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@djsmiley2k It's fun.
Also, I've found some jumps are impossible if you only reset to the last checkpoint.
 
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01:20
Are you sure you are really Derek? — Michael Frank 10 secs ago
 
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03:03
I think that, if Santa was caught, breaking and entering would be higher up on the list of things he was arrested for than violating GDPR rules. — Lio Elbammalf Jun 4 at 17:37
I think arresting santa and convincting him would put you on the naughty list for sure, along with people who abuse sudo
Ave
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03:26
@JourneymanGeek idk if it's due to server, though
I usually wear headphones on one earbecause people don't know how to knock and just dive in, and I'd rather hear them dive in
@Ave erm... that doesn't make it any better
ah
03:43
still
hearing loss is bad ;(
04:23
My wife left an On Demand TV site open overnight. :|
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04:51
lol
that was a fun one
I was hoping to get it over 10k but it refreshed :(
@MichaelFrank you should leave it on for the week
 
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05:55
> Is there an e-book version that doesn't look like someone took a 10-times-Xeroxed copy to an OCR scanner that was someone's freshman computer science project?
06:09
Lol
06:19
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Q: Windows 7 taking almost 50 GB of space on fresh installation

sarrthak sethMy Windows 7 is taking space of 48 GB on my SSD on fresh installation. This makes my system slow. What shall I do to fix this?

Get a better computer is probably not a good answer... but really, what else is there?
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07:20
> The company began by making flowerpots out of an industrial byproduct plastic called Molex. Later they made connectors for General Electric and other appliance manufacturers out of the same plastic.
lol what
Guise, how can the sysadmins stop our machines rebooting for updates?
because they keep telling us they 'think' they've done it, and then it doesn't work
08:06
morning
turn the machine off at night
it can't reboot if it is off
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08:33
@djsmiley2k set the automatic updates group policy option to manual install only
Can I 'view' if that's set on my machine?
I presume I cna, but I've never touched gp
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though once you go and click the check for/install updates button that counts as accepting the install
and the timer starts
alternatively they can control updates properly with WSUS but that's more involved
well we have WSUS
but.... two of my collegues machines keep prompting, or some times rebooting for updates
looking at rsop now
hmmmm my computer config is showing an error :D
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08:48
I just tripped over a dead bird
wtf
big day for my boys in the sports ball
morroco v iran and Uruguay v egypt
Soooooooo in rsop, where would I see anything about windows update?
as I've looked around and can't find anything
our new dev's machine is locked up doing windows updates
lul.
@Burgi needs to stay on as we remote into them at all hours for customer support
Anyone suggest a WiFi tool that'd explain wtf my phone is doing when moving between AP's?
 
