Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:21

@BloodPhilia: set up mine to download torrents. Having a little problem with storage for now

Journeyman Geek

00:44

oooh

this is wierd

one of my desktops got blocked from SU

Bob

01:40

heh

slate.com/articles/technology/map_of_the_week/2013/03/…

allquixotic

02:30

O_O

SE down

Journeyman Geek

Its back up

Tanner

05:44

Stop the Cyborgs!!!1 stopthecyborgs.org

Too. Damn. Funny.

Make sure to visit the "about" page and check out their awesome "Google Glass ban" signs: stopthecyborgs.org/about

Journeyman Geek

I'd trade off cyborgs for keeping reader alive ;p

Tanner

06:03

I have to admit I never used Reader...

Never even tried it.

Journeyman Geek

06:20

@Tanner: its one of the best RSS feed readers there is

but hey, you arn't going to miss it as much as I do

that's fiiiiine ;p

Bob

06:40

@allquixotic IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD

KFunk

09:59

Hello. New to SO. Someone just edited my question, and it looks a lot more like my code should. Can someone tell me, or give me a resource, on how to post properly on the site so that my code gets proper formatting/indentation?

Journeyman Geek

we arn't on SO, but I'll help anyway ;p

KFunk

whoops. just now noticed that in the URL.

Journeyman Geek

hit the ? next to your ask a question button

;p

that simple, really

codeblocks are the {} button

you can also use fixed width on its own with backticks like this

KFunk

unfortunately, R (language) seems to not play nice with pasting into the {}

i clicked the button, it said 'put code here', when pasting, the <- operators in R seem to really mess up the code, not to mention the comments (#) seem to make h1 looking tags

Journeyman Geek

o0

could you give me an example?

ahh

you need to use pre tags

pretty crappy pick, but you need to use the last one

and it seems to work for me

KFunk

10:21

ahhh.. paste, then highlight, then click

that's workin'

thanks!

Journeyman Geek

np ^^

Boris_yo

10:51

@JourneymanGeek There's W8 OEM for $119 and W8 Upgrade for $69

Why not buy W8 Upgrade for cheaper and install it on W8 Consumer Preview? Would that work and worth 50% savings?

Or previous Windows has to be with purchased license already?

Bob

@KFunk you're supposed to highlight your code then click the button

or indent everything by four spaces

@Boris_yo because you can't install the CP anymore, because that upgrade path is not supported (and technically in violation of the EULA), etc., etc., etc.

Boris_yo

11:07

@Bob I offered with W8 OEM only at the time of purchase of new destop PC. If I forfeit but after decide I want W8 OEM they will not honor my request due to their policy that say I can only get W8 OEM at the time of purchase. They don't sell RETAIL, they only sell W8 Upgrade retail. I guess I am better use that opportunity to buy OEM version at the purchase of new computer?

I don't know if Windows XP would be better for senior PC beginner person because XP is kind of old but XP assumes that person won't need to shell $119 on W8 OEM.

Bob

@Boris_yo There's no such thing as Win8 retail

There's System Builder ('OEM', smaller shops, includes Personal Use licence), then there's OEM (large companies, e.g. Dell)

@Boris_yo We're trying to get people away from XP, not to it. It's over a decade old now, it's just about out of support. Don't use it.

Purchasing XP at the time was rather expensive, too.

Boris_yo

I think I am confusing 1 time install and having same license carried to another PC and making that license work on it. I am referring to transferrable license so if your current PC gets ditched and you buy new, you can use license and transfer it to newer PC.

Bob

The only reason you "don't have to pay" for an OEM copy of Windows with computer purchases (from larger companies) is because that's part of the cost of the computer already.

@Boris_yo Go read the PUL licence terms on the MS website.

Or search on Super User or Google.

I am not going through this again; I've already answered this several times on Super User...

Boris_yo

I hated that there was no usual start menu on W8. Funny the difference between W7 and W8 is $2 where I live.

Bob

...Start8 costs $5 and works well. But that's your choice.

Journeyman Geek

11:30

@Boris_yo: the start screen is not that bad

there's also classic shell, iirc which is free

Sathya

11:42

@jou how many sites did NewsBlur allow you to add as part of the free tier? 12 or 64?

Journeyman Geek

12

I have roughly 900. though quite a few are dead ;p

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek that was a stop gap measure

the free version is for 64 feeds..

github.com/samuelclay/NewsBlur/commit/…

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: nowhere near enough ;p

64 is better I guess

Sathya

yeah, well the paid one is 12/year

Journeyman Geek

yeah, seriously considering it if TOR or Digg's vapor-reader don't pan out

which is looking likely

Sathya

11:45

(i'm on my second year of the paid subscription, btw)

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: eh, I think I',m still in the denial stage of grief ;p

he's also apparently removed the $12 a year tier ._.

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek wdym

Journeyman Geek

wdym?

Sathya

ooh, yeah it's $24

@JourneymanGeek what do you mean :P

Journeyman Geek

I don't blame him

but seriously, there's a huge hole in the newsreader market

Sathya

11:49

@JourneymanGeek fwiw I've been paying $24, not $12

I thought there was a new $12 plan added on

Journeyman Geek

there was when I first looked at it ;p

I'm tempted

Sathya

ah

Journeyman Geek

lol

not doubting that

I'm just figuring that once the immediate shock dies out, people work out what's needed and we arn't going to take down sites due to sheer panic ;p

As I mentioned on G+ every alternative I tried, even TTRSS was overloaded

Sathya

yeah

that's what happens when google-scale service is set to be killed I guess

Journeyman Geek

They could have had more warning, but apparently google reader has always been a bit of a red headed stepchild

Sathya

11:54

sooo many dead feeds -.-

Journeyman Geek

and unlike wave, its too mature to spin off (though by god, I will spend as much time as it takes setting up a instance if they do)

@Sathya: same issue here

HackToHell

goodnoows is awesome :P

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: I don't like the grid view

the closest one to 'livable' I have is The Old Reader

HackToHell

there are many views ;p

Sathya

sigh

-1

Q: How safe are firefox addones / browser extensions?

I want to know how safe firefox addons/extensions are. More specificly, assuming I have 2 firefox extensions Extension-A and Extension-M: What can possibly happen if we assume that the Extension-M is malicious? (I can think of many possible result - any combination of those below) 1) nothing r...

follows up with

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Q: Can a firefox extension delete/read files from my PC?

I am concerned about what security risks are involved when intalling a firefox extension/addon? Can a firefox extension read, modify or delete files on my PC? It would also be nice to get a broader response as asked for here (How safe are firefox addones / browser extensions?) PS: This time S...

security firefox-extensions

jokerdino

12:02

@HackToHell what?

humanityANDpeace

@Sathya.- it the quesdtion better now?

HackToHell

@jokerdino goodnoows.com

humanityANDpeace

come on@ Santhya, the former question is so hard to understand?

really?

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: I don't see anything that I'm happy with there

humanityANDpeace

I rather think you like if there is a question that you can downrate and kick out

HackToHell

12:03

:(

humanityANDpeace

must give you a thrill to be so mighty

thank you!

HackToHell

sigh

Journeyman Geek

@humanityANDpeace: Its pretty common to discuss questions on chat

humanityANDpeace

@JourneymanGeek ok? what would that mean?

HackToHell

@humanityANDpeace superuser.com/faq#dontask

> You should only ask practical, answerable questions based on actual problems that you face. Chatty, open-ended questions diminish the usefulness of our site and push other questions off the front page.

humanityANDpeace

12:04

you never post a message without prior approvel by the people in the root chat?

Journeyman Geek

@humanityANDpeace: That it isn't like, just you.

humanityANDpeace

@HackToHell: And so why do you think that the question superuser.com/questions/567254/… is not practical? have you read it ?

jokerdino

wait a minute. my message is being processed by the overlords.

HackToHell

what ?

