Root Access

Journeyman Geek

00:53

@OliverSalzburg: I'm tempted to mess around with moving an install between processor architectures now ;p

I'm deleting the answer on sysprep for now, pending testing

Journeyman Geek

01:58

superuser.com/suggested-edits/11792 <- rejected edit for spelling errors >_>

HackToHell

02:42

@Boris_yo I found it through reddit

Bob

@JourneymanGeek o.O

> correct the grammar

2 != "to"...

wow

@OliverSalzburg I thought it was "Bob's your uncle" @iglvzx?

nhinkle

03:01

Goddamn HP hold music. What crap. Also the voiceover of the cheery robot lady telling me about how great HP is... I WOULD NOT BE CALLING IF YOUR PRODUCT HADN'T BROKEN, JERK

Bob

@nhinkle lol

I haven't had to call HP support yet

nhinkle

Damn cooling fan broke.

Fortunately, got a loaner laptop to use in the meantime.

Bob

@nhinkle Nice timing, I got my replacement pack of HP screws a few minutes ago :P

@nhinkle Ouch :\

Journeyman Geek

03:26

@Bob: so did i

@nhinkle: about the only thing nice i can say about lenovo/IBM support is they never put me on hold ;p

@Bob so did i

hm

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/71801/… I'm a little baffled to why this was migrated as opposed to closed (and i didn't vote to migrate, i voted to close)

nhinkle

@JourneymanGeek was there a lot of non-nice things you had to say about them?

Journeyman Geek

@nhinkle: they weren't very efficient, took them nearly 4 weeks to work out the broken USB port was covered by insurance...

nhinkle

that's frustrating

what computer model?

Journeyman Geek

and i'm still convinced it was a material fault, the replacement board seems fine so far

x220

Its a lovely machine otherwise

nhinkle

i've heard those are nice

is it the tablet version or the regular version?

Journeyman Geek

03:31

they are

regular/stripped down in my case

core i5, no camera or wireless wan

(i don't mind the cameralessness, actually)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek No WLAN? I didn't even know they made laptops now without WLAN

nhinkle

My next laptop purchase - whenever that may be - will likely be either an ASUS or a Thinkpad

Journeyman Geek

my bad

it has lan, not yanno, mobile broadband thing

nhinkle

I have my eye on those new Thinkpad T530/T540 series w/ ivy bridge. They look niiiceee.

Also the new ASUS Zenbooks... the 13" feather-light beauty with a 1080p IPS screen. DROOL

Bob

I just stumbled on this: arstechnica.com/gadgets/2011/12/…

That is unbelievably... well... stupid.

Journeyman Geek

03:33

lol

I'll be upgrading my desktop

Bob

96GB of RAM?! Just what the heck is the point of this?

Journeyman Geek

lol

the god box?

Bob

Yea..

Journeyman Geek

(damnit, AT won't load on my ISP. need to use tor STAB)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek o.O

Does Singapore filter?

Journeyman Geek

03:34

naw

they have random glitches with some sites

Bob

That's... weird.

Journeyman Geek

its just this one ISP

Bob

Crappy caching?

Journeyman Geek

I should bitch at them but its too much work

@Bob: thats the AT god build. Its meant to be excessive

nhinkle

I want me one of them 27" 1560x1440 monitors...

Bob

03:35

@JourneymanGeek Still.. even the 'budget' one is crazy. As in, completely unecessary.

nhinkle

Or three of them.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: crazy how?

Its a fairly sensible build

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Maybe my definition of 'budget' doesn't include an extra $100 for a discrete video card.

Journeyman Geek

If you game, its worth it

and thats the aim of this

Bob

@JourneymanGeek If you game.. well, let's just say my i5 laptop using the IGP is actually better in terms of FPS if not heat than an i3 desktop we have using a 6850.

