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HackToHell

11:04

@Bob Photos !! Love to see how that happens

Bob

11:17

@HackToHell There's a PSU blocking one side and a large metal frame/plate blocking the other. I can just barely see it, it feels like it's upright, and the diagram indicates a slot shaped.. connector.. it appears to be Slot 1 though.

I knew the PII used a slot, but never knew that about PIII :\

HackToHell

@Bob My PIII did not have Slot I

I had Socket 370 iirc

Bob

@HackToHell I probably have an older one here then

According to Wikipedia, the Katmai (0.25 µm) PIIIs used Slot 1

Those were the first, the ones following (Coppermine (0.18 µm) and later) used 370 :\

Journeyman Geek

lol

mine's a slot 1 as well

@Bob: sounds a LOT like the one i had

Bob

@JourneymanGeek IBM 6564 S7A?

Journeyman Geek

viglen of some sort

was from a british university

I'm trying to see if i have specs of it anywhere

but ya, large passive heatsink

Bob

11:26

@JourneymanGeek Large? This heatsink looks rather inadequate..

Though considering it's a PIII, I have no idea what's adequate :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

I'm gonna go dig for the manual

Journeyman Geek

lol

uploading pix now, yanked it out of the old girl

Bob

Hmm.. I remember seeing the manual somewhere, but can't find it now. Typical.

Did come across 3-4 driver CDs

Journeyman Geek

plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106187684082000485043/albums/…

thats the processor/heatsink

Bob

11:33

Along with a floppy containing CD-ROM drivers xD

Journeyman Geek

its a lot larger than early series PIVs even

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That's a nice large heatsink

Journeyman Geek

ya, built like a shit brickhouse ;p

also

Most of the systems i build have a motherboard diagram inside the case

its the way it should be done ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek This is the first I've seen in years

Journeyman Geek

It saves so much time if you actually intend to work on the system at all ;p

Bob

11:37

Here it is

I don't know if I should bother taking the PSU out, the CPU is blocked by it

Journeyman Geek

that looks the same as mine

Bob

That photo shows more than I can actually see :P

Journeyman Geek

what kinda PSU? A standard ATX one?

Bob

HIPRO

HP-M1454A3

Journeyman Geek

not the brand ;p

Bob

11:39

lol

Journeyman Geek

the size/form factor

Bob

Define standard ATX?

HackToHell

So, how am i supposed to map multiple domains with a single ip, i guess you have to use cname but how ?

Journeyman Geek

intel did that already

;p

Bob

If you're talking about how it's mounted, it's nothing like any other computer here.

Journeyman Geek

11:39

@HackToHell: virtualhosts on your web server

ahh

then unlikely ATX

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek That's it? Awesome

Journeyman Geek

and that case looks really cramped

@HackToHell: along with regular records

I don't bother with Cnames

Bob

imgur's timing out :\

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek Meaning DNS mappings from domain name registars

Journeyman Geek

its been having issues lately

@HackToHell: depends on what you can to do

Bob

11:43

I'm not convinced it's not the uploading app on my phone

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: its probably imgur

been having issues with them all day

Bob

That thing in the middle is the PSU

Journeyman Geek

...

Bob

The CPU is under it

Journeyman Geek

Its ATX under a wierd thing i think ;p

cute

Bob

11:44

With about 3cm separating them

HackToHell

That causes overheating I suppose

Journeyman Geek

they're using the PSU to blow air right into the heat sink

Bob

Seems like it

HackToHell

And it has a VIA chip ;)

Journeyman Geek

or suck it out

oh, those are common

Bob

11:45

If it is ATX, it's too narrow to fit in my mid-ATX tower

Journeyman Geek

thats the wierdest config i have ever seen

Bob

lol

Journeyman Geek

google.com/products/…

Bob

O.O

Journeyman Geek

as is that

Bob

11:46

I can't find the HDD

Journeyman Geek

o0

is it... not there?

