Root Access

slhck

15:00

Most of the flags I used to gather were from 10 AM UTC till the afternoon, and now I'm in the US, so everything's cleared already :)

@HackToHell Nice :)

jokerdino

I have 30 flags on SU.

Illegal double flagging on spam answers FTW.

slhck

@jokerdino Flag as spam, flag as NAA? :P

jokerdino

XD

Tom Wijsman

@DanielBeck: Go upvote if you want...

0

A: New Feature: Community Review Tasks - Now in Beta

Current behavior: Reproduction: Run out of delete votes. Try to delete yet another post. Get the above error, trying to delete from the question page itself and note I ran out of votes. Expected bahavior: Replacing "Delete" by "Recommend to Delete" when I ran out of close votes.

Added a 4 mentioning I have to press "Not Sure" due to the bug.

jokerdino

do you guys see my edits or what?

Daniel Beck

15:03

@TomWijsman Done.

Tom Wijsman

@jokerdino: Yeah, saw them now. Typed 11 to approve them... :D

jokerdino

o.O

Tom Wijsman

But well, the delete / close vote limit is a show stopper. Dunno whether I should be continuing to click Not Sure, but on the other hand other people still get to see it though.

HackToHell

Gravatar shows the proper image for all other sizes expect the one used by SU

Oh wait, it has changed after changed the image again !!

yay :)

jokerdino

superuser.com/questions/318507/… what do you usually do with this? edit the answer or what?

Journeyman Geek

15:07

hmm

for link only answers?

jokerdino

yeah

Journeyman Geek

Depends, Its fair game to 'snipe' the answer in most of SE

or you can fix it

Tom Wijsman

Back in the days I left comments to ask to explain their commands. But now I no longer bother with they should know "man" anyway on my mind and just approve...

Oh wait, joker linked to the wrong answer. I leave an auto comment explaining to expand...

Journeyman Geek

Oh, i leave out anything i don't get for other people to approve ;p

Tom Wijsman

-1

A: Ubuntu SSH issue

Ubuntu Worst try centos.!

Can't delete! Yhelp...

Daniel Beck

15:19

@TomWijsman Reminds me of a German idiom about having the choice between plague and cholera.

Journeyman Geek

lol

either of them is fine. PEBKAC

;p

and ugh. I miss having closevotes ;p

HaydnWVN

@Shiki gief!

Simon Sheehan

there goes my last vote for the day

Sathya

jokerdino

sorry for editing then?

Simon Sheehan

15:29

Apparently thats borked haha.

Tom Wijsman

@Sathya: Yeah, it recalculates every 10 minutes or so.

Actually, click it, it's a nasty bug...

Don't mind the placement of the SU links, I'm using a script that places the logo and links in the right side bar, if there's none, this happens. :D

Sathya

eh

superuser.com/election/2#post-448371

Simon Sheehan

"Activity on super user: Medium (but higher than stack exchange)"

jokerdino

??!

Simon Sheehan

That line made little sense to me :P

jokerdino

15:37

I think I have done more than that person? O_o

Simon Sheehan

I wonder if he means stack overflow

jokerdino

30 flags and 30 edits and one meta answer xD

Tom Wijsman

... not even a day of work ... :D

Simon Sheehan

jokerdino

@SimonSheehan hate you

Simon Sheehan

15:38

@jokerdino bahaha. No seriously, that's good work though, keep it up, you seem like a good guy :)

Tom Wijsman

Oh, I know what I should have done about my 4000+ nomination post characters problem... ANIMATED GIF! xD

jokerdino

@SimonSheehan teehehe, i am a good guy. Ask @Sathya

Sathya

> I don't think your name, age, gender, profession are relevant. You claim your activity is medium, honestly I haven't seen any activity that I recognize. I don't see a single comment which reflects "polite in words" and there's no record of you flagging or voting to close, ever. Add to that, you have voted a grand total of 9 times. Not sure what made you highlight those. Definitely not mod material.

superuser.com/election/2#post-448371

Simon Sheehan

@Sathya Well said, without being rude or anything.

