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02:32
Not the best lighting... but the printer proved much larger than was initially apparent.
Anyhoo, that corner space has always needed some sort of task lighting because of the way the room is lit, so... off to buy some under-cabinet lights.
I'll also need to reorganize my desk. It's long overdue.
It's still going to be very busy.
02:57
@MiG in this case supposedly the Chechen units
Cause they literally didn't trust their own folks to medivac a greviously wounded CO
Granted the worst you could do was skimp on the happy juice
lol @ "happy juice"
 
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11:57
Printer IP settings... should I use both a static IP and a DHCP reservation, as suggested by Xerox?
They recommend using a DHCP reservation FWIW.
Already did both, but just curious about what you folks think. I've always used either of the two, not both.
> When you set a static IP address, Xerox recommends that you set a DHCP reservation at the same time.
> Note: Xerox recommends using DHCP reservations to assign IP addresses to your printers. DHCP reservations provide the most consistent IP addresses and the ability to connect with the Host Name.
Hmm...
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12:13
@JourneymanGeek kadyrov is another example of someone who will be in deep shit if putin falls tbh
@XKCD :D
@MiG I suspect he won't last 5 minutes
His troops are also reliable, apparently on account of not doing any actual fighting, and more importantly less dying
MiG
MiG
Little bit longer than that, I'm sure he can hold an AK47... but rule Chechnya... no
@JourneymanGeek :D
@bwDraco umm... can you do both? I thought the mechanism was either static or DHCP, and an 169 fallback address should DHCP not be available?
Static at the client, DHCP reservation at the router.
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Ah, that way
Dunno, I prefer DHCP reservations for everything
The router isn't actually using DHCP to assign an IP—unless the client fails to use the static IP.
MiG
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12:15
only one place to manage
Static in a range you're not giving out?
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rather than having to log onto everything and having to change things if you need to
It's static outside the DHCP scope.
I reserve 1-50 for 'stuff' so it won't be given out for anything else, and static IPs are good for things you log into for IP
My network does have DHCP reservations that are outside of the normal DHCP scope, too.
20-99 for dynamic, 100 and above for most static devices. 1-19 is reserved for network infrastructure devices.
(the C405 gets 103)
When a device needs a fixed IP address, I normally assign it at the device if possible and use a DHCP reservation if I can't. Not normally both at the same time.
13:03
I just always use DHCP
it very very very rarely fails
and sometimes devices need to go onto different networks, and a static IP configured on them can be a pita.
The only time I don't, is when configuring a device that's then used to configure the DHCP server
i.e. it needs to work, when the DHCP server isn't.
FWIW printers are basically fixed devices. They're always going to be in the same place on the same network. A static IP address makes it a lot easier to access the web console.
13:51
lol exceeeeeeept when they're not
Because your printer used to be at a different site which is now closed down, so it was moved here, but no one knows the IP it was on, because 'other site' and for some reason you can't log on to it locally or it needs to be configured via the network
and oh god that requires a factory reset, which can only be done by a tech and wtf.
14:12
lol
@djsmiley2kStaysInside Breeeeattthhheeeee :D
14:25
PTSD from printer support :D
 
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16:46
@djsmiley2kStaysInside lololol
It's grown into a bit of a passion for me.
 
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21:03
Printer support is best done from the third floor or higher
21:59
lol
Not sure I understand the joke, though...
I suspect it's due to the access to windows.
something something like defenestration?
22:29
@djsmiley2kStaysInside... got a major glibc update (2.33 to 2.34). Any special procedures?
Oh, and love how zsh command completion can do crazy stuff like enumerate printers installed in CUPS:
brian ~ % lp -d <Tab>
hp-ojp8630 -- HP Officejet Pro 8630
vlc405     -- Xerox VersaLink C405/DN
Or list packages in Portage:
root ~ # emerge sys-devel/<Tab>
autoconf              bison                 elftoolchain          lld                   patch
autoconf-archive      bmake                 flex                  llvm                  pmake
autoconf-wrapper      boost-m4              gcc                   llvm-common           qconf
autogen               clang                 gcc-apple             llvmgold              remake
automake              clang-common          gcc-config            llvm-roc              rust-std
Well, I probably need to learn shell scripting with Bash and zsh at some point.
23:15
<3 Portage
I love how the raw text versions of IETF RFCs contain ASCII control characters that can be piped directly to port 9100 to a printer and get printed exactly as intended, albeit with appropriate configuration.
(have to use the web console to set PCL print settings: duplex long edge, add carriage return to linefeed and form feed)
curl https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc1178.txt | nc 192.168.1.103 9100
(192.168.1.103 is the IP address of the printer)
(RFC 1178 contains guidelines for naming computers)
Is that the RFC that suggests setting your domain name to the names of famous serial killer?
That said... higher-end Xerox machines can directly print PDF files, so I could just as easily do curl https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/pdfrfc/rfc1178.txt.pdf | nc 192.168.1.103 9100 and expect it to print correctly.
You could also use gs to convert PDFs to correctly-formatted text files.
...and that actually worked!
That said, direct PDF printing is something that's commonly supported on laser printers that support PostScript. IIRC this includes many Canon and HP machines.
Anyhoo, I'm done futzing around with piping raw document data from the internet directly to my printer. I've used enough toner for the day.
(I did try to reuse scrap paper that would otherwise be discarded)
@forest: you might want to read the last few days' worth of messages for context regarding printing.
23:38
ah
Long story short: I manage Xerox machines as one of my job roles at work. The assignment grew on me, and to take the experience home, I ended up throwing a thousand dollars on the behemoth that is the Xerox VersaLink C405.
wow
It's amazing what these high-end printers can do.
Do they just print really fast?
36/24 ppm simplex/duplex on Letter paper, black and color.
Obviously, there are even faster machines, but those... don't really make sense here.
The B400, B405, C400, and C405 serve as the entry point into Xerox's full-featured ConnectKey lineup.
23:42
Why do you need something that fast at home?
Well, like I said, the job assignment grew on me.
I get why people hate printers. Yet I actually like working with them.
The fascination actually goes back to my college days, when I had to get a relatively beefy printer to handle large slide decks from my professors.
My previous machine is an HP Officejet Pro 8630. It's six years old and has printed almost 10,000 impressions.
I tend to learn best when I have dead-tree course materials in front of me.
And one of my professors required me to print a hard-copy of every source used in a term paper. The paper ended up approaching 20 pages when 8 was called for.
I ended up printing some 300 pages of content by the time I turned in the paper.
(I had a Brother laser printer in addition to an inkjet machine at the time)
Back then, I didn't understand how laser/LED printers worked. Today? I could recite the whole xerographic printing process.
Is it true that some inkjet printers automatically brick themselves after a finite number of pages printed for planned obsolescence?
@forest Well, this is caused by a non-removable waste ink container filling up. Nowadays, there are quite a few higher-end inkjet printers with replaceable waste cartridges to avoid this very issue.
oh interesting
Is the same true with laserjet?
This has gotten especially important with the rise of OEM CISS (supertank) printers.
23:56
(I actually meant laserjet but I got them mixed up)
This is rare with laser printers. Most machines have either a replaceable waste cartridge (as in the case with my C405) or waste containers built into print cartridges.
So if it ever happens to a laserjet, it's straight up planned obsolescence?
Eh, you might have to call for service, but this is extremely unusual. Some lower-end Kyocera ECOSYS machines (which use drums, developers, &c. that are designed to last the life of the printer) have waste containers built into the drums.
That said, even the low end ECOSYS machines are good for at least 100,000 pages.

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