Root Access

djsmiley2k

20:07

while 66Gb torrent is downloading...

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k u n00b you directly linked the image from speedtest servers

djsmiley2k

yes

so wut?

they even give you a link to do exactly that.

Michael Frank

Yea, I'd link the image directly.

djsmiley2k

See^

That REDACTED Guy

@djsmiley2k Why is Sherlock using drugs?

@djsmiley2k That's a lot of Linux ISOs.

djsmiley2k

20:15

Holmes?

That REDACTED Guy

@djsmiley2k Yeah, what'shisname Bumblebitch Cabbagepatch

He looks quite stoned in that picture

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k but what if someone is looking at the transcript 10 years from now and speedtest decided to not host all the old images -_-

djsmiley2k

Errrr, what picture? XD

That REDACTED Guy

In 10 years imgur might be offline and reddit abandoned

LINK ROT IS INEVITABLE. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

Michael Frank

In 10 years, nobody will care about that Speedtest result.

rahuldottech

20:23

This is apparently even better (?) to get old features back in Google Image Search: github.com/bijij/ViewImage

That REDACTED Guy

Hey @djsmiley2k I made a gift for your kids:

3 mins ago, by That REDACTED Guy

rahuldottech

@MichaelFrank -_-

Yus they will

They'd wonder what speeds we were complaining about

That REDACTED Guy

@MichaelFrank What if they live in shithole countries like Brazil?

Michael Frank

shrug Chat is chat, like a conversation around a table. If it gets recorded, great. If people forget what is said, well it was never meant to be remembered.

rahuldottech

Hello @havoc!

Havoc Lamperouge

20:27

XP :shy:

That REDACTED Guy

Hello

rahuldottech

@HavocLamperouge What brings you here to(day|night)?

Havoc Lamperouge

Just got the chat privileges and came check it out

Super users reminded me of TRON 2.0 the game by Buena Vista

so I joined

rahuldottech

@HavocLamperouge Nice!

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge Tread carefully, we're all crazy here. But we're all nice and we don't bite (usually).

rahuldottech

20:29

@HavocLamperouge It's basically for computer geeks

Havoc Lamperouge

ic

The term geek is still in dispute where I live

People haven't come to terms with its meaning

same as with nerd

rahuldottech

@HavocLamperouge :o

Havoc Lamperouge

so I do tread lightly

rahuldottech

What are the various meanings?

Havoc Lamperouge

@rahuldottech yes and each generation XYZ etc disputes them.

I mean

3rd world problems

whatever

rahuldottech

20:31

I would've thought Urban Dictionary would settle all differences immediately /s

@HavocLamperouge Ehhhhhh

Basically means "enthusiast"?

Havoc Lamperouge

Man... Problem is we got national instances mimicking urban dictionary AND my people are highly ILLITERATE so pop culture gets twisted, and lots of subfactions emerge, each with their own historically-inaccurate appropriation of the cultures where the english language is native to.

so we got national versions of urbandic sowing discord

Besides, this is the land where memes are king

so each faction has its own meme-army

and dissent is pervasive in every rank

metaphorically speaking

That REDACTED Guy

Uh... Someone seems to be taking online communities a little bit more seriously than the usual even for this chatroom.

Havoc Lamperouge

Oh no, forgive me for misleading. I don't really care. That summarization was merely academic.

Thats a cute Voxel art for Mario Bros btw

in the lifetime of computing, how many devices has windows been installed on?
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=in+the+lifetime+of+computing,+how+many+devices+has+windows+been+installed+on%3F

Wolfram can't process that input

That REDACTED Guy

@rahuldottech It can also mean "someone who study too much and does nothing but study and gets high marks and is totally socially inept"

rahuldottech

@ThatREDACTEDGuy that's more "nerd' than "geek"

Havoc Lamperouge

20:38

haha even here there's dissent.

That REDACTED Guy

Well, there's not a "here", the regulars are from all over the world.

So expecting a culturally linguistic consensus is complicated.

Havoc Lamperouge

In my school a nerd was a person who didn't pay attention to class AND didn't study a lot and still got high grades, no matter how socially apt or inept they were. A CDF was a person who studied to the detriment of his social life and got high grades through effort. Socially inept people were just labelled weird. You guys have used SE for long?

rahuldottech

@HavocLamperouge I'm 16, have used since I was 12 or 13

That REDACTED Guy

You can check on a user's profile the day they joined.

Havoc Lamperouge

I see.

So redacted, how about the prices of gadgets in Brazil?

rahuldottech

20:44

@HavocLamperouge Not again...

Havoc Lamperouge

Can you give me a complaint?

hahaha

I read your profile

rahuldottech

TL;DR: the're crappy

Havoc Lamperouge

the gadgets or the prices?

That REDACTED Guy

Of course, some people (ahem!) have literally hundreds of linked accounts, which would make checking it a bit effortful (does such word exists?).

@HavocLamperouge Give you a complaint? Well, ok, you asked! @HavocLamperouge sucks!

Havoc Lamperouge

@That

LOL

but ok

The word effortful does not belong in the Longman Dictionary of contemporary english but it follows correct english ortograph paradigms

ortography*

Its cos the Dollar to Royal ratio is bad and since the import channels are all cornered, big retailers like Kabum! have huge stocks and can easily manipulate prices.

Royal lol... I mean Real

DavidPostill

20:49

@HavocLamperouge Where are you from?

Havoc Lamperouge

Also, people in Brazil are more willing to pay high prices for gadgets than any other people in the planet

That REDACTED Guy

When your prices are so big they got their own Wikipedia page:

Brazil cost

Brazil cost (Portuguese: Custo Brasil [ˈkustu bɾɐˈziw]) refers to the increased operational costs associated with doing business in Brazil, making Brazilian goods and services more expensive compared to other countries. There are several factors that contribute to the extra cost, including: High levels of public deficits; The economy divided into cartels; Inefficiency of public services; Maintenance of high real interest rates; Exaggerated net interest spread of financial institutions (among the highest in the world); Excessive bureaucracy for importing and exporting, creating difficulties for...

Havoc Lamperouge

Brazil cost does not necessarily apply to all segments of the gadgets industry

That REDACTED Guy

@DavidPostill He lives in a south-american country where people speak Spanish.

Havoc Lamperouge

Two years ago when the USD to BRL ratio skyrocketed the importers stop buying and huge retailers like KABUM! and BalãoDaInformática Bought ALL the stock in the hardware distributors' menu

Since then no one has capital do import

They literally dumped millions of Reais to build huge stocks

They saw the dollar rising

For a few more years to come no one can compete with them

That REDACTED Guy

20:51

@HavocLamