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BESW

00:52

@waxeagle BTW, the main character in Attack the Block is cast for Star Wars VII.

wax eagle

01:48

interesting

BESW

02:09

@waxeagle Just finished it, and I gotta say I hope more films take a lot of cues from it.

trogdor

that whole "spores on the solar wind" thing is interesting

it almost seems like a partially obscure reference to Star Control 2

BESW

Doctor Who has done it a few times, as have several science fiction authors over the decades.

I really like the character design for the aliens.

trogdor

huge black furballs with blue glowing mouths with blue glowing teeth in them?

actually, they have arms like gorillas, but obviously not complete gorilla bodies

@BESW anyway my point was, these guys could have actually been in Star Control II, or more acurately, be something hinted at existing in it

BESW

Just the teeth glow, and their fur isn't just black--it doesn't reflect light at all.

So they're spiky silhouettes; the film can show them full-body and still have them be mysterious and creepy.

trogdor

if you get the main villain race to talk to you enough, part of their justification for what they are doing includes "alien pestilence and disease borne on the solar wind"

BESW

02:23

And they don't have eyes, but when they close their mouths the teeth look like eyes.

trogdor

well they could have eyes under all the fur couldn't they?

BESW

They're explicitly blind and use echolocation and smell to navigate.

trogdor

ah ok

BESW

02:59

[squint] "Your character must be a loner for a reason... Brooding characters have a history of being confronted with social interactions in which they got the short end of the stick."

[cough] WRONG. a) the question isn't about brooding. b) since when does anyone need a traumatic event to justify a personality trait? That's just overexposure to lazy writing.

BESW

03:22

Grubermensch

03:46

@BESW "must be a loner for a reason" doesn't mean that reason has to be a singular traumatic event. It could be the whole of his childhood shaped him into a loner. I think you might be projecting your displeasure at lazy writing into this.

BESW

Same smell. Some people are quiet. You don't need a reason.

Metool

Mind over matter. Ignore the pain. [peruses Lord_Gareth and co.'s psionic bestiary]

BESW

Sometimes there is a reason. But the idea that someone with a non-"normal" way of interacting with people needs a reason is silly.

Grubermensch

(tangentially: I have just discovered that it is possible to edit a chat message after it is deleted, but this edit remains shrouded under the delete, uselessly. Time for a Meta.SE post!)

BESW

@Grubermensch Well whaddaya know. [marvels]

Grubermensch

03:52

@BESW I think it is important to figure out more of the nature of the quietness though. "Quiet people" aren't usually quiet under all circumstances. This scoping falls under what I would consider "reasons".

BESW

Aye. If they elaborated on that I'd be cool with it.

But instead they immediately followed up with the whole "brooding" thing.

Grubermensch

Yeah that line is inideal, as it suggests a narrow view of what quiet people are.

BESW

In that context, I'm disinclined to give the rest of the answer the benefit of the doubt where it could be read broadly or narrowly.

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trogdor

07:54

as a relatively quiet person myself, I would say we are not all brooding people

and yeah under certain circumstances I am indeed much less quiet

9 hours later…

Zachiel

17:01

Right when I was thinking why my character wants to do the things we discussed with Brian

Oh, 15 hours ago? Maybe not right when, then

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Joshua Aslan Smith

19:10

CLOSE VOTES!

Q: Is my DM being fair?

Me & some friends recently started playing 4e & none of us had played anything like it before. However, recently, the guy who was DM-ing at the time (we're taking turns to see who enjoys it/is good at it) killed two of us in one encounter right after an extended rest. He said that is was all cal...

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RedRiderX

19:26

@dampes8n Guess what! I'm not dead! I'll see if I can get a FF style Inn background done today

Also, I realized the hair highlights for the avatar I made were stupid and attempted to fix them somewhat: imgur.com/a/mChPP

I might also try to make more of an "action" pose in the future.

I also might take a second look at the shading on those slimes

But first, a background!

2 hours later…

DampeS8N

21:35

@RedRiderX Cool. I look forward to what you come up with! :)

Metool

Hmm, I thought I'd like to see comment downvotes for those times when a comment is rendered invalid by a response but then realized I can just flag as obsolete or not constructive...

BESW

@Metool Now if only that worked for the irrelephant and misunderstood 24-vote comment on my second-highest-voted answer.

RedRiderX

Current progress:

Shading is still pretty basic, but that's the general idea

I think I'm running into the brown problem again :P

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX It'll happen just as long as you keep desiring brown. So much brown in the world. :P NES Palette makes you consider lighting so brown looks purple or red or green.

RedRiderX

Hmm yeah I might try with red

DampeS8N

21:44

Question, is that the floor or a wainscoting?

RedRiderX

Probably wainscoting

I'm trying to stick to a FF style background

Using this for some inspiration:

Why trying to keep it interesting

Grubermensch

@RedRiderX you probably need a floor given how the scene is laid out

DampeS8N

@Grubermensch That's my concern

RedRiderX

@Grubermensch True, though FF avoided it:

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX I suspect that was for technical limitations

RedRiderX

21:47

@DampeS8N True, but so was the NES palette

How will the background show up in Level Up?

Grubermensch

There is some issue that perspective on the floor is going to be difficult to convey with the resolution limitations

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX Behind (layered under) the battle sprites. Replacing the gray currently there.

As it is now

I'm open to alternatives if you think something won't work.

RedRiderX

@DampeS8N Ah okay

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX Once they have the option they went right for showing the floor.

RedRiderX

True but the screen was taller than what we have here

But let me try something...

DampeS8N

21:51

@RedRiderX Try with what's there, if you can't make it work and look good lets break it down and go ahead and build out a mock up of your ideal.

If what is there won't work, we'll replace it with what will work. :)

RedRiderX

It will probably work, honestly.

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX I'm happy when you're happy. :)

RedRiderX

And I'm happy when you're happy!

RedRiderX

22:09

Still needs polish and repeatablity, but that's the general idea for the floor

RedRiderX

22:24

Well, looks like I won't have time to finish it today, I should be done it this week though

Be sure to let me know you have any criticism.

BESW

23:19

@RedRiderX I think The Winter Soldier didn't give Rogers enough opportunities to display his leadership and tactical skills. ...oh, you meant of your art. I'm not sure you need all those cobblestones; they make the floor excessively busy compared to the wall. You only need just enough stones to give the impression of a cobbled walkway.

Joshua Aslan Smith

Hello

BESW

[wave]

What is, in the parlance of the young, "up"?

Joshua Aslan Smith

that just made me think of this

trying to get my wife to make a D&D character since she'll be coming to the game shop this week because roller derby has its summer break

she is not acquiescing

wanting to help both of the low quality 4e posts from today and yesterday but they are so bad that voting to close seems like the only option unless they edit and improve the questions

Grubermensch

@RedRiderX If the stones increased ever so slightly in size as they neared the bottom, this would increase the sense of depth in the room. And I agree with @BESW that you don't need that many cobblestones.

@JoshuaAslanSmith Has your wife played before?

Joshua Aslan Smith

D&D, yes

she was a regular player when we played 4e together and I believe shes played next once or twice

Grubermensch

23:33

Hmm. Well sometimes it is fun to just watch. Perhaps she's not in the zone to game right now.

Joshua Aslan Smith

just not in the zone to roll up a character