Journeyman Geek

we are talking hypothethicals here I guess.

humanityANDpeace

12:06

@HackToHell Inside it asks about several possible (hence practiable ro be answered) things that can happend, but I do not know about? So one could defn. answer it

Sathya

thank you for closing Sathya. Just because you are incapable of getting the point!. Great! Sure the question was impossible, right? Just like to be the mighty guy executing his power. I really hate this ignorance. You really seem to like being unhelpful! — humanityANDpeace 5 mins ago

Journeyman Geek

And.. do you wander into chat whenever a question is closed, to get annoyed at a mod, or is this a co-incidence?

humanityANDpeace

@HackToHell that is if one WANTS to do so. Else if one is keen on being the funky moderator it is easy to downvote

Sathya

yep, me giving over 1290 answers is definitely me liking to be unhelpful.

HackToHell

Blog - Stack Exchange: Good Subjective, Bad Subjective

Robert Cartaino on September 29, 2010

Stack Exchange is about questions with objective, factual answers. We’ve been crystal clear about this for as long as I can remember, even back to the earliest, pre-beta days of Stack Overflow. It’s right there in the standard Stack Exchange FAQ:

What kind of questions should I not ask here?

Avoid asking questions that are subjective, argumentative, or require extended discussion. This is not a discussion board, this is a place for questions that can be answered!

Thus, questions that are not answerable — discussions, debates, opinions — should be closed as subjective. It seems simple enough: Fact good; opinion and discussion bad. But why? …

humanityANDpeace

12:07

yes

I am annoyed

Journeyman Geek

@humanityANDpeace: funny thing, we have a process to deal with this

jokerdino

no peace here.

humanityANDpeace

this is def the to get peole not to use superuser.com anymore

HackToHell

Go on now post in the meta :P

Journeyman Geek

Cool down, go to meta, write a compelling post to convince 5 people the question needs to be re-opened

humanityANDpeace

12:07

if the best a mod can do is close as question. being unable to (at least comment for improvement first)

Journeyman Geek

cooling down is optional

HackToHell

lol

Journeyman Geek

It will be VERY helpful however

jokerdino

@humanityANDpeace i thought you would rather want some kind of answer in the chat. i was wrong :(

humanityANDpeace

@Sathya sure I put in a personal dedicated note for you . I am not a cruel man. And I want you to understand the problem!

@Santhy: you do not mind, do oyu?

Sathya

12:08

@hum It would help if you could get my name right, first and foremost.

@hum secondly, I didn't go on a witchhunt for your post, your post was flagged as not constructive, I agreed & voted to close it.

HackToHell

Oi, Santhy aunty

humanityANDpeace

@JourneymanGeek thank you for the hint wiht the 5 persons and meta.

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: sush you ;p

HackToHell

nickname for @Sathya \o/

Sathya

@hum if you feel it's definitely constructive, post on Meta Super User saying why it is constructive (hint: Try not to be so vague & hypotethical, your second one is much better) & you could get it reopened

humanityANDpeace

12:10

@JourneymanGeek I think it is wrong for me to do so, this way I would just acknowledge the unfair power of Sathya, which I do not wanna do

Journeyman Geek

@humanityANDpeace: he's an elected mod. He's also answered a lot of questions

Sathya

@hum and finally, saying things like "I like being unhelpful" etc isn't going to do you any favours

(personally, I don't care)

humanityANDpeace

If the mod @saytha thinks he does so, HELL then there will be only those anying how to get my DRIVER XYZ answers left, but not that maybe need answer

Journeyman Geek

(so have I, well, not the mod part)

Sathya

and still you can't get my name right. sigh

Journeyman Geek

12:11

@humanityANDpeace: How exactly does railing at a mod help you re-open the question?

humanityANDpeace

@JourneymanGeek And after all the question concerned is not at all unaswerable and to my opion quite important

Sathya

I'm done.

humanityANDpeace

@Sathya I am sorry this became personal I wish I was not so pissed of by the action I have seen from you

Journeyman Geek

@humanityANDpeace: Meta. I'd note tho, I'd be VERY tempted to torpedo that

@humanityANDpeace: questions get closed all the time

including some of mine, by mods.

