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Boris_yo

20:20

@Luke Is your name USB? Because I'm feeling a connection.

allquixotic

@Boris_yo Bad analogy. USB turns itself off.

Boris_yo

@allquixotic You are one active lurker.

@Hennes I guess I need to speak english natively to understand this joke?

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Hi. Mind if I ask a few basic networking questions here? I felt ServerFault wouldn't be right as this isn't enterprise-level.

Hennes

No, since I am not a native English speaker.

You can ask, butif it is too basic I got a bookmark to SF's networking 101

Boris_yo

@ObsessiveSSOℲ I personally have very small xp in networking just FIY

@Hennes What is your native language?

Hennes

20:26

Dutch

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I have an odd little situation. I have a 10Mbit/2Mbit network on one interface and a 5/5 on another. I'd like to have incoming connections to a small server I run come in through the 5/5 but outbound to go through the 10/2. Is pointing inbound requests to the 5/5 via DNS and setting a high metric for that inferface enough?

Boris_yo

@Hennes Just like Oliver's?

Hennes

No, he is German. Next door country

Boris_yo

@Hennes Saw Prometheus?

Hennes

Inbound connections as in:
remote users ----- via5/5------> your server ------> via 5/5 ----> answers

and
Connection initiated from your servers --> 10/2 ---->

@Boris_yo Nope. I am still catching up on other things. Such as Dr. Who

ObsessiveSSOℲ

20:29

Actually a home server/computer. For gaming.

Boris_yo

@Hennes It will only disappoint. Ridley Scott is not as he was once.

Hennes

Who is Ridley Scott ?

Boris_yo

@Hennes I can watch Gladiator over and over. He is producer.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

I'm concerned UDP packets(that don't follow a stream) would head back across the 10/2, which would cause problems as the client would reject them/

TCP I hope would handle the routing.

Hennes

The routing does not need to be a problem. But if the other interface has a different IP things might get interesting

ObsessiveSSOℲ

20:32

Though if the server only binds to the 5/5 it can't send via the 10/2 outbound? Or is that wrong as well?

Hennes

Interesting enough that I never tried it.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

These are two different ISPs, unfortunately.

To add to the rigmarole, the 10/2 is IPv6-ready.

OK, well I'll try it...

Could you give me the link to the sf networking 101 you mentioned?

Hennes

201

Q: How does IPv4 Subnetting Work?

This is a Canonical Question about IPv4 Subnets. Related: How does IPv6 subnetting work and how does it differ from IPv4 subnetting? How does Subnetting Work, and How do you do it by hand or in your head? Can someone explain both conceptually and with several examples? Serve...

But I think you already know what is in it

I usually use that link when people ask really stupid questions. This one was not stupid.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Should I ask in SF? Or on SU main?

Hennes

Heck, one you said 'bind to an IP' you did better than 99% of Super User's netowking questions.

SF is purely professional.

Though I think they may have the better answers to this one.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

20:37

OK, I'll ask here. Worst case, it gets migrated

Hennes

And SF chat can be very helpful if you ask the right way.

ObsessiveSSOℲ

Ah, thanks for the heads-up!

allquixotic

20:55

@ObsessiveSSOℲ something like this would have to be done via layer 4 or above routing, on a packet by packet basis using a stateful firewall or such, and you are right that since UDP is unidirectional and has no concept of "socket" / "stream", you wouldn't be able to tell which packets are truly outbound and which are just responding to an ongoing conversation that started as an inbound.

setting the metric high will just get the 5/5 being used for everything, even for web surfing which is clearly outbound traffic

also if you want to use protocols that are not based on either TCP or UDP, you'd have to reinvent how to route each one of those protocols as well

things like ICMP and GRE. which can be problematic because gaming in particular can rely on ICMP for various tasks

Luke

21:38

@Boris_yo ;)

studiohack

22:24

@Luke hahahaha, that is expensive

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Meds

23:31

Hello

allquixotic

olleH

Luke

Ehlo

Meds

(: I have 6 PC at home and I'm looking for a program that will provide me the ability to do multiple and similar operations like visiting a website, executing the same program, uploading the same file to all those six computers that are on Windows. Maybe something pretty much like a RAT ? But which one ? Maybe something else ?

allquixotic

@Meds if they all have the same screen size, resolution, keyboard shortcuts, programs installed, OS version, screen DPI, and mouse sensitivity settings, you could possibly use a device that repeats your keyboard/mouse signals across multiple USB ports... I know they exist but I don't know what they're called

uploading a file to all the computers is a different task though unless you have a program running on each computer that you use to download the file

maybe if you better explain your use case

Meds

Yes... That's why I'll opt for something like a R.A.T, to be simple let's say I want to shut down all these computers at the same time, with something like DarkComet it will be easy, in fact, I'm afraid of using these tools I read that they were backdoored, maybe if someone could suggest me a good R.A.T for legal purposes

@allquixotic Thank you

it would be great

soandos

23:47

@Meds how about powershell?

Meds

@soandos I'm a total beginner I don't know that I'll take a look

thank you

allquixotic

@Meds R.A.T.?

soandos

Its a scripting language for windows management

allquixotic

...oh. news to me

Meds

Remote administration tools

soandos

23:48

@allquixotic he means remote access something. Its a tool used to spy on people and mess with them

Meds

@soandos Is it working with Win XP ?

soandos

arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2013/03/…

Meds

I forgot to say that they're all on Win xp..

soandos

@Meds yes

though you have to download it

allquixotic

if you have a finite number of actions you want to run through, you can get something like AutoHotkey or WinAutomation (AHK is free; WinAutomation is not, but WinAutomation is much easier to use) ... the real key though is that you need some kind of network protocol for this

on a LAN at least, it'd be pretty easy to write software in almost any language that could support this, so I'd be a little surprised if at least the infrastructure for this didn't already exist

Meds

23:52

@soandos I'll see what can PowerShell provide

I already have AHK and 500 lines of shurtcuts and some stuffs lol here in France DarkComet which is a RAT is really famous for Spying people, I would really like something similar to this, without having the feeling of being spied by the program's author and some young french boys like me haha, many people says that it is backdoored... That's why I'm affraid of using it see some features
Look @ this http://imageshack.us/m/4/1598/unledgb.png