Root Access

Simon Sheehan

00:01

@slhck you around?

slhck

@SimonSheehan Yup!

Simon Sheehan

@slhck have you ever added RAM to your Macbook or any macintosh computer? :P

slhck

@SimonSheehan Yep, I upgraded my girlfriend's plastic white MacBook

Simon Sheehan

@slhck oh nice. What brand of RAM did you get? Is basically any RAM compatible? I know there's a lot of "WORKS WITH MAC!" advertised RAM, at higher prices

slhck

@SimonSheehan In theory, any is compatible. I went with Kingston ValueRAM IIRC and haven't had any issues.

I don't believe you need to get an extra certified uber-RAM. If the specs are the same, it'll work.

Simon Sheehan

00:03

@slhck oh nice. That's quite good. Any idea if iMac's use laptop or desktop RAM?

answered my own question: looks like laptop stuff :p

slhck

I believe laptop RAM, yeah

DDR3 SO-DIMMs, the usual stuff

Simon Sheehan

Ah okay, so still very good stuff

slhck

IMac (Intel-based)

The iMac is a series of Macintosh desktop computers offered by Apple Inc. The current Apple iMac features either an Intel Core i5, or Intel Core i7 processor, Radeon HD 6750M graphics or a Radeon HD 6770M with options to upgrade to the HD 6970M (27" model only), and a choice of glossy 21.5" or 27" LCD screens. While previous iMac models had a white polycarbonate enclosure as the iMac G5, the iMac had an enclosure shaped like Apple's Cinema Displays and styling reminiscent of the iPhone, made using the same unibody assembly as the MacBook Pro. Previous aluminum iMac models had a black p...

Simon Sheehan

I'm sort of torn between wanting to build my own PC, or just get an iMac and upgrade RAM myself... it's sort of a tricky situation :P.

slhck

@SimonSheehan Well, if you build your own PC you won't get the joy of using OS X

Simon Sheehan

00:05

@slhck Exactly haha, I do like OS X a lot... and I feel it would be a quite adequate video editing machine too.

slhck

@SimonSheehan … given enough RAM that is :P

Speedy hard drive wouldn't hurt either.

Simon Sheehan

@slhck Well RAM is fairly cheap nowadays - 16GB won't take much cash.

slhck

Indeed.

Simon Sheehan

which is the most any iMac will take

slhck

Certainly good enough :P

Simon Sheehan

00:07

I've seen a lot of high end videos done on it too.

I mean, I can do a LOT with my current 8GB even. So 16GB would be good.

Plus it's got a lot of software going for it... like Final Cut.

oh wow, RAM install is actually ridiculously easy

slhck

@SimonSheehan It is.. I don't like opening up computers, but that was super easy

Simon Sheehan

@slhck yeah I googled it. Nice that Apple has a good support page for it, quite detailed (which sort of surprised me, i find them vague sometimes haha)

slhck

@SimonSheehan Yeah.. like.. "GTFO you can't service this part!"

Simon Sheehan

@slhck haha. "YOU DONT NEED TO KNOW, LEAVE!"

@slhck thanks for the info, I think I'm leaning a bit haha.

slhck

Heh. No prob.

Simon Sheehan

00:16

Might be going to the dark side ;)

slhck

Well I know that I'm finally going home from work

Simon Sheehan

@slhck haha, awesome :) enjoy

Journeyman Geek

00:37

superuser.com/questions/408487/… "something smells like its burning" ...

The magic smoke has escaped !

soandos

00:52

anyone here take econ ever?

Journeyman Geek

twice

;p

still makes no sense to me

soandos

@JourneymanGeek, its frustrating

Finally got diversification down though (helping out a friend)

Tom Wijsman

01:52

Oh, by the way, talking about SE clones. Just stumbled upon another one... ask.fedoraproject.org/questions

Although they at least tried to stand apart, but costly though... askbot.com

Journeyman Geek

02:04

hm

blah

soandos

How many flags from 10k+ users do there have to be before it is acted on?

Journeyman Geek

well, depends on how soon a mod sees it ;p

soandos

So what is the point of all the 10k users flagging things in the queue?

Journeyman Geek

>_>

Depends on the flag type i guess

soandos

02:19

Seems kinda useless to me

Journeyman Geek

thinks flags have never been automated, but there's obviously some value to them

I've never actually thought about that ;p - I figure invalid flags help mods sort through it faster, and so on

(and, it dosen't make me feel almost guilty like trawling the late answers tab for flaggable things....)

soandos

@JourneymanGeek, I don't know if people do this, but if you have 10k, I am sure you can get a huge number of flags just by watching the queue and copying everyone else

Journeyman Geek

Not really

soandos

why not?

Journeyman Geek

There's actually not that many, least from my estimation

My biggest source of flags is the late answers tab

soandos

02:32

lets say 10 a day?

Journeyman Geek

lol

I wish

soandos

Right now there is 9 no?

over the course of the day, 10 does not seem unreasonable

Journeyman Geek

5 is closer to average

most of those are invalid IMO

soandos

you mean at one time, or total?

(I am talking total)

Journeyman Geek

and you don't get helpful flags for that ;p

per day

soandos

02:33

even so, 100 * 5 per day = 500

thats a lot

Journeyman Geek

I have 455 over the 2 years 10 months. Practically didn't start actively flagging till march 2011 tho

soandos

618 in basically a year (though about 200 were in a week)

Journeyman Geek

Its not THAT easy to get the Marshall badge. Older system was trickier so i flagged someone less then, but still

slhck

@soandos Why not? If I see the post on the site, I might not even know it's already flagged.

soandos

@slhck, I mean casting flags on flags, not flagging in general by 10k+ users

slhck

02:37

@soandos Hmm. Yeah.. I don't believe many do that though.

soandos

I think there are some in the queue now that are at 7 not an answer flags

or so

Journeyman Geek

lol, i suspect at least half of them are me.

and a spam flag

slhck

Man, I wish the "first answers" queue would get as much love as the "low quality"

Journeyman Geek

lol

soandos

@slhck, its too hard to scroll down ;)

Journeyman Geek

02:48

those arn't as bad as late answers ;p

slhck

Well, they include late answers anyway.

Journeyman Geek

late answers just seem a 'better' source of horrible answers for me ;p

slhck

Sure, the ratio is higher.

soandos

@JourneymanGeek, do you flag when reviewing?

Journeyman Geek

Sort of. Most of my flags are due to me actually looking for flaggable stuff though

slhck

02:54

Hah. Awesome. Success. My map tiling Google Earth overlay script worked.

Journeyman Geek

hm, this is a pain in the rear. superuser.com/tools?s=1 I don't see a need to take action on a migrated post, but it INSISTS i flag it

slhck

if anyone has Google Earth, check this out: samos.mminf.univie.ac.at/maps/ts_google/g4390.ct002233/doc.kml

soandos

@slhck, very cool

what is the source map?

slhck

@soandos Some historical map from the U.S. Library of Congress. I can mark certain regions on it, which correspond to current cities, and then translate the coordinates to project it onto Google Maps

soandos

@slhck, very nice

slhck

03:08

Heh, nicely disguised spam… superuser.com/questions/450749/…

slhck

03:20

No mod around, huh? :P

Hmm.. I wonder who the user "peth" is superuser.com/a/284075/48078

Anyone wanna enlighten me?

soandos

@slhck, my hunch is that the name has changed

slhck

@soandos But peth doesn't link anywhere… and if the OP had deleted it it would show user123091824..

soandos

@slhck, no idea then

slhck

@soandos My only explanation would be that peth was a mod… :P

soandos

@slhck, at one point

Sathya

05:10

@slhck username was changed from peth to userxxxx ( cc @soandos )

William Hilsum

05:41

@slhck are you around!?

KronoS

06:33

he he:

using night time viewing in Chrome...

Ha HA! It inverted it back when I uploaded it.... lol. It must be late at night... I should actually sleep for once. I'm getting WAY to easily entertained.

KronoS

06:48

Bob

@KronoS There's always this classic

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KronoS

happyplace.com/3907/…

@Bob this has been entertaining me for a little while now

Bob

@KronoS o.O

Sathya

in Super User Election: Town Hall Chat, 10 hours ago, by KronoS

@Sathya I have to qualms at the moment with SE or SU

Bob

lol

Sathya

07:03

I hope you meant I have no qualms?

KronoS

@Sathya oh whoops!

Sathya

I see flags from @gareth. tears of joy

KronoS

@Sathya I've fixed it, can you removed my typo'd one?

@Sathya has he finished his quest for image domination?

Sathya

@KronoS done

KronoS

thanks

Bob

07:10

huh

@Sathya

Sathya

@Bob ?

Bob

This answer, which you edited

is exactly the same as this answer

which just repeats part of this answer itself...

Chain of duplicate answers! :P

KronoS

@Bob sounds like spam (without looking)

Bob

@KronoS They're all valid, in that they apply to the question and work (all on the same question).

They just repeat the same solution :P

Probably not maliciously. We need big bold letters somewhere saying this is not a forum...

With a link for further explanation*

Sathya

@soandos posts with high flag counts bubble up the queue.

Santosh

08:17

How do I make my .vimrc file load from ~/.vim/ directory, not from ~/.vimrc?

@jokerdino it won't load from there, I'll have to tell vim to load it from ~/.vim/ directory, and I don't know how to do that.

jokerdino

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Q: Change default location of vimrc

In Vim, is it possible to change the default location of the user vimrc file, i.e., from $HOME/.vimrc to some other location ?

Journeyman Geek

08:43

ugh

0

Q: How to make differential bakcup in linux?

I have to write a script to take differential backup (of a directory). Differential backup:: A differential backup backs up only the files that changed since the last full back. For example, suppose you do a full backup on Sunday. On Monday you back up only the files that changed since Sunday, ...

linux

too minor to fix, but thats oh so an annoying spelling error.

Oliver Salzburg

09:27

plus.google.com/106340271308638051514/posts/c5EJFUp6bnx

Exactly what I needed this morning :P

jokerdino

haha

Oliver Salzburg

I only shot like 5 minutes of video last night

Our cats were hunting a giant grasshopper

I guess it tried to upload it through the mobile network

Petah

10:40

hi

i installed debian, but didn't enter a root password, or create a non root user

how do i log in?

Oliver Salzburg

@Petah I didn't even know that's possible

jokerdino

Myself included

Petah

i just hit enter the whole way through

when it asked me to create a secondary user, i skipped to the setup time step

Journeyman Geek

lol

boot into single user mode?

Petah

recovery mode?

Journeyman Geek

10:46

probably what they call it

debuntu.org/recover-root-password-single-user-mode-and-grub for example

Petah

cool

thanks, sorted it :D

Journeyman Geek

if its a 32 bit system, and you're lazy, there's also a livecd that would bypass it called konboot piotrbania.com/all/kon-boot/index2.html

Petah

root/root now

Journeyman Geek

that was fast

Petah

restart, recovery mode, passwd, restart, pretty easy to do, hard to google

Journeyman Geek

10:49

lol. unless you knew what to look for ;p

I'm a bit too amused by this i.imgur.com/DepGM.png

lots of sixen!

Bob

11:16

@JourneymanGeek lol

That's a scary thing

Journeyman Geek

12:09

quite

I've known about it for a while now, and there's a SU blog post on it as well

thing is, there's less.. dodgy ways to do the same thing

Bob

12:38

@JourneymanGeek Guess where I heard about it? :P

jokerdino

what are we talking about?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek True. The main reason this is so dodgy is it leaves little to no traces (as far as I know)

@jokerdino Kon-Boot

jokerdino

hmm

HaydnWVN

13:13

free online virus/spyware/malware scanner i can pass an attached file through to doublecheck? My Kaspersky says it's clean but i'm very suspicious of were it came from...

Bob

@HaydnWVN ~~http://virustotal.org~~ virustotal.com

That's the one I've used most often, and the one Symantec requires a report from for false positive submissions

HaydnWVN

@Bob thanks

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: precisely. I'd rather change the password the usual way, if i was working for a client

seems less, scary

HaydnWVN

@Bob sure about that site...? It looks like a dodgy portal, orange search related spam fest?

Bob

@HaydnWVN Sorry, virustotal.com

I need sleep...

Journeyman Geek

13:29

virustotal is trusty

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Not when you accidentally put .org after it!

:p

Journeyman Geek

lol

hmm, I just noticed i'm saving close votes to get questions into the close votes pile

HaydnWVN

@Bob Thanks again, sleep is for the weak! ;)

Bob

Gah

@HaydnWVN I'm not going to get any tonight :P

The night before a freaking project deadline I run into a massive bug

I still have no idea how this happened/why this is happening xD

Paul

Hah a @Sathya answer just came up in review

Bob

13:44

@Paul Low quality?

Paul

Yeah, one liner

Sathya

14:10

@Paul which one?

jokerdino

haha

i can see Sathya's nightmare coming true. :p

Sathya

14:22

@jokerdino considering I have put in over 1200 answers...

jokerdino

Uhm.

steps aside

Sathya

@jokerdino most of us came(at least I did) from forum background, having initial LQ answers doesn't bother me. if it's bad leave a comment/flag. I'll either delete it or edit it, if it's worth.

Bob

lol

jokerdino

No. was just joking.

Bob

@jokerdino @Sathya ignores

jokerdino

14:27

i don't have access to the LQ queue ;/

William Hilsum

@Sathya, are you ok? I thought I read something about you in the newspaper this morning...

jokerdino

o.O

Sathya

@WilliamHilsum O_o me and a newspaper?

jokerdino

You talking about the Satyam?

William Hilsum

Sathya

14:31

in case you missed last night's Town Hall Chat, the digests are being published ( thanks @Tim!)

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Q: July 2012 Moderator Election - Town Hall Chat Digest

The following is a "digest" version of the July 2012 Moderator Election Town Hall Chat. The format, as described on Meta Stack Overflow, is one answer to this question for every question asked in the Town Hall, containing all the candidate's answers to that question. To view the digest chronolog...

discussion election town-hall-chat

@WilliamHilsum sad story, but I don't sit for > 2 hour stretch

William Hilsum

Ok... You are only up to 39 hours!?

jokerdino

@WilliamHilsum hilarious

William Hilsum

Sorry, just read that title and thought it sounded funny... as I posted it here, I thought it is bad taste and glad you took it the right way!!!

jokerdino

it is a bit psychosomatic.

(checks dictionary)

bah. wrong word

William Hilsum

lol, thought it was a bit weird!

@Sathya Fair enough! It is those Facebook "in the last 24 hour" posts... They always make me laugh!

Bob

14:34

@WilliamHilsum Fatal blood clot from being seated too long? Well... shit.

Ok, screw long flights :P

William Hilsum

bloody hell... I didn't actually read it

ouch :/

Sathya

in Ask Ubuntu General Room, 5 mins ago, by ObsessiveFOSS

User:Rarkenin/Stackopoly

Private and being used for testing purposes. Do not edit. Monopoly:

slhck

@Sathya Wow, pretty nice formatting..

Bob

It's been a while since I played Monopoly, but aren't properties supposed to be physically grouped by colour/worth?

jokerdino

@Bob it's in a sandbox

still being made

@slhck you skipped a couple of questions?

slhck

14:37

@jokerdino I guess I did, yup. Was a bit busy yesterday during work ;)

jokerdino

I thought I could use your answers next time around =)

Bob

Also, the fact it was posted in the AU chat kinda explains why AU is next to SO :P

William Hilsum

nice

slhck

@jokerdino :P

William Hilsum

but, superuser should be higher imho!