HackToHell

@jokerdino call @Sathya as santhy !!

Journeyman Geek

12:13

I'd be like "oh? But... ok!"

jokerdino

Shanthi? lol

Journeyman Geek

or go to meta and get things done

Sathya

(btw, mods are not exempt from question closure either, few of my questions have been closed)

HackToHell

@jokerdino \o/ !

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: nor are you guys infallible ;p

Sathya

12:14

on an unrelated note, my DSL router is not accepting the credentials O-o wut

Journeyman Geek

you're only human

Sathya

true that

Journeyman Geek

;p

but getting annoyed at a mod for doing a moddy thing is just...

@Sathya: you missed the great AU spam-valange

OH

HackToHell

ice anyone ;p ?

Sathya

@JourneymanGeek the tv show thingy?

Journeyman Geek

12:15

ya

HackToHell

what happened ?

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: massive amounts of spam

Sathya

11

A: What can we do about all the reoccurring spam?

Help prevent this spam in the first place? There's not much that can be done, honestly. Spammers will spam. IP address blacklists/bans aren't particularly useful because the IP address used by spammers are a huge range & varies a lot. This is leads to a whack-a-mole contest & you end...

humanityANDpeace

@HackToHell: thanks for the ice!°

Journeyman Geek

people ran out of flags

Sathya

12:15

@JourneymanGeek wow, okay

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: I think one of the mods came in, and was basically sitting at the new questions screen playing whackamole

2

and I got like 10 flags in about as many minutes

HackToHell

Someone wrote a effective bot ;p

Sathya

yikes

jokerdino

lol we got more than 150+ spam posts earlier today

Sathya

13 mins ago, by Sathya

on an unrelated note, my DSL router is not accepting the credentials O-o wut

coming back to this

half tempted to reset to factory, but scared if it doesn't accept even after that then I'll be cut off :/

Bibhas

12:31

No spare router?

Sathya

nope

Bob

@Sathya wait... how does this work?

Sathya

@Bob how do you mean?

Bob

Does it require some external server?

Or can you host it all locally, in which case there aren't any restrictions?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: its FOSS but the hosted software has a monthly charge

Sathya

12:35

@Bob he offers a free hosted version (on his servers) for free (limited to x feeds), premium account ( no restrictions) or you can host it on your own by cloning the git repo & installing it yourself

Also consider bandwidth usage when hosting your own RSS reader. Polling a RSS feed for latest posts is a bandwidth intensive process for both client and server. Fetching intervals need to be configured and managed closely with ttRSS. If not careful, you can exceed usage allowance easily and cause unnecessary traffic to the host server. I like to set it up to fetch only when I click on the feed (at time of reading). — SaultDon 2 days ago

Bob

@JourneymanGeek O.O

Journeyman Geek

ooh

selfoss.aditu.de looks good

might try it later this week

Bob

@Sathya @JourneymanGeek I see. Thanks.

Why don't you host it yourself, then? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: currently the killer feature for me is hiding feeds with no new posts

Sathya

@Bob newsblur? too much of pain, requires too many servers :P

Journeyman Geek

12:42

@Bob: considering it ;p

Bob

Many... servers? :S

oh, configured for AWS

I guess it would be rather painful to try to change it to use one server

though even the most basic of servers should be able to hold up to a single user

Sathya

@Bob github.com/samuelclay/NewsBlur/#installation-instructions

Journeyman Geek

@Sathya: I have a configured tt-rss server thanks to @oliversalzburg Not quite sure how to get it to show the whole RSS feeds yet, been busy ;p

Sathya

hah

would be great for Super User blog

Bob

@Sathya doesn't look too hard

holy shit

lowendbox.com/blog/…

$7 for 5 GB of RAM and 2 TB of bandwidth

Journeyman Geek

12:47

did it just say.... 5gb?

