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4:03 PM

@Boris_yo I didn't go to the Caribbean. Though that would be nice. Perhaps I mentioned that a coworker was going earlier?

But yeah, hi!

Gotta go to lunch now

mmm lunch

@allquixotic By the way, I had to update xrdp to use X11rdp as the back-end since people were complaining about lost sessions (when reconnecting from a different pc w/ a different resolution)

Trialing it on my desktop right now. Hopefully I can roll it out tonight.

Gonna try and do my work today over RDP from my tablet to my desktop :P

Desktop is running CentOS 6 btw. :P Also, I'm getting into KDE.

There's no guide on how to set up xrdp w/ X11rdp for Fedora-based distros, though. I found one for Debian-based ones and had to adapt that. Was considering actually putting the guide up on the SU blog.

Anyways, off to quest for lunch

@BenRichards back-end? X11rdp?

4:37 PM

Can anybody tell me if this computer is worth refurbishing for Windows or if I should just try making it a Linux server?

It's a Core 2 Duo with no hard drive, and the Windows license that came with it was OEM, so they refuse to send me a new copy of Windows. Should I spend the $250-$300 to refurbish it or what?

@Nathan2055 what are you going to do with it? how much RAM? what graphics card?

@Nathan2055 How much memory? What are you planning to spend $250-$300 on?

jinx

haha

As noobish as this sounds, I have no idea what the exact specs are. It's a 2009 Dell Vostro 220 that we picked up off a business that was throwing it away. The hard disk had gone bad, so they had replaced it and thrown me into the world of pain that is OEM. I assume that I would need $200 for a copy of Win 7 (non-OEM, not going through that again) and about $50-$100 on a new hard disk.

I haven't ripped it open, I actually immediately attempted to acquire a Windows rescue disc, first from Dell and then Microsoft.

4:47 PM

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Q: Flag for "Not an answer" should be re-worded

I flaged this answer as "Not an answer" due to the answer trying to explain product activation, where the question is about the process of performing the install. The description for "Not an answer" is the following: This was posted as an answer, but it does not attempt to answer the quest...

feature-request flagging

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Q: Windows 8: Hints, Tips & Tricks?

Is it possible to have a Windows 8: Hints, Tips & Tricks question on SuperUser, which is kind of like a community wiki (if thats the correct term), where one hint tip or trick is given per answer. As it grows people can search appropriately so as not to duplicate an answer that someone has alread...

feature-request windows-8

@Nathan2055 Oh the joys of OEM...

Dell won't send you the recovery disc?

@Nathan2055 you still haven't answered the most important question

You should be able to request one...

What are you going to do with it?

or throw linux on it and forget about it :P

Oliver Salzburg

4:50 PM

@Nathan2055 If it's an OEM system, shouldn't there be a COA on it somewhere?

@allquixotic Yeah. The session manager can use VNC for its back-end (default) or an RDP server. However X11rdp isn't built by default so I had to download the source and build it manually.

Oliver Salzburg

As in, a little sticker with the Windows key on it

But it fixes the issue (with version 0.6.0 of xrdp, anyway)

There is a COA, Microsoft refuses to work with me due to the OEM, Dell won't work with me because it's out of warranty.

So now if I reconnect to an existing session with different resolution parameters (amongst other things), it will reconnect and resize the session.

Oliver Salzburg

4:51 PM

@Nathan2055 So just grab any Windows 7 installation media and re-install

If you want that

It's a Windows Vista COA.

@BenRichards VNC? you mean x11vnc? ah, TIL

Yeah

@Nathan2055 Have you tried this? support.dell.com/support/topics/global.aspx/support/dellcare/en/…

@OliverSalzburg Or that. lol

If you don't have a generic Windows 7 iso:

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Q: Where do I download Windows 7 (legally from Microsoft)?

I just bought a serial for Windows 7 on-line from the Microsoft store (the most painful shopping experience EVER!). I selected that I wanted to download my version of Windows 7 after purchase. After payment I was listed a Product Key but no download link in sight. Where do I download my Windows...

windows-7 download iso-image

Oliver Salzburg

I was looking for Windows 7 licenses on Ebay just the other day. They're like 30€

But, as @allquixotic said, depending on what you want to do with the machine, a free OS might serve you just as well

> every other monitor is black and I think that is gross

Oh please :D

4:57 PM

I usually just throw Linux on old hardware, if there's no working OS on it.