HackToHell

lol

Journeyman Geek

i see a unconnected IDE cable on the photo

Bob

Heck, I can't even find where the HDD is supposed to be

There's a lot of unconnected IDE cabled

It's a tangled mess (yes, ribbon cables can tangle)

Journeyman Geek

not all of them may be IDE

there may be random header cables

or scsi, if you're so illfated ;p

also, pretty small board, mine has ISA slots as well

HackToHell

11:49

Does is have an ethernet card as well ?

Journeyman Geek

it does

Bob

@HackToHell Yes

Journeyman Geek

last PCI slot

newer ethernet card tho

HackToHell

Mine did not,had to suck it up using usb

Bob

middle here :\

Journeyman Geek

11:50

(half sized, the older ones actually had a large processor for it)

Bob

I also have two or three spare PCI ethernet cards somewhere

Journeyman Geek

lol

I think so do i

no use tho, everything has it built in now

Bob

Hm.. I wonder if I can use this as a fancy router, so I can finally fix the triple-NAT going on on my network.

Journeyman Geek

lol

HackToHell

Damn google dns sucks, it takes them forever to update their dns records

Journeyman Geek

11:51

some cisco routers were pentium IIIs

Bob

Aha! I found an old HDD mounted on a sliding thing.. looks like it would fit in this case

That would be why I couldn't find a HDD mount, this looks.. different

HackToHell

And again PHOTO ! (Weird computers are awesome)

Journeyman Geek

lol

I'm getting reminded of the original random hungarian

(there's a bunch of hungarians on G+, all of them are friends of an online friend. They have their own circle called 'random hungarians)

Bob

ooh

Maxtor HDD, 13.5GB

Journeyman Geek

lol

thats small

Bob

11:54

it's got IBM labels on it, it's probably right

Journeyman Geek

but sounds about right for that era

Bob

Made in Singapore ;)

Journeyman Geek

lol

maxtor had a factory here

(actually so did seagate, and hitachi, and some company called hoya)

Bob

Hmm.. Maxtor and Seagate merged at some point

Journeyman Geek

lol

we're down to three hard drive companies.. possibly 4, if simmtronics isn't someone's idea of a joke ;p

Bob

11:56

There's a little speaker in the front too :P

Journeyman Geek

dude

the speaker is AWESOME

Bob

I wonder why they leave those out now

Journeyman Geek

save costs i presume

thats the problem with modern computers

Bob

lol

Would have been negligible :\

Journeyman Geek

I used to be able to tell if my connection was proper based off modem noises ;p

Bob

11:58

That's where I think the HDD goes

Now I just have to figure out how to insert it

Journeyman Geek

ahh

it uses a caddy

Bob

I can't plug it in now :P

I don't think I've ever worked on a computer this cramped

Journeyman Geek

god, that's the most crammed standard case i have ever seen

lol

I have worked on something worse

mini ITX + Pata...

but if you were going to, opening up everything and neatening it up sounds good

(and a quick prayer to $deity)

Bob

Just seeing photos of a mini ITX board scares me

the motherbard diagram shows ights for alert on LAN and wake on LAN o.O

huuh, a rocker switch?

One is labelled floppy write protect, clear CMOS, N/A and N/A. The other is not labelled, but has 8 switches. I wonder what that could be for..

Hey, this thing actually has a CD audio player in it! :D

Of course, the CD audio header is on the corner opposite the CD drive..

@JourneymanGeek superuser.com/questions/362199/…

You wanna suggest Chrome for him? :D

HackToHell

12:15

Wait Xbox is a short form for DirectX box Oh ms ....

Journeyman Geek

13:56

@Bob: actually, he can use firefox with vnc

Journeyman Geek

14:24

@Bob: mini itx boards arn't bad

some of the cases are horrifying

Boris_yo

14:36

@JourneymanGeek Were on a shopping spree on Memorial Day?

Journeyman Geek

newp

why would i be?

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Because it happens once a year. Discounts and all stuff... non-USA people use this as opportunity to import stuff from USA.

Journeyman Geek

oh, naw

I hardly buy stuff from the US, unless i can't get it here or i don't want to wait

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek You are not USA'er?

