandwich

Lol

Pixie

04:38

Easy to confuse, especially if you haven't seen them.

Miniman

Hey Arnold is a show, just not the same show.

KRyan

Hey Arnold I actually saw a few episodes of, rather than Arthur which I... was aware of

but that's about it

Pixie

I watched Arthur a lot in... 2nd grade I think? Hey Arnold was a favorite later on. Still pretty good.

KRyan

heh, my username initials are apparently something of a test, at least for people of a certain age, of which kids' channel you watched in the 90s: Disney, Nick, or Cartoon Network

Sandwich

The art was weird

The main character literally had a football head

Miniman

04:39

@KRyan Just wiki-ed it to answer the question I never knew the answer too...turns out Arthur is meant to be an aardvark!

Sandwich

It was still more entertaining than Doug though

Miniman

(mind = blown)

KRyan

@Miniman I actually learned that from a Cracked.com article

apparently the first story was about Arthur deciding whether or not to get a nosejob because of his big aardvark nose

Sandwich

Creepy

Pixie

He looked much more like one in the earlier book art. At some point, that changed for some reason.

KRyan

04:41

art evolution has extremely unfortunate implications here

since he lost that nose over time anyway

just from the art changes

Pixie

KRyan

yeah, that

undermined most of the message from the initial book

Sandwich

There we go

Adeptus

@Pixie Wow, that's some change alright

Miniman

That's the most extreme art evolution I've ever seen.

Sandwich

04:43

I'm beautiful now

Damn

Why is my Sandwich not pretty

KRyan

takes a while to update

caching and such

Miniman

@Sandwich I dunno, it looks weird. Unrealistic.

Sandwich

My new sandwich is better

Ben

@Sandwich still making me hungry

Sandwich

i.sstatic.net/i17cy.jpg?s=128&g=1

I wouldn't ever eat a sandwich in a game I'm DMing Ben

Ben

04:46

@Sandwich making me hungrier

Sandwich

It will lead to some bad times

I think I've told Doppelgreener the story

Ben

@Sandwich don't deny me food... you won't like me when I'm hungry

Sandwich

Doppel do you remember the story

Ben

Sandwich

Anyway

THE SANDWICH is a cursed item enchanted with the properties of Suggestion, Nystul's Undetectable Aura, and a Lodestone

Any attempt to rid yourself of THE SANDWICH will cause THE SANDWICH to reappear on your person

Eating THE SANDWICH will also make you hungrier, and another version of THE SANDWICH will appear in one of your bags

If you find THE SANDWICH on your person you have to make a Will save if hungry to resist consuming THE SANDWICH

Miniman

04:53

@KRyan Incidentally, as long as you're in chat for a change: Thanks for being an incredible resource both for specific details and for skills and techniques.

doppelgreener

@KRyan what was the original book's message?

Miniman

@doppelgreener Aardvarks don't need nosejobs?

Sandwich

@Doppelgreener I believe it was "You are what you eat"

KRyan

@doppelgreener IIRC, self-acceptance/self-esteem/be-happy-with-who-you-are

doppelgreener

@KRyan oh right. and they turned him into a relatively ordinary sort of animal?

KRyan

05:00

@doppelgreener well, they turned him into an oval, so far as I can tell >.>

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@Miniman thank you; glad my ridiculous retention of 3.5 minutiae is helpful to folks

(sometimes I scare myself; there are a few books that I have what page things are described on memorized)

Sandwich

I have similar knowledge of 3.5

KRyan

anyway, way past bedtime for me

night folks

Miniman

@KRyan Cya!

Sandwich

See ya later Ryan

Grubermensch

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05:05

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Grubermensch

Emperor (source)

Sandwich

It's not as good as the four fours that were rolled last night

Grubermensch

A crossroads at midnight; A guantlet or glove; A gossiping fishwife; Making merry

(what is a fishwife?!)

Magician

> 1. a coarse-mannered woman who is prone to shouting.
"the screech of a fishwife"
2. (archaic) a woman who sells fish.

That's a tough one, looking forward to it :)

Grubermensch

Hmmmmm

The guantlet is emblematic of a knight. We're at a crossroads, so this is a wandering knight.

The fishwife (both shouty and literally selling fish) is the entry-point for the adventure--she tells the PCs about the appearance of this mysterious knight and his special glove.

Adeptus

05:10

@Grubermensch and he's making merry (nudge nudge, wink wink) with a fishwife

Grubermensch

Naw

Magician

It's also midnight at the crossroads, so it's all very otherworldly.

Grubermensch

The merriment is a festival, held at midnight definitely. A fey festival, perhaps.

The knight is courting a fey princess? The glove is the result of a quest.

A quest the party was themselves recruited to complete some months ago, by a mysterious gentleman in the corner of an inn.

[sits back, takes out notepad] How does that make you feel?

Magician

So... The fishwife points the party to a crossroads where at midnight there's a fey festival, including a tourney where anyone can challenge the Green Knight (of course he's green). Throwing and/or stealing gloves may be involved.

