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DampeS8N

20:28

@RedRiderX I'm liking where this is headed!

RedRiderX

Heh

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX Scale does seem right.

RedRiderX

Current state

The NES color palette is so racist

Barely anything but lighter flesh tones

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX Yes, it is. Be glad there were any flesh tones. They could have always added more blues. lol

RedRiderX

Heh

DampeS8N

20:32

@RedRiderX No one apparently needs yellow or orange. And there doesn't need to be more than 2 browns. But why not have 15 blues?

RedRiderX

Gotta get those waves nice and smooth!

DampeS8N

But I think that the terrible palette leads to really creative problem solving and interesting coloration choices because realistic isn't always an option. I think that's why so many NES games managed to have really great aesthetics.

RedRiderX

@DampeS8N Very true

Also 5 blacks

Just.... why?

Did they run out of color power or something?

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX They just gave up. The couldn't think of any more colors.

And you wish it was 5. It is 9 blacks, and one dark grey that is almost black

RedRiderX

Oh my GIMP palette must not be properly representing the excess of black contained in the palette then.

DampeS8N

20:36

And technically, there is a 12 color maximum for sprites.

List of video game console palettes

:::For a full listing of computer's color palettes, see List of color palettes This is a list of the full color palettes for notable video game console hardware. For color palettes of early 8-bit personal computers, see the List of 8-bit computer hardware palettes article. For color palettes of 16-bit personal computers, see the List of 16-bit computer hardware palettes article. For current RGB display systems for 32-bit and better PCs (Super VGA, etc.), see the 16-bit RGB for HighColor (thousands) and 24-bit RGB for TrueColor (millions of colors) modes. For various software arrangemen...

RedRiderX

Forget that

Though I may stick to it anyway

At a certain point more colors just add confusion to the sprite.

DampeS8N

All I care about is using the colors. Those hues are burned into my mind as oldschool RPG colors/

However, the technical details about how the NES worked are great to read about. There are so many wizard level hacks used. It is amazing the games worked at all.

RedRiderX

Even trying to debug a program on the NES sounds like a near impossibility to me.

But I don't do embedded programming.

I think we're getting where we want to be

The brown looks too brown though :-/

DampeS8N

20:52

@RedRiderX Try one of the other...ooohh right..

RedRiderX

Hah

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX I've seen people use 7 maroon before for brown, matching it next to greens to trick the eye, maybe a green shirt and brown/maroon mix?

Same with the 6 line of red/oranges

RedRiderX

21:07

@DampeS8N Hmm

Might try the blue-green trick next.

Oh wait that would mean changing the hair color too...

I think

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX Your call, but I don't dislike it as it is.

RedRiderX

It could be something I use in future outfits.

I like the idea

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX And I did want the first avatar to be gender neutral. But I like the beardyface.

RedRiderX

Ah true

I could change the head

How about that?

DampeS8N

Yes, let's make it a bit more neutral somehow and I think we are there.

pecks-that-could-be-small-breasts?

RedRiderX

21:18

Hmm it's currently flat-chested, but let me try it...

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX once we have the character editor version we'll be able to offer body types in the full range of fat/thin busty/pecky/flat strong/nimble

RedRiderX

@DampeS8N Good point

DampeS8N

So this first guy being the most average possible is fine with me.

RedRiderX

I'd like to try and do it with mostly shading but there would have to be more than one brown :P

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX Try bright pink, that's sorta brown

RedRiderX

21:24

Pretty hamfisted I realize

@DampeS8N Oh

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX lower the boob a pixel

RedRiderX

I'm not sure any pink will work with the brown I chose.

DampeS8N

Saggy smaller breasts mimic the silhouette of perky pecks.

RedRiderX

Sort of painted myself into a corner with that one.

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX Gods, I was kidding

RedRiderX

21:27

I have to consider all options with this palette!

DampeS8N

Actually...

RedRiderX

I could use a more orange brown.

DampeS8N

Ok, there is hot pick, right above it is a dark pinky maroon

try that in the spot above the peck

1 pixel

if it looks wrong, swap that color for the maroon you are using and try one dot of the maroon

RedRiderX

Yeah no

Let me try the other one

DampeS8N

Not the purple

One color over toward red, and also one pixel to the right

I think you will need to swap the maroon and that new color tho, it feels like it sits between the two reds you are currently using.

So the dark maroon will feel, in that spot, like it is half red and half brown

RedRiderX

21:31

Oh wait I still need to...

DampeS8N

I'm poking at it in PS

RedRiderX

More what you were thinking?

DampeS8N

3 pixels

over and under peck and in the armpit of the right arm

You can also use that maroon now as a brown

sparingly

RedRiderX

@DampeS8N Good point

DampeS8N

probably using it more as brown will reinforce the eye to accept it as brown

Like the whole thing is under a kind of reddish light

This is where that magic NES palette crucible thing happens. :)

RedRiderX

21:41

Heh true

Too much or not enough?

Could use it as a color variation too.

RedRiderX

22:03

Now I'm not sure which one to use!

Heck, why not both!

RedRiderX

22:21

@DampeS8N If you're okay with how they turned out, here's the package: imgur.com/a/yvjuv#0

Let me know if you want me to export seperate images for each layer.

BESW

@trogdor If/when you guys find an intact Atlantean building, I'm tempted to have Masters crash the Amazing into it.

RedRiderX

It sounds like I've fallen into an amazing story halfway through.

BESW

@RedRiderX Can't remember, do you have a Storium account?

RedRiderX

No haven't heard of it before.

BESW

22:37

It's an online browser-based narrative RPG engine.

RedRiderX

Oh cool

Hmm, the card mechanics seem neat.

BESW

Right now it's in a semi-closed beta, with public launch in the fall. I could send you an invite to make a free player-only account so you can look around and join games, with a $10 upgrade to be able to run your own games.

I don't really feel like either of my games have openings for more players right now, though.

RedRiderX

Oh no that's fine.

I'm not sure I have time to commit to a game right now anyway.

BESW

Would you like a no-commitment invite just to look around?

RedRiderX

Oh sure if it's no trouble.

BESW

22:41

You can observe any game the narrator's set to "public." (Both of mine are.)

RedRiderX

Should I give you an email?

BESW

Should I use the email on your website?

RedRiderX

Yeah that should be fine.

BESW

Sent. You should get an email soon, or you can just click on this link.

RedRiderX

Cool thanks!

BESW

22:45

This is the game with crashing into Atlantean buildings, and I'm also running a slightly more serious game about elves colonising an island with a terrible history.

Whoops, suddenly shopping. ttfn, enjoy!

RedRiderX

Oh they even have a out of character commentary box.

@BESW Thanks again!

1 hour later…

DampeS8N

23:47

@RedRiderX These are great! Give me both as single files, not broken into parts. I am thinking I'm gonna use the redhead right now.

RedRiderX

23:58

2 hours ago, by RedRiderX

@DampeS8N If you're okay with how they turned out, here's the package: http://imgur.com/a/yvjuv#0

DampeS8N

@RedRiderX danke

RedRiderX

Not sure when I'll get to the Inn background, but I'll keep you posted

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