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1:05 PM
heh
I dealt with something a little less powerful than that, at a old job
was for the guys doing modeling of car parts for JLR.
 
Anyone know where the log file for FTP is on Windows 10?
Client.
 
what client?
 
What do you mean?
 
what FTP client are you using?
 
Client is Windows 10 machine. Want to know where the log file is or how to see previous connections.
Ah
Just regular Windows FTP.
(CMD ftp)
 
1:11 PM
via cmd line?
 
Yes
 
ah
no idea, i didn't think it did logging
 
Is there anyway to start logging?
 
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Q: how can I save the output of windows internal FTP client?

Denes Tarjan UPDATED: on win2k it seems it works OK. Sorry for the confusion. MS Windows Vista internal ftp client has a strange behavior. When redirecting its output and error to a file, the errors do not show up there: ftp -n -s:commands.txt host >output.log 2>&1 When running it from Task Schedul...

 
Or to tell what's causing it to run? I see it in network logs but not sure what its using it.
Ooo thanks ill take a look
@Burgi Well I am not intentionally connecting so I can't enter that when connecting.
 
1:14 PM
it looks like you have to specify the logging on a per session basis
 
Bob
 
@Burgi It appears to be an application causing it to run just not sure which one
 
Bob
When Borderlands bugs out...
 
thanks by the way
 
Bob
It was meant to chuck down like 8 drops. They... just kept coming o.O
 
1:15 PM
@JBis check the task scheduler
if you know the destination server you might be able to make an educated guess as to the app using ftp
 
Checking...
@Burgi Theres a lot of things there how can I look through efficiently
@Burgi Seeing if I can find out that information. Correction: Software was security software not networking software so not sure destination but checking networking
Cant find
 
sadly its a case of going through each task and checking manually
 
brutal
 
user tasks tend to be in the root folder
there are about 30
if you know the time it runs you can match up the tasks in the scheduler
 
wdym The tree I'm looking at is Task Scheduler Library>Microsoft>Windows>Many, Many Folders with couple tasks in each.
 
1:31 PM
yeah just click the top level folder
thats all the user tasks
 
So "Task Scheduler Library"? It doesn't display recursively (tasks in folders in it)
 
correct
 
so I gotta go through each
grr windows
 
well not really
you only need to look at the ones with execute times that match your security log
 
@Burgi Yes. But how to search?
/filter
 
1:38 PM
 
@Burgi Just checked manually nothing matches time any other idea?
trying to find destination
 
2:14 PM
Anyone have any other ideas?
 
2:30 PM
um, set fire to the sun?
 
@Nick :|
 
Do you have enough info now to post a full Q on the main site?
 
@bertieb I guess I could. If I can't figure out soon I think I can.
 
Bob
lmao
we've all made that joke about the mac pro looking like a bin...
@allquixotic & @JourneymanGeek ^
 
3:12 PM
arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggh
trying to setup 4G router for a site
and can't get signal to test >_<
 
3:23 PM
cya
 
\o
@JBis Fingers crossed! If you do figure it out, you could post it as a self-answered question if it would be of help to others :)
 
@bertieb Yep. Gonna try our great nosed (get the reference? Awful joke.) application Wirehshark.
 
I have a variable in bash that points to a file, so that "echo $MYVAR" returns "FILE:/path/to/file". How can I simply get the path, without the "FILE:" in front of it? Do I really need to split the string or is there an easier way?
ah, ended up finding a solution using cut
 
3:39 PM
 
3:55 PM
@XKCD truth.
welp. that's me sending a way a router which I kind of have no clue how it's working
but alas, no time to fix it >_<
@Rickyfox gonna say cut or sed using : as a delimiter would work.
 
Little late on the scheduled task thing, but you could have used PowerShell!
A combination of Get-ScheduledTask and Get-ScheduledTaskInfo (not sure why they're separate TBH) will do the job
 
@BenN i thought you were too busy so i didn't invoke Start-BenN --verbose ;P
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Hehe, I just got my coffee
 
4:41 PM
i'm running windows 10 on a mac. how the heck can i enable bios?
i've tried a variety of key combinations recommended but none of them are working.
 
