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14:00
The things you have been observing are all fine within this context. If an answer is not appropriate in achieving our goals, then, yes, it is fine to anonymously downvote it. Editing posts is also fine as just explained. Your last point about moderators upvoting each other... I can't really confirm that. I have a lot of answers with no upvotes. It would actually be nice if my colleagues would go around handing me some upvotes!!!
the main site is definitely not fair though, because the most expeditious means of providing a correct answer can sometimes be unfair
ya, the amount of upvotes you get is really unfair :P
@Pat Life is not fair ;p
Pat
Pat
@OliverSalzburg define your goals... can you?? of course it's not providing information...
3 mins ago, by Oliver Salzburg
@Pat The site is about providing the best possible answers to questions. That's pretty much it
currently one ahole is blocking the queue in scrap.tf
Pat
Pat
14:01
@OliverSalzburg do you have any doubt moderators massively upvote each other??????? you know how many times I have seen idiotic answers massively upvoted????
@Pat No, I don't!!!!!!!!
@Pat there are only a few moderators on the site; even if all of them always voted for eachother, that wouldn't be nearly enough upvotes for it to be "massively" upvoted
so it must be that regular old users are upvoting eachother... oh noes
Pat
Pat
@OliverSalzburg then you are either, naive, blind or lying...
Plus that's something that would trigger the voting fraud script.
@Pat Or maybe ALL OF THE ABOVE OMG!!!
14:03
@Pat that's annoying ik
And we'd get a kick in the butt from the community team.
@Pat also if you upvote someone hard, bots detect it
Pat
Pat
@allquixotic please guys, I'm good with numbers... that's why the upvoting/downvoting is keep "secret"...
@Pat If you believe you're good with numbers, then you are either, naive, blind or lying...
@Pat yeah, this has gone full retard now. No way in hell would the StackExchange team allow any users to cross-vote. Mods that did it would be removed from their position.
Pat
Pat
14:04
@OliverSalzburg neither....
@Pat if you have enough rep, you can see
@Pat No, "either"
yeah, this is no longer enjoyable for me... sick of the bad apples in Root Access... I'll come back later, hopefully after this silly guy has departed... ciao o/
@Pat fighting with someone is stupid :P
And you are not going to gain anything
why fight ?
peace FTW !
I think I'm leaving as well. Sounds like a good plan.
14:05
I think I might install this new PSU :)
Bad timing. I'm out too.
hey 'dino. bye 'dino. :)
Pat
Pat
@OliverSalzburg go and try to face your mirror...
@Pat uhhmm stfu ?
14:07
I think this is better/worse than the Pringles smiley guy.
@Pat Dude, drop it. Nobody here is taking you actually seriously and it's not clear what you're even trying to achieve. Just keep writing your blog and maybe post it on Facebook or something. Just stay as far away from Stack Exchange as possible. It doesn't seem to be good for your mental health. You seem a bit too angry about all of this. Cheers
@OliverSalzburg nerd rage is srs business. Internetz is srs business.
3edgy5me
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star dis if u cri everytiem.
@jokerdino that's einsteins
Pat
Pat
14:10
I haven't insulted you then I appreciate if you can do the same...
go back to your life face the mirror and look at your face...
@allquixotic his grandson. Hah
@jokerdino for the road have some pringles ;o))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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@Pat go away .... chooo
@jokerdino yeah I doubt it is.
Who invited all the diamonds?
14:11
hi kitty!
@allquixotic Hi. Fox, actually.
@KitFox Oh! Sorry. ;_; I thought you were kin. We have a bit of a (fun, harmless) "rivalry" between cats and dogs in here. ;-)
Ooh. Something got flagged.
Hey. No borrowing our Kit.
Now. Can we flag properly or not at all, please?
14:12
Just ban him and be done with it.
sigh I don't know who flagged but we have a bit of a disgruntled user in here, so that's probably who did...
@tombull89 Way ahead of you
@allquixotic you wonder?
Seeing a chat flag and all this bad apple-ness in Root Access is very uncharacteristic of our community, so, on behalf of all of us, I apologize for the disturbance, helpful-mods-to-the-rescue. :-)
@allquixotic Well, I'm neither. Although I'm a canid, it's really the best of both worlds to be a fox. Playful and cunning.
14:13
You had me at "bad Apple".
Alright, I'm gonna go look at my face in the mirror now! And then I will install this new PSU
@KitFox Yeah, we have another fox in here (@Bob) who loves to point out that he's not a true dog. :P
A two day ban? Aww, man. He's gonna be lovely when he comes back.
:D
@tombull89 2
@OliverSalzburg is that what the cool kids call glasses today?
14:14
@allquixotic What? Huh. I thought I was the only one.
He's got a pretty avatar.
btw, all ELU mods are closet Linux users.
@KitFox Hehehe. I mocked up a pic of a Mortal Kombat "FIGHT!" between the gravatars of myself, two other cats, and two dogs and @Bob's Fox. Bob was outraged to be on the "dog team". :D
At the time I didn't even realize that foxes were so distant from dogs o_O
Fatal1ty!
@RegDwighт No, I just first need to find out what I'm seeing when looking into the mirror. It's complicated. I didn't understand it either. Someone who came by this here chat room earlier suggested that I should do it. I dunno. Weird stuff
Foxes and dogs are as far apart as cats and um...
14:15
Giraffes?
Mushrooms?
Wolverine.
Did I get flagged ? :D
@HackToHell Do you want to?
@KitFox hey kitten :)
@jokerdino We trapped some more users with our "we're totally vulnerable to chat raid" schtick.
14:16
@jokerdino :P
Achievement Unlocked: Get flagged by a troll
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@allquixotic just merge the two gravatars.
@RegDwighт Interesting! :D
Umm....
14:17
Mark it NSFL. Thank you.
@RegDwighт oh lawl
OOoooookay, so, some of those pics are triggering my fight or flight reflexes o_O
@jokerdino must say the one who merges dinos with jokers in his spare time. Pfft.
also, they are in the Uncanny Valley.
14:18
@RegDwighт Correction: That's what I do all the time.
Ah, I missed all the fun...
@jokerdino that's not a correction. That's merely clarification that all your time is spare.
@TomWijsman It was thrilling. Truly riveting.
iirc I got flagged by some troll some time ago ....
@RegDwighт Fine then.
14:19
and it was in the AU room
I think I can look it up.
@Pat If you point to them as abusers then you probably should mention why you think it is abuse and why you think you are unfairly banned; but no, you resort to straight "I insult you, don't insult me" instead. I don't know where you come from and the conversation you brought here, but the way you stumble into this room isn't really the right approach to deal with it; I could call it abuse of this chat medium.
Oh @Tom. You came and you gave without taking.
@HackToHell I checked. No
I was really impressed at the swift response of all the mods who came to the rescue when we had a flag though :D They must have been thinking, "WUT? Root Access? A flag?! This has to be the real thing! Prep the fire engine! Prep the ambulance! LET'S GO!"
14:20
But someone flagged me ..... hmmm .....
i think Sathya was there
Only flags from RA.
Everything from Mary Jane to the real stuff.
@allquixotic No. It was "What? Two incorrectly flagged statements in a row? We must help this user help himself!"
Mathematics gets flags for posts like "I like ponies"; they get a lot of false positives.
Sounds like 'The bridge' to me.
In Comms Room, egregious violations of the tacit chat community code of conduct go unflagged because people are used to it.
@allquixotic Aww Yiss.
@jokerdino Hell, Zalgo text gets flagged there.
And they say we have a reputation for cruelty.
@allquixotic lube
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@HackToHell Flagging! :D
Comms room is cruel
14:22
j/k
I'm off. Be good!