Bob

14:38

@WilliamHilsum They apparently weren't using this list

o.O @jokerdino?

jokerdino

xD

you can just post your thoughts there

Bob

eh

too much trouble :P

jokerdino

:p

Bob

14:52

...Firefox

Tab count: 16

jokerdino

rocks my sox...

Bob

Memory usage: ~1GB

Lag: high

jokerdino

you using v14?

Bob

time for a restart

not yet

it'll install on restart

also, the new v14 theme makes my addon icons look weird :\

Simon Sheehan

the theme changed? :S

doesn't seem like it to me.

jokerdino

14:54

no theme change

it looks plain ubuntu ambiance bland here

Bob

@SimonSheehan Slight difference

Compared to the previous one:

Oliver Salzburg

Does anyone know of a good way to debug SNTP connectivity under Windows?

Bob

Background colour is slightly lighter too

@OliverSalzburg You mean apart from Wireshark? :P

Simon Sheehan

@Bob you have a lot more buttons and addons than me

Bob

@SimonSheehan probably

Oliver Salzburg

15:01

@Bob I need an SNTP client

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

I only really click on two of them

Oliver Salzburg

One that allows me to simply query a server and print the result

Journeyman Geek

I hide most of my buttons

and i use oneliner

Bob

another three are ocassionally used

@JourneymanGeek whatsthat?

@OliverSalzburg Telnet? :P

Any particular reason?

Sathya

15:02

26 questions + 1 final note asked during THC. meta.superuser.com/questions/5227/…

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Telnet=TCP, SNTP=UDP if I'm not mistaken :P

Bob

oh whoops

Simon Sheehan

@jokerdino Well, if you get it from the Ubuntu repos, there might be some sort of theme tossed in there.

Bob

:P

Oliver Salzburg

I have a domain controller that refuses to have its time source changed.

And it's driving me mad right now

Bob

15:03

@SimonSheehan I make up for it by not having the search box, though

@OliverSalzburg Wait what?

Simon Sheehan

@Bob such a handy box for me :p

Bob

Refuses to have its time source changed?

Oliver Salzburg

@Bob Yeah, it uses the local CMOS clock right now

Bob

@SimonSheehan The magnifying glass addon button is for the options of InstantFox

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/prospector-oneLiner

jokerdino

15:04

@SimonSheehan yep

Oliver Salzburg

But I need it to use an external NTP server. Because it's actually a VM guest

Journeyman Geek

I am very very very protective of my vertical space

Bob

Address bar search :D

@JourneymanGeek I need my tabs

But they go above the address bar anyway

and InstantFox does the address bar search for me :P

That's about as much vertical space as I'm going to get

soandos

@Sathya But they all have to be dealt with by mods anyway, so why does the order really matter?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: mine go beside my address bar

Bob

15:08

@JourneymanGeek Too cramped :P

Never really liked the IE9 tabs

Sathya

@soandos ideally, meant to prioritize. More flags, more pressing the issue is and faster it needs to be actioned. Doesn't matter much for Super User, but on Stack Overflow I think it makes a difference

soandos

@Sathya, got it

Journeyman Geek

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek: If you want to tweak out more, there's something odd with the DPI of that address bar.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@TomWijsman: it works perfectly for me

Bob

15:13

@JourneymanGeek Too cramped! :P

I need the text on the tabs, which kinda kills that idea

Journeyman Geek

On a 12.5 inch screen? ;p

oh, this is cause i have too many tabs opened

Bob

Uhm..

jokerdino

data.stackexchange.com/metasuperuser/query/34810/…

Bob

I normally have 30+

Been cutting back recently thanks to the massive memory usage

jokerdino

Bob

15:14

You may as well use full screen mode @JourneymanGeek :P

@jokerdino eww Unity

That was my first reaction

Journeyman Geek

@jokerdino: what does that do, exactly?

jokerdino

@Bob You != me

Tom Wijsman

@JourneymanGeek Also, you can get rid of the ... if you have always a lot of tabs open. What I meant was this, this is from when I ran FF:

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek which one?