The bad news is that that backup disc form is only for recent Windows 7 computers. Crud.

The question might be able to help me though.

Thanks everyone!

Oliver Salzburg

@Nathan2055 You wouldn't be able to use it with your Vista COA anyway I guess ;D

Oh, yeah. I would have to get a Win7 product key from somewhere.

Good grief, Microsoft!

@Nathan2055 I don't know if they still sell Win 7 product keys, but they let you buy them from directly in the OS when you try and activate it.

I had to do that once when I ran out of keys (was reusing install discs)

Oliver Salzburg

@Nathan2055 What? You thought having a license for Vista entitled you to a license for any future version of Windows? :D

5:01 PM

I think that feature is brilliant. "Can't activate? Don't have a valid product key? Here, click this and buy one!"

@OliverSalzburg Although I love companies that give out free upgrades for life after purchasing a license to the software.

Unfortunately, not many do that.

Oliver Salzburg

A business model like that isn't easily sustainable I guess

But, yeah, I like that as well :D

@OliverSalzburg Well some can, but they have to have other revenue streams, as well.

@OliverSalzburg Of course not!

For instance, Image-Line gives me free upgrades to FL Studio. I got it at version 6 or so. It's now at version 12 and still free for me to download. :D

@BenRichards For some reason the word "Minecraft" comes to mind here.

5:05 PM

@Nathan2055 I actually don't play it so I don't know what that has to do with it :P

I'm going afk, bbl.

Oliver Salzburg

@BenRichards Oh wow, I would not have assumed that they're doing that with FL

@OliverSalzburg They've been doing it for as long as I can tttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt‌tttttttttell.

... dang wifi

There. Much better.

Why oh why wifi is so slow, I have no idea.

@BenRichards sure you do

((have an idea))

@allquixotic I know. Dangit you half duplex protocol!

Also, I'm looking into what settings I can change. :)

5:14 PM

GAH. LET ME CONCENTRATE you people! (coworkers)

my coworkers are the kind of people who let a 4 GB file download to 3.9 GB then cancel it

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that's what they're doing to my concentration

user61389

I'm looking for people with byte-level knowledge of TCP, especially the handshaking mechanism. Would I find them (you?) here?

Oliver Salzburg

@CamilStaps You'll probably find them in a few days in the chat room for area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/52519/network-engineering

But you can try us as well ;D

user61389

Haha :)

user61389

I'm implementing an HTTP server on an embedded board, but the TCP handshaking fails. The client is the PC, so nothing can be wrong there. I'm picking up the packets with wireshark and can't find anything wrong: the acknowledgement number is correct as are the flags. You can find the packets here:

user61389

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Q: TCP handshaking fails - what's wrong with the server's reply?

I'm building a server with the ENC28J60 chip and a PIC18F4620. The chip is connected to my PC via ethernet. Currently, I'm trying to set up the TCP connection over which I'll build an HTTP connection later on. I have never worked with TCP before. I'm implementing TCP on the embedded device only,...

tcp client-server tcpserver handshake handshaking

user61389

5:25 PM

And here's the handshaking described:

user61389

Transmission Control Protocol

The Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) is one of the two original core protocols of the Internet protocol suite (IP), and is so common that the entire suite is often called TCP/IP. TCP provides reliable, ordered, error-checked delivery of a stream of octets between programs running on computers connected to an intranet or the public Internet. Browsers use it when they connect to servers on the World Wide Web sites, and it is used to accurately deliver email and transfer files from one location to another. Applications that do not require the reliability of a TCP connection may instead u...

@CamilStaps My knowledge is byte-sized, not byte-level. Sorry. :P

user61389

@BenRichards lol :P

@CamilStaps have you checked/read the RFC?

Oliver Salzburg

@CamilStaps No clue. I would probably try to find some OSS implementation of a TCP/IP stack (Linux kernel might be a good start) and read through it. From experience though, that never helped me much ;D

user61389

5:29 PM

@allquixotic I must confess I entirely rely on wikipedia and some other pages - is this information incorrect / incomplete?