You can get into the advanced startup menu by holding Shift while clicking the Restart option
From there you can get into system setup on most PCs, not sure about Macs
 
okay, i'll try that and see if it works
 
Mac's don't have a traditional BIOS
but i haven't bootcamped anything so i have no idea
 
Oh hey my S7 has 4 antenna for every band that it's not useful on and not on any of the ones it is useful on
 
it still wouldn't have bios...
 
4:48 PM
that didn't work.
a menu came up, and i clicked through different options, but none of them had any way to enable bios.
 
What exactly did it do?
Oh
What do you mean by "enable BIOS"?
 
Mac's don't have a bios
hell, most computers don't anymore either.
 
i'm trying to install the "ISE Development Environment" program - it's basically to program FPGAs - which my dad installed successfully on a similar machine, so i'm now trying to do it on mine.
 
ok....
And what does that have to do with bios?
 
the error when i try to run the installer is 'virtualization is not enabled in bios'.
 
4:51 PM
yeah....
what era mac are we talking about here?
 
uh... one moment, let me check
 
some CPUs don't allow virtualization
 
according to my system summary, a MacbookPro 11,4
it provides a BIOS version and date, is that useful?
it says: Apple Inc. MBP114.88Z.0183.B00.1804091616, 4/9/2018
 
> restart your machine and use the option key at startup to select the OS-X partition and boot into the Mac OS again. there go to the System preferences and then to the Startup disk option. Then you select your boot camp partition and click reboot.
 
hooboy, okay
 
4:57 PM
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A: How to turn on Hardware Virtualization on Late 2013 MacBook Pro (for Windows 8.1 using Boot Camp)?

AlienIt sounds like you're running into the same issue I did, where after booting into Windows the VT-x shows as 'Disabled' in Task Manager. Not sure how or why, but after going into OS X System Preferences Target Disk Select the BOOTCAMP disk as the startup disk Everything was well after th...

 
This thread explains that you have to boot using the CSM-BIOS layer. discussions.apple.com/thread/6720461?tstart=0 ; In addition it also provides a command line to permanently fix this problem. First use diskutil list to work out Windows partition, then sudo /usr/sbin/bless --device /dev/disk0s4 --setBoot --legacy --legacydrivehint /dev/disk0Chui Tey Dec 23 '16 at 23:10
 
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A: How to turn on Hardware Virtualization on Late 2013 MacBook Pro (for Windows 8.1 using Boot Camp)?

DeepSpace101EDIT: I found a better way to get this working instead of the boot dance originally suggested (it's below for reference). Basically set enable_and_lock_vmx true in rEFInd and that's it. Details below ... Suggested method Disable macOS System Integrity Protection/SIP (Reboot Mac, hold down Comm...

 
okay, i'm in the startup disk option and i selected the boot camp partition, but it won't let me reboot
it says "the bless tool was unable to set the current boot disk"
 
shrug
 
you probably passed it the wrong block device
check if it's not actually /dev/disk0s4 but something different
 
5:07 PM
sorry, how do i check that?
 
use disk utility in macOS and look at the detailed info for each partition, then find the correct block device path for the partition that's your bootcamp partition
 
under the detailed info there isn't a "block device path"; it does say BSD device node is disk0s4, so is that right?
 
same thing, different terminology
 
okay.
 
that's for bootcamp? ok, then the bless thing isn't a solution
there isn't a proper "BIOS" on a Macbooks though... like I've never seen one... more than likely, either Hyper-V is enabled and blocking your ability to use other VMs (check if it's an installed feature of your OS), or (from reading that thread) more likely, VT-x is disabled
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A: How to turn on Hardware Virtualization on Late 2013 MacBook Pro (for Windows 8.1 using Boot Camp)?

jcesarmobileIt seems that if you boot directly to Windows it doesn't work, but if you boot to OS X and switch to Windows, it works. Or you can boot to Windows, change to OS X and go back to Windows again.

 
5:13 PM
> Microsoft Hyper-V must be off for Windows 10 to start up on a Mac using Boot Camp. If you try to boot into Windows 10 with Hyper-V turned on, you see only a black screen and Windows doesn't start.
windows does boot successfully so i don't think it can be that.
 