Journeyman Geek

obviously not ;p

Boris_yo

14:39

@JourneymanGeek Where are you?

Journeyman Geek

singapore

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Maybe you told me this once. I don't remember.

@JourneymanGeek And I was on a killing spree (Unreal Tournament).

Journeyman Geek

i was about to ask what game ;p

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek I thought you would think in real life I perform killing spree. At least not yet without 200000mW wireless adapter.

Journeyman Geek

only if you drop it on people's head

Boris_yo

14:41

@JourneymanGeek And if 200000Watt? I won't need to drop?

@JourneymanGeek How about 200000MegaWatt? = Chuck Norris Kick!

@JourneymanGeek Do you read a lot non-digital books? This gadget seems nice:

http://www.focalprice.com/HJ215B/Eye_Protective_Portable_LED_Reading_Book_Light_Black.html

Journeyman Geek

lol

I read dead trees, yes

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Why dead trees?

Ever heard about this innovative thing? I don't understand why would one need it if laptop can be used, smartphone with HDMI, DVD player etc.

http://dx.com/p/1080p-full-hd-android-2-3-network-media-player-w-2-x-usb-sd-hdmi-lan-optical-cvbs-audio-r-l-101829

Journeyman Geek

14:57

cheaper i presume

heck, i wouldn't mind one of those if it was a little cheaper

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek You are about TV Android gadget?

Journeyman Geek

actually dosen't need to be, but i'd like a more grown up OS as an option

lol

I like hacking things

Boris_yo

Wonder if this will improve my killing spree...

http://dx.com/p/stainless-steel-kitchen-knife-18-3cm-blade-103998

All these can't be knockoffs!

http://dx.com/c/consumer-electronics-199/memory-cards-111/sd-card-118

Journeyman Geek

the reviews look horrible for the android box

they might be

ever heard of Bunny Huang?

bunniestudios.com/blog/?p=918

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I can imagine

William Hilsum

15:02

@Sathya or @Studiohack - are you around

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: If you went for a all in one board with sata (like the atom or hudsons) they're actually not too bad

techreport.com/discussions.x/22990 this case dosen't look too scary

even swallows up a standard PSU

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That looks quite comfortably sized, but a fair bit bigger than I was expecting of mini-ITX :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

both my mini itx cases are the standard shuttle style ones

i've seen smaller, and bigger tho

or you could (for whatever reason) do a mini itx build in a matx or atx style case

Bob

I'm still trying to get that old computer to start. Finally found a VGA cable, got a keyboard and a live CD, but I can't figure out how to get this thing to boot off the CD

Journeyman Geek

hmm

is the cd drive functional?

Bob

15:07

I hope I'm not going to need that old Win98 startup floppy I found xD

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

No idea :D

Journeyman Geek

pIIIs should be cd bootable

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'll probably play around more tomorrow

I just hope the heatsink isn't too dusty, it's too cramped to clean without removing the PSU first

Don't particularly want to fry the CPU so soon

Journeyman Geek

15:25

lol

ya

Journeyman Geek

15:37

ack

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Q: Hard drive shows as empty but still uses hundreds of GB

I have a 1 TB hard drive. When I connect the hard drive and access it, I see that it is empty. But there is 686 GB space used and 244 GB free space (as it was before).

er

he posted "thank you, problem solved" without actually giving any details on how it was solved

Bob

Or worse, one finds a forum where the exact same question is asked, and then followed up by a post that merely says "found the answer, thanks" — Ether Sep 10 '09 at 19:19

jokerdino

it's a medical miracle.

Bob

Cool, chat inserts comments as quotes? :D

studiohack

15:59

here @WilliamHilsum

William Hilsum

it's cool - someone from gaming.se is helping me out! Only the usual! :)

studiohack

@WilliamHilsum cheers then :)

William Hilsum

sorry, hope it didn't alert you specially :/ I always feel guilty when I do this!

studiohack

@WilliamHilsum no, no worries, I enjoy helping!

Oliver Salzburg