Oliver Salzburg

tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc793.txt

That's probably the right one

there are a whole series of RFCs applicable to TCP

Oliver Salzburg

Oh, it says which ones are important right at the top of the Wikipedia article ;D

tools.ietf.org/html/rfc793 tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1122 tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2581 tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5681 tools.ietf.org/html/rfc675

I find it hard to believe that a chip capable of doing TCP/IP networking would come without any TCP implementation

@enderland - This site is for serious and actual problems. Every editor that as every existed behaves in this maner. — Ramhound 6 mins ago

user61389

5:34 PM

@allquixotic the ENC28J60 only has an ethernet implementation, the rest has to be done by the microcontroller. The chip manufacturer has made a TCP/IP stack, but it's hardly documented.

this may interest you

oh. ramhound isn't here... :(

user61389

I'm now reading section 4.3.2 Establishing a Connection of RFC675, let's see if that's useful.

user61389

@allquixotic oh thanks, let's have a look at that first :)

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland It would really help if you would write your question less like a story. A lot less

5:37 PM

@enderland Ramhound is a fairly rude and offensive user, and I'm not sure why his antics are tolerated just because he has high rep. However, with respect to your question, I really think your choice of wording is -- frankly -- terrible, and needs to be written directly, clearly, and without excessive metaphor.

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic Well said

You have a valid and probably solvable technical problem that you've wrapped in this really strange riddle and I just don't think it's helpful at all, and attracts undue attention from users like Ramhound.

@allquixotic I guess :\ I don't really mind downvotes, tbh, I just was surprised to get such a negative reaction for trying to add some humor into a question about an otherwise lame topic

Oliver Salzburg

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Q: Is it possible to rename an open Word document without closing it?

I just ask this question as I do not believe that after so many versions of Word, it wouldn't exist. Usually when I'm working on a document and I realize I have to rename it, I have to close the document down, go to file explorer and then rename it, and then opening it up again. It's a procedur...

That might be somewhat related btw

...but not really helpful either ;D

hmmmm seems the trend is, "downvote microsoft products" - which as a mac user at home, I could totally get behind :D

5:42 PM

@enderland a bit of humor and writing the entire question as a metaphor are different...

Blog - Stack Exchange: Stack Overflow: Where We Hate Fun

Jeff Atwood on January 04, 2010

I noticed that the Stack Overflow question Strangest language feature has been closed and reopened several times now. The text of the question is brief:

What is in your opinion the most surprising, weird, strange or really “WTF” language feature you have encountered?

I agree this is not exactly an ideal question for Stack Overflow, per the FAQ:

Avoid asking questions that are subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board, this is a place for questions that can be answered! …

@enderland no, the trend is downvote questions that show poor research or are difficult to understand... there are many, many pro-Microsoft users on SuperUser who'll upvote MSFT software related questions if they're decent

edited your question btw

@allquixotic I know, I was joking about that :)

Hi everybody!

@Mokubai heya Mr. Wood-many :)

@allquixotic How've you been me ol' mucka?

@allquixotic With regard to that user (and not constructive comments in general), he was made aware of that problem. Please flag anything you see. We don't have our eyes everywhere.

5:46 PM

@Mokubai oh, you know, hanging in there.

@slhck got it... for some reason it just didn't occur to me to flag the comment; I only think about flagging for serious problems with questions and answers, I don't know why I don't make the mental connection that, gee, I can flag comments too!

@allquixotic Yeah.. especially in these cases, it helps making us aware of a more general issue.

@allquixotic They keeping you busy?

@allquixotic I'd actually flagged the entire chain as needing deletion as not applying anymore

@Mokubai three new employees... it's not bad, they're all nice people, but the problem is, when I try to concentrate on something, I get interrupted by "help me"s

I'm not a team lead or a manager, but I'm a veteran enough employee that things that the managers don't like doing (because it's annoying and interrupts their concentration; gee) get pushed onto me, like helping the new folks

That sounds eerily familiar....

5:53 PM

@enderland Don't worry about Ramhound. IMO he's just a troll.

@CamilStaps my basic advice in a situation like yours is -- if you didn't write the TCP/IP stack, and it's broken, contact the person or vendor who wrote it and complain

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Anyone who votes like that... :P

Oh dear, haha

user61389

@allquixotic I'm writing it myself :)

@CamilStaps oh. yikes. without consulting the RFC? yeah...

what OS are you running? or is this a situation where you have so little hardware to work with that you implemented the OS yourself too?