Tom Wijsman

Oh my, I just found a very huge bug...

jokerdino

15:42

kill it with ipad.

that was so not me O_O

Simon Sheehan

Totally did not happen

;)

jokerdino

what happened?

Tom Wijsman

Can't disclose.

jokerdino

:/

KronoS

@TomWijsman is there an extension that you put together for the <kbd></kbd> tags?

jokerdino

15:53

yeah

Tom Wijsman

@KronoS: Oliver's version can do that.

Haven't merged it in yet.

jokerdino

stackapps.com/questions/3341/kbd-markup-shortcuts ?

Tom Wijsman

github.com/oliversalzburg/SuperUser-AutomaticCorrector/commit/…

KronoS

Grrr... how do I donwload these stupid things...

jokerdino

kk, i will edit the rest tmrw

enough mild flooding the front page

KronoS

16:02

@TomWijsman thanks

Tom Wijsman

@KronoS On GitHub you can view the file and then click "raw"

KronoS

@TomWijsman oh ok...

Simon Sheehan

16:15

@TomWijsman oh thats cool

It works quite well too

slhck

16:29

@KronoS @nhinkle You're gonna love that :P

0

A: How can I "throttle" an application so that it doesn't use 100% CPU?

It only has the problem when you play certain songs? What have you been playing? You've been playing Nickelback, haven't you? Linux HATES Nickelback. Stop listening to Nickelback and all your problems will be solved. ;)

Luke

Morning all!

Tom Wijsman

Nickelback works fine on my Linux. — Tom Wijsman 49 secs ago

KronoS

@slhck oh my... how funny.

@Luke mornin

Sathya

here's a nice new! help section

4

Rebecca Chernoff

16:49

not ?, just !

Sathya

@RebeccaChernoff I hear it's your doing ;)

@RebeccaChernoff FTFY ;p

Rebecca Chernoff

@Sathya depends, do you like it? if so, yes, you can shower me with your praise.

if you don't...find someone else to blame. (:

KronoS

Lol

Sathya

@RebeccaChernoff if you were in Ask Ubuntu chatroom, the /blame would automatically rain on me. // @jokerdino

{:

Rebecca Chernoff

lol

Diogo

16:57

Guys, why do all the flags that I marked as "invalid flag"(I do not agree with the existing flags on this answer, they are incorrect and should be ignored.) on 10k rep moderator tools keep it status as "disputed"???? None of these one was marked as helpul for me...

Simon Sheehan

@Diogo I believe you marking it as an invalid flag, while someone else marks it as helpful, means it couldn't be decided upon. So it's disputed.

So then the users flag isn't helpful, or declined... basically counts as nothing.

Diogo

@SimonSheehan hmmm but it is on all of them... I already marked 70 flags as invalid.... any of them got helpful

Simon Sheehan

@Diogo If you mark the flag as invalid, then it isn't a helpful flag

Diogo

@SimonSheehan hmmm sure, so they will always keep in disputed?

Simon Sheehan

@Diogo As far as I know yes. However, probably should get a more definitive answer from an actual 10k user..

Sathya

17:01

@Diogo dispute: disagreement.

you disagree that the flag is helpful, hence disputed.

your vote isn't binding, hence it doesn't count as an invalid.

Simon Sheehan

also 70 invalid flags...quite a few. Wonder what the statistic is for invalid flags..

Diogo

@Sathya sure, so it is the default status, it will always just as it is?

Sathya

@Diogo could you rephrase? I didn't understand what you're asking

that's how it shows to us.

Diogo

@Sathya I mean, the status of my "invalid flag" flags, it just started from disputed status(just after I create the flag) and will keep as disputed for ever... I mean, on normal flags they go from nothing to helpfull, disputed or invalid...

Sathya

@Diogo someone else flags -> you say invalid -> Mod selects no further action -> his flag becomes disputed

you flag -> someone else says invalid -> Mod selects no further action -> your flag becomes disputed

Diogo

17:07

@Sathya understand..... it was just a useless doubt, thank you

Daniel Beck

@Sathya It shows up as disputed for both users, distinguishable only by the message.