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11:33
@ADHDCat BRI S9+ in hand ... and now the CSC hackery commences
goddammit
I need to BRI => XSA
but they're in the OXM multi-CSC so I can't just flash an XSA CSC on...
If I root, I can manually change it but that breaks Knox/Samsung Pay soooo. last resord.
Looks like inserting a TEL SIM card doesn't work as promised either...
last idea is to use a combination ROM (engineering ROM?), hopefully that works
/me ponders what this craziness is
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11:59
> Someone just used your password to try to sign in to your account. Google blocked them, but you should check what happened.
FFS IT WAS ME NOW LEMME IN
4
o_O
Did it not try and do 2factor auth or anything?
12:27
I had NIGHTMEAR D:
that I didn't get the job. But I did
Bob
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12:53
@djsmiley2k I don't 2FA
13:24
Fuck off, scammers.
@Bob ah ok
(profanity is out of character for me but this is driving me nuts)
I almost want to call the cops.
wait... didn't we have this exact conversation 1 week ago?
13:59
i feel you've complained about robocallers recently and linked the same screenshot
14:18
Deja vu?
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🎶I've just been in this place before🎶
I love having apps run in split-screen on Android.
hmmm...
> People receiving these calls should report them to the Federal Trade Commission.
14:56
I'm planning on getting a xiaomi 6a for a friend, any thoughts?
@Hakase I've been generally been super happy with them on the low end
Batteries do go bloaty after 4 or so years
well, these are super low end and super low price especially 6a
and it has a very wide screen with small bezels and no stupid notch
and xiomi's really good value for money there
(also their headphones rock)
15:01
but I have to ask if there's a sneaky trick somewhere in there
I just can't believe it can be that good for so cheap
@Hakase er... probably mediatek chips rather than qualcomm...
and basically low margins
comments on phone review sites and such all whine about "performance down the drain with shitty cheap cpu" and "games are gonna suck" but I don't play games and nobody seemed to mention the price which is ridiculous for such a great design imo
hm
@Hakase if you're expecting flagship performance for low prices... ;p
I have no idea what flagship means honestly
it's a phone
all phones have to make calls, send messages and open maps
15:04
that's it
top of the line processor, really nice screen....
my previous 3 phones were not smart
I only got this one coz I had to travel the city and using a paper map was getting old
if I was buying a phone now I'd get this one coz it'd be 2 times cheaper
also android 8.1
but I can't just ignore how suspiciously good this deal is
so I'm asking around for potential hidden bullshit
Ya. Mediatek Processor, 'enough' ram rather than ludicrious amounts, iphone clone UI
PERSONALLY I'd seriously consider reflashing it but I don't like MIUI
But ya, they're good phones for the price
and lol
I think my granma has one
15:25
bye
15:37
16:03
@Bob Is it dual SIM or single?
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@ADHDCat Dual.
CSC hackery failed :\
@Bob Honestly, rooting is the first thing I do on any phone. Samsung Pay - meh, Android Pay used to work but really wasn't that useful anyway. Certainly never a crucial feature, and my bank can issue a NFC sticker to stick to the back of your phone to do the same thing :-P
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I got into the engineering ROM but the code to bring up the CSC menu didn't do anything :\
@ADHDCat I was trying to keep this one unrooted :P
Mind you more and more apps are refusing to work on my phone, including one that displays my loyalty card barcodes, and the Tesco mobile app.
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Slowly coming to reconsider that decision :\
Also root for S9 isn't well established yet
it's still a bit hackier than I'd like
especially since chainfire left
16:05
@Bob To be fair, unless you're like me who uses their phone as an engineering device for network research and analysis, you probably shouldn't need to root it.
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@ADHDCat yea, the only thing I'd lose, CSC aside, is titanium backup
Also, I would personally find I practically never need to root Sony phones in able to do most things I need, as opposed to Samsung phones where rooting is pretty much a basic requisite of me not losing my sanity in using it
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so I'd either need to stay on BRI or root to get XSA
dammit.
@Bob There are apparently alternative backup options, including recovery backups, Helium backup (never actually tested if it works as claimed) or the manufacturer's own desktop-based and cloud backups
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@ADHDCat I don't think any of those include app data
16:07
AFAIK TWRP never fixed their handling of Samsung's FDE but meh. Again, works on non-Samsung devices so rooting is a Samsung-only requirement
@Bob Those all include app data, that's why I mentioned them.
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@ADHDCat I tried with both Google and Samsung's backup services. Neither included app data.
Recently, too.
(I discovered by accident, since I never intended to use it, that Samsung's cloud backup does include app data, but isn't entirely consistent)
Bob
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(Mum's phone with Google, work tablets with Samsung)
It's far more consistent than Google's though, which even has a "Include app data" button which is a complete lie
Google's backup only covers something like, 10% of apps' data, and maybe 60% of the system data (settings, wallpapers, etc.) Samsung's covers about 80% of apps' data, and >99% of the system data.
Helium Backup claims to backup app data, but requires an ADB connection. I've not tried restoring.