5:55 PM

hmm, even on a site I feel I downvote a TOON (since we get lots of crap answers) I still only have:

698 up
389 down

user61389

@allquixotic I know :) the OS on the PC (I'm not developing that side though) is WinXP, the OS on the server-side isn't really anything, it's just bare C :)

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland I posted a nice VBA solution for you ;D Give it a shot

Writing VBA code is painful O___O

@CamilStaps er... bare in the sense that there's no virtual memory, no processes, no multiprogramming, no threads, no memory management, no binary format, ... ? I mean even with "bare C" you'd need a C library, and the C library would have to implement certain things, right?

your compiler has to compile it into some binary format... how do you bootstrap the machine code? what hosts it? or is it standalone (not even hosted)?

@OliverSalzburg oh I know, I do this all the time myself :s

user61389

@allquixotic it's a PIC, if you're familiar with that. I upload a hex file with the code to my microcontroller, that's basically ASM code and that's the only code on the chip

5:58 PM

thanks though - I'll just add taht to the quicklaunch and normal template and hopefully it persists

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland I was hoping the Record Macro feature would give me more ;D

@CamilStaps vaguely familiar. never worked with them before but I know the principle

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland I put it in the normal.dotm. Seems to always be available now

Maybe you can even replace the Ctrl+Shift+S shortcut :\

@OliverSalzburg yeah, I probably will have to go with something similar (I'll clean it up though)

Oliver Salzburg

Heheh, yeah, good idea ;D

6:00 PM

@CamilStaps in your shoes I would be looking for a pre-existing implementation of TCP/IP on top of the ethernet interface of that controller

@OliverSalzburg man that bothers me too about office 2010 LOL

actually, in your shoes, I would probably find a way to get out of your shoes and use something with some actual capability, like an ARM chip or at least something as powerful as a Raspberry Pi

user61389

@allquixotic it really doesn't do anything with processes or such - yeah that would be a good idea. The chip's manufacturer has something, but it isn't really documented unfortunately. The code I'm 'writing' is actually a port from another language, Jalv2, so I do have an example. But the codes are way to long to ask where I've gone wrong with porting, and I can't find it.

random ♦, Pacific Ocean

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@CamilStaps can you step through :S

I'm guessing not :D

user61389

6:02 PM

@allquixotic what do you mean?

Oliver Salzburg

@Sathya :D

@Sathya That actually concerns me a little...

@CamilStaps step through the code, line by line? maybe in a virtualization environment for your PIC?

@random upvote moar :P

@Tanner just pointing out that more downvotes doesn't really indicate a bad thing

user61389

6:03 PM

@allquixotic oh no, both language compile it and the asm won't look the same at all. Thanks for the idea though

Sathya ♦, Bangalore, India

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I should downvote more :P

@OliverSalzburg heh your code deletes anyfile you have which you accidentally "save as" the same file name :)

@CamilStaps :/ with some actual infrastructure, like a binary format, you could use gdb and its debugging symbols to be able to step through at the source line level

meh, I'm at about 10% downvotes :P

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland Humm? It's supposed to delete the original file. Worked when I tested it

6:05 PM

my votes are based on my mood :D

@OliverSalzburg yah, but if you pick the same name, it'll delete the same file ;)

user61389

@allquixotic I don't think that's possible with a PIC

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland Oh, lol :D

@OliverSalzburg maybe? I'm not sure, it might give an error message

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@Sathya for you ^^. :D

Oliver Salzburg

6:07 PM

@enderland Either way, I made sure that case is ignored now ;D

lol

my interest rep will ensure that even if I downvote 30 a day, I'll still end up with +ve rep.. almost :p

@OliverSalzburg every time i do stuff like this it's like using "rm" in linux - no undo!

total rep gained today: 30. 1 upvote each on an answer from '10,'11 & '12 ;D

err, wait, windows still probably puts it to recycle bin

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland If you delete something in Windows, it is deleted just like it would be with any other OS. If you delete something in Windows Explorer, that's a different topic ;)

6:11 PM

@OliverSalzburg hmmmm.. maybe I'll do a "move to recycle bin" just in case there is some weird edge case

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland How would you do that?