Sathya

you flag -> Mod says invalid -> invalid flag

Diogo

maybe I was just confusing what the "disputed" term means...

Sathya

@DanielBeck I see.

I'm off see ya folks. have a good day/evening/night

Daniel Beck

@Sathya "invalid flag" for the disputing user, and whatever message was entered for the flag for the disputed user

@Sathya Good night

Diogo

17:10

@Sathya good afternoon :D

Sathya

@Diogo hehe that too ;)

/ciao

Mokubai

17:36

Anyone got a login at ubuntuforums.org?

Simon Sheehan

I believe I do

yes I do

"You last visited: October 3rd, 2011 at 08:37 PM "

@Mokubai What do you need it for?

Mokubai

I want to fix this but I really don't want yet another login...

I've already flagged it, but don't mind getting a downflag if it's actually worthwhile

Daniel Beck

@Mokubai Soo... I shouldn't vote for deletion?

Simon Sheehan

It isn't worth it. He just linked to a thread with a similar question, not an exactly answer

I think it should be deleted.

Mokubai

Oh, okay then

Delete away

Daniel Beck

17:39

voted.

Mokubai

Thanks @SimonSheehan

Simon Sheehan

no problem :)

Diogo

could someone help to reopen this?? superuser.com/questions/448093/…

Mokubai

Saved me from having to think up and potentially remember yet another password

Diogo

edited by owner and makes sense now...

Simon Sheehan

17:41

@Diogo Hardly edited to make more sense really..

Mokubai

It's already been answered, does it need reopening?

Simon Sheehan

^ I agree with that.

I don't think it needs reopening - it has a definitive answer, that won't change.

Mokubai

I mean it can still get up and downvotes on the answers so it's not like you're loosing out

Diogo

hmm sure...

Mokubai

Well, it got reopened anyway :)

Diogo

17:43

actually, I just don't think a question that meet "opened" requirements to stay closed...

thanks :D

Tom Wijsman

Oh, found a small bug with my 1-4 script, if you type a number in a comment it still interpretes that. Will try to include a check for that text box to not be present later today... :/

Fixed version here: gist.github.com/raw/3105302/… (Remove previous version first, meh, gist isn't actually really handy to provide userscripts through)

Luke

clientsfromhell.net/post/15090866914/…

NOTjust -- user4304

@Luke , LMFAO!!!! thank you thank you, that is excellent... never seen that site before, but that post is sumptuous!

@Luke is it not okay to star that?

soandos

17:59

Anyone know if the fact that the users shown on the /review page next to a category are supposed to be the recently active users, or the users that have reviewed the most?

Mokubai

I would assume recently active, if you hover over their faces you get a last active and it appears vaguely chronological

soandos

@Mokubai, I know that that is what is is, but it seems like a strange choice

Mokubai

why? it makes sense to see who's there at the time, not have it "competition scoreboard" style...

soandos

@Mokubai, just don't recall seeing it anywhere else on SE in that style

Mokubai

That's because it's new ^_^

soandos

18:08

@Mokubai, I mean everywhere else it is competition style

KronoS

   Sub Test()
      With ActiveWorkbook.CustomDocumentProperties
         ' Create custom property "LDate" linked to defined name "**mydate**"
         .Add Name:="LDate", linkToContent:=True, _
           Type:=offPropertyTypeDate, linkSource:="mydate"

         ' Create custom property "LResponse" linked to
         ' defined name "**mydate**"
         .Add Name:="LResponse", linkToContent:=True, _
           Type:=offPropertyTypeString, linkSource:="response"
      End With

      ' Display Properties dialog box to link custom values

ha ha even microsoft's help uses copy paste and has errors

Oh dang... I guess bold doesn't work when using the code feature

NOTjust -- user4304

@slhck it's not rude to post a 'similar' (i.e. suggest a different piece of software than you did) answer to a question is it?