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@ADHDCat It's also last updated 2016, reportedly has issues as of the S8, and "supported" by ClockworkMod who no longer exists...
Otherwise it looks great :P
16:12
@Bob That's about when I last used it too >_>
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I mean, I don't mind ADB
I just need something that works :P
probably have like 15 copies of ADB lying around anyway
I was pleasantly surprised by the completeness of the Samsung cloud backup though. It only missed like, one or two things, the only one I recall being my own, manually installed SSL certificate.
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I might give it a shot
Even my audio customizations, ear calibrations, and equalizer settings were resotred
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I think I used Easy Transfer on the work tablets
it totally failed to copy the kiosk browser settings so I then had to go and manually update all of them
blech
this was ... a month ago?
16:13
But again now I just root. The ability to manually force network band selection is becoming more and more important by the day.
@Bob Ah, never used easy transfer. Only backup and restore on the same device.
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@ADHDCat they were identical tablets
it was a discontinued model too
like, I had to find and go to one specific shop to buy their last one in stock with a damaged box
All the national networks now have a total congestion blackspot in the city centre on at least one band.
Vodafone doesn't work on LTE B20, and needs to be forced onto WCDMA B1 (works in 90% of the blackspot) or B9 (works in 100% of the blackspot, but not in an area slightly outside of it). EE doesn't work on LTE B3, and needs to be forced onto B7, but there's a 50m blackspot between the two B7 enabled masts, where you have to force it to B3 again.
Since I mostly play Ingress, a location based game on the bus, through the public-transport-only city centre, the city centre congestive collapse means you can't interact with any in-game portals over most of the city centre unless you manually force alternate band selection.
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I hate how Samsung changes their notes/memo/whatever app every other generation
I mean it's a workaround, in that it's only necessary because of the networks' abysmal capacity and load balancing and not a fault with the phone, but nonetheless it's crucial to me either way.
@Bob Nah, it's ever major Android version. It's usually backported to previous generation phones though.
I mean for example, Vodafone: 4G B20: 0.01Mbps. 4G B7: Disabled due to business disagreements. 3G B1: 30Mbps. 3G B9 15Mbps (no-DC). So about 80% of their spectrum is either unused, or operational but at less than 5% load because everyone is on 4G and the congestion is too bad for the network to even redirect handsets onto the completely unused 3G bands.
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ok
16:23
It's simply all retarded beyond comprehension.
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let's see if Smart Switch works properly from S7E to S9+
I mean that should be literally the most common use-case
Most people are just used to their phone "not working properly because network busy" when in the city centre, and are astonished when I show them my 30+ Mbps speeds standing next to them on the same network because I press this special button that requires root.
Bear in mind before the S3, root wasn't required for these features...
@Bob Or S8, but yeah, close enough
Are you transferring everything over to use the S9+ as your main phone and ditching the S7E then?
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@ADHDCat The S7 was far more popular than S8, and also nearing EOL in time for a S9 upgrade
so S7 => S9 is more likely than S8 => S9
@ADHDCat yea. see: clumsy week + 2 drops = cracked back glass and damaged AMOLED
@Bob Indeed, they were offering a £250 rebate for handing in a S7 when the S9 was released
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I could repair it (or get it repaired) but ... yea
16:25
@Bob Ah, was on drugs so vaguely remember that but not in detail.
(This is why I have a "family" plan insuring all my electronic devices)
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hm
it's going to pick up ... contacts, messages, memo (:O), call log, apps and app data ... 74 apps and 2.5 GB of data?
Good luck! As I say, if it's anything like the device to self backup, you may be surprised by how well it works.
Then again I wouldn't want to get your hopes raised unnecessarily
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hmmmmm
I should've charged the other phone before starting the transfer
whoops
@ADHDCat Thanks.
TBH the single most important thing is ... my Firefox tabs! :D
(Messages and call log are pretty important too. I guess.)
@Bob Can that not sync itself? Chrome can (sorta)
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> Get ready to update your fingerprint. Be careful not to smudge the camera lens.
really?
If you're gonna put the scanner right under the lens ...
@ADHDCat I do have FF sync, so I can at least see the tabs, but they won't all open automatically
16:36
@Bob Aaaaaand this is why I'm waiting for the Note 9 or S10, hoping they've fixed that issue. Heck I was hoping for the S9 to fix it, but meh. At least now one other manufacturer has it actually implemented.
@Bob Same for chrome, I'd just have to click "Open all tabs" from "Other devices"
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@ADHDCat Oh. I don't think that option exists.
Also it'd probably crash.
I can't open 500 tabs all at once.
@ADHDCat They did move it to a nicer spot than on the S8.
@Bob Pah
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Also I really like how I just added them.
It's now swipe your finger over to add.
