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Bob
Bob
15:00
lol
well, I don't think I can reproduce the crash
Yep, it's running on the Intel IGP
Bob
Bob
Great, my... touchpad just crashed? O.O
how the f-
oh, funny story: Paint.net causes my Radeon HD7970 to TDR (crash the driver) and it makes all pixmaps on the system black until you mouse over them
I can do a 10 hour gaming session non-stop with no issues in Star Wars: TOR, but 5 minutes of Paint.net breaks Catalyst
Bob
Bob
ah, that's always fun
now, uh
your touchpad?!
Bob
Bob
15:03
how to I restart my touchpad? O.O
your touchpad is probably USB
Bob
Bob
nup
PS/2
according to the Device Manager, anyway
you could uninstall it in device manager and reinstall it by detecting new hardware
Bob
Bob
uhh
I'd rather restart the computer :P
lol, go for it
Bob
Bob
15:05
I've had really bad experiences with reinstalling drivers recently
sounds like you've had really bad experiences period
Bob
Bob
hm
vbox crashing, vmware crashing the host, tv tuner not working on the host, touchpad randomly dying...
Bob
Bob
perhaps
all weird, not really related issues
Bob
Bob
15:05
why is there no disable button for the touchpad
maybe because it's not plug and play XD
Bob
Bob
I swear all this is cause of Win8
ah crap
I just uninstalled the touchpad
"Scan for hardware changes"
Bob
Bob
and it won't reinstall
tried that
this isn't good
I'm going to restart
at least the keyboard works
damn
I don't think I can navigate VMware Player with a keyboard
alt-f4 :P
Bob
Bob
15:09
lol
yea, went with that
ctrl+alt then alt+f4 then winkey+r
get to the console and use the console based shutdown if you can't figure out another way
Bob
Bob
I think I broke it
It's now detected as a standard mouse
Also, BSoD on restart
wtf is going on here
Bob
Bob
15:29
There. Fixed it.
Instead of downloading a 107MB driver package (WTF, it's just touchpad drivers!), I managed to find an old extracted installer HP was kind enough to leave lying around :P
it worked, at least.
hm
still some minor graphics glitches
white spots randomly appearing on the wallpaper
15:51
@Bob not entirely unprecedented, though I'd lean towards a host graphics driver bug, since on my Radeon HD7970 I get random artifacts (though uncommon, not constantly) in games
I love it when offices buy cheap home computers with Windows 8 from Gateway preinstalled with Norton and then wonder why everything's broken :|
Bob
Bob
:S
actually, that wouldn't break most programs used in office environments
except maybe the user's brain
Lo
And GRah!
How do I bold single letters in comments?
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Q: How can I use tar command to group files without compression?

SergI have a very large folder of 120,000+ files. and I need to move them to another location on my same machine (same partition). I'd like to use the tar command to group them up as a single unit and then mv them to the end location. What command do I need to run to tar them all together and not c...

I can not use **e**xample. And <b>e</b>xample works in posts but not in comments.
Bob
Bob
@Hennes In this case, you could just monospace it
create
c reate
bleh
* * c * * [space] reate ?
Also a kludge :(
A working one though
Bob
Bob
15:59
**c**&shy;reate
aww
@Bob Well, for some reason it decided to uninstall everything that is Citrix, and then proceeded to bork the graphics drivers to the point where it's barely usable remotely. I gave up and told them to take it back.
Mostly because I'm not even supposed to support that machine.
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Q: Comment Inline Code Markdown Bug

Tim Yi JiangUsing inline code Markdown (backticks ``) in comments and following it immediately with a non-whitespace character breaks the Markdown causing the backticks to appear and not having the stuff inside the backticks interpreted as code. Strangely this behavior does not appear within posts and answer...