KronoS

@NOTjustuser4304 link?

Mokubai

@NOTjustuser4304 If it's a valid alternative and potentially has a feature that the other one lacks that may benefit the OP then I'd post it, if it's just a clone then I wouldn't

Tom Wijsman

-1

A: Tips for approaching a hanging computer?

Approach hanging computers with caution; you never know when it might fall down.

Can't delete, again...

I think we need a Vote to Delete room now! :D

Simon Sheehan

18:22

@TomWijsman We have one ;)

Tom Wijsman

Oh wait, it's in the room title.

Simon Sheehan

haha

KronoS

@TomWijsman that should be closed as a dupe

NOTjust -- user4304

0

A: Is there a way to "force" an app in OS X to have a menu bar icon?

I have used in the past XMenu (freeware) by devonTechnologies: http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html scroll down to the bottom left. I'm not sure if 'aLaunch' is limited to only one menu or not. XMenu can have an unlimited number of menubar menus.

KronoS

@NOTjustuser4304 that's a valid answer, but I would clean it up a bit. Use @slhck's as a template.

NOTjust -- user4304

18:24

@Mokubai right, makes sense, the app I suggested I believe has a feature advantage over the other one.

KronoS

as far as your question goes, feel free to add answers to questions that are already answered. You could have a different approach that appeals to others

NOTjust -- user4304

Thanks KronoS. so like, include a screenshot and collapse the link maybe? slhck reformatted my first Q here on SU, and did a brilliant job I hadn't been on anything.SE for a while, so I forgot how to use some of the formatting. But it's coming back.

Luke

@NOTjustuser4304 Star away!

NOTjust -- user4304

@Luke done.

KronoS

@NOTjustuser4304 yes I would do just that. and welcome back :)

NOTjust -- user4304

18:30

Thanks!

KronoS

so did we ever figure out what disputed means for the flags?

soandos

It means that a 10k+ user flagged it as invalid

KronoS

@soandos Ah... but a mod did not? So how is it handled?

Luke

@KronoS With a mouse, usually :P JK

KronoS

Lol

soandos

18:32

@KronoS, it depends. If enough people flag it as invalid, I think it becomes declined, but not sure about that. It does stay in the queue though, so a mod can come by and make a decision

KronoS

@soandos ok that's what I figured, but was curious

Luke

soandos

@Luke, I wonder if it still works

Luke

@soandos No cluse

Clue*

Last one for a while...

NOTjust -- user4304

@Luke looks really nice and soft, ergonomic. I'd love that, how organic.

Mokubai

18:47

@Luke Well, I lol'ed....

Luke

I sometimes get bored at work... Sure, I work on 7 computers at a time, but when I got 3 hard drives imaging, 3 others doing updates, and one virus scanning? Gets boring on slow days

Simon Sheehan

@Luke bahaha seen that image a lot lately

slhck

19:05

@NOTjustuser4304 No of course it's not rude at all.

soandos

@slhck, what is the policy with answers that the OP says don't work?

(and are low quality to boot)

KronoS

19:23

@soandos typicall we keep them, unless they're not an answer, or spam, etc,.

even if they're terrible.

@soandos if they're low quality, then they usually are a comment or just link rot

slhck

@soandos Yeah, no forced deletion for those really. Unless they're utter crap.

NOTjust -- user4304

@slhck glad to hear it since I'm grateful to you, my Sensei of Formatting. is 'my Sensei' redundant btw?

KronoS is also my Sensei. -->migrating to English.SE from chat.SE/SU.

slhck

19:45

@NOTjustuser4304 Sensei.. never heard that one, thanks :P

Shiki

http://superuser.com/questions/297541/iptables-openvpn-forward-selectively-from-eth-to-tun
what?

wowpatrick

Someone fancy some iptables fun?

