Root Access

Michael Frank

23:00

Yea, that's what I thought.

ADHD Cat

@MichaelFrank Can you follow the guide here please: galaxys5update.com/…

Michael Frank

Okay, I got it!

ADHD Cat

(I see no reason why CF-Auto-Root would be required, but IIRC some firmwares do have an auto-restore-default-recovery feature built-in which CF-Auto-Root disables when you install it, that might be the problem but I wasn't aware of it existing on the S5 (at least not on my G900F))

(Also if that doesn't work, just use CWM recovery instead... that has an official build for the G900I)

Be aware that installing CF-Auto-Root will reboot your phone several times over 5-10 minutes, while it may appear to be doing nothing during that time. Don't interrupt it.

Also try using the Odin version suggested in the guide (3.09), there are some peculiarities with later versions on earlier phones. Never had an issue myself, but it's documented elsewhere

Also, once you're rooted you won't actually need custom recovery to install LineageOS, you can actually do it from within the running OS. Most firmwares will flash directly through Odin but I guess Lineage couldn't be bothered building a full flash image for every device

@MichaelFrank Did you let the phone reboot into normal mode after installing TWRP the first time, before shutting down and booting into recovery btw?

Michael Frank

23:21

Well it automatically booted into normal mode after installing TWRP.

When I shut down and restarted it still had the original recovery.

When I installed the second time, as it reboot I held the keys down and that kicked it into TWRP.

ADHD Cat

@MichaelFrank Yeah, sounds like that's the auto-restore-stock-recovery "failsafe" operating then.

Michael Frank

Lineage has successfully flashed though, so we'll see what happens from here.

ADHD Cat

There's a trick to that, in either telling Odin to not auto-reboot or pulling the battery after it finishes flashing, but evidently you've got it figured out

Ramhound

superuser.com/users/53724/desbest Has submitted 4 identical answers to 4 different questions. What’s the correct action?

Michael Frank

4 identical flags probably

Ramhound

23:25

What type of flag? It’s a quality answer. It just doesn’t have to exist 4 times.

Misspoke 3 identical answers

Ben N

There's an auto-flag

That Brazilian Guy

My neighbour just baked me a cake :D

Ramhound

@BenN Ok.

ADHD Cat

If it's four decent, valid answers to four different questions I'd give them four upvotes. If the questions are pretty much identical and have no/few other good answers I'd flag the questions as duplicates

@ThatBrazilianGuy Does it contain petrol?

@MichaelFrank Yay

That Brazilian Guy

@ADHDCat Oh, so that's why it tasted a bit peculiar...

ADHD Cat

23:29

@ThatBrazilianGuy Or might be responsible for the petrol shortage/price spikes

That Brazilian Guy

@JourneymanGeek do you speak malayalam?

Ramhound

@ADHDCat Your going to vote the same answer (they are identical answers just to 3 similar questions) three times?

As I asked this he submitted another copy.

Bob

@Ramhound depends, if they're good, applicable answers and the questions are actually different? that's perfectly fine

That Brazilian Guy

Yeah. If the questions are extremely similar or actual duplicates, flag them as duplicates. Meanwhile, different but similar questions can have identical answers.

ADHD Cat

Indeed. If the answer provides a solution to the question, I'd upvote it to indicate it's validity and show it more prominently and higher up on the question page, because it's an answer that provides a solution.

Journeyman Geek

23:34

@ThatBrazilianGuy no

That Brazilian Guy

I'm listening to this radio who plays songs exclusively in this language: radio.garden/live/thiruvananthapuram/radio-city-malayalam-gold

Journeyman Geek

modern tamil and malayalam are kinda forks of very oldschool tamil so we can understand a lot of words.

ADHD Cat

I don't give a crap if a hundred other problems can be solved with the same solution, if the answer provides a solution to the question, I'd upvote it

That Brazilian Guy

I have no idea what they're singing, but the songs are quite good

Bob

that said, the actual answers on this case look nonsensical

Journeyman Geek

23:35

@Ramhound those get autoflagged and a mod will deal with it

That Brazilian Guy

> Malayalam (...) is one of 22 scheduled languages of India.

Bob

high disk I/O utilisation does not usually translate to messing with application and folder privileges

That Brazilian Guy

Twenty two languages 0.0

Journeyman Geek

That's just the official ones

ADHD Cat

@Bob Ah. Haven't actually looked at the question(s) or answers. He who shall not be named simply stated it was "It’s a quality answer.".

That Brazilian Guy

23:37

~~You guys~~ Your old folks have less than half our area and twenty two languages?

Journeyman Geek

yup

Well

That Brazilian Guy

> Brasil
País na América do Sul
População: 207,7 milhões (2016) Banco Mundial
Área: 8.516.000 km²

Journeyman Geek

The brits were less interested than the spanish in cultural conquest

That Brazilian Guy

> Índia
País na Ásia Meridional
População: 1,324 bilhão (2016) Banco Mundial
Área: 3.287.000 km²

ADHD Cat

If it's multiple identical answers that don't answer the qustion or provide a solution then I'd downvote them all. But same situation applies. It's a Q&A site, if the A provides a solution to the Q it should be upvoted so people searching for the Q can distinguish good answers.