Google I guess :D vbadud.blogspot.de/2008/08/vba-send-file-to-recycle-bin.html

@Sathya interest rep. lol. i get that too. random upvotes on q's i've answered or asked

@allquixotic :D

@OliverSalzburg there are a lot of ways, either some vba/vb solution or even just calling some windows system library

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland Yeah, I was not aware that you can call (shell) API. VB(A) is a long time ago for me :P

6:15 PM

data.stackexchange.com/superuser/query/8116/my-money-for-jam

@OliverSalzburg I unfortunately use it pretty much daily :\

Public Declare Function CrashProgram(arg1 As Nothing, arg2 As NoIdeaWhatThisDoes, arg3 As VoidPointerToNowhere, arg4 As ReservedThatWillNeverBeUsed, arg5 As AlsoReserved, arg6 As EnoughArgumentsAlreadyJesus, arg7 As JustPutAZeroHere, arg8 As INowWantToDestroyTheWin32Subsystem) As Object

@OliverSalzburg .... though every time I do stuff in any programming language I feel like a wizard (I modified that code to do what I want)

the amazing thing is that almost every Win32 API call returns extremely quickly

by itself, any one API call doesn't take up all that much CPU time (or real time)

@allquixotic when called from vba you mean?

6:22 PM

@enderland in general

Oliver Salzburg

@allquixotic Not this one ;P

it's the aggregation/combination/iteration of the APIs that makes Windows slow, not the individual ones

@OliverSalzburg you sneaky... GRR lol :D

Oliver Salzburg

:D

I wish my questions were easy enough to answer in 11 minutes :(

@allquixotic most of my vba questinos never get answered. that guy is lucky!

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A: How to simultaneously rename a file in MS Office and delete old version?

The "easiest" way to answer this appears to be significantly building on this answer. Insert following code into normal.dotm template (found in C:\Documents and Settings\user name\Application Data\Microsoft\Templates for Windows 7) Save normal.dotm Add this to the quicklaunch toolbar in Word. O...

that is the "full" answer which does everything nicely and puts it on the quicklaunch toolbar

6:29 PM

superuser.com/search?q=user:144607+[vba]

this one took me like an hour ;x superuser.com/a/464027/144607

Oliver Salzburg

@enderland Well done!

We tried using Salmon but that attracted bears... We tried tuna once but that just got too expensive. So we settled on trout especially since their size was approriate, they were cost effective, and left a nice slimy trout smell. — Chad Nov 26 '12 at 22:24

This Chad guy.

You can not because the EU has limited the integration that MS is allowed to make between its products. Allowing office to rename a file would break those rules and make it a monoply — Chad 10 mins ago

the what?

@slhck ohlookitthat

Oliver Salzburg

@Sathya Is he on ketamine or something?

I... am not sure :p

6:33 PM

@slhck lol that was a joke... the MS thing is real

Well, not a real answer anyhow.

It kinda was just a fun answer... but evidently SU Does not like fun...

Oliver Salzburg

52 mins ago, by allquixotic

Blog - Stack Exchange: Stack Overflow: Where We Hate Fun

Jeff Atwood on January 04, 2010

I noticed that the Stack Overflow question Strangest language feature has been closed and reopened several times now. The text of the question is brief:

What is in your opinion the most surprising, weird, strange or really “WTF” language feature you have encountered?

I agree this is not exactly an ideal question for Stack Overflow, per the FAQ:

Avoid asking questions that are subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board, this is a place for questions that can be answered! …

@Chad Well, the whole point of the network is maintaining a high signal to noise ratio.

Oliver Salzburg

Fun makes me sick

6:35 PM

Be careful when @OliverSalzburg is around, he deleted the only 'fun' post we ever had on the site that survived more than a day or so.

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@slhck And I have no problem with downvotes/user deletion... a bit heavy handed for a mod though.

Your Forum your rules...

Well, we're not a forum either.

Oliver Salzburg

@Chad Every contribution of yours that was deleted had previously been flagged by a user

forum. ಠ_ಠ

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Its a saying that comes from ancient greece... you guys need to get out more :p

Oliver Salzburg

6:37 PM

@Chad I would, but they have horrible 3G coverage where I live

It was a real answer but if I write the truth then I am EU bashing so I wrote it as a make believe story.

nyway good luck

It was not an answer. Basically just a rant.