I mean, it could, if VT-x was working
 
i'll try to see if VT-x is disabled.
@allquixotic oh, well then =)
 
Hyper-V, the software you're trying to run, and other VMs like VMware, Docker, VirtualBox, etc. all need VT-x, but only one can lock the instructions at a time... they absolutely do not cooperate
so if you have anything like that installed Windows-side, it's likely contributing to the problem
 
i don't think i have anything like that installed.
 
more than likely if you check task manager like many posts in that thread say, it will say VT-x disabled, in which case the answer I posted a few lines above might help
 
5:18 PM
is vt-x = VTDecoderXPCService?
because i'm not sure it's disabled.
 
VT-x is a CPU feature, not a Windows service
Check the CPU section of the Performance tab of Task Manager
 
okay, i was just trying to look for it in the activity monitor
 
There should be a "virtualization" row in the table to the lower right
 
@BenN VTDecoderXPCService is on macOS, not on Windows
 
Ah, oops
 
5:21 PM
@heather no, that's the hardware-accelerated video decoding process for MacOS
completely unrelated to virtualization
 
okay
 
you won't find VT-x listed or not listed on macOS, and it really doesn't matter if you're trying to install ISE on Windows
I mentioned trying to find the VT-x indicator on Windows in Task Manager
 
sorry
 
but try the "switch to Windows" thing on macOS like that answer says
 
i went to task manager and it shows virtualization as enabled.
 
5:25 PM
OK, then something else is probably using hardware virtualization. Do you use Hyper-V?
 
the installation is working now so it seems like the answer you linked worked @allquixotic
thank you.
@BenN i don't think i use hyper-v, but i've no idea. but it does seem to be working now. thank you for your help!
 
Very good then!
 
@heather yeah - once task manager shows VT-x enabled you should be all squared away - be sure to upvote the answer to that question that helped you so it gets more attention - keep in mind it's only a temporary workaround and you'll have to boot from macOS into Windows each time you want to use that software
it's because the firmware of the system is saying "what's this Windows thing? I don't recognize that, so I'm going to default to not enabling VT-x" (or if you want to demonize Apple, "OMG it's our competitor, it's Windows! Noooo! Let's cripple it every way we can - quick, disable virtualization!")
 
@Burgi yeah, like err ones from before 2006
 
just remember to be kind to us old digital hands when we're in our 40s, 50s and 60s and are losing our jobs because we can't wrap our heads around quantum computing... we helped you in the here and now when digital is still the thing... you'll have to very patiently explain quantum stuff to us
;p
 
5:36 PM
@allquixotic that's... New. Or must be a mac specific thing
 
@RegularGDPR no, VT-x (and AMD equivalents) have never been able to be shared across hypervisors... you can only ever have a single hypervisor as the "root" on a system at a time; if you have multiple, it's nested virtualization (and the associated increase in overhead)
some hypervisors cooperate enough to allow one to gracefully ask the other for control, and might get that control if it asks nicely enough, but Hyper-V hogs it and won't let go, and in the past at least, Vbox and Vmware would cause BSODs on the host when one tries to load while the other is running
 
@allquixotic never had a problem running both vmware and virtualbox on windows. The former also supports nested virtualation but the latter doesn't.
 
@RegularGDPR used to be, just having both VBox and VMware on the same system would cause massive breakage, but lately you can have them both installed, but one of the two will run its VMs in software emulation mode (slow)
 
But nested only applies to running hardware virtualisation from within a VM. not running two VMs side by side under the same OS and different virtualizers
@allquixotic virtualbox doesn't even support software emulation last I knew. Vmware did, back in the 2000's.
 
I really don't think you can run two separate hypervisors on the same host at the same time - you can have both programs installed, but not two VMs, one from each hypervisor, simultaneously running
 
5:39 PM
@allquixotic I'm pretty sure I did, but I'll double check when I get home just to make sure I'm not misremembering.
 
@RegularGDPR I think it's Hyper-V that refuses to even run without VT-x; last I checked vbox still had a pretty ok (relatively speaking) software virt layer for non-VT-x machines, but maybe they removed it
 
I really don't see why you wouldn't. It's no different to AES or AVX or hwencode instructions. Any program can use them and any number at the same time.
 
