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12:00
ooh... what's that useful for? ;p
@JourneymanGeek you might see apps for Stack Exchange, now with added support to write answers from the app
and other stuff
@JourneymanGeek I guess it means someone could write an android app for SE sites
For example, comments (the first and only type available for writing in API version 2.1) have the following throttle behavior:

Users must have comment everywhere.
Users must have at least 50 reputation.
Users start off with 3 writes a day.
Each additional 25 reputation grants an additional write.
Comment writes can only occur once every 5 seconds.
yeesh
so that means ~ 1030 writes/day for me
@Sathya Just enough?
12:07
@OliverSalzburg Yes. Tried it on iOS?
@Boris_yo I've only seen the video to be honest. I know noone who would buy that :D
@Paul should be more than sufficient if I do an app just for me. If I release it to public, it's going to get hit too fast, I reckon
This is probably best model of ASUS Tablet:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3415656&CatId=6957
Question for SU guys:
@Sathya Yeah but if you released it, surely it would use the logged in users rep to calculate the throttle, not yours.
I have 3 laptops. Should I buy ASUS Tablet or invest in 128GB SSD (so far on common HDD)?
12:10
@Paul I would imagine there's an API limit too..
@Boris_yo: depends on your needs
Does any of your laptops support sata 3?
Do you need the extra speed?
@Boris_yo, I have a Tranformer Prime, and it replaces my laptop in a lot of cases
what do you actually do ? Is it mostly browsing and shit or.. ? ;p
@JourneymanGeek SATA is forward and backward compatible interface so even old laps support newer SATAs.
@Boris_yo a 120GB Intel 330D is about a quarter the price of a Transformer + dock - so it isn't a comparison really. Get both.
12:14
@JourneymanGeek Yes and I suppose I better should have bought SSD than additional 4Gbs of RAM ...
@JourneymanGeek Everything except games and movies.
@Paul How about 128GB Crucial M4 - the balanced reliable SSD?
@Boris_yo: true, but you wouldn't be able to take full advantage of the SSD
This puppy was parked next to my staying place in Tallinn:
thing is, its always nice to make a full cost/benefit analysis ;)
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A: How to create subdomains on a name-based virtualhost?

Oliver SalzburgTo be able to create subdomains, you'll have to make sure of several things: DNS So other's can reach test.my.address.com, they first have to be able to resolve that name to the IP address of your virtual machine. How can that be done? What your friend most likely already did, was to create an...

Effort well spent :P
@Boris_yo - sorry, I don't know about the M4s.
12:15
hasn't started looking at SSDs for his new build yet. or video card ><
@Mokubai Are you using <kbd> markup to highlight sections of text? :D
@JourneymanGeek What is your point?
I assume it is Mustang and not Dodge Viper?
@Boris_yo: get whichever feels like it would work better for you? ;p
@JourneymanGeek 3 laptops and tablet seems fat...
12:18
@Boris_yo WHat car is that ?
ya, mustang
MustTank
looked like a dodge
@Boris_yo: I'll end up with 2 desktops and 2 laptops not counting the shared system, at the end of your month, the point is? ;p
@HackToHell: naw, vipers are sleeker
thats classic american muscle car. ;p
definately a mustang
What car is that?!
12:19
Remember mustang from NFS Most Wanted
I do not like muscle cars ;p
@JourneymanGeek I don't see muscles on it...
Ell
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backup drive died :'( lost family photos :'(
lol KGB
Ell
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12:20
hi guys
КГБ - be affraid!
KGB
@Ell hi
@Ell No cloud backup?
@Ell Always, always upload photos to picasa
12:21
I love muscle cars cause their the epitomy of singlemindedness
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No cloud backup :S
@JourneymanGeek Interstate 76 had such cars.
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I don't think the drive is entirely dead - its an external drive and is being recognised by lsusb
No Lambo's ?
12:21
@Ell That shows you have poor upload?