Ok, lets do this. Prince of Shadows.

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Magician

05:19

A palace; A ring with a concealed compartment; A desperate man; Targeted for assassination;

Well, that's almost too easy.

Grubermensch

subvert it

Sandwich

Dang thats a good one

A lord is being blackmailed by one of his subjects so he plans to assassinate the person in question by using a ring with a secret poison compartment inside his palace

Magician

A year ago, a duke's son went mad and destroyed his own palace with magic gone awry, killing thousands. He's the most hated man in the Empire, still hunted by the relatives of his victims. So when the party comes across him, it seems like they made the bank. Except he has a story to tell, and a ring to show them. A ring, hidden within which is the entire palace, still intact. Will the party help him get it out by going inside the shrunken palace?

Or will they hand him over to the entirely trustworthy not-at-all drow-looking villagers out for revenge?

Grubermensch

Ohhhhh yessssss

Can't follow that one up (especially since I was also thinking of putting the palace inside the ring)

@Sandwich it's your turn. Pick a type and roll for it.

Sandwich

Pick a Type?

Grubermensch

05:34

Clicketh linky

And scroll down a bunch

Sandwich

Uhh

The archmage

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Sandwich

An Enchanted Lake, A spellbook from a previous age, A summoned Elemental Spirit, In Lost Scrolls and records

26 years after the Dark Mage Yvantar Goldburrow died, a group of adventurers find an enchanted library beneath the surface of a magical lake of his creation. After fighting a colossal water elemental, the party Wizard finds the Dark Mages Spellbook and falls into its power, compelled to finish his work. The party is then tasked with going through the Dark Wizards scrolls to find the spell that will break the enchantment on their Wizard.

But during their search they're ambushed by evil wizard ninjas and forced to battle them.. to the death!

doppelgreener

@Sandwich has become a much more deluxe looking sandwich

Pixie

@doppelgreener An HD sandwich.

doppelgreener

05:44

@Pixie it is!

BESW

06:12

Hmm. High Druid.

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BESW

Riding on a storm cloud; A bronze sickle; A barbarian champion; In summer light.

Adeptus

@BESW Sounds like Monkey crossed with Conan :P

BESW

Sounds like some sort of fertility ritual.

Magician

@BESW I'd think that would be spring.

BESW

06:22

Each vernal equinox, in the dying light of the summer sun, a wood of druids offers sacrifices of grain and flesh harvested with a blessed bronze sickle. But this summer, a mystical storm interrupted their ritual. In the chaos of the sudden storm a barbarian, riding the winds, stole their sickle and killed their leader.

The PCs may decide to hunt down the barbarian and return the sickle, or to steal it for their own ends, or to protect the barbarian from the druids' wrath...

Miniman

@BESW Wind-riding barbarian thief? Is that some third-party prestige class?

Magician

And they have to do it before the summer runs out, naturally.

BESW

@Magician Naturally.

@Miniman Nah, he's just got some really weird Backgrounds.

Again! Elf Queen.

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BESW

A circle of standing stones; A stag hunt; A changeling child; Under a spell.

Magician

06:37

Writes itself, this one.

Adeptus

Hunters chase a stag, it runs into a circle of standing stones, where it turns into a child. Who is obviously under a spell.

Magician

Pretty much. I wonder if BESW will subvert this one, //nudge nudge//

BESW

Recently the son of a local Lord became lost while hunting a white stag of local renown, and was forced to seek shelter in a circle of standing stones under the harvest moon. Ever since he has become increasingly distracted by bells no-one else can hear. Each night he dreams of dancing with fairies in ruinous castles, and by day white animals obey his commands.

Miniman

> I believe it would be more appropriate to comment than to post an answer, but my rep does not allow me to comment.

~~Said no useful answer ever.~~ Scratch that, I think I've seen a good answer with a similar comment once.

BESW

...I recently finished reading Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell, if you can't tell.

Adeptus

06:40

The Three looks more varied than the rest, let's see what it can come up with

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Adeptus

An alchemist’s laboratory; A cryptic letter; Something in human form; Conspiring with unlikely allies

(and I was hoping for a thing in a vat, in a coffee-house...)

BESW

@Magician Satisfactory subversion?

Magician

@BESW Not the obvious route, Adeptus and me would have gone, so yes :)

BESW

06:56

@Adeptus While tracking a serial killer, the party is led to an alchemist's laboratory where a cryptic letter reveals their quarry is a monster created by collaboration between a necromancer of the Lich King and one of the Archmage's wizards.

Prince of Shadows.

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Magician

@BESW The serial killer is, of course, the Frankenstein's monster, and the party could ally with it in the end.

BESW

A thief’s hideout; A knife in the back; One in possession of a fortune; Living large.

Magician

Well. That one's as straightforward as they come. Looking forward to your interpretation.

BESW

Well, the Prince of Shadows is all about misdirection, sleight of hand, and larger than life ambitions....

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