3 swipes is so much faster and better than turning your finger every which way and pressing it 40 times
@Bob Interesting. The S5 had swipe, but mostly because it had a swipe-only capable sensor.
I have to keep re-adding my thumbprint because I keep burning myself :-/
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@ADHDCat Oh, it's swipe to add, but press to read.
Judging by the vibrations the swipe really just lets it scan like 8 spots per swipe.
16:40
@Bob Yeah I know. Obviously the sensor is capable of real-time readout both ways, which is good
I'm tempted to try it, I have like 300 tabs open on VD, but I already have >100 on this phone already and I don't wanna mess things up. Maybe I'll try it on my second phone, that only has like 5 tabs open.
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> When you dismiss all notifications from an app, the badge shown on the adp icon will also disappear.
Gee, thanks.
That really needed a notification to tell me.
Then again I'm scared to touch my dad's S7E cause he's got like 50 notifications and he never dismisses any.
Urgh retarded Intel Bluetooth again
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The list scrolls for so long.
@Bob Sometimes my phone ends up like that, if I end up high for several days in a row...
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holy shit that's amazing
(I just got a prompt to use dual messenger to access two telegram accounts)
16:44
@Bob yeah, it's great. I'm hoping there's a hack that'll extend that to all apps.
Right now it's only a few whitelisted messaging apps I believe, much like the dual-screen feature
Obviously I've installed a hack to allow all apps to dual screen and pop out, on the basis I assume the risk of a few cases of crashy app behaviour myself because I don't need Samsung certifying only a dozen or so apps that are "compatible"
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@ADHDCat S9+ on a QC2.0 charger draws 1.6A @ 9V screen off, 1.0-1.1A @ 5V screen on
I suppose that's better than before
@Bob that reminds me though. Most other manufacturers implement the Android multi account feature on their phones. Samsung disables it, but like everything else it can be re-enable with a mod
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wait no S7 also does 1-1.2A @ 5V screen on
@Bob not really, that's identical to my S7
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@ADHDCat yea I thought 500mA for some reason
16:47
(with recent firmware update). The original firmware did 9v 0.6A screen on.
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@ADHDCat I've been able to put any app I want in dual-scren, with a warning it might not work
fuck.
it didn't transfer nova launcher data
that's not a good start
good thing nova has its own backups
Basically the original S7 firmware limited input power to 6W, regardless of input voltage with the screen on. It also disabled the limit when the battery was below 5%. Updated firmware switched off both the fast-charge voltages (reverting to 5v with screen on) AND the <5% fast charge exception.
@Bob was gonna say. Nova has pretty decent built in import/export anyway.
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failed to transfer firefox data too
fuck's sake
Oh yeah, that reminds me of the other thing Samsung backup didn't restore, my Shortcut Master shortcuts list. But that has its own import/export too.
@Bob :-(
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Messenger is not logged in
serously. what DID it transfer?
keepass has nothing
yea this is just as useless as when I used it on those tablets
16:52
Switch to Chrome! 🙃... Says the guy who is utterly fed up with chrome and only hasn't switched back to Firefox because of procrastination and his 500+ chrome tabs
@Bob well shit.
Maybe backup one phone to Samsung cloud and try restore it to the second?
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I literally cannot find a single app that has its data
well Messages has but that's just SMS
That's how I used it on identical model phones after an insurance replacement when one caught fire and exploded.
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hm
dammit need to create an account
Google considers app data "expendable"/"perishable" as an official policy.
Basically /tmp
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@ADHDCat yea, no. !!no
16:55
One thing I do remember is the cloud backup/restore definitely did restore my Nova launcher data (settings, layouts, home screen icons, etc.)
Even restored it as my default launcher on first startup
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> Account already exists
what.
@Bob Google policy.... :-|
@Bob Hi Bob, I believe we've met before! 😂😂😂
All Samsung services use a SSO, whether for mobile management, support forums, developer tools, competitions, Samsung store, etc.
Well strictly speaking, single account, not single sign on.
I think all these drugs are messing with the dopaminergic wiring in my brain
Then again Microsoft thinks all open app data is expendable too, with their forced auto-restart policies.
Because y'know, all applications have been updated to auto-save state in the background in case of unplanned shutdowns.
lol yah
but google's cloud restoring works at least.
17:11
It just doesn't restore anything of meaningful value -_-
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@ADHDCat yea I think the restore is going better
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17:27
@ADHDCat nope
how'd you do it?
shrug
18:14
lol. what. you can't even fix a single server like 2 weeks after it goes down
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18:40
@ADHDCat I just spent an hour signing in to random accounts -_-
19:02
@Bob Random?
19:17
lol
 
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Were they at least your random accounts?

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