TRPG General Chat

Aaron

19:00

@waxeagle That is the DMG, Player book, and bestiary?

wax eagle

you can get all 3 core books for right at $100

@Aaron yes

Joshua Aslan Smith

yeah

36, 29, 31

you can really just play with the pHB

pick up the other 2 as you go

Aaron

Ok. I might get them when I get my taxes back.

Joshua Aslan Smith

PHB has a bunch of monsters and a good bit of items in it

wax eagle

really if you want to get started, you can get fully spun up with just basic

(which is free)

Aaron

19:01

I will probably take a closer look at basic and listen to some 5e podcasts of games.

wax eagle

it's very light on character options though, which makes the PHB a great first pickup

Joshua Aslan Smith

yeah Id idnt like pure basic since it leaves you with the least interesting if not least optimized version of the "core" classes in some respects

Aaron

Any recommended listens that you guys know of? I like to listen to the group play instead of read what the group did as reading doesn't really show if they had to stop and look up a rule or do some crazy calculation ect.

I know 5e shouldn't have crazy calculations though so I'm not too worried about that aspect

wax eagle

@Aaron WOTC rodney is running regular games. If you check out WOTC_DND's twitch.tv feed that's a good start

Aaron

@waxeagle Ok.

wax eagle

19:03

also there is always the aquisitions inc games

I'm not too sure of what non-WOTC produced games are out there right now though

David Wilkins

Has Acquisitions inc. done any 5e videos yet?

wax eagle

@DavidWilkins Definitely with the playtest, not 100% sure they've done final release

David Wilkins

coolbeans

Joshua Aslan Smith

@waxeagle none for the release

there is a stupid amount of people doing videos or audio only 5e podcasts though

it became a thing

wax eagle

not surprised. I've looked into doing it for our game, but IMO the tech just isn't there for what I want to do yet.

(that's not to say it isn't possible it's just not as easy as I want it to be)

@JoshuaAslanSmith they Pax 2014 games says it was done in sept 2014, should be release?

Joshua Aslan Smith

19:13

@waxeagle thats more because everyone doesnt have great mics than anything else I feel

Which I understand

because not everyone has been an online gamer for over a decade

to me its like baseline, infrastructure for a PC

I used to get compliments in grad class work groups for how clear my audio was, and Id be like, its because I have a 50 dollar head set and a mobo that is built for it.

at the same time I havent had a webcam since the 90s which a lot of other people think is crazy

Aaron

@JoshuaAslanSmith Any of the podcasts on grooveshark?

wax eagle

@JoshuaAslanSmith I'm done with webcams. if I want to cam chat (which I do semiregularly), I want to do it on a device rather than a computer

it's a big part of the reason I'm really happy with my ipad mini

(which btw, managed to break another screen on that this past week :()

(this time the blame is squarely on the 2 yr old though)

Joshua Aslan Smith

19:29

lol

I sorta might get it for telecommuting business meeting things but me seeing your face from a bad angle while talking/roleplaying generally wont help

wax eagle

walk out of the room for 2 minutes...boys briefly fighting over it. Wife brings ipad back "hey, did you know the screen is broken" "um no, it was fine five minutes ago" collective sigh

Joshua Aslan Smith

When center screen inset cameras become standard Ill use video chat

wax eagle

@JoshuaAslanSmith I use it to talk to my folks. Good way for them to get to see/interact with the kids

Joshua Aslan Smith

I mean we do skype video calls w/ the kindle to talk to holly's family at holidays

wax eagle

(thankfully ipad screens are dirt cheap)

Joshua Aslan Smith

19:31

indeed

wax eagle

yeah, I don't see using it for day to day coms anytime soon

Joshua Aslan Smith

@aaron any reason you are looking for audio playthroughs though? I mean it sounds like D&D mechanically

wax eagle

and I've gotten pretty good at microelectronics repairs over the past few months :(

Joshua Aslan Smith

Inspiration and by extension advantage are the only big changes

tied into that is the flaws, traits, bonds, and ideals system to lend more character tie-in with the mechanical system

but beyond that the actual play of the game (vs optimization and character building and encounter building) woudl sound extremely similar to a 3.5 or PF game of course with changes for different DMs/player groups of course.

The biggest thing I would say is unlearning what you have learned with regards to D&D

as many things are dropped or made accessible only through feats or have the same name but function very differently

Aaron

@JoshuaAslanSmith Cause I can listen to them at work XD

Joshua Aslan Smith

19:36

which I get

Im just saying as an experienced RPG player and D&D system utilizer (pathfinder) you might not actually get that much out of it vs if you were trying to learn Fate or Dungeon World as they funtion very diffferntly.

Aaron

I'm not expecting to learn a lot but it could give me a small idea of the differences.