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Well we do have poor upload, but also we just didnt think of that :S
@Ell You could travel to Korea and upload there. They have highest uploads on average worldwide.
@Ell: wait
got a linux box?
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yes :)
I'm on it now, and it's plugged in
Plug it in, see if it sees it
ow
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12:23
It doesn't automount, and I can't see it in the disk utility
is it ntfs?
Ell
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but lsusb lists it
Yeah
can you manually force mount it?
Ell
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when it's plugged into a windows box there is a noise but doesn't mount it
errm, haven't tried
12:24
well ? ;p
Ell
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don't know what it would be, like sda1 or whatever, how can I find that out?
noise means bad stuff
sadly enough? guess.
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oops I don't mean noise
I mean like windows makes a "you plugged something in" sound
i tend to unplug the drive , list what's in /dev/ and then plug it in and do it again
then see what got added
Ell
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12:25
right kk
(lucky day, you got a computer forensics undergrad on channel ;p)
oh, got a possibly horrible question for SU ;p
I need to look up some stuff first though
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I did it, unplugged, did it again, then `diff`'ed it and got:
76,77d75
< sdb
< sdb1
80d77
< sg2
brb >.<
hmm
its probably SDB1
Ell
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12:29
right, so that's sudo mount /dev/sdb1 then yeah?
I don't want to risk losing any data :L if it's not already lost that is
@OliverSalzburg I thought it was a cute way of marking up the notes
@Mokubai Ah, just in time. :D
Yeah, I like the idea as well. I was just wondering if that leads to abuse of the markup.
Why, were you goint to edit them out?
@Mokubai Yeah, but I won't now.
I wouldn't do it often, just that the page it came from had too many layers of information and the notes needed to stand out a bit
12:33
@Mokubai I'm just always scared that people take things as an example ;)
If you think it needs removing then feel free, I just thought it made it clearer.
And soon it will be the generic highlight markup and be of no use for keyboard any more :D I'm most likely overreacting... ;)
I doubt there are that many people who're gonna go that far into that answer to notice them tbh... it's a horrifying wall of text
Heheh. Good point
To be honest though, there are times when that kind of note-box might be a nice "standard" feature of the markup
Ell
Ell
12:36
Will an external drive (usb) always have a sata or ide interface within it? Is it worth opening up the enclosure and plugging it in directly?
If you feel strongly about it though feel free to edit them out, I used them mainly for convenience and prettiness
I'm not so self absorbed that I'm going to constantly argue that they have to be used there and roll-back any edits
@Ell: depends
3.5 inch, yes. 2.5 inch, sometimes not
@Ell Most older enclosures with <200GB drives would have used IDE, newer enclosures are more likely to use SATA in my experience
@Ell: its usually the first thing i try, even if it isn't best practice
WD passports don't have an obviously accessable sata interface
12:40
Though a guy I work with swears he had a harddrive that had a native USB interface
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Its a 1tb drive I think
@Ell: I have both 3.5 inch and 2.5 inch 1tb externals around ;p
@JourneymanGeek :O
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@Mokubai I have one! :P
Well, the only port on the board is USB
:\
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It looks bigger than 3.5 inches :L
why would they make a usb native only?
Bob
Bob
12:42
Cheaper?
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Isn't usb significantly slower than sata or ide?
simpler circuit board, cheaper
internally there's still sata, just everything on a board
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It's a Passport, too...
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oh
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12:43
what does it mean when sudo mount is taking a long time?
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@JourneymanGeek I suppose it also takes less space than a SATA port connected to a SATA-to-USB adapter :P
yup
@Ell: hmm, that would be odd
kill and -v it?
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...when my Passport died, there was absolutely no way to recover anything :(
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@JourneymanGeek -v it?
@Ell a single PCB for interfacing will be cheaper and easier to fit into an enclosure than a normal drive + an interface PCB, less annoying cables and connectors to deal with
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12:44
as in mount -v?