Bye @KitFox. I'll remember your non-catness!
Communism or no unism at all. Wimps and posers, leave the hall.
@KitFox Something like two dogs fighting for a bone, then a fan of Meredith (a cat, not the person from Bones) comes along and steals it away.
14:23
What!? I'm no wimp!
@KitFox Bye already?
@TomWijsman From Bones ?
lol poor @KitFox
@jokerdino Yes. I have stuff! And I'm trying to be cool. And your color scheme is just awful.
Careful, we might be able to successfully "pull" (in the MMO sense) @KitFox back to Root Access and integrate her in the community as a regular. :D
@HackToHell Oh my, no, clarified it slightly.
14:25
/me prepares the trap
@KitFox So was your typo. :/
It's an elaborate ruse!
@TomWijsman oh that cat
The trick is, @ her mere moments after she leaves ;-)
It's true. I can't resist the flattery.
14:25
her .. ?
More like "please stay because if you leave us alone with Oliver we'll all go insaaaaaaaaaahayhayhayaaaayne ;'(("
Hmm. But perhaps I can outmaneuver you...
fox is male !
lurks
@HackToHell Vixen then.
14:27
:O Reverse psychology? Staying/lurking instead of falling prey to the trap?
@jokerdino or nine-tails ;p
Wait... isn't that, like, springing the trap, watching as it flops around uselessly, then taking the cheese?
@allquixotic It works, I think, can't tell until the ban is lifted.
You have Survival Mouse genes. This is bad.
@allquixotic But we haz cat genes !
14:28
@HackToHell YES! We are the "A" team! :D
Cat power, disgruntled or otherwise!
Actually, your cat is disgruntled/disappointed and mine is wary. We don't espouse the best emotions. :D
3 hours ago, by Sathya
dammit I missed some entertainment and ban hammering
again
@Sathya And again!
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Q: Best option for saving energy

NishuWhich is better option among sleep, hibernate and shutdown in terms of energy saving ? And which is better in terms of computer's life ?

Well we covered the emotions that are always with everyone :P
Gee, thanks, EE. :-/
@allquixotic Best advice is to shut down computer and never turn on again. This would ensure most of energy saved.
14:32
@Boris_yo lol
wait you have to unplug it from the wall too
the adapter may draw a tiny bit of power if it is plugged into the socket
@HackToHell And use computer as table for drinking vodka.
@allquixotic Cut adapter in half! (after plugging it off)
Holy damn nexus 4 is costly here flipkart.com/nexus-4/p/…
I was expecting 40k.
nexus 4 can't be used on Verizon :(
14:38
@jokerdino @_@
@allquixotic Why not?
@HackToHell not that I am going to buy it :P
whoa
MOD INVASION
@jokerdino MMs Canvas a116 has nearly same specs for 15k
@jokerdino and decided on what to do :P ?
@JourneymanGeek Where? "All your forums belong to us!"?
14:39
brb
@HackToHell I am out of here. :P
What are you doing?
@jokerdino where SG again ? :d
@jokerdino complex work ;p
@HackToHell I meant the chat.
@Boris_yo N4 doesn't support LTE 700 MHz band
@jokerdino ???
14:43
@HackToHell I said I am leaving the chat because you are asking what i am going to do. -.-
@allquixotic I keep stumbling upon various no-name or weird-name Chinese smartphones. I assume most of them don't work with LTE 700 MHz band.
@Boris_yo yeah, they have to be specifically designed to work with it
@allquixotic Then it must be very special band.
Okay, going AFK because I've consumed my deal of today's radiation by staring into laptop's screen.
@jokerdino ah :d
15:05
:D:
reminds me of gollum
morning.
@studiohack you missed all the fun
@allquixotic what happened?
