Root Access

Ben Richards

18:04

@JourneymanGeek I did the o-ring mod on my keyboard at work. I think I like it this way. Didn't like the sound of bottoming out, anyway.

It does make the keys feel slightly mushier, but it's not once you break them in (press the keys a few times to push the o-ring all the way on).

Luke

18:30

I am NEVER shipping Purolator again!

Almost $100 to RMA a router, cause they like bilking me

Extra $10 for "missing account number", extra $0.95 for "manual waybill" (cause I wrote one out instead of using their website), and 70 bucks for delivery "express" for "13.38 LBs"? The router was in a tiny 1 cu ft box, weighed less then 2 pounds (as written on the BOL)... Grrr they piss me off

ruda.almeida

18:53

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Oliver Salzburg

19:11

@ruda.almeida Nooooo

Ben Richards

Ben Richards

19:42

Did someone on here at some point ask if Internet Explorer had an addons/extensions store? I remember seeing something along those lines somewhere, but I don't know where.

iegallery.com

allquixotic

20:09

@BenRichards do any of them work in Modern UI version of IE? I use that several hours per week (whenever I'm on my Surface Pro in tablet mode)

have yet to find a usable Modern UI browser that isn't IE

Ben Richards

@allquixotic I think that the Metro version of IE doesn't support any extensions whatsoever. Though setting things like Tracking Protection will carry over, I believe.

@allquixotic I'm holding out for Firefox. Their Metro UI is pretty slick. It's just still in the works. You need to get the Nightly build to use it at all.

I'm in the same boat, though.

Is Bing not showing any web search results for anyone else?

Oliver Salzburg

20:24

Works(tm)

Ben Richards

Don't work for me. :|

Google does though!

Oliver Salzburg

Might be a regional issue then

Ben Richards

Maybe

soandos

@BenRichards I have the same issue

Ben Richards

@soandos Strange.

soandos

20:32

Yup. and its not just SU

Ben Richards

Yeah, I was trying to do a search for something else. Don't remember.

But it wasn't working.

I just tweeted @bing. Wonder if they'll get back to me.

allquixotic

@BenRichards good way to tell is to see how active their account is and whether they tend to tweet back to people

some twitter accounts are write-only, and the company just uses it as a way to get info out there; other twitter accounts have actual people behind them

Ben Richards

@allquixotic I know. Figured I'd throw it out there

And it's back again

tapped-out

20:54

facepalm

superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/118418

Breakthrough

@tapped-out I just saw that :\

I have a strange feeling that superuser.com/users/229823/computer-god-wannabe and superuser.com/users/229836/blah-im-good-like-that are the same person.

Oliver Salzburg

@Breakthrough Thanks for the heads-up

You're probably right btw ;P

Breakthrough

@OliverSalzburg thanks for the response... I just had a strange feeling is all :)

Oliver Salzburg

Not much I can do about it though

allquixotic

SALZBURG

it's like midnight there

Oliver Salzburg

21:04

That's me!

allquixotic

wat r u doin up

Breakthrough

@OliverSalzburg no worries, I think the person has stopped anyways :D

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic It's only 11pm here

allquixotic

@OliverSalzburg AM?!?

Oliver Salzburg

And it's Friday evening, so, obviously, I'm computering

allquixotic

21:05

you probably mean PM

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic Yeah, I did

Ben Richards

So... mods can't see IP addresses associated with answers/comments/edits/etc on here, then?

allquixotic

you can go all 24-hour on me though, I can deal

Oliver Salzburg

@BenRichards We can see the IP address of users

@allquixotic Ok, cool :D

Ben Richards

Ah

allquixotic

21:07

it's raining and winding outside :D

Oliver Salzburg

Do you guys think I should move superuser.com/questions/604953/… to SO? There are already 3 close votes

I thought it would be fine for our site

Ben Richards

I thought so too

Breakthrough

@OliverSalzburg I voted to leave it open

Oliver Salzburg

@Breakthrough Ok, cool. Then I won't do anything

Breakthrough

I was more surprised than anything that you could build a C# proj without Visual Studio, but I guess it makes sense given you need the .NET runtime (or Mono) to run the app anyways :D

Oliver Salzburg

21:13

@Breakthrough I was surprised as well. Found out about it through some SO question that mentioned that csc.exe was part of the .NET Framwork

Ben Richards

@Breakthrough Do you mean Visual Studio as in the GUI application, or Visual Studio as in the toolset? You can build applications completely from the command line as they have cli tools for everything (in fact, I bet Visual Studio just calls those under the hood).

