@djsmiley2k In other words, once again demonstrating how broken BGP is...

> Have you noticed that when landing at an airport there are several people holding signs with names of companies or people? This feature is widely used by those who need to pick up someone at an airport they do not know or are unable to recognize. BGP ads work in a similar fashion: standalone systems pick up placards saying the IP addresses they own or have contracted as a link provider or are able to send data to them. And the other autonomous systems passing through the gate read these cards and send the traffic to the autonomous system that declares itself responsible for that IP number.

> Therefore, if a provider from the interior of Brazil declares himself responsible for delivering traffic from NASA, the US space agency, this message will not necessarily be refused and other autonomous systems of the Internet will deliver traffic destined to NASA servers to that provider in Brazil.

> To this type of security incident we give the name of BGP Hijack (in Portuguese, abduction of BGP) and that was what happened today with CloudFlare.

source (in Brazilian Spanish) medium.com/@ayubio/…

Best explanation of the fact I could find was from some Brazilian guy on Medium

(actually, one of the very few mentions, even in Google News)

@ThatBrazilianGuy At least at the airport if you're an important person you can check for ID

I wonder if no one knows such shit happens. Or if no one cares.

Furthermore picking up the wrong guy doesn't have a knock on effect on every other guy going to/from the airport. Or the world

Parts of the very technological and informational infrastructure that ties the world together is still tied up with the equivalent of shoestrings.

The fact it doesn't fall apart every day is what should be surprising

Who wants cake?

On the other hand, since there's no central control, power grabs are impossible.

Cake cake cake

Should I eat it all coz it's so yummy and fluffly and moist

Or should I save for later and not become a very round ball

Or should I eat just half so my wife won't get mad

So many choices

A cake conumdrum

I'll eat some cake while I think

Why those red dots?

@RogUE That's because you're a cat.

That, or the snipers are after you

RUN!!!!

Oh no, two snipers....

@RogUE it means there's something in that review queue

@JourneymanGeek for review?

Yup

@JourneymanGeek But that used to be a grey dot(the one besides Late Answers), and the one at the top-left wouldn't be there.

Red means one hit a threshold on the queue

@JourneymanGeek What threshold?

I don't remember the exact value

5 dollars.

Hey @JourneymanGeek, totally random question:

What's your first language?

You have Indian heritage right? Are your parents or grandparents originally from India?

Did you grow up speaking English in Singapore? Or speaking an Indian language in India? Or speaking multiple languages in Singapore?

Er. Fluent in both spoken, more literate in English than Tamil.

Parents migrated from India and Ceylon/jaffna(via India)

Tamil till I was 3ish. English was heavily off cartoons. Parents felt it was important to have a strong basis in Tamil. Grew up and have spent most of my life in SG.

It sounds so foreign (no pun intended) to think of a place with multiple languages (like India) and to a lesser extent to dealing with multi language environments and households

Brazil is a huge country with only one official language

And not only officially but in a de facto way

Sure, there are huge foreign communities in some cities. São Paulo has the biggest Japanese population outside Japan, IIRC. And int the south there are big German communities. But these are niches.

Every newspaper, every book in bookstores, every magazine, every conversation in the streets or offices is in Portuguese

Statistically speaking

@JourneymanGeek If I ever have a kid in another country I'll make sure that they speak proper Portuguese too

@ThatBrazilianGuy knowing where you're from is important.

and singapore is very big on multilingualism, as long as it isn't chinese dialects ;)

On the other hand it's important to know one's son / daughter isn't an extension of yourself. I wouldn't force my kid to learn a language they didn't want. But I'd be a bit sad.

The surrounding region speaks languages with similar derivatives and are mostly ethnically fairly similar to each other so it helped with our national identity

@ThatBrazilianGuy well, we still speak tamil at home

and the big issue we have is... we speak better, though old fashioned tamil than people back in tamil nadu

In the occasions I entertain the thought of moving out of the country, I sometimes think of how much I would miss my culture and how I'd be a stranger in a much broader sense. Here I sometimes can feel isolated without many friends, but in other places I'd be isolated because people would behave in totally different ways.

Well, there's cultures that mostly survived leaving for years or even generations.

My folks have been on a big of a diaspora - with various levels of clinging to our cultures

but we're never strangers - people are mostly the same everywhere

There are cyclic dyasporas inside Brazil. Migrations to big cities. It's a bit sad if you think about it.

@ThatBrazilianGuy Most people know either Hindi or English, so it's usually pretty easy to communicate, regardless of what they speak locally

And if they don't, someone nearby is bound to, and they'll help get whatever you have to say through

@rahuldottech heh, hindi as a common language is vaguely controversial

@JourneymanGeek Hindi in North India. English in South.

ah, that works

heh, @ThatBrazilianGuy more or less though, indian society is to various extent divided by linguistic (In fact many of the state divisions are by language initially, though there's been a few political lines drawn more recently. The brits basically ... "eh, ok, this is under madras, this is under bombay") and other things.