Bob

yea

no problems hosting NewsBlur on that monster :P

would be more expensive than just a premium account though

unless you happened to have other stuff you wanted to run

HackToHell

7$ per month :/

If anyone gets Newsblur up and running blog about it :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'm thinking of just throwing it on the pi or my old 'server'

Bob

not sure how well it'll run on a Pi :P

Journeyman Geek

science, man, science ;p

Bob

13:00

lol

don't burn your house down

I'm considering getting a heatsink for my Pi

Journeyman Geek

or a VM on my desktop

which is a tiny bit of a monster as is

Bob

13:15

2

Journeyman Geek

13:39

blah

I have gotten selfoss installed but I seem to be having issues with rewrite

Boris_yo

CSI? Reminds me of these crime investigation TV series... Blah

I hate series! Only movies though the further we live the worse movies get.

@JourneymanGeek ^ BLAH!

@Bob Thumbs up for extensive answer!
http://superuser.com/a/495100/73190

Bob

14:00

@Boris_yo I've just clarified it a bit - this only applies if you purchase the system builder ('OEM') licence, and purchase it separate from the computer. Installation media provided by actual OEMs, such as Dell, are still restricted

and beware of online stores selling 'OEM' copies - they might be actual vendor-locked versions (e.g. a Dell Windows installation disk normally does not work on a non-Dell computer)

yes, I like using Dell as an example of an OEM..

Boris_yo

@Bob G.SKILL 4GB 1333Mhz vs. Transcend 4GB 1333Mhz

Which in your opinion is more reliable?

Bob

I don't know. Nor to I particularly care - if it tests with no errors, I'm happy. If there's errors, I get it replaced.

I don't know the failure rates, but both of those are fairly reputable.

Personally, I'd probably just go for the cheaper one (assuming latencies are the same, etc.) :P

Boris_yo

14:18

Subconsciously I somehow thought G.SKILL is for gaming systems because modules are overclocked.

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo: kingston ;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Kingston is overclocked?

Journeyman Geek

no, its reliable ;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek I remember there was Kingmax. Are they still in business?

Journeyman Geek

never heard of em

Boris_yo

14:27

"Overwhelming evidence has surfaced to prove that Sandy Hook is a hoax. For example, the recently released CNN helicopter footage that is supposed to show children escaping from the school is obviously set somewhere else. The "grieving" parents are surprisingly joyful during their interviews. The footage from the early hours of the incident shows a traffic pattern that makes it impossible for emergency vehicles to operate."

Once it was conspiracy theory - no longer it is.

Conspiracy theory is unofficial version of events.

HackToHell

goo.hacktohell.org/ff5

Finally got it working ;p

fing php

Journeyman Geek

nice

reminds me of the old google web page RSS thing

which they killed ;p

HackToHell

14:44

It usually messes up in finding the body of the text ;p

Journeyman Geek

lol

needs more tweaking I guess ;p

HackToHell

I have to manually find the div and enter it there for it to work properly tho

/no tho ^^

HackToHell

15:01

Boris_yo

Hmmmm... to buy assembled desktop computer from local business or let somebody build desktop computer part by part and have warranty all over the places...

HackToHell

Boris_yo

@HackToHell Consumerism is a disease! \./

Buy, consume content, brain food yeah!

Hennes

15:30

@Boris_yo Build from parts and have warranty all over the 2 or 3 shops you bought the parts from ?

Luke

15:53

@oliversalzburg if someone comes in, turns me on then turns me off, they should leave... as the light switch would say

allquixotic

16:06

@Boris_yo rofl! heroes of might and magic?

Boris_yo

@allquixotic Yes!

@Hennes Yes though could come out cheaper than buying from only 1 shop.

Hennes

That depends a lot of shipping costs (if any)

I usually order at two web shops, then cycle to them to collect. (about 12 km)

Boris_yo

If somebody spies through webcam how hard is it to tell? My webcam when activated has LED turned on.

Rudá Almeida

I just found a Win98 install CD and DOS 6.22 install disks on a pile of old stuff I'm throwing away

Boris_yo

@RudáAlmeida Don't throw because they may sell well in next 100 years as antiques.