15:14
XD
quite a lot it seems
@studiohack: guy called pat got in trouble with SE for promoting his product too much. He apparently came in here (and we arn't the ones who banned him till 2014) and spouted a bunch of garbage
and apparently there were a lot of flags flying around
and mod invasions
15:36
@JourneymanGeek ahhh! I just read a bunch of it, but your background info helps! thanks!
;p there is a bunch of it. most of it drivel ;p
it only works with :D:
:P
Hi. I would like to know if it is possible to move the C partition(windows partition) in my hard disk to another part
Sure.
Easiest way is:
1) Make a copy of it (ghost, clonezilla, acronis, whatever)
2) Delete the old C:
3) move partitions
4) Restore from 1)
long painstaking work, avoid it if possible
15:47
A more interesting question is how windows will behave if its drive letters chance
I would make an image backup first.
Curious: How do you fix it it windows gets confused with drive letters?
I know how to do it in inucer. Just edit /etc/fstab or mount on disk ids.
But how do I do that with windows?
@JourneymanGeek haha. I'm kinda sorry I missed it, but I'm a quiet mod, I prefer to work behind the scenes.
random is best at that
lol
@studiohack: eheh. he got squeshed a few times
@Hennes: disk management, in theory
but your system drive should be fixed
15:56
@JourneymanGeek lol
@JourneymanGeek and yes. system drives can be really problematic to move.
<Kriger voice> Sure you can move partitions! But... don't you want Windows to work?</Kriger voice>
(not sure if anyone here watches Archer)
not me
@Hennes ya I figured that out. But I actually intended to ask whether I can move it AND make the new cloned partition bootable. (note: The cloned partition is on the same hard disk)
IsExcited() : true
PROGRAMMING PROJECT!!!! YEEEEEEEEEEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
at work? for work? @allquixotic
16:01
I have it like this |||system reserved 100MB|||unpartitioned space 80GB|||D Drive (some random stuff) 73GB|||C Drive (the actual windows installation partition)75GB|||E drive (all my personal stuff)280GB (and mostly filled)|||some more unpartitioned space
@studiohack yes and yes
Now I want to move C drive to the initial unpartitioned space...
@allquixotic what for? I thought you were supposed to be a brainless minion?
@studiohack brainless miniondrone got asked to make something "an EXE"
me: grins. you have no idea what you are asking, this will be FUN!!!!!!!!!!!
@allquixotic MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I know, I'm happy for you @allquixotic :P
16:04
ah yes, always Image not found for staticflickr and fbcdn
omg :D
The Z machine is the largest X-ray generator in the world and is designed to test materials in conditions of extreme temperature and pressure. Since its refurbishment in October 1996 it has been used primarily as an inertial confinement fusion (ICF) research facility. Operated by Sandia National Laboratories, it gathers data to aid in computer modeling of nuclear weapons and eventual nuclear fusion pulsed power plants. The Z machine is located at Sandia's main site in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Origins The Z machine origins can be traced from the Department of Energy need to replicate in a...
that... is... DAMN
I was hoping I could take a fbcdn or staticflickr url and have the server go request it and upload it to stack.imgur for me, but no :(
i wonder how many gigs we waste on imgur's servers with our stack images :D
it probably does duplicate image detection so it only stores one copy of it
@allquixotic prolly less than reddit
their entire collection is just 1 TB
I have moved a system disk once before. Previously the drive letter the OS was installed in was named G: in windows. The C: drive was an empty 1MB partition.
It was fun watching programs burn and crash when they had hardcoded path rather then %system%
@Hennes I'm just laughing and shaking my head.
16:09
Most fun was win95 without a harddisk but with a C: partition/
Not sure how windows thought it worked.
Installed on a Quantum prodrive 52S (a 52MB SCSI drive) on a adaptec 1542FC hostadaptor. When I upgraded that ISA card to a NCR810 hostadaptor (PCI) it sort of worked. I had a working C: drive and windows booted. But no harddisks anywhere in device management
Happy ethernet day! 40 y.o.