Journeyman Geek

03:40

if you REALLY wanted a budget box, just get a matx board with a cheap AMD or pentium (and the AMD's IGPs are pretty decent), load it up with as much ram as you can, cheap AMD....

o0

my core i5 has issues with minecraft

been meaning to try one of the source based games with a larger monitor, but not really been in the mood

nhinkle

If you REALLY want a budget box, get a Pi

But seriously, you need a dedicated GPU for a lot of stuff. Gaming, 3D modeling, CAD, rendering, serious video encoding, serious graphic design, >2 monitors...

Journeyman Geek

lol

nhinkle

Not saying you need the most expensive one, but you can get a dedicated GPU for around $30

Journeyman Geek

@nhinkle: I currently run local server stuff off a old atom mini itx box and a thumb drive

for about the same amount, i could build a low end AMD desktop i think

Hard drives are about the only thing thats gone up in price

The pi is nice for what it is, but you're horribly crippled if you need something more than web/video/audio

nhinkle

true, true

Journeyman Geek

03:49

and from a power user point of view, why would we build budget boxes?

(evaluation? x86 sounds more flexible, we arn't stuck with specific linux builds. Loaner systems? windows sounds like a better bet...)

Bob

@nhinkle I wouldn't want a budget box for any of these :P

I'm still not sure whether QuickSync is actually good or not, but if it is, video encoding could be crossed off that list.

nhinkle

It would make a decent HTPC if you don't need >720p

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: i have a bit of a thing there. I have lots of spare VGA monitors. I'll very likely plug one into a discrete + igped box

speaking of which

adds his name to the raspberry pi queue ;p

sadly i'm spending more money than planned this month, but it shouldn't drastically delay my plans

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That reminds me, I need to find something to do with this bag of DVI cables. I don't have 20 spare monitors/ports :P

nhinkle

@Bob sell 'em on eBay?

Bob

03:54

@nhinkle What, 50c/$1 ea?

nhinkle

shrug

Or donate 'em to some local school or something that needs computer parts

Bob

Hm.. eBay DVI cable prices have gone up. Nice.

@nhinkle The local school was selling computers, complete with monitor/keyboard/mouse/cables

$60 for a Pentium 4/D with varying amounts of RAM (512, 768, 1024)

nhinkle

nice!

although so much for that idea :P

Journeyman Geek

06:04

hmm

Apparently a safe at home dosen't work any more

/me wonders if i can have it

though if i had the electronics skills, replacing the electronics with a microprocessor sounds fun

Boris_yo

06:19

@TomWijsman Awesome!

@JourneymanGeek You mean money safe?

Journeyman Geek

metal box. has a fingerprint scanner

about the size of maybe 2 mini atx towers side by side

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek So you can chop owner's finger and get an access?

@JourneymanGeek This scares me:

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Q: I found that the company I work for is putting a backdoor into mobile phones

I have found out recently that the remote assistant software that we put in a smartphone we sell can be activated by us without user approval. We are not using this option, and it is probably there by mistake. But the people who are responsible for this system don't see it as a big deal. Because...

Journeyman Geek

this is why i have a secret weapon

i'm actually boring

@Borisyo: no

the scanner has failed

so we have to use the key

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek What drill model do you use?

Journeyman Geek

drill?

no need for one in this case

but can't go wrong with a dremel for small holes

Boris_yo

06:27

@JourneymanGeek What "no"?

Journeyman Geek

chopping the finger would be pointless

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek You just said you are boring.

Journeyman Geek

since the scanner has failed ;p

I am!

its true security by obscurity

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek That's why I asked what drill you use for such a job.

Journeyman Geek

Well, actually, most safes have a backup opening method

usually one or two keys

you open up an access panel (often with a key), insert another key and use that to turn the bolts open

Boris_yo

06:31

@JourneymanGeek What do you think about that link where employee claims his company abuses mobile phones for backdoor?