I'm from a caste that is considered to be "higher" (But in this modern day - division of careers and labour by who you were born to is silly) - and a lot of folk feel that the current political system, especially in the south, discriminates against our folk, and there's a pretty big modern diaspora elsewhere.

How hard we cling to our "bramin" identity varies - by tradition, we should never cross the sea (but we do?) but there's folks ranging from basically following the old ways to the letter to semi modern folks like us who just follow the 'critical' and 'really important stuff' like once a year, to folks who went full western

My accent, for example is pretty identifiable if you're not in india since most real bramin folk who left before sound like me. And movies have this horrible horrible accent that is so fake

for some reason people in india get confused

cc @Zanna (cause she's interested in this sorta thing ;p)

Well, much like in the US (or at least what I know from it in the movies), Brazil is much more homogeneous in terms of culture and language

Of course there are differences in culture and accents between regions and states

And big cities like Rio and São Paulo have "standard accents"

And [[[[[

for extra fun, I kinda intentionally mix in a few oddities of coimbature tamil on purpose ;)

And I fat fingered my kayboard

Its like someone speaking RP with random scottish things.

I'ts 2:40 AM I should probably go to sleep.

In fact I am. Good bight!

@ThatBrazilianGuy Don't let the bed bugs bite.

@Bob hackaday.com/2018/06/02/…

@JourneymanGeek at the moment I'm preserving it with a vacuum sealer and lots of silica gel :P

ya ;p

I was around ;p

(I'm sure I use RSS feeds the same way you use tabs sooooooo, figured it was worth linking here so in future itd findable that you can dry filament in a dehumidifier, especially if future me buys a 3d printer)

@JourneymanGeek the traditional way is a 60W light bulb in a garbage bin :P

eehhh . sounds almost like a giant ez bake

heh

One of the comments on a new EEVblog video...

> Dan Smith - not at all, Australia has the strictest wiring rules in the world. The wiring in that ceiling space is a dogs breakfast and indeed does not meet the AS3000 wiring rules. A bit more catenery wire and some zip ties would sort it, but obviously the Sparkies who work in this building don't give a shit - a whole different problem.

... sparkies?

also youtube.com/watch?v=AoS06cktgzQ looks better than my last workplace ;)

@JourneymanGeek electricians

electrician is too long, so... sparkies :D

ya, its just a very odd phrase.

For a country that says jammy dodgers

I mean bobby dazzler

@allquixotic @bwDraco That Cortex-A76 was apparently compared against a i5-7300U. Which is configurable from 7.5 W to 25 W TDP. I wonder what it was set to for their tests.

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2018/06/…

cnet.com/news/…

> The Cortex-A76 has about the performance of today's Intel Core i5-7300, Filippo said.

I wonder if they're talking whole-CPU (in which case it's probably 4 ARM cores vs 2 x86 cores + HT) or core vs core...

At the lower TDP that Skylake-U is probably comparable to Skylake-Y. At the higher TDP it's no competition.

@JourneymanGeek <3

So Cortex-A76 could be anywhere from below Skylake-Y (assuming 7.5 W TDP & 4 cores vs 2 cores) to approx equal to better than Skylake-Y (assuming core-for-core comparison with Skylake-U on higher TDP)

PPW is probably better. Maybe.

@JourneymanGeek the Scottish are known for being very patriotic...

@Zanna Coimbature tamil is... kinda odd and soft

and very polite

Its more "excuse me little miss" than "OI YOU SCAMP! GET OVER HERE!"

hahaha that sounds nice

My mom's vaguely from around there

I just realised I have no idea what tamil sounds like

errrr

@Bob I'm The human is speaking a mix of english and tamil here youtube.com/watch?v=vZ8QeXC6N20

"keezai poohlam" = let go down(stairs) aka walkies ;p

haha the dog is not inspired

XD

no, not at all

and I sound a lot more soft spoken than I sound to myself ._.

:)

sounds nice

I'm thinking at the nominal TDP (15W), which is representative of what would happen if it's used in a Windows 10 system with x86 emulation.

If devs could build native Win32 desktop apps for ARM, that would be ideal.

I understand Microsoft wants to move off legacy APIs but a lot of stuff still relies on the desktop.

@bwDraco I thinK VLC did that

engadget.com/2018/06/01/vlc-one-of-first-arm64-windows-apps

People's line of thinking is, "we live in a mobile world and x86 is not well suited for mobile". But what's stopping Intel or AMD from implementing ultra-low-power features that enable stuff like continuous Internet connectivity with 48h+ standby battery life? I don't think this is an architectural limitation...

That's the big allure with Arm chips, but I see no technical reason why this isn't possible with appropriately-designed x86 processors.

I mean, Intel did this before with Atom SoCs, right?

It's sad Intel decided to abandon this path.

Why can't x86 processors deliver this minimal level of performance needed to support constant connectivity while delivering battery life? Is x86 intrinsically bad when scaled down to <2W power envelopes?

I just don't get it. Is decoding x86 instructions that expensive?