Boris_yo

16:35

@Hennes Oh I am smarter than that. See, I order processor in Taiwan, video card in Japan, hard drive in Korea, motherboard in USA and chassis in China. Talking about smart buy.

Hennes

16:57

Well, a chassis is something you only order once per decade. (At least when you order a good one). They tend to last a long time.

jokerdino

17:18

I thought you guys might like this

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 24 mins ago, by jokerdino

Hennes

Youch

Sathya

@jokerdino wow

have you taken it up with the Comm team?

jokerdino

i forgot to that. that's just 1/3 of the whole attack.

Sathya

O-o

jokerdino

they blacklisted certain words. it seemed to have helped.

Sathya

17:31

@jokerdino okay

Bob

@Boris_yo .would be rather boring watching someone's face :\

@RudáAlmeida :D

@jokerdino uhh...

I can imagine someone being rather annoyed at their bot :P

Y U STUCK IN INFINITE LOOP

jokerdino

lol

UFC 158

Boris_yo

17:51

@Bob Desktop computer is stuck in infinite loop and no beeps are heard. Reason? Disconnected speaker? Short? Something loose? Maybe but anything else other than this?

Bob

@Boris_yo What? I was making a joke about the spam...

@jokerdino ?

Boris_yo

Who uses what software for video editing? Audio and video tracks, picture-in-picture editing and similar features.

jokerdino

@Bob it was the UFC spam.

Bob

ah

Boris_yo

@Bob Yea I understood that. I just brought up issue I had recently. Anyway...

@Hennes Thermaltakes and Antecs are leaders but ever heard about Sharpoons?

Hennes

17:55

I heard of sharpoons.

Boris_yo

Recently there are a lot questions which could be better asked on different sections of Stack Exchange.

Hennes

But only because I read a lot of reviews on silentPCs before I assembled my not quite as silent as hoped desktop

Granted, my CPU fan is silent. The half dozen drives is not

Boris_yo

@Hennes No worries. Not so soon SSDs will push HDDs out of marketplace and will dominate, until there will be new beasts that have non-wearable NAND memory.

Dang, SSDs won't fall in price. And I observe marketplace for half a year now.

Sathya

18:15

one more for @JourneymanGeek & @bob, this can be hosted on heroku for free github.com/socketubs/leselys demo site: leselys.herokuapp.com (login with demo/demo)

Bob

TIL heroku

Sathya

@Bob O-o you didn't know about heroku?

Bob

nup

Sathya

(there's appfog on a similar note)

Bob

knew about AWS and GApps

and maybe one or two more I can't remember right now

never heard of appfog either

Boris_yo

18:23

@Bob Do you pay monthly for AWS or for what you use?

Bob

@Boris_yo Pricing is... complicated.

aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing

(and that's just for EC2)

Sathya

complicated would be an understatement

Bob

@Sathya huh.. they offer ratehr a lot for free..

Sathya

anyway, I'm off. have a good one all

Bob

cya

Boris_yo

18:36

@Bob I assume Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud is different than Amazon Web Services? aws.amazon.com

Bob

EC@ (along with a wide range of other things) is part of AWS

Einsteins Grandson

19:09

hey guys

is there a way how to find out the URL of this stream?

sknazivo.com/tv/kanal.php?id=1

Hennes

19:23

If I follow that link and look at the page source I see this:

H1>STV1 Online</H1><div><embed type='application/x-vlc-plugin' pluginspage='http://www.videolan.org' version='VideoLAN.VLCPlugin.2' id='embed_video_player' autoplay='yes' loop='yes' volume='100' height='420' width='600' target='http://88.212.11.203:5000/live/26/26.m3u8'/></div>

I copied the 88.212.11.203:5000/live/26/26.m3u8 part, it opened in vlc and after half a minutes it started a brief movie clip

Boris_yo

19:39

@EinsteinsGrandson You can download if that is your intent. Use DownloadHelper Firefox extension to sniff media.

Hennes

20:58

Oh soooo true.

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