Journeyman Geek

hmm

well

my first loyalty is to the guys who help me pay my bills.. ;p

and well, i wouldn't trust any senstive information on a system i didn't implicitly trust

(and i don't trust cellphones)

Boris_yo

06:50

BOX is now like Dropbox:

app.en25.com/e/…

Journeyman Geek

dosen't seem very secure if you can link that

i'm currently using cubby

another sync programme, you can set any folders you want, and unlimited sync between your own systems

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek What is so insecure there? You still must login to your account.

@JourneymanGeek SonySmartWatch? Any thoughts?

http://store.sony.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666443169#features&XID=O:smartwatch:dg_smrtwtch_gglsrch:p&k_id=70e502c5-5633-c388-e33a-00000e3d7637

Journeyman Geek

pfft

watches need to have 2-3 hands

or 4 digits

Boris_yo

And how do they shoot such professionally good looking videos and pictures? Do they use expensive DSLRs? Can i shoot same with bridge cameras (advanced P&S)?

Journeyman Geek

Well, part of it is practice, settings and such

Boris_yo

06:56

@JourneymanGeek ... and separate expensive lens? Okay what if I ask you about shots of nature and insects on National Geographic? I am sure you will say they have PROshooters using latest and gratest, advancest DSLR.

Journeyman Geek

in many cases, yes

but a lot of it is using your camera right

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek I like to shoot beautiful things, food, apply effects. All I have is my Android smartphone though...

Journeyman Geek

smartphones tend to have horrible lenses ;p

ooh

nzxt.com/new/products/case_accessories/aperture_m want!

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Yeah and image sensor... lots of noise.

@JourneymanGeek A card reader?! Just buy 1 for $4 on DX!

@JourneymanGeek Why 2-3 hands?

Journeyman Geek

@Borisyo: also USB 3.0 Port headers...

hour/minute, or hour/minute/second

heya @jokerdino

Bob

07:04

@Boris_yo Photos from the Nokia 808 look quite nice. Well, with that sensor.. o.O

Journeyman Geek

the pureview?

Bob

Yea

Journeyman Geek

thats an insane sensor

and the method they use is interesting

Bob

Pity they aren't releasing it in Australia..

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek What is so bad about Sony smartwatch? You can switch tracks, look on time... can call with it?

Oliver Salzburg

07:05

@JourneymanGeek I actually wasn't aware of sysprep at all. I have no experience with it. The documentation just sounded risky.

Journeyman Geek

@Boris_yo too complicated

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Are you replying to me?

Journeyman Geek

@OliverSalzburg: people do it quite often actually, especially when moving hard drives between systems

Bob

@OliverSalzburg I've always wondered what side effects Sysprep could have...

Journeyman Geek

Someone should try that and waik and post it on SU blog

Boris_yo

07:06

@JourneymanGeek For $149.99?

Journeyman Geek

heh

Oliver Salzburg

Well, work time! :)

Journeyman Geek

my current watch costs 2 dollars ;p

I only use it during exams

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, your "smartwatch"... because you use it during exams.

@OliverSalzburg I will check on you after 1 hour. Make your report ready.

Oliver Salzburg

@Boris_yo ;D We're finalizing our Windows Server deployment for our customer :)

Can only be done on the weekend :P

Boris_yo

07:09

@OliverSalzburg I am watching you

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek hi

Boris_yo

If teleportation was invented, would all shipping businesses go out of business?

Journeyman Geek

I just registered for a raspberry pi today ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek What's the current backlog?

Journeyman Geek

donno

(but since the other thing i want is also out of stock, ahh what the hell)

HackToHell

07:33

Wow, mysql is such a pain ...

Boris_yo

07:44

@HackToHell Do you have databases background?

HackToHell

Nope, first time

Boris_yo

@HackToHell As you get your hands dirties, it will get easier. It is hard to kill someone first time, but then the more you do it, the better you get at it and easier it gets.