16:40
Apparently a partition can start in the middle of a disk and continue, wrapping around to the beginning, yet still be seen as a contiguous partition.
I ended up doing that once somehow, accidentally, in Windows XP. It was quite interesting.
16:55
@HackToHell!
Did you... Did you see the new The Vault episode?!
nope ... did TS come ?
Do you mean TAS? :P
TAS ? what's that
Depends on what TS is, middle name helps to ensure validity.
oh, now I like Natalie Portman :P
16:59
Over at The Bridge they'll tell you it's a tool assisted speedrun, but that's not what you're getting at, I think.
@HackToHell I already know that, I think.
So, uhm, did you see the new The Vault episode? Or are you still not following the show?
If you are looking for T(A)S in specific, you should see the New Girl final. :P
That TV series hasn't premiered here yet
17:34
The new PSU is awesome! Unexpectedly silent
@OliverSalzburg oh, you made it back online! congrats ;)
Took a while :P I also tried to work on the CPU cooler/fan situation. The maker told me it was asymmetrically built and that could be the reason why it collides with my RAM
But I already had it installed the way that leaves the most space for the fan :\
17:51
Anyone here recommend a fantastic, affordable 24" IPS computer monitor? I love my Dell 2007WFP that I brought to work, but it's only 20".
@BenRichards The one I bought when the hype started is still working fine. I love it
16:10 aspect ratio, preferred, like this one.
@OliverSalzburg What is it? The same as me? It's fantastic. I have two. It's just small. I want a larger panel. :P It feels small next to my work-issued Acer 24" TN crappy display. :P
(My brother is using the other one. Donated it as a free monitor when he got his desktop.)
This is the one, even the same seller
But it's 16:9
Aha
I'd prefer 24" and 16:10
A high DPI also is preferred but not required.
Ack. I wonder how many people other than me easily confuse Kensington with Kingston
Oh, 24, I got a little mixed up there. Nevermind :)
17:54
:)
No worries
A coworker has a 27". It's a bit large for me
@OliverSalzburg What's the biggest computer screen one can find today?
@Boris_yo A TV. Since we've converged on connectivity interfaces.
@BenRichards Yeah I know it is possible to connect TVs to computers today but I was asking specifically about screens that are designed to be used with computers.
By the way, who of you people uses more than 1 monitor and how convenient do you find it?
@Boris_yo I use 3 and I would find it painful to move back to 2 or 1
@Boris_yo I use more than one all the time (though currently I'm experimenting with a single display at work). I find it very convenient.
Studies have been done that suggest productivity will increase according to how many screens you have.
18:04
@BenRichards What can I do in my case with laptop?
@BenRichards So I can have 10 screens and have 1000% boost in productivity?
@Boris_yo Extend your desktop to your external display. Though some laptop docks these days have multiple external display connectors. A couple people here got new Thinkpads with those.
@Boris_yo Well, you'll have to get something from Matrox, then. :)
@BenRichards No wonder those at stock exchange have dozens of monitors...
Matrox Avio F125 High Performance Dual Video KVM Extenders Featuring USB 2.0 Support
It's gonna be cumbersome finding docking station for my laptop, unless it is something universal.
@BenRichards How about integrating 3 more eyes into my brain? Or better becoming spider-man?
@Boris_yo Can't help you there.
18:16
@BenRichards Mind-blowing 5 star reviews!
@BenRichards So you don't know where I can find mutated spider?
@Boris_yo Chernobyl.
@BenRichards Hehe I knew you would say it.
Nice discount. I'm going for it.
Maybe I shoud lock myself in hadron collider and run a test?
Buying used for $209. :)
18:18
@BenRichards Why you think used will be better than new ;)
If you buy a new monitor, try getting one with a displayport option
It is becoming increasingly common, and you do not upgrade monitors all that often
@Hennes I have VGA out in my laptop. Can I install splitter that allows me to connect a dozen monitors?