@Ell: yes, so it'll be verbose
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right kk
@Bob: this is why i have at least 2 backups of everything that matters to me ;)
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@JourneymanGeek That was my backup drive
@Bob: I have back up backup drives
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12:46
lol
and a back up back up backup drive
I'm a LITTLE paranoid.
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oops silly me I didn't specify a filesystem
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@JourneymanGeek Off-site backups? 'Cloud' backups?
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hmm sda2 is either not a valid ntfs thing, i might have the drive number wrong
I'll do the ls,ls,diff thing
hmm, if its an external drive, its slightly less likely to have a second partition
@Bob: cloud, soon
I am my offsite backup ;p
I carry my backup-backup drive in my backpack ;p
Bob
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12:50
I'm actually a little worried right now
will be adding larger drives to the home network once prices get sane, and more pressing needs are met
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my not backed up, completely full external 1.5TB drive has been popping a lot of NTFS errors in the event log recently :P
Bob
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Luckily, it's all useless stuff
...don't ask where I got 1.5TB of junk
Bob
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12:51
I still haven't figured it out
my backup drive has broken down before
that's why i ended up going for a 3 drive system ;p
It needs to be organised at some point tho
too much transient crap
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Yes, if they ever drop low enough I'll back up that drive :P
how do i know if port 22 is blocked or not?
shut up clippy
lol
@jokerdino: nmap?
or er
wait
Bob
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gah
12:53
that gibson thing
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I can't believe how hard it is to find a 1.5TB external drive under $100 (locally)
Shield's up
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bad news :s now there aren't any differences between ls before its plugged in and after :s
Bob
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there used to be 2TB cheaper than the current 1-1.5TB
12:53
lol
how is it done?! i am going crazy here
ya
@jokerdino: see link
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...and now lsusb isn't finding it either
oh that's for me?
i miss being able to get a drive for 50 quid
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12:54
great :D
@Bob: ya, floods
@jokerdino: yes
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floods screwed everything up
@Ell: damn
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@JourneymanGeek yep. I might just get an internal drive...
I need more space now :P
ya, lucky i accidentally stocked up on drives before this shit happened
12:55
let me run through the link
and by stocked up, i mean i have ONE spare drive which i can use on my new build till i get an SSD
Bob
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@JourneymanGeek for whatever reason, my public ip is static
not explicitly defined by the ISP, but it hasn't changed in 7+ years (including a move)
Ell
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I just use dyndns
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actually, it changed a couple of years ago. changed back two months later
weird :\
12:57
@JourneymanGeek i get a stealth status for port 22
mine is staticish
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right, disk is now not being showed in lsusb, and there is no difference between ls /dev when i plug in, or when out. :( What to do next?
@jokerdino: i need to look up his docs
ok i be waiting ;p
@Ell: does the hard drive have a seperate power supply?
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12:58
@JourneymanGeek yea
@JourneymanGeek should I unplug/plug in power?
Right its recognised it now
@jou grc.com/su/portstatusinfo.htm it says something about stealth status
but i don't understand if it is open or not
So what font do you guys use of you want to print stuff
arial, times new roman, calibri
tell me one !!
arial
13:12
I am assuming that's the most appealing, when printed.
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@journeyman sudo mount -v -t ntfs /dev/sdb /media/matxtorhd appears to be doing nothing now
oh you using mint
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me?
yeah. i just remembered you do
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13:13
well I have 2 machines
im on ubuntu now
alrightie
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and my other machine is win7/mint dualboot
Aha - "Error reading bootsector: Illegal seek
Failed to sync device /dev/sg2: Invalid argument
Failed to mount '/dev/sg2': Illegal seek"
i'll try to mount sdb now though
see if I get anything
How did i miss this
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Q: Journeyman Geek's Monthly Bounty Hunt: July/August

Journeyman GeekI'm ploughing back some of my rep into the community, and hopefully getting some good/better answers up for questions. I really wouldn't be able to chase down all the worthy candidates for such a thing, so I'd like people to suggest questions that might do with a bounty. Post the questions you t...