You do not run your own installls to clean bloatware?
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@Hennes re-imaging an OEM computer is the first thing you should do
Well, clean bloatware and format it the same way as all office computers, using the exact same default setup. Which is the only sensible thing if the organisation is large enough (and possibly a waste if it only has two computers - not sure where the cutt-off point it precisely)
Bob
Bob
16:03
@OliverSalzburg That's working for code. But it does not work for other formatting.
@Bob Yeah, maybe the topic needs to be rebooted ;D
I can already imagine the reply...
"Comments are second class citizens. Get over it!"
To which you could answer "so just post all comment as answers?' and lean back, waiting for fiery replies
@Hennes I do when I have control. Unfortunately this particular location is essentially a customer of ours. They bring their own device, office setup, etc, we provide admin services along with our Citrix environment.
Also they're three time zones away from me, haha
@allquixotic I like the turtle =D
Well, I try to work around it. So far I found no solutions, but then I never heard of &shy; before.
So I learned something new
16:12
@r.tanner.f You're supposed to say, "Hello, mine turtle!"
or if you know German, "Hello, mein turtle!"
look up mine turtle on youtube
@OliverSalzburg Chat comments are second class citizens too apparentl**y**
And
`broken`
@allquixotic I think chat also uses the same mini-markdown
Feels like it anyway
SE has to invest so many resources into being efficient at the cost of features because it runs on Windows =D If it ran on Linux or even UNIX, it could give us all the features we want (including HTTPS everywhere) without sacrificing speed /troll
Sorry, no chat hats, too slow :P Sorry, no HTTPS except for login, too slow :P Sorry, no full markdown in chat or comments, too slow :P Sorry, no reliable uptime, we don't use a real operating system :P
@allquixotic It was a narq when I first glanced it, but some good soul(God bless him/her) cut out the crap superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/69126
@allquixotic I bet that's also why they won't give us the hierarchical tagging
@Sathya ah, I didn't see the edit
that's actually a really, really, really good edit
@OliverSalzburg I definitely don't blame them for having a strong focus on delightful performance site-wide and being able to maintain scalability and stuff, but if you just compare something like Team Foundation Server to git, you'll immediately recognize just how slow Microsoft products are, so by basing your product on them, you're already extremely limited in what you can do
16:25
@allquixotic libgit2 will fix that, I'm sure ;D
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frankly I am VERY satisfied with the performance of SE as-is, and also amazed that it works as well as it does on top of a Microsoft platform. but it's also constrained by the stack it runs on.
I really have no performance complaints about SE
That returns surprisingly quickly :D
yeah -- it's definitely fast as-is -- but they shoot down so many great ideas because of performance, and unless there's some kind of non-polynomial problem buried within each of those ideas, you really should be able to do it performantly
Maybe it would just take a month to refactor the codebase so that no performance penalty would be involved. But that would cost a lot of money for some feature. So you rather tell the user "It's a performance issue" instead of "We don't want to spend the money on your feature request"
16:49
hey guys on a redhat system how do i grant a user access via ssh and a key as opposed to a password?
Ok, for the third time today my Google+ tab in Chrome crashed. It does that pretty often actually
So I clicked the "What to do when this happens often" link on the dead-tab-page
Yeah... how about you fix your friggin site?
@OliverSalzburg Aw, double-snap!
wouldn't it be funny if you got "Aw, snap" when trying to view the help
@hanleyhansen have them create a keypair, give you the public key, put it in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, then edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and (at your option) disable password authentication if you don't want to allow password-based auth
@allquixotic exact answer i was looking for
i put it in the user's home directory right?
16:56
First day of work and I hit the rep cap... That's not going to look good
@hanleyhansen That's what ~ means ;)
@hanleyhansen yes, but since it's in the user's home directory and ~/.ssh has to have permissions 700 and the files within have to have permissions 700 or 400, the user will essentially be able to modify the public key to allow any public key they want to authenticate, not only the one you grant
also this type of thing is exceedingly common; google "ssh public key authentication" and you'll get 1000+ articles that say it better than I do
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Wait, it has to be writable? o.O
@OliverSalzburg How does this music make you feel? youtube.com/…
17:27
@Boris_yo Makes me feel like never visiting YouTube again because it's constantly buffering
@OliverSalzburg Try this link: youtu.be/HYUBz0wZGLk?t=1m16s
Well you seem to be on a slow connection I assume?
Better listen in calm place in with earphones.
Whow, what a day. First the customer with Windows 95, and one hour ago I've received a PC with Pentium II and Windows 2000 to repair.
back to the... past
@Boris_yo 64mbit
Google seems to have a CDN node right next to my house. And it's hooked up via dial-up or something
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@OliverSalzburg Just like I said- slow. Catch up man, we are in 2315 with 64Petabits.
17:31
@OliverSalzburg It is connected with Dial-UP? Is it 1997?
knocking off for today. See ya.
@JohannesM Ceeya
In all seriousness though. I think YouTube content is copied to global CDN nodes on a per-need basis. If a video isn't viewed at all in Europe, it won't be available there and has to be streamed from a node in the US
I frequently observe very different performance patterns based on if I watch a YouTube channel located in the US or in Germany.
Germany videos always load fast and run fine. US channels, not so much
That coupled with the non-existent caching behavior of the YouTube Flash player in Chrome makes for the perfectly horrible viewing experience.
17:48
@OliverSalzburg How do you know it is next to you house? How do you know where streaming comes from?
@Boris_yo I don't actually believe there's a CDN node next to my house. That was an exaggeration to illustrate that performance is particularly poor under certain conditions.
However, I'm sure the content I'm viewing is provided through a CDN. And CDNs really only make sense when you take geographical distribution into account.
@JohannesM Next up, a customer with the legendary windows Macintosh Edition (windows ME)
Thus, it is very likely that a CDN node exists in Germany. Also, it makes sense to only keep popular content concentrated in a certain geographical area.
@Bob the ~/.ssh directory has to be executable; I guess 5 would work... the files within the directory only have to be readable... but even if you give the dir 500, the user can chmod back to 700, get in there, write a file (or chmod 600 authorized_keys) and modify it
@OliverSalzburg I would agree. Sometimes I get a youtube video that just baaaaaarely keeps up with the rate of playback (sometimes not even that fast) and refreshing the page fixes it :P
@allquixotic For me, it's usually getting frustrated and trying a different browser. Where it suddenly loads fine. Then I go back to Chrome to double-check this mind-baffling occurence... then it plays fine in Chrome as well!
17:57
@Hennes Is it really Macintosh Edition? ME is its abbreviation?
@OliverSalzburg Understood!
Millenium edition. cough nmed in honour of the y2k bug. :)
@Hennes Yes now I remember. Millenium, Willenium Will2K
@Hennes My family had one year of food and three years of coffee squirreled away for that apocalypse.
Those are good priorities :)
@r.tanner.f Squerreled away? Don't you mean squered away?
18:01
Right? We can find food in the apocalypse. Coffee? That might get tough. And we won't survive without coffee.
@r.tanner.f Like squerrels can't survive without nuts?
@Boris_yo Nah. Squirrel. Like the little fuzzy creature that stashes nuts everywhere.
@r.tanner.f Also, you can most likely trade coffee well under these circumstances
It's post-apocalyptical bling!
Oh, we had no trading plans. Our "trading" plans involved guns. Lots of them.
Yeah 2000 was actually a little disappointing. We were all geared up and nothin' happened. xD
@r.tanner.f Oh I get it - you need coffee to not fall asleep and be on guard for zombie shootout? But then, why didn't you squerrel away weapons?
18:06
@Boris_yo No. We needed the coffee so we wouldn't murder each other in the mornings. Things get ugly when the coffee runs out...
@r.tanner.f Do you substitute human flesh for coffe then?
lol I try not to :P
@r.tanner.f Maybe squerrels are good substitute.
Hard too catch though.
Him? Yes.
For anyone who follows Canadian politics (or just wants to poke fun at our Prime Minister): youtube.com/watch?v=3bVGPya-r8M
Seems like I completely missed that one
 