Joshua Aslan Smith

gotcha

Aaron

I think I just found all of the lord of the rings books on grooveshark

Joshua Aslan Smith

nice

Aaron

The guys profile is rob inglis

Joshua Aslan Smith

19:44

there was a good audio book read by ian holm (bilbo in the movies)

JohnP

19:58

@waxeagle That's what we do on google hangouts with my folks, so they get to see the boy on a regular basis.

wax eagle

yeah, works out well

David Wilkins

20:11

Why does the chat history show times in GMT, but live chat shows times in my timezone

I nearly had a brainquake when I was re-reading my history

JohnP

@DavidWilkins Chat history goes off of time stamped logs, and everything in SE is calculated GMT. Makes it odd figuring out when to log in if going for Enthusiast/Fanatic badges.

Live chat it calculates for convenience.

David Wilkins

Also, why are there two dead tags on the sidebar..."pen-and-paper" and "tables"

I'm bored. Sorry :p

JohnP

dangit. Now I have jolly rancher stuck in my teeth :(

David Wilkins

You really shouldn't chew those, especially if you have dental fillings

JohnP

It's one of the sticks, I was trying to just snap off a piece.

Aaron

20:25

sticks?

JohnP

Yeah, wider, longer and flatter than the traditional. Probably about same amount of substance, but flattened out.

Joshua Aslan Smith

@johnp feature request for a local time stamp option when viewing logs might be worth mosting on SO meta

The Oracle

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Q: Is there a way to remove dead tags from the Main Chat room tags?

the tables and pen-and-paper tags appear in the list of room tags for the main chat, but they are dead links because those tags don't currently exist. Can they be changed, or are we stuck with them?

BESW

21:10

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A: Is there a way to remove dead tags from the Main Chat room tags?

Some of those tags never existed on the main site. They're up there as a clue to new users what our chat is really about. We've got one of the most active chat on the Stack. This means that people from any Stack Exchange site, when they look for chat rooms, will see ours near the top. We semi-re...

Joshua Aslan Smith

@besw yoz

BESW

Hey.

Joshua Aslan Smith

so do you know the correct pronunciation of yaun-ti/

BESW

Hmm. Let me double-check my sources.

Okay, so there doesn't seem to be a really definitive answer.

I prefer yawn-TEE, but with the "yawn" part drawn out a bit into something almost like a two-tone syllable.

Yawn-tee in some inflection is supported by, among other things, Neverwinter Nights.

However, at least one Wizards employee is on the record saying it's yoo-awn-tee (inflection unknown).

I conclude that that name is not easily pronounceable by humanoid tongues.

And then, amusingly, there's this.

Aaron

@BESW HEhehe. The third one sounds funny

BESW

21:27

I'm reminded of how Ask Lovecraft pronounces "Nyarlathotep."

Aaron

@BESW Oh god the third one trying to pronounce that word sounds demonic or something. Nyarlathotep

Joshua Aslan Smith

@besw that covers what both I and @waxeagle suggested earlier

Aaron

gnight

BESW

@Aaron I feel the name should be pronounced as if it were something run backwards through a tape player.

doppelgreener

21:44

@BESW how does Ask Lovecraft pronounce Nyarlathotep?

BESW

I couldn't quickly track down a link.

doppelgreener

I have just added Lovecraft and Nyarlathotep to my phone's dictionary, and feel as though it is now a matter of time until it begins sprouting tendrils.

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BESW

Just don't add Hastur three times.

doppelgreener

Don't worry I can only add it once.

Except that it might require me to add Hastur separately with an uppercase and lowercase H... And then there's the time I'll accidentally write that with an uppercase A and it'll add that too....

I'm doomed!

BESW

Wait, I know where I can find it!

[digs]

David Wilkins

21:56

Ghost town here in downtown Portland

All of the snow

Miniman

Way late to weigh in, but I've always pronounced it "ywan-ti".

BESW

►

JohnP

Hastur? Hastur who?

David Wilkins

How about eee juan tee

JohnP

22:12

On a side note, there is a heavy metal band with a decided D&D type theme called "Necrogoblicon"

Anaphory

I prefer to write that stuff in IPA: [juʌn'tiː] (that's how I read it as German, and it still makes sense to me as pronounciation)

David Wilkins

I I think "you-AWN--tee" feels the most natural, but have no idea how to put that in IPA

Anaphory

[ju'ɔntiː]? Or how do you pronounce awn?

David Wilkins

Should be more "on" than "awn"

JohnP

"ahn"

Anaphory

22:21

@DavidWilkins Actually, that's what I did with [ju'ɔntiː], otherwise the /ɔ/ would be long: [ju'ɔːntiː] (maybe there's still other differences, in backness or something)

JohnP

flatter sound than awn

David Wilkins

yes. Thanks @JohnP

BESW

I think it's useful to remember the linguistic and cultural context of the original creators: they were building mostly on American pop culture references.

Anaphory

That's the ʌ

BESW

So spellings should be taken as American-style transliterations.