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13:29
okay mount isn't finishing now :/ looks like its the error reading bootsector: illegal seek thing or something
Dumb word question, I want the right pages to be full of text and left pages to be full of pics, must I add this in Word or is it based on how I print ?
@HackToHell you must lay it out so
@Sathya So one page is full of text, then full of pics and so on ??
And i have to ask the printer guy to print correctly
??
you format it properly in word and pdf it
then print it out
I still do not get it :/
@jokerdino one page is full of text, then full of pics, then text and so on is correct ?
13:38
@HackToHell yes
you alternate it
Also, is there any option you have to enable in word so that it is automatically done or the guy has to manually reverse the printed page ?
o.O
reverse the page? what is that?
if you want it to be printed the way you want, you have to do it manually
if you're asking for duplex printing where it prints on both sides of the page, then it's a printer driver feature
hmm, since the pic has to printed in the back of the first page, the sheet side has to be reversed..
like I said, it's a printer feature
13:41
ah, yeah. it's the printer
@Sathya I get it thanks
if it can't do double side, the guy has to flip the pages
tell your printer guy to do duplex prints
i just hope you guys have something better than dot matrix printers.
ok
@jokerdino :P :P
13:43
good luck man!
or you can email to sathya and he will mail you the printed copies ;p
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I haven't seen a printer driver in the last 6 years or so that doesn't have a duplex mode...
Of course, the majority of them just print alternating pages and ask you to manually flip them, but the flip instructions are much easier than trying to figure out the direction yourself :P
xP that's new ;p
@Bob That makes my work easier
Evora looks awesome
14:05
@HackToHell lol, we've been discussing this the last few weeks
@JourneymanGeek When I was away ;p
anyway, it'll be a monthly thing
its just the rep from one regular day for me anyway
@nhinkle thanks! been seriously busy (moving from China to the US) - had a lot of time last week but picked up again this weekend
there is nothing more boring than having to pack your entire place
sigh, gravatar blocked again tonight so the chat room looks like this:
one thing I won't be missing from China ;)
invisible people
@Gareth Why does gravatar get blocked 0_o
14:15
I guess if there's any XXX avatars on there? or possibly Tibetan flags and the like ;) the reasons for sites being blocked aren't always fully known
IMDb is blocked which is ridiculous when I'm sat at work in my office at Amazon... can't even get on our own site (IMDb is part of Amazon)
imgur is on and off
@Gareth wow didn't know that.
well anyway, my school's firewall is probably beaten only by China's ;p
hehe
14:34
Heh the Google Account Activity is really neat :D
People need to stop sending so much mail...
o.O
where do you get that?
aww never mind
lol
@jokerdino: sorry for the delay, but stealth = firewalled out
meaning i shouldn't be able to use port 22?
i can't ssh out??!
14:49
hmm, you should be able to ssh out in theory...
i guess i could?
well, depends i guess, that checks open ports
its timing out?
i can through browser based extensions but not through terminals
actually i can now o.O
what the hell is going on
14:50
magic
;)
man, this is weird stuff
lol
when you talk about problems sometimes they fix themselves ;)
yeah
i dont know what happened but i am guessing they are using this a trap o.O
Seems like a nice group of guys.
@jokerdino Found it?
yes
just got my report
12 out 1527 in
15:02
@jokerdino :D
i don't apparently send that many emails.
Luckily I realized that one of the communities I take part in also serves some of their mailing lists through a news server
That helped
Oh wow. I like this new behavior in Firefox. When restarting, it doesn't instantly load tab contents, only when I click them.
What an amazing achievement :P
@OliverSalzburg It's an old feature ;p Where have you been ??
@OliverSalzburg good that you realized it now ;p
@HackToHell Oh. I hadn't noticed. I only use it rarely
But it didn't seem to do it when I started it 5 minutes ago
Only after I upgraded to the latest version 4 minutes ago
15:05
it probably wasn't enabled by default
Is updating his Pale Moon to the latest version
I'd really love to sneak a peek into this guys computer...