HackToHell

@Boris_yo You are right, the more problems that arise, the more experience I get :0

Journeyman Geek

lol

@HackToHell: i find using phpmyadmin makes it easier at first

trying to wean myself off it for security reasons tho

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek MySQL is eating up 186mb of ram, if i change the configs, it crashes or does something weird, trying to get the mem usage under 70 mb.

Journeyman Geek

07:55

OH

I got mine down somewhat

if i can remember what the config file was called...

HackToHell

/etc/mysql/my.cnf

or if your overrode the config, it will be in /etc/mysql/conf.d/[any.cnf file]

Journeyman Geek

I think i've used this before somewhere github.com/rackerhacker/MySQLTuner-perl#readme

HackToHell

I already ran it and several other tools

Journeyman Geek

ahh

one moment while i pull this up

Boris_yo

Powerful pack of emotions caught me off guard this morning:

►

@HackToHell Yes and eventually you get perks like sharpshooter, two-handed and more criticals.

HackToHell

08:04

Wow, killing innodb, pulls the plug on memory usage, 90 mb improvement :) :)

Journeyman Geek

hm, something is up with my ISP

more wierdness than usual

ya, it does

HackToHell

My ssh session is sucky cause of the insane ping with my box, 250, everything happens very slowly

@Boris_yo Making me sad :/

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: cubby.com/p/187bd2db6c464128b6d7df6eb684ce0b/my.cnf

thats mine

hopefully there's no passwords there ;p

HackToHell

mostly no :p

Journeyman Geek

I can't remember what half those changes are, or where i got em from

HackToHell

08:15

@JourneymanGeek You too skip innodb, must have done it in the beginning.

@JourneymanGeek How much mem does it use ?

Mine's now running at 28 mb :) :)

But mysqltuner reports this and google or geek's config is helping
[!!] Maximum possible memory usage: 426.8M (166% of installed RAM)

@Sathya Do you know abt mysql configs ?

Boris_yo

08:47

@HackToHell Reminds me of RPG games like Icewind Dale.

Oliver Salzburg

Damn

I missed the 123456 question mark :(

Boris_yo

There is the only person who can do finger push-ups. Who is that person?

Journeyman Geek

09:04

@HackToHell: that would depend on your load, really

another way to save memory is just not to use mysql ;p

HackToHell

@Boris_yo Have never played it

@JourneymanGeek hmmm yeah, i am running wp so i need mysql :0

Journeyman Geek

you could, in theory use a non local mysql server

(of course there's risks involved)

HackToHell

I could but that beats the purpose of using a VPS ;p

Journeyman Geek

lol

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Do you think 200000mW Wi-Fi network adapter would kill people over the air?

HackToHell

09:14

lol

Journeyman Geek

o0

if you have that many zeros the m is redundant

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek Is it possible to kill with 200000watts wireless adapter?

Journeyman Geek

in oh so many ways

I could, for example drop it on your head

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HackToHell

how do people die ??

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: oh let me count the ways. Damn i'm out of fingers and toes and other assorted limbs

Boris_yo

09:17

@JourneymanGeek That is only one person. How do i kill masses?

Journeyman Geek

very enthusiastically i suppose

HackToHell

@Boris_yo You are the next Hitler ;p

Boris_yo

"The death of one man is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic."

- Joseph Stalin

HackToHell

:P

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: darn it, you invoked godwin

Boris_yo

09:19

@JourneymanGeek Who's godwin?

Journeyman Geek

full of questions this one is

jokerdino

lol, it happens. eventually.

Journeyman Geek

Godwin's law

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies) is an observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990 In other words, Godwin observed that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably makes some comparison to Hitler and the Nazis. Godwin's law is often cited in online discussions as a deterrent against the use of arguments in the widespread Reductio ad Hitlerum form. The rule does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might b...

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek i only influenced @Borisyo's thought's, you cannot blame me ;p

Journeyman Geek

hm, I just turned up the backlight on my keyboard...

but i touchtype, so i have no idea why i did that ;p

jokerdino

09:20

Godwin's law = talk about Hitler in an online discussion.