6:52 PM

@slhck Well thank you for explaining the reason for deletion... Going back to the rock i crawled out from. have a good day.

why does getting the last logon time out of AD have to suck so much? :(

Oliver Salzburg

7:12 PM

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A: Why does Google Chrome not want to be my default browser?

passive aggressive marketing @ its best, which means for us, totally sucks. specifically, you're saying that chrome doesn't isn't asking you when you boot it up...ok, but how's the browsercape(s) whilst you surf from tab to tab? for me, chrome ads everywhere. if not chrome, another google service...

What is it today?

That guy has over 300 answers on SO... probably all without a single capital letter O__O

@OliverSalzburg chuck it, deleted

7:45 PM

@OliverSalzburg wow that guy is weird. reminds me kind of like SpectateSwamp :D

7:59 PM

telusplanet.net/public/stonedan/source.txt

TIL it's a copyright violation if you capture Eiffel tower when it's lights are on. -_-

Oliver Salzburg

8:27 PM

Due to the striking illumination of the Eiffel Tower at night, many people take pictures. While it is perfectly fine to take photographs at any time of the day or night (unlike many internet photographers’ claims), the Société d’exploitation de la Tour Eiffel (SETE) has a copyright on the nightly illuminations. This means that every photograph of the Eiffel Tower at night with the illumination requires that a copyright be added in the following form:

© SETE – Illuminations Pierre Bideau

svenler.com/blog/photographing-the-eiffel-tower-at-night

superuser.com/questions/591241/… Is this even a legit question?

Oliver Salzburg

@Travis It should be worded differently IMO

The concern is legit, the question, in its current form, is stupid :P

lol

Oliver Salzburg

The first two questions are hard to answer and possible subjective. Maybe his CPU will run at a lower frequency once it gets too hot, but maybe it will simply shut off. Can he crawl a larger number of pages? Sure, why not?

8:46 PM

When I think "negative impact" from that, I'm thinking: lots of heat (potential cooling issues), high electric bill, slow performance for other tasks.. that kind of thing :P

Oliver Salzburg

The question I'm asking myself is, am I wasting perfectly good performance that's just lying around by not using 100% of my resources at all times.

@OliverSalzburg I wonder that too. Which is why I tend to like to run benchmarking software just to satisfy myself that I actually used the full capabilities of the hardware at some point in time. :P

Though I threw Folding@Home on my PC again recently. The client is much slicker than it was last I ran it (probably around 4-5 years ago)

Oliver Salzburg

@BenRichards Heheh, I used to run WorldCommunityGrid, but then I realized that that costs money :P

I'm debating mining bitcoins, actually. Haven't done a cost/benefit yet

Oliver Salzburg

I kinda liked the humanitarian aspect of WCG, but I never got the impression that there are coming any actual results out of it. Or maybe they're just not communicating them. That was somewhat disappointing

8:52 PM

from what I saw, mining solo almost never makes profit.

Folding@Home does get real results, and they communicate that well, which is cool

Oliver Salzburg

I do wonder though. What really happens with the results? Does some university get them and then some pharmaceutical company buys the final result and sells it back to us? :D

@Bibhas That's my hunch.

@OliverSalzburg nah, it's probably just a distributed AI that's going to run the world someday

Helios / Deus Ex

Oliver Salzburg

:D

9:10 PM

@OliverSalzburg en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Community_Grid#Completed_projects

Oliver Salzburg

@BenRichards Yeah, I took part in a lot of those

nods

Oliver Salzburg

But some of those completed years ago. I'm wondering what good it did

9:25 PM

@BenRichards only FPGAs are worth the energy cost, sadly :| unless you happen to have a special arrangement for energy like living on a wind farm and selling energy back to the grid :P

actually that's a brill idea... build wind farm, and a datacenter of BTC FPGAs right next to it, and get money for free from your own generated electricity

wind -> BTC -> $. lame but works

"A front's passing through! Overclock the FPGAs! Now!"

@allquixotic FPGAs? Bitcoin FPGAs? That happened?

Wow, nifty.

Still expensive. 30 days to break even? Dunno. Still intriguing though.

10:17 PM

@BenRichards oh yes :P GPUs aren't really profitable anymore; too inefficient compared to the value of BTC

Oliver Salzburg

10:55 PM

Damn, I just failed a review audit :P

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It was a misclick, I swear!

11:09 PM

@allquixotic Nifty.

Ok, going home now

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