I assume the last 3 questions refer to the same system
15:27
yay, my S2 doesn't boot :\
@Sathya :(
It needs power to function ;)
heh.
tried to do a nandroid backup, phone rebooted & boom.
will see later. off for dinner
@OliverSalzburg I'd assume his question regarding "prorat" is the reason he's having so much trouble now, sounds like he got himself trojaned
And if that's the case the only way I'd be booting his computer would be with a Windows (or Linux) install dvd
15:34
Could someone knowledgable about anti-malware please review this answer of mine?
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A: What is the risk of not running an anti virus on a Mac?

Daniel BeckAny system can be the victim of malware. For example, the technological difference between e.g. your friendly desktop search indexer and a malware syphoning of your private data is negligible. That said, there has been no (well-known) malware so far for OS X that: Did not require active user i...

There was a trojan masquerading as an update to Flash a coule of months back iirc
and the flashback botnet
@DanielBeck Sounds reasonable, though to be honest most malware these days exploit the person rather than the computer, even on Windows. I wouldn't go so far as saying Macs never get the plug in a memory stick and you're infected type viruses, but they do seem a lot less common
@Mokubai Good point
@Mokubai Masquerading being the relevant term.
@jokerdino Third party Java
@Mokubai Thanks.
15:39
@DanielBeck I.. just read your answer. Ignore me.
@jokerdino No, you're right of course, but didn't I mention Flashback as well?
well, i just read the answer after posting the message
@jokerdino Ah OK. Alright.
Social attacks do seem to be the most prominent, which is at least one good reason to have antivirus, even on a Mac. I'd rather have it protect me from the most outrageous stupids on my part than me happily mistakenly install a trojan. Not that I would...
@DanielBeck Ah, that was the one you mentioned. wasn't sure, just Googled and found it.
@Mokubai You're protected from most social attacks out of the box as of Wednesday (OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion). Of course, it annoys the hell out of power users...
15:42
@DanielBeck what do you mean?
That Gatekeeper sounds like a nice idea to protect the "casual" users but I can see it being rather infuriating for some others
@soandos Gatekeeper only allows downloaded software to be run when digitally signed by a developer registered (i.e. using dollars) with Apple, and whose signature hasn't been revoked.
@DanielBeck ouch
To be honest I wouldn't mind seeing similar on Windows, but I suspect Microsoft will head that way
@Mokubai win RT
15:44
Windows is in sore need of a certified "safe" app store
@Mokubai Gatekeeper was running for almost two hours on my system before I deactivated it.
@DanielBeck It managed nearly 2 hours?
Wow
Although... it's easy to circumvent it as a user...
I'd like it on Windows for, as you say, the gullible people.
@Mokubai Yeah, needed to click all the shiny new buttons and such first, before downloading something even more shiny and failing to start it.
15:48
Regarding your comment in your answer about the antimalware detecting behaviour of a program I have actually seen this repeatedly happening on a particular machine. I had one keep detecting and blocking a game updater, problem was that it was all legit and it was regularly updating, like 2-3 times a month...
Each time "yes, it's fine... honest... no, don't delete it... no, don't quarantine it either... yes I do still want to run it..."
@Mokubai I have seen this problem with particularly... innovative software copy protection.
@DanielBeck, you say it so nicely
Yeah, the anti-piracy programmers are almost as bad as malware writers
Except they lack the malware writers professionalism
And intellect
Does anyone know whether I can connect a RAID1 disk from a broken RAID controller directly into SATA and access the data on it?
15:56
@dnbrv Usually you can. I've done it before with IDE disks and I'd be surprised if SATA were any different with RAID 1
RAID 1 should basically just present 1 disk to the host to treat as a normal har drive and then just copy the written data to both disks
So you end up with two normal disks in the event of the controller dying
@Mokubai It's an external RAID box. The controller suddenly started thinking it's RAID0 with an unformatted partition. I didn't let it format so I'm hoping the data is safe on at least one of the disks.

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