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: irrelevant ;p

HackToHell

:P

Boris_yo

Actually I was not thinking about Hitler, Stalin. Only about Nikola Tesla and Einstein.

Journeyman Geek

tesla never killed anyone

that bastard edison...

jokerdino

You meant Einstein.

Boris_yo

09:23

@JourneymanGeek I know that Tesla was about to invent wireless electricity but had his financing cancelled. I wanted to know if wireless electricity can kill.

Journeyman Geek

edison

Eintein was awesome

theoatmeal.com/comics/tesla

3

Boris_yo

@jokerdino Physics Einstein is about as well.

Journeyman Geek

@Borisyo: sure it can. Back in the old days, before these newfangled things called lightning rods, we had this thing called lightning

we'd go uphill both ways in the rain... and when we least expected it.. WHAM. kentucky fried kid.

Boris_yo

@JourneymanGeek No, I don't mean lightning from rods and tesla coils. Just wireless electricity. Like radio transmissions travelling through our bodies.

Journeyman Geek

lightning is wierless electricity

ohh... RADIO WAVES

2 words

faraday cage ;p

Boris_yo

09:27

Here, let me clarify:

►

jokerdino

@JourneymanGeek thanks. that was a good read.

Paul

09:43

Interesting

If you are coming from an AWS address you can only access the API

HackToHell

10:23

@jokerdino the best, i knew edison was crook, but then this much, then he is a complete Ahole

Star the tesla article everybody or I am hitting you !!

@JourneymanGeek en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Douchebag&action=history LOOK AT THE EDIT HISTORY, a lot of people added Thomas Edison :) :)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek superuser.com/questions/419826/…

:P

Journeyman Geek

oh dear god

thats even more of a cluster**** than i'd dare to do

thats just too many partitions

The 'right' way to do it (not the way i did it ;p) would be to have the bootloader for each os on its own partition

then use chemeleon to select which partition to boot from

Bob

10:44

@JourneymanGeek Chemeleon?

Journeyman Geek

the bootloader a lot of hackintosh varients use

it just selects a partition to boot from

Bob

o.O

Journeyman Geek

lol

if your hardware is supported its fairly simple, just install the other OSes first

Bob

Couldn't the same thing be achieved through chainloading with GRUB?

Though it's probably harder to configure :\

Journeyman Geek

hm, well...

I also have grub, and bcd

Bob

10:48

The only real experience I've had with setting up multi-boot was a Live USB

Journeyman Geek

but if i picked my XP partition it'd fail, i need to pick 7 then XP from there

Bob

I've stayed away from it with OSes I actually use, there's too much chance of killing something...

Journeyman Geek

multibooting is fun if you have spare hardware

(which i eventually do)

though i seem to alternate between not having enough, and OHMYGODWHEREDIDALLTHISCOMEFROM

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I just realised I have a PIII sitting in the corner :\

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

10:50

hmm

Journeyman Geek

I had one, it blew up. twice.

Bob

Designed for Windows NT/98

wow

Journeyman Geek

Anything older than a PIV is quite useless tho

(PSU blew up, and one day it stopped booting)

and i gave up cause i realised i kept it running out of spite ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I'm pretty sure it would run better than my old P4

Journeyman Geek

(someone claimed it wouldn't run more than a day cause it was passively cooled. I had it running for YEARS)

lets see..

Bob

10:51

That thing overheats in 15 mins to the point of thermal shutdown

Journeyman Geek

lol

PIVs are unlucky

they run hot AND often have bad caps

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I can't seem to find a fan on this PIII

One in the front, one in the PSU. The CPU only has a heatsink..

I wonder if it still runs?

ooh, is that an AGP slot?

I love how IBM computers have motherboard diagrams inside the case :D

Wait a sec, is this CPU mounted in a slot?!

wtf...

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