Journeyman Geek

23:38

they just wanted to make money

That Brazilian Guy

1/3rd of the area, 6 times the population

Michael Frank

@ADHDCat Now I need to find some GApps. Thanks for your help though :)

ADHD Cat

Maybe there should be a backend system to prevent someone getting 4x the reputation if they copy and paste an identical answer to four different questions, but meh. That's not the reason for this being a Q&A site.

@MichaelFrank I think there's a link on the LineageOS wiki page for that

> Optionally, download 3rd party application packages such as Google Apps (use the arm architecture)

Journeyman Geek

There's a good reason the ex spanish and portugese colonies are linguistically and culturally often 'european' in big cities, and the british ones mostly remain their own culture

Michael Frank

Yep, just found that.

ADHD Cat

23:39

I forgot how to do inline links again, but it points here: wiki.lineageos.org/gapps.html

Michael Frank

> Important: If you reboot into LineageOS before installing Google apps, you must factory reset and then install them, otherwise expect crashes.

Oops.

ADHD Cat

Damn drugs messing with my memory

Journeyman Geek

stop taking drugs ;p

ADHD Cat

Yay for Google's policy of separating apps required for the base android OS out of the base android OS!

Ramhound

So I just flagged. To tired to do any thing else

ADHD Cat

23:43

Their reasoning for it doesn't even make sense. Faster updates? All apps can be updated OTA, via either the OEM or Google Play auto-update. Including built-in ones.

Not like it's ever going to encourage manufacturers who cba providing timely firmware updates to start providing timely firmware updates...

Speaking of, it seems several major manufacturers are now capable of supporting VoLTE across all networks by default, rather than requiring operator specific firmware on recent phones (Samsung being a major exception). Here's hoping proper VoLTE support gets built into the Android base OS soon so availability/compatibility stops being the giant clusterfuck it currently is

Somewhat annoyed by this recently because I was in a particular location where one operator had 30Mbps 4G VoLTE coverage but I was barred from using it because despite having a VoLTE capable phone and a VoLTE capable subscription, it wasn't using their proprietary firmware so I ended up with No service from that operator, and had to use my backup phone which had 0.03Mbps 2G.
I also brought the wrong backup phone, because I do have a second backup phone that has VoLTE enabled on the first oprator.

Bob

@ADHDCat I now have volte by virtue of using BRI firmware -_-

XSA doesn't have it

ADHD Cat

@Bob BRI? That doesn't sound like an Australian acronym

Michael Frank

@ADHDCat It sounds like you have quite a lot of phones...

Bob

@ADHDCat Taiwan

ADHD Cat

Recent Sony, HTC, Huawei, Nokia, Wileyfox, and Google Pixel phones, and shamefully, all iPhones support VoLTE across any network by default. Samsung insists on using their own propriety VoLTE stack which doesn't.

@Bob :-o

@MichaelFrank I've had a new phone just about every year since I was 12, and almost never sell my old/used ones.

Bob

23:51

was $300 cheaper and did dual sim

ADHD Cat

So whenever I buy a new phone it becomes my primary, and the phone it replaced becomes a backup. The rest sit in a drawer somewhere for messing around with, testing, or using as tethering hotspots or repeaters or wireless webcams or whatever.

@Bob Wait, you actually bought a new phone, instead of just cross-flashing the firmware?

Bob

for volte in au you normally need carrier firmware

@ADHDCat hm? no, I started with the new phone that I wanted to change the csc on

ADHD Cat

@Bob It was the same here, but now is only the case for Samsung.

> To use 4G Calling, you’ll need:

To be on a pay monthly plan on one of these phones bought from any retailer:
Apple iPhone 6, 6 Plus, 6S, 6S Plus, SE, 7, 7 Plus, 8, 8 Plus, X
Google Pixel, Pixel XL, Pixel 2, Pixel 2 XL
Sony Xperia XZ1, Xperia XZ1 Compact
Huawei P10, P10 lite, P10 Plus, P Smart
HTC U11, U11 Life
Blackberry Priv, Dtek 50, Dtek 60, KEYone
Nokia 3, 5, 8
EE Hawk

or one of these phones, bought directly from EE [i.e. carrier specific firmware]:
Samsung Galaxy S9, S9+, S8, S8+, S7, S7 edge, S6, S6 edge, S6 edge+, Xcover 4, A3 (2017), A5 (2017), J5 (2017), Note 8

@Bob I'm assuming iPhone is an exception even in AU?

(Do Apple even do carrier specific firmware outside the US where they build carrier specific models with carrier specific hard locks?)

Michael Frank

They did for the first few iPhones here in NZ. You could only get them on Vodafone

ADHD Cat

@MichaelFrank Was that a commercial exclusivity agreement or did they actually make operator specific firmware?

Bob

23:56

@ADHDCat idk, I was talking Samsung specifically

haven't tried other local phones in a while

ADHD Cat

In the UK the first iPhone was exclusive to O2, but was otherwise just a vanilla iPhone same as you would get on any other network after the exclusivity agreement ended

Michael Frank

@ADHDCat I believe they only worked on Vodafone, maybe?

ADHD Cat

@MichaelFrank SIM locks are common, it could have been that?

@Bob You have a fairly recent high-end Sony Xperia right?

Michael Frank

Possibly.

Bob

@ADHDCat overseas model yea

I never bothered to check if the firmware matched local ones

ADHD Cat

23:59

It still beggars belief that US operators tried to incorporate SIM locks into the eSIM standard, specifically designed to allow flexibility of SIM changes -_-

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