Anaphory

22:22

That's why a stress on the second syllable doesn't make sense to me.

Miniman

So someone posted this question, then 3 minutes later someone posted this question, but I can't VTC.

David Wilkins

thats almost the phonetic pronunciation

Anaphory

“Stress at the beginning a word, and I'm giving you an new word start, look, with the hyphen!”

David Wilkins

That makes sense @Anaphory. "YOU-ahn.-tee"?

doppelgreener

@BESW dang, that is great.

and i get that played-backward-through-a-tape thing you mean now :)

David Wilkins

22:26

? "Eat now"

doppelgreener

@BESW so, yoo-ahn-tee?

(personally I always pronounced it YOO-ahn-TEE)

BESW

@doppelgreener No, American pronunciations rarely separate out adjacent vowels.

If I was going to be aggressively American, it'd be Yawnty.

doppelgreener

but... but...

I don't understand how yuan turns into yawn

David Wilkins

Lolol

doppelgreener

there's two vowels there!

i could understand yaun into yawn

Anaphory

22:28

Same here.

BESW

Same way Juan rhymes with yawn.

Anaphory

Ow, does it? Really? Ow.

David Wilkins

Stretchy

Anaphory

It's weird enough that Sean rhymes with yawn. But Juan?

Miniman

Isn't Juan pronounced ywan?

BESW

22:30

Spanish heritage on that one: it's pronounced HWawn.

David Wilkins

Wan is how I pronounce juan

But yes in spanish it is closer to hwahn

Anaphory

[xʊ'ʌn]?

BESW

However, if yuan-ti is drawing from the Chinese, it's Yoo-ann.

Anaphory

It looks at least as if it was supposed to invoke such a heritage.

Because of the -ua- weirdness.

meme scientist

Have you guys seen this yet?

reddit.com/r/Games/comments/2ufsrt/…

doppelgreener

22:34

@BESW ok, sure, but then that's another language's pronunciation rules applying, not American English pronunciation.

BESW

@doppelgreener You may have forgotten that English is mostly a collection of other languages' conventions. We have no solid idea what the yuan-ti are intended to evoke, so it's all purely speculative.

@memescientist Back when I ran map-and-mini style systems, I hungered for a setup like that. Though back projection from a device beneath the table is another option.

DuckTapeAl

Is there a way to get an accurate timestamp from when a question was posted?

BESW

@DuckTapeAl Check out the revisions.

DuckTapeAl

And if there are no edits on the question?

JohnP

@memescientist That's badazz.

I wants

BESW

22:39

@DuckTapeAl http://rpg.stackexchange.com/posts/ question code number /revisions

So you want http://rpg.stackexchange.com/posts/56203/revisions

DuckTapeAl

Sweet. Thaks!

Hmm. That's giving me the "27 minutes ago" thing, but not an actual time.

JohnP

So...you both posted the same question, and you both posted basically the same answer... so what is the debate?

BESW

And his is registering 3 minutes after yours. Consistently.

DuckTapeAl

I posted the opposite answer.

BESW

Which matches this:

19 mins ago, by Miniman

So someone posted this question, then 3 minutes later someone posted this question, but I can't VTC.

DuckTapeAl

22:43

Oh, duh. I think I'm having a stupid day. I thought that, since his "posted X minutes ago" thing had a lower number than mine, that his question was posted before mine.

Lol.

Oh well.

doppelgreener

@BESW Sure, but it has conventions of its own. In Australian English I'd pronounce it 'yoo-ahn', I'm just trying to wrap my head around why in American English it would be pronounced 'yawn'.

I do understand it could be intended to be pronounced any number of ways, including the Spanish way, though I'm not trying to understand Spanish pronunciation. ;)

JohnP

@DuckTapeAl I answered. You're right on the hardness applies, it's just a bit of ambiguity in the interpretation of the English.

DuckTapeAl

@BESW Are you sure that'd be pronounced "yawn"? I've only ever heard that word pronounced "yoo-ahn" or "yoo-ann".

Ooh, looks like there was a note about that question in the FAQ.

doppelgreener

@DuckTapeAl which question, the pronunciation?

JohnP

@doppelgreener No, the hardness

DuckTapeAl

22:55

The hardness question.

doppelgreener

23:13

You're a hardness question!

Adeptus

23:43

Random thought... In subtitles, they often end a sentence with a bracketed exclamation mark to show something is said sarcastically. It'd be great if this was more widely adopted in text-based communication.

BESW

That's an awful idea (!)

Anaphory

It would be a shame if we could suddenly use irony in text communication (!)

Where would all the arguments be for which we love the Internetz and which we so highly miss here on stackexchange (!)

(I mean, apart from people just being generally better at deescalating in face-to-face communication than in far-distance impersonal text-only.)

Shalvenay

@Adeptus -- yeah, that sounds helpful xD

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