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: that saves me almost no space at all ;p

@jokerdino: the data.se link ;p

jokerdino

15:16

@JourneymanGeek meta rep

Journeyman Geek

@TomWijsman: sometimes it makes it easier to tell which tab is open ;p

Bob

@jokerdino Evidently :P

jokerdino

;p

Tom Wijsman

The one that is lighted up. :D

jokerdino

but anyways, i am using unity because i am testing.

i would otherwise use KDE or LXDE

Bob

15:17

I wonder if Unity has gotten any more usable since 11.04

Tom Wijsman

In other news, almost got double the amount of music on my MP3 player by LAME encoding them to VBR. :D

jokerdino

@Bob sort of

Bob

@jokerdino LXDM? Or LXDE?

jokerdino

the latter

Bob

@jokerdino ?

jokerdino

15:20

it has improved.

Bob

lol

so vague

jokerdino

;p

Bob

I actually can't remember what exactly made it so bad

Tom Wijsman

Oh, my room froze... :(

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you have on question titles.

Bob

perhaps my utter inability to find anything in it, but I have a similar problem in any GUI Linux shell

KDE appears to be the exception, its search is almost as easy as Windows 7 :P

HaydnWVN

15:25

Always nice to get some random 'feedback/update' style email from some random forum you joined months ago (and forgot about)... To see it looks very familiar... :D

http://synergy-foss.org/osqa/questions/514/synergy-will-not-start/1122

Tom Wijsman

Double diamonds!

Journeyman Geek

lol. been playing with that actually

Oliver Salzburg

Okay...

I know now why the server refused to accept my time servers

The local administrators closed all outgoing ports, except 80

For security reasons...

Bob

@HaydnWVN That's a surprisingly good clone...

jokerdino

@OliverSalzburg sounds like my firewall

Oliver Salzburg

15:33

Actually 80 is closed as well, you have to use an HTTP proxy. HTTPs doesn't work :D

Bob

@OliverSalzburg Outgoing? (huuuuh?)

Oliver Salzburg

0

A: How can I query an NTP server under Windows?

Bytefusion's ntpquery seems to be incredibly old, but works. Sadly, it requires initial installation, but the application files will work fine when copied to another system.

This application saved me :P

Bob

But isn't a random high numbered port chosen for outgoing requests? :\

Oliver Salzburg

I would have expected w32tm to do that job

@Bob Well, all outgoing connections are blocked. I might as well not set up a default route :P

Tom Wijsman

15:53

@OliverSalzburg Probably some other services like DNS, SSL and so as well?

@OliverSalzburg Ah, missed that sentence, yeah, pretty locked down.

Oliver Salzburg

@TomWijsman It's interesting idea of security.

Tom Wijsman

@Bob Yes, outgoing, did that as well on my Windows Firewall, might do it again here in Gentoo Linux.

By controlling what goes out you essentially disallow any keyloggers / unintended internet reporting / things that you don't want to connect to the internet...

...or control what your entire company can do. :P

Bob

@TomWijsman I'm just wondering, are you stopping traffic leaving your port 80, or traffic destined for a port 80?

Tom Wijsman

@Bob I stopped all outgoing traffic. Opened up the bare minimum to get internet to work, then added applications with strict rules to it.

Allowing only certain application / destined port combinations, that is...

Bob

Ah.

Because, and I'm not anywhere near sure, HTTP traffic destined for 80 could originate from any high numbered port on the source system...

I think.

Oliver Salzburg

16:01

This is all just a tiny mosaic piece in the very interesting security concept they have...

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