0

Q: Route one network client to VPN server via a Linux gateway server

I have a Ubuntu server (Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS) acting as a gateway to my home network. I set up a VPN connection with the linux-pptp client and now have it as an interface on my home server. ppp0 Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol inet addr:xx.x.xxx.xxx P-t-P:10.0.0.1 Mask:255.25...

God I hate configuring servers ... -.-

Shiki

Just finished configuring mine. I can imagine how much people hate me now for that downtime.. =D

Tom Wijsman

Oh, wow...

slhck

@TomWijsman I love how he defames other candidates.

NOTjust -- user4304

19:55

@TomWijsman can I cast a negative vote?

Tom Wijsman

@NOTjustuser4304 Please try and see if your vote is already in place at the primary, then report that as a bug. :)

slhck

Well.. left a comment, let's see if we get a serious response.

Tom Wijsman

@jokerdino: As it appears not harmful, I'll disclose it and we can roll back in case someone gets around it anyway. Here's the bug:

slhck

Aaand it's gone. Too bad. I really hoped he was taking something seriously this time.

Tom Wijsman

> This post is locked and cannot be edited.

As primary hits, just checking through the histories of each candidate post should suffice.

KronoS

20:08

@TomWijsman O.o what do you mean?

Tom Wijsman

If someone does manage to get around what stops the above screenshot from being impossible.

slhck

@TomWijsman Huh, don't get what you mean

Tom Wijsman

See my above two screenshots, you can get to the second screenshot but you can't actually edit the post.

slhck

@TomWijsman Oh. Now I see.

Tom Wijsman

But normally, locks happen "before" you are able to get to that second screenshot.

/me's been reviewing so much he wanted to give some nomination proper formatting...

Or imagine a suggested edit showing up in the review queue for a nomination post. :D

kinokijuf

20:14

@TomWijsman Why did you withdraw your nomination?

Tom Wijsman

(BTW... Sorry for linking you)

kinokijuf

@TomWijsman no offense.

Tom Wijsman

2 days ago, by Tom Wijsman

@HackToHell: I'm grasping too high, which makes me only bump into negative comments and what not. It's not that I can't withstand and ignore them, but the lack of any positive feedback that's hurting. I don't want to be in a team where there's no support. Perhaps it's bad timing or who knows what, but I have to accept the position I'm in and will not nominate anymore in the future unless that's requested from me...

kinokijuf

@TomWijsman Ah. I see.

Tom Wijsman

Community moderators are accorded the highest level of privilege on our community, and should themselves be exemplars of positive behavior and leaders within the community.

[emphasis mine]

kinokijuf

20:20

@slhck Maybe next year. :P

Tom Wijsman

Basically, getting misconceptions clear on Meta's been a pain. The moment you stand too much behind something that you've thought / known to be right is acted different upon...

...or getting people upset by trying to help them, which was a misconception on the other side. Sometimes indirect communication is a pain.

Luke

4,500 rep... Nice even number!

NOTjust -- user4304

20:48

@slhck the "3Tb"->"3TB" correction is hilarious here: superuser.com/posts/438795/revisions

Tom Wijsman

// Only apply to full lower-case. Otherwise mb is converted to Mb.
.replace(/([0-9]) ?(k|m|g|t)(i)?b\b/g, function(match,$1,$2,$3,$4) { return $1 + ' ' + $2.toUpperCase() + (($3)?$3:'') + 'B'; } )
// When already upper-case, just make sure the spacing is correct.
.replace(/([0-9])(K|M|G|T)(i)?B\b/g, function(match,$1,$2,$3,$4) { return $1 + ' ' + $2 + (($3)?$3:'') + 'B'; } )

NOTjust -- user4304

@slhck I don't think 3 terabits is as impressive as 3 terabytes for a modern HTPC

@TomWijsman oh, it was hilarious because a terabit is a lot less than a terabyte. <br> where does that script live btw?