Oliver Salzburg

I knew that MSBuild could handle compilation of whole projects, but I had only used it in connection with Visual Studio installations

allquixotic

You have one gram of oleic acid, three kleenexes dunked in oil, and a graphing calculator, but Mars hasn't been hit by a meteor for more than three Martian days. Therefore it will take you ____ minutes to get from Saratoga to Houston if you're carrying a box of blank shotgun shells in a backpack on your back and one sheet of paper weighs 6 tons.

tapped-out

sounds like a high school physics test question

Breakthrough

@BenRichards I was referencing @OliverSalzburg 's question, but I think I recall using those CLI utilities you mention before

Ben Richards

21:15

@allquixotic It's not answerable in its current form. There's not enough information provided.

Aha

Breakthrough

I recall building OpenCV on Windows and it used cmake and a Visual Studio command prompt...

allquixotic

@BenRichards just the "Full" .NET Framework package itself, as long as it's not the Client Profile, is sufficient to compile .NET programs

Ben Richards

Well, given that .NET is supposed to be cross-platform, I'm sure there's something out there :P

Breakthrough

Although I was so confused at first because none of the binaries were in my %PATH% because I didn't know there was a special shortcut to launch the VS Command Prompt :P

Ben Richards

nod

allquixotic

21:16

even if you have just the client profile and no admin rights you could use mono :D

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic That question actually came up in the comments to the question I posted above

Ben Richards

@Breakthrough Yeah, that's a batch file, I think

Breakthrough

Ah just exports the additional paths when launching the cmd prompt I guess?

I'll check that out when I get home, I'm on a Linux machine right now, ty for the heads up

Ben Richards

mono is an unfortunate naming choice. It keeps reminding me of Infectious Mononucleosis.

Oliver Salzburg

lol

Ben Richards

21:18

Not a happy association.

Oliver Salzburg

I love mono though, have been using it for previous .NET-on-Linux projects

Ben Richards

Never used it

And I almost thought you meant that you love the disease :P

Oliver Salzburg

It combines two of the things I think are great, .NET and Linux OS :D

Ben Richards

:P

Linux is fantastic. It's a developer's playground. :)

Breakthrough

Also for those who like Python, check out IronPython

Oliver Salzburg

21:19

@BenRichards lol, that's why I put it in ``

Ben Richards

Yup :)

Breakthrough

It "compiles" Python to CLR

And also doesn't have a GIL which is a big downside of CPython IMHO :( (although you can try PyPy if you want a fast interpreter :)

Ben Richards

Aha

I'm afraid that most of my Windows development experience is with win32

I find myself either doing Cygwin or Linux. :P

Though I'm trying to get more into Windows dev.

Oliver Salzburg

Using C# was really the most pleasant development experience I ever had, which is why it's my language of choice. I can only recommend it. The only sad thing about it is that you'll have to rely on mono to get it running on non-Windows OS

Ben Richards

I messed with C# briefly before college. I really should try it out again.

My problem is that coming up with a project to work on and sticking with it is difficult :P

You can't really mess around programming quite so easily as you can mess around on an instrument or with gaming. You need a goal. :P

Oliver Salzburg

21:28

I agree

Ben Richards

I lack inspiration, I guess.

It's easier at work since it's given to me, or I get inspired by being annoyed at our current toolset, so I build a better one.

Oliver Salzburg

My first C# project was also the largest software project I ever took part in.

Ben Richards

I tend to accumulate elaborate shell and perl scripts for a lot of things :P

Aha

Oliver Salzburg

I just thought "Hey, why not?"

Ben Richards

Making a game is an easy idea but I don't really get motivated to mess with 3D modeling or even animation.