@RegularGDPR you may be able to execute the instructions, but there are things like page tables and special regions of memory that they'd trample on each other unless they very carefully cooperate
 
@allquixotic I'm pretty sure I remember virtualbox refusing to run without hardware virt but again given the state of my brain these days I may be mixing things up
 
I suppose you could engineer two hypervisors (very intentionally) where both sides cooperate explicitly on a particular scheme of sharing and that'd work
if Vbox and VMware have done that, fine, but I specifically recall that it wasn't that way in the recent past
and on Linux hosts, kvm doesn't cooperate with Xen, VMware or Vbox, as the kernel modules for another virt solution error upon insmod (e.g. via modprobe) and refuse to load if another virt solution is already loaded
or in the worst case, load, ignore the warning signs and panic the host kernel
 
5:44 PM
@allquixotic last time I tried was at least five years ago so it wasn't recent. Plus everything runs on virtualised memory addresses these days anyway. Can't see VMs needing any "special" or fixed address space, the whole point of hw virt is transparent translation of virtualised address spaces.
@allquixotic I thought kvm and Xen were both built into the kernel itself
 
@RegularGDPR they are, but Xen is a type 1 and KVM is a type 2 hypervisor; in theory, KVM could be designed to automatically do nested virt on top of Xen in the dom0, since the dom0 is technically a guest to Xen's microkernel
 
Nvm kernel modules. Brain fart.
I'm really curious to try when I get home now.
I know that during that one phase of antivirus applications virtualising the whole of Windows there was some odd behaviour
(nested virtualisation incidentally has some awkward limitations that tend to make it very obvious when you're using it, intentionally or otherwise)
 
@RegularGDPR the thing that gets me is, apparently (based on a tiny amount of research) if you run Xen as your bare metal hypervisor, with a Linux dom0 on top of that, you can run normal guest OSes in KVM from your dom0 with no problems
but KVM, there, is treated as a nested virt, not using the bare metal virt
so the nested page tables feature comes into play and adds overhead by causing guest page tables to be mapped through other virtualized page tables, which eventually translate to the hardware VMM's virtual-to-physical page tables in the Xen microkernel, which then go to physical memory
so from the guest it's three layers of indirection from physical memory
so, you would expect Microsoft and VMware/VBox to have worked out something where, Hyper-V being a type 1 hypervisor, can support seamlessly nesting a Type 2 virtualization solution on top of your "host" OS
 
@allquixotic yes, but being hardware translation even then it's fairly fast on a modern cpu
(never used hyper-v, I find it revolting)
Wonder if they ever got TSX working properly
 
Xen maps to Hyper-V as:
Xen microkernel <=> Hyper-V microkernel ==> talks to hardware
Xen dom0 <=> Windows host OS ==> VM that has exclusive access to most hardware on the system, so it gets very near native performance
Xen domU or KVM on top of Xen <=> Hyper-V guest or VBox or VMware guest ==> VM that gets shared access to hardware with things like NAT and virtualized graphics provided by the dom0/host
except the VBox/VMware on top of Hyper-V appears not to work
 
7:06 PM
I'm 1 rep point from 2,600 on SU, argh
 
7:36 PM
@rahuldottech 2600 isn't important. 3k is the next privilege :)
 
7:52 PM
2600 is cool
 
8:06 PM
@RegularGDPR Why do you find Hyper-V revolting? I use it over Virtualbox or VMWare Workstation on my laptop...?
 
@RegularGDPR hence me asking about which era macbook
i just discovered Imperial Attack by John Williams sounds remarkably like Mars by Holst
 
 
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9:33 PM
fuck me
the second law of thermodynamics says that when you're looking for a Micro USB cable every cable you find is Mini, and vice versa
 
 
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10:36 PM
@CanadianLuke Because Microsoft
Also lmao. After only six years of corporate bickering, tens of thousands of pounds spent on redundant/fake planning applications, and awkward finger/blame pointing, CTIL have finally agreed with the university to be allowed to upgrade their 20 yera old transmitters.
Oh and hundreds of local residents being pissed off because of the mobile operators putting up illegal diesel generator powered "temporary" masts in their back yards, leaving them up for three or four years
Good old Great British Bureaucracy.
FWIW I totally support the mobile and broadband industries' calls for the government to grant them statutory powers to build and maintain infrastructure as utility companies, like water and electricity companies already get.
But alas I suspect the government's too distracted by Brexit to give a damn about real issues until/unless somebody actually dies from it
 
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