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In case of an apocalypse I will take good care of my coffee plants.
 
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20:57
Oh, shiny new menu in Canary:
@OliverSalzburg free photoshop cs2?
@allquixotic Well, to my understanding, you're only supposed to use it if you have a valid license
The story seems to be that they provided those downloads for CS2 customers that could no longer activate (Adobe killed the activation servers)
But, it seems like people just can't keep a secret!
21:15
Heya, how is everyone?
@Mokubai Well, thanks :) How are you?
Oh, new stuff on GitHub
There's an interesting Contributions tab on the profile
Don't you love when you get badges for many, many, many views on questions... But no upvotes?
@Luke Well, that just means people are coming in from Google and don't have an account
And, maybe, many people come from Google because the keywords are there... just not the solution ;D
21:30
@OliverSalzburg Not bad, how's life treating you these days?
Still enjoying the god-like powers of Mod-ship?
:D
I'm currently messing around with writing userscripts. Fun!
userscripts are cool, but I'm too lazy to hunt down the ones I had before I reinstalled
Hmmm. I want the Aero Glass effect back
21:45
@Mokubai I faintly remember reading a question about that
Ooh, I could get used to the Metro/Modern UI for Netflix... neato
@OliverSalzburg I I saw a few things, but they seem to say "no dice"
not without hacky cludgy things
@Mokubai Oh, ok :\
I'll live... I kinda like the new UI for certain things
Though that could be annoying, going to the "start" menu kills the app running in Metro on the second screen
 
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23:08
I just led a user through the steps described on the forum. Read down and you'll see his "Oops! Wrong button!" post. :P Had to do the same thing to my user.
Wouldn't happen on SE.
You had to press a button on your user? :)
Bob
Bob
Running Firefox Beta on the release channel? O.O
@Hennes Oh the joys of grammar =D
23:27
@Bob Version 18? TOO OLD! TROLOLOL
Soon....... firefox version 365 ... ;-)
My wife is forced to use 3.5.x I think? Work won't upgrade her laptop, so her OS X version is too old to go any higher.
@r.tanner.f Maybe this works? floodgap.com/software/tenfourfox
23:45
@DanielBeck Whoa, thanks =D
@r.tanner.f You're welcome. But seriously, 2005 called and wants its hardware back. I used to have the very last PPC Mac ever announced and replaced it in 2008. It wasn't that much fun anymore even back then...
Right? I've been thinking about sabotaging the thing, just to put it out of its misery.
Or just get her a bluetooth keyboard and tell her to take one of our iPads to work; all her apps are web based
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