Oliver Salzburg

21:30

It worked out great, except for the fact that there are some modules with old, "ugly" code and modules with the code I wrote a year later :D

Ben Richards

I can do it a little but everything I do will be procedural. That's why Tetris is an easy go-to game to make :P

Aha

Oliver Salzburg

I prefer procedural stuff as well. Coding stuff like bone-based animation for meshes is boring.

Ben Richards

Yeah

Oliver Salzburg

But it always depends on the goal

If you want to do some 3D stuff, I would recommend SlimDX

Ben Richards

But I had a ton of fun coding an OpenGL shader program that colored a surface like a CD. :P

Oliver Salzburg

21:32

I've really started to like it the past weeks

Ben Richards

@OliverSalzburg I've got OpenGL+SDL. I'm happy with that. :)

Maybe DirectX, if I feel like learning it.

Oliver Salzburg

@BenRichards That's cool as well. I just thought, in combination with C#

Although I'm not such a big fan of OGL, even though that's how I started 3D dev

Well, given the contrast with D3D anyway

Ben Richards

@OliverSalzburg OGL has gotten better. Why not a fan?

Oliver Salzburg

@BenRichards I just felt like D3D was more OO than OGL. I like OO, so I always felt like I had to write a ton of wrappers to get to where I wanted to be

Ben Richards

Yeah. OGL isn't object oriented at all. It's state-based.

Oliver Salzburg

21:36

Indeed. People told me, well, it's more hardware oriented. And that's cool, but it just wasn't as much fun writing it as it was with D3D

Ben Richards

But you can wrap it. I'm doing that with Tetris. SDL helps out too, it's got the basic hooks in there (I don't like GLUT, and it replaces that, so I'm happy)

Actually I would like to create my own graphics engine. Things like that are fun for me.

Oliver Salzburg

There's also stuff like github.com/Overv/OOGL (if that's the correct project)

Ben Richards

Cool

Oliver Salzburg

I've written quite a few 3D engines in the past, which was a lot of fun. But it can get really boring once you realize that nobody is doing anything with them :P But this was for a very small audience

Ben Richards

Yeah

Oliver Salzburg

21:39

I still have a completely unused C++/D3D9 engine lying around which was never used for anything. I'm porting parts of it right now to C#/D3D11

Ben Richards

neat

Oliver Salzburg

And, hopefully, I'll be able to create something tasty with it until August

@allquixotic You wanna weigh in on this? superuser.com/questions/604953/…

Ben Richards

I also like other things though. I'd love to get more into networking type stuff. I have a project I shelved which I still would like to experiment with.

I want to build something new and novel.

I have ideas. Crazy ideas. :P This particular shelved project might be a good vehicle for them.

While I like making certain things, it does get quickly boring if they're things others have built before in some form.

Oliver Salzburg

I can relate

But sometimes you just can't help the feeling that could do it better somehow :P

Ben Richards

Heh :P

Yeah

The real problem is that there's not enough time to do everything that I would like to do

I'd love to delve into theoretical physics too but I don't have the energy to do that along with everything else :P

Oliver Salzburg

21:45

@BenRichards Heh, I can relate to that! :D

This is why I love to find OSS projects which almost do what I want, where I can contribute the bit I really need

Ben Richards

I actually would enjoy building a physics engine that can model from the atomic scale to the stellar scale. But that'd be a project and a half.

nods

Oliver Salzburg

And when the maintainer is open to contributions, that's such an awesome feeling

I recently had this with github.com/LogicalError/Graph Very awesome

Ben Richards

I should get more into OSS projects

Oliver Salzburg

@BenRichards I really haven't contributed to anything prior to really taking part in GitHub

Ben Richards

nods

Breakthrough

21:51

sigh superuser.com/a/605100/6887

I now suspect that all three of the following user accounts are the same person:
http://superuser.com/users/229823/computer-god-wannabe
http://superuser.com/users/229836/blah-im-good-like-that
http://superuser.com/users/229849/oh-yeah-got-it-again

Should I make a Meta post about it or just leave it be?