Tom Wijsman

github.com/TomWij/SuperUser-AutomaticCorrector/blob/master/…

Email address

An email address identifies an email box to which email messages are delivered. An example format of an email address is [email protected] which is read as lewis at example dot net. Many earlier email systems used different address formats. Overview The transmission of email over the Internet normally uses the Simple Mail Transfer Protocol (SMTP), defined in Internet standards RFC 5321 and RFC 5322, and extensions like RFC 6531. Mailboxes themselves are most often accessed using the Post Office Protocol (POP) or the Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP). The general format of an email ...

"()<>[]:,;@\\\"!#$%&'*+-/=?^_{}| ~ ? ^_`{}|~.a"@example.org` is a valid e-mail...

And because there's a ` in there it messed up the code formatting as well. :D

rumtscho

21:12

Hi, I have a problem here but don't know how to turn it into a question good enough for the main site - maybe you can help formulating it?

Basically, I would like to learn programming for android (have some previous experience programming Java and other languages)

and now I want to read the official developer guide offline on my Sony reader.

First I found a question here how to turn a website into an ebook

3

Q: Make an eBook out of a Website

Suppose that I find a interesting Website (having around 50 pages) Suppose that I want to read it offline on my ebook device How can i do it ? I can download the website through HTTrack and then What tool to use to "pack" all downloaded pages into ONE ebook with a table of content ?

ebook

But Sigil won't run on my computer

0

Q: How do I install Sigil on Fedora 17?

I want to use Sigil, which isn't in the official repositories. First I added a repository called home_xwaver and installed it from there, but it started throwing errors, unable to save a book. I found a blog post telling me to change some libraries, but I couldn't find the installation location o...

installation fedora epub

so I installed another software called eCubs, which seems to do similar things, but has less functionality

Tom Wijsman

I/O error : No such file or directory
/usr/share/mime/application/xhtml+xml.xml:1:

Sounds like some dependency is missing.

rumtscho

The problem is that the Android guide has a very broad navigation column which I want to remove from the pages

and eCubs doesn't seem to be able to do that

and I found the code for the navigation, it is rather complicated, full of divs nested in divs, and repeated - but in a slightly different way, depending on where we are in the nav tree - on each page

now I could remove it manually, but that's 250 pages or so

I thought of trying a shell script, but I found SO questions warning against trying to write a regex which recognizes nested divs

Tom Wijsman

Oh wait, it's a separate line.

I/O error : No such file or directory
/usr/share/mime/application/xhtml+xml.xml:1: parser error : Extra content at the end of the document

rumtscho

stackoverflow.com/questions/226562/…

Tom Wijsman

Is there something extra at the end of /usr/share/mime/application/xhtml+xml.xml?

rumtscho

21:19

and I haven't done Web development, my knowledge about these languages is so basic that I think that learning enough to write a simple parser as proposed in the SO question will take me at least half a day, if not a whole one

Tom Wijsman

And yeah, QT is quite big, so running versions side by side is going to be though...

rumtscho

@TomWijsman I get different errors from those in the blog, so I can't tell.

Tom Wijsman

@rumtscho Yeah, regexp isn't good for HTML / XML.

rumtscho

So, my questions is, what is my best option to remove these divs?

Tom Wijsman

Some XML transformation tool, like XSLT.

rumtscho

21:22

but not sure how to make this front-page presentable. It is half a programming question anyway, and if I state it that way, it depends on my knowledge of tools, and I can't list my knowledge in the relevant technologies beforehand because I don't know which ones are relevant.

@TomWijsman so, the simplest way is for me to learn a new programming language?

Tom Wijsman

Well no, you shouldn't need to do that, it should work out of the box if you can get it work with an older version of Qt somehow.

rumtscho

The last time I have touched an XML document programmatically is at least 6 years ago.

Tom Wijsman

Like, compiling the older version of Qt (do not install it though) and moving it into the Sigil folder (don't ask me how though).

rumtscho

@TomWijsman I'm not even sure Sigil can remove these things.