Is Arm or other RISC architecture the only way this can be accomplished? Why can't someone make an x86 SoC that can do the same? Wasn't this what the Atom chips were designed for?

!!/extraheaddesk

erm

different design requirements I assume

I think the big trick here is big/little

which x86 does not to

Imagine something like a pair of, I donno, those old quarks

Patents?

I don't get it. Some form of big.LITTLE-style HMP ought to be possible with x86. But why not? AMD likes doing heterogeneous tech, so what's stopping them from putting differently-optimized cores and connecting them with the Infinity Fabric?

This whole push towards Arm machines is baffling.

I donno

There might be other approaches?

hmm

Super quick, simple/stupid question - I need to run node.js for a thing. Is there any drawback to running a newer version (10) over an older one (8)?

IDK, but seems like on AU everyone is always trying to get the latest one. Never seen anyone trying to downgrade, recommending not using the newest version, or remaining content with the old version in repositories when you can use the shiny new one instead

ah lol

Minimum requirements is v4 ;)

and at least there's no longer 3 different distros of it

@JourneymanGeek politeness is so amusingly lost in translation. My brother lives in Japan so we enjoy lots of this

@Zanna ... you cannot miss it in the cbe accent.

And it never sounds sarcastic.

Lovely folks

:)

sweet

Not spam but I think there's some backstory behind the edit

@JourneymanGeek reddit.com/r/functionalprint/comments/8mn80s/…

@Bob hah, looks like the ikea stuff

what I use is the reel

@FleetCommand It's a mess. I've closed it.

> a control variable in this experiment will be the weather

o.O

how you gonna control that? in the UK?

.... not sure you can control that...

@Zanna dosen't it always rain?

marking an exam

ah! Well that's easy?

If you mark it wrong, all you need to worry about is an angry weather controlling student

@JourneymanGeek not when you bring an umbrella, or when there is a drought and the crops are gonna die

@Zanna the UK has drought? 0_0

haha good point... in fact I don't even need to worry about that because it's an anonymised

I'll grant the former.

But that would mean said student would do the experiment outdoors with an umbrella

@JourneymanGeek occasionally

@JourneymanGeek I think you've solved the problem there!

I'm smarter than the average bear?

@Zanna What's wrong with performing the experiment in a climate controlled room?

Weather Simulation Chamber | ESPEC CORP.

@JourneymanGeek haha definitely

These Airport Pods Simulate The Weather At Your Destination | Tech Times

@Zanna Extreme weather testing military aircraft: inside the world’s largest climatic laboratory - Airforce Technology :)

they're only testing the resistance of an LDR though...

@DavidPostill the frozen plane looks like something in an SF movie

@Zanna heh. FWIW, I think the app I was trying to install dosen't work in nodejs 10.....

I need a few more moving parts in place to be sure but I think I've had enough for today

> It's a software issue because when I take a screenshot there's nothing wrong

I... what?

Some people are clueless :/

@JourneymanGeek that's a definite drawback :/

@Bob try blinking repeatedly and see if it clears up

@Zanna Yeah, luser clearly has a white line inscribed on his retina :)

He looked at the laser

Also, ehhh

not everyone spent their mispent (time of life) around computers

What's obvious to us may be less so to muggles, even if they think they know ;)

Hmmm

seen 3 planes circling back round, whichy means they must be having some issues at BHX I guess

Quiet on ye ol' interwebs...

It's currently 3:24am... My daughter has woken up every 20 minutes since 1am. :|

@MichaelFrank stop hitting the snooze button

heh

@bertieb ladbible.com/news/…

Like, wth?

> ladbible

WIll click anyway :P

Lol

But yeah

I'm sure there was another machete attack within the last year

In Glasgow?

Plus the gang shooting have been more frequent (it seems)

Err, possibly

Lemme check

Stuff been happening here too :/

Vaguely remember commenting on something on Reddit (which I rarely do)

Oh yeah!

It was a disemboweling

... I probably shouldn't seem to pleased to remember that

2 ticks while I dig up the URL

Well someone in Cov was shot in the neck seemingly randomly

reddit.com/r/glasgow/comments/78x4xu/…

> Music student in Drumchapel 'disemboweled' in attack

Well done, Glasgow! ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Lol

:/

@JourneymanGeek they're in that weird spot of knowing to try a screenshot but not knowing how to interpret it

@MichaelFrank wind? she pooped?

or teeth?

Or is she 23?

oh hey, the weird scrolly black boxes in chrome thing is gone.

shit

Eep

@bertieb Wonder what ever came of that

I think he got his bowels back, thankfully

More wondering whether they found the attacker or established a motive

Even for Glasgow, "I'm going to go into a random stranger's home and disembowel him" seems a bit extreme.

Ah we've all been there...

My guess would be something drugs related

Because it's always something drugs-related

@bertieb I really haven't.

Come through and spend some time in Glasgow :P

(I'm going to stop with this joke because it's in quite poor taste now that I think of it)

@bertieb Oh I've done time spent time in Glasgow... last time I was there I "burnt out" a portal in an AR game and then the building I was standing outside caught fire.