Oliver Salzburg

@Breakthrough It's in the process of being taken care of ;D

I don't get it right now though. Like, the stuff he's posting, it's not fully garbage

So I am seeking advice from the elders

Journeyman Geek

@BenRichards: i.sstatic.net/SMNCq.jpg

Ben Richards

@JourneymanGeek Nice. :D

Breakthrough

@OliverSalzburg thank you sir, much appreciated.

Figured it would be best if I asked you first and avoided making an unnecessary Meta post.

Oliver Salzburg

@Breakthrough Sure, as long as someone from the mod team is around, that's cool :)

Journeyman Geek

22:04

@Bob @OliverSalzburg: managed to get through to the site ;p

@BenRichards: silly question - do you store your headphones in the bag?

Ben Richards

@JourneymanGeek Yes, because I don't use them all the time and don't have a good place to put it.

Journeyman Geek

do you detatch the cable?

Ben Richards

Yup

It won't go in the case otherwise

And if it did, I would be nervous about crimping it :P

If I used it regularly then I'd be less inclined to store it in the case, though.

I'd probably hang it and leave it plugged in.

For instance, if I had a dedicated production studio setup :P

(Which may happen in the future :P)

Journeyman Geek

lol, I slotted mine between the layers of foam, which seems ok

I'm seriously thinking of getting a headphone stand

creative has a nice simple, not too spendy one

sg.creative.com/p/accessories/sound-blaster-headset-stand

Ben Richards

Just screw a hook into your wall or desk and you're set :P

Journeyman Geek

22:12

lol

Ben Richards

Or if you really want, two hooks, to spread the weight out.

That's probably what I'd do.

Journeyman Geek

my last stand was a minor disaster. design was cool, but I suspect its one of the reasons my headphone pleather flaked off

Ben Richards

Ah

My dad has some Koss studio headphones. The padding eventually cracked and fell off, so he just glued some foam in its stead.

Journeyman Geek

I DO have ideas on making a better one if I get my lathe/multitool thing

Ben Richards

I'm off, bye

Journeyman Geek

22:23

bye!

Hennes

23:11

Those that would sacrifice essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety will receive a $10 Starbucks gift card

Tweeted by Pinboard on June 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM

No wonder Starbuck is "Not making any profit and hence does not have to pay taxes".

allquixotic

@Hennes Starbuck?

I think you mean Starbucks

Hennes

Yup

Oliver Salzburg

Ms Starbuck is handsome

allquixotic

she is delightful :D

Hennes

That is what I call BSG.

allquixotic

23:18

@Hennes NO

Hennes

Also. Visible LASERS in space with a kick.

And spaceships with wings.

Oliver Salzburg

The Big Sexy Gun

Hennes

Making the same turns in a slightly different order than last episode

Ah, the pulsar on that ice planet

allquixotic

the original BSG can kiss my ass, but only one cheek, because it was the progenitor of BSG Reimagined, so that much at least justifies its existence... but it's a terrible show

Hennes

Yup. It was terrible.

I was also very young and watched each episode

allquixotic

23:20

they should've just written a novel providing the ideas for BSG and waited until the modern BSG to make it

Hennes

Speaking about bad SF: beediebeediebeedie... What's up Buck?

Or worse. BSG 1980.... Welcome to Earth

Lets travel in time!

Last time I used "beediebeediebeedie." was when I was trying to annoy some guys at ADSL

One is a star trek fan. One star wars

So we make some careful errors.

Like "Blake'5", "Babylon 7". "John Luke Skywalker, captain of the Enterprise"

Beediebeediebeedie, beam me up Buck

Journeyman Geek

@Hennes: lol

for a moment I thought the robot was wearing a shiny metal pizza

Hennes

That shiny pizza is a robotic person. :-)

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aiding Buck was Dr. Theopolis or "Theo" (voiced by Eric Server), a sentient computer in the shape of a disk, approximately 9-inches wide with an illuminated face. He was capable of understanding Twiki's electronic language, and was often carried around by him. Theo was a member of Earth's "computer council" and one of the planet's scientific leaders

Time to read on on words such as "Fassungslosigkeit," Stimmungsaufheller" and "Querschnitt"

Luke

23:53

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