I don't even know where my Sigil folder is

I looked everywhere and didn't find it

and I lost patience with a system-wide "find" command after 90 minutes

Tom Wijsman

GNU locate

updatedb && locate sigil (Could be Sigil)

Updatedb takes a moment but then after that you have an index that you can locate stuff with quite fast.

rumtscho

21:28

/usr/bin/sigil
/usr/share/applications/sigil.desktop
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/16x16/apps/sigil.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/sigil.png
/usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/sigil.png
/usr/share/pixmaps/sigil.png

That's what I found before

no folder with libraries, only one binary

Daniel Beck

@TomWijsman locate -i is case insensitive

Tom Wijsman

@DanielBeck: Ah yeah, like grep -i, wasn't sure if it would support that as well. Didn't look, thanks. :)

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild  N     ] x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.8.2  USE="(-aqua) (-c++0x) -debug -pch (-qpa)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N     ] x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.8.2  USE="exceptions gstreamer jit (-aqua) -debug -icu -pch (-qpa)" 0 kB
[ebuild  N     ] app-text/sigil-0.5.3  12,543 kB

KronoS

Sighs Oh Excel why do you always think you're smarter than I?

Tom Wijsman

[I] x11-libs/qt-core
     Available versions:  (4) 4.7.4-r1 4.8.1-r3 4.8.2
	{{aqua c++0x debug +exceptions +glib iconv icu +jit optimized-qmake pch private-headers qpa qt3support ssl}}
     Installed versions:  4.8.2(4)(12:56:38 AM 06/30/2012)(exceptions glib iconv qt3support ssl -aqua -c++0x -debug -icu -optimized-qmake -pch -qpa)
     Homepage:            qt-project.org qt.nokia.com
     Description:         The Qt toolkit is a comprehensive C++ application development framework

soandos

@KronoS, what are you trying to do?

Tom Wijsman

21:30

I'm on 4.8.2, I could install sigil (it's not blocking me in any way).

Although qt-webkit is a quite big compilation. :S

KronoS

@soandos It's complicated... lol

rumtscho

@TomWijsman install it from what? The source on their google code site?

KronoS

but basically as I'm dynamically inserting and deleting columns, after a while the whole thing blows up on me :/

Tom Wijsman

Through my package manager, I'm on Gentoo Linux.

@rumtscho: But first things first, what sigil version do you have?

rumtscho

The packaged version from the unofficial openSuse directory installs for me and runs, but can't save files

it throws fatal errors when I try to save

slhck

21:31

@kinokijuf Well, I was just hoping for you to explain a little more … why you would nominate yourself etc. Too bad you withdrew, I mean, people said they could overlook the whole retagging thing.

@NOTjustuser4304 It probably isn't, no :P

rumtscho

so I tried to compile from source and the compilation script exited with the error that it needs Qt 4.7

soandos

@KronoS, if you have any issues, feel free to ping me (least for an hour or so)

KronoS

@soandos you a vb expert?

Tom Wijsman

@rumtscho Well, that sounds easier to fix to me. Or is that just the binaries?

soandos

C# mostly, and not so great with VBA :(

though I do know the .NET extentions into office decently well

Tom Wijsman

21:33

@rumtscho What version is that?

rumtscho

@TomWijsman sorry, I don't understand the question - what is the binaries? The version which runs without being able to save comes from a repository.

Version 0.3.4, from build.opensuse.org/package/…

Tom Wijsman

@rumtscho Because, if the version that you can't save with has source code for that version. You could try to fix it, I've found one patch but not sure whether it is that, but the code you need to fix is probably not far from there.

Ah yeah, source code is there. build.opensuse.org/package/…

(that patch was from this issue: code.google.com/p/sigil/issues/detail?id=1335)

rumtscho

But then I would have to compile the code?

Won't I get the same error?

Tom Wijsman

Dunno, are you compiling that exact same code?