(At least I do not)
@Hennes I have VGA and HDMI out. I also am currently using an HDMI->DVI cable. It's going to be for work, so I'm good.
/me checks laptop. Indeed. Mine also has VGA out,. And one DP.
The docking station has 2x DVI and 2x DP
18:20
hey guys
@Hennes Is there universal docking station?
how can i do a system restore on windows vista?
Usually a docking station is brand specific
Never seen a universal protocol for a docking station.
can't find it in the menu of windows
18:21
Unless they start coming out with ones with Thunderbolt. :)
But I guess you can build a nice generic one with a thunderbolt interface
the system is not in English
@EinsteinsGrandson Boot with F8, you should get a safe mode option
@Hennes Thunderbold is a system?
is there a CMD command for that?
18:21
And a question during the boot: Continue with safe mode or do a system restore
Thunderbolt is PCI-E in a cable. (-ish)
Smartphones... A lot of smartphones...
http://promotion.focalprice.com/androiditems_201305/?utm_source=FP&utm_medium=1305AI&utm_campaign=FP_1305AI_BN
yeah, i pressed F8 and chose the safe with command line....
then get into windows
Disclaimer: I did not try that on vistra, just with win7
aka vista SP1
@EinsteinsGrandson If you boot with the Windows CD, there's usually a recovery option and I think it will try that as an option.
wrote "explorer" in the console
so now i have "kind of" windows enviroment
If i don't have a Windows CD, it means i can't do it?
18:26
@EinsteinsGrandson You should be able to without one.
now i run it in the command line with the command " rstrui.exe "
I don't have Vista, haven't used it in a while. Can't remember off the top in my head.
however, i didn't do the "point of restore" in the past
it tells me it's not possible to do the system restore since i don't have that "point of recovery"
OK.
That is quite possible if you have system restore turned off to save diskspace
@Hennes Like PCI-E video card in a cable? Or is it slot?
18:29
PCI-e is a slot
YOu can put a videocard in it, or a disk controller, or an USB card, or .....
@Hennes, what do you mean
?
Did you ever open a desktop ?
@Hennes I did and I saw PCI-E on fatherboard
*motherboard
What can you put in such an PCI-e slot ?
@Hennes Only videocard, but I have seen SSD cards that work with it.
18:40
It is not meant for videocards. It is means for all sorts of cards.
You could plug in a serial cards. Or a card with extra USB ports.
Or a soundcard
Or a SCSI card
Or ...
etc etc
Now imagine that on a cable and you have Thunderbolt
Thunderbolt is basically USB on steroids. It can transport anything and everything (even at once).
@Hennes Cable connects to laptop and it becomes like docking station?
But without needed USB drivers or incurring USB overhead.
Cable connect to a dockingstation. Dock does a Thunderbolt -> PCI-e bridge -> a few PCI-e busses.
How do you operate this if your TV does not support operation on touch-basis? dx.com/p/…
18:52
And add whatever you want to those busses. E.g. USB, sound, SATA, graphics, ...
19:06
@random "Oliver Salzburg♦ is considered a high activity user" \o/
I have answered a single Windows 8 question!
19:34
@OliverSalzburg It's not a major achievement. I'm a high activity user on SO with .6 posts per month.
 
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20:48
­­­O_o what'd I miss? lol
user image
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wrong image but I'll keep it =D
@Tanner rofl!
Why yes, I do prefer to avoid OSX =D
aw, can we not look at the tag feature of other users?
Can we edit in some programming stuff and migrate this to Stack Overflow ?
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Q: Did Installing Windows 8 On Mutiple computers blocks my Licence Key

Arsal HussainI Have A One Windows 8 Licence Key And I Want To Activate Mutiple Windows 8 On PCs Through This One Key, By Doing This It Violates MS Licensing Rule, Is It Also Blocks My Key?? Only For My Knowledge, But My Friend Will Gonna Do That.... Thats Why Asking


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