From what my package manager tells me, 0.5.3 is compatible with Qt 4.8.2, so you could try compiling that instead of 0.5.2.

rumtscho

It is another bug

h

KronoS

21:38

@soandos ya this is all in VBA :( well at least the parts that I'm working on right now.

rumtscho

Error info: Critical: kfilemodule(3055): couldn't create slave: "Unable to create io-slave:
klauncher said: Unknown protocol ''.
"
Sigil version: 0.3.4
Runtime Qt: 4.8.2
Compiled Qt: 4.8.0
Platform: Linux

KronoS

It's super annoying

rumtscho

@TomWijsman have I downloaded the wrong source then? let me try again

soandos

@KronoS, debugging issue, or not sure how to do something?

Tom Wijsman

Yeah, try getting the last 0.5.3 from Google Code itself.

rumtscho

21:39

No, it was sigil-0.5.3-Code.zip from their page

I suspect that Sigil itself can run with Qt 4.8 but the script which compiles it has 4.7 hardwired as a requirement

and the people who packaged it for your distro went around the script

but I don't know how to compile without the script

But I am willing to give this other software a try, it should be able to make an ebook for me too, then I won't need Sigil

The problem is to decide which makes more sense, removing the navigation per hand or learning enough XSLT or php or whatever language has a parser, then writing a small programm which traverses the files and removes the divs

Tom Wijsman

Getting the compilation to work would make more sense.

rumtscho

@TomWijsman But I don't know if Sigil can remove these divs for me or not

Tom Wijsman

There isn't anything special going on on my platform, just downloading it, removing some extra files and starting compilation and install... bpaste.net/raw/34901

rumtscho

maybe at the end I will spend time solving the Sigil problem only to have a tool which can do no better than eCubs

KronoS

@soandos it was just weird behavior... finally figured it out...

I wasn't deleting entire columns like I thought, but rather a range of cells.

rumtscho

21:45

@TomWijsman ah, do you think I can just write 4.8 in these file names and get it compiled?

soandos

@KronoS, everything is ranges or cells in excel

(or sheets)

KronoS

@soandos right, but I was selecting specific cells instead of their entirecolumns

soandos

@KronoS, got it

Tom Wijsman

http://${PN}.googlecode.com/files/${MY_P}.zip with PN = package name, MY_P = Sigil-${PV}-Code, PV = package version. It just gets it from Google Code, unpacks, ./configure, make, make install.

So, theoretically, it should work. In practice I haven't tested compilation but I don't want to as qt-webkit is quite big...

Can't do more than suggest to take the latest of Google Code and try compiling that.

KronoS

@soandos it's one of those things that is very simple, but at the same time super sneaky and causes a LOT of problems

for example this was cause an overflow issue

Tom Wijsman

21:50

I mean, if you run the latest Qt you should be running the latest Sigil if you want them to be able to work together.

I guess Fedora isn't really up to date with their repo on that.

rumtscho

@TomWijsman yes, it is the latest of Google code which doesn't compile now, 0.5.3. But ./configure ends with an error, or maybe it was make, I forgot which

Tom Wijsman

Which error?

rumtscho

Let me extract and run it again

I tried this a few days ago and forgot

OK, I tried it again

There is no ./configure, I have to make it myself

The docu says to run cmake -G "Unix Makefiles" -DCMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Release /path/to/extracted/folder

Tom Wijsman

Ah, autoconf or something probably. Dunno...

rumtscho

and it says

> CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:97 (MESSAGE):
Could NOT find Qt4 (missing: QT_QTWEBKIT_INCLUDE_DIR) (found suitable
version "4.8.2", required is "4.7.0")
Call Stack (most recent call first):
/usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindPackageHandleStandardArgs.cmake:288 (_FPHSA_FAILURE_MESSAGE)
/usr/share/cmake/Modules/FindQt4.cmake:1172 (FIND_PACKAGE_HANDLE_STANDARD_ARGS)
src/Sigil/CMakeLists.txt:37 (find_package)

and from there, I don't know how to make it use 4.8 instead of 4.7

Tom Wijsman

21:57

@rumtscho: Moment, I'll look into it.

@rumtscho: code.google.com/p/sigil/source/browse/src/Sigil/…

Try filling in 4.8.2 there, it's perhaps a lame fix but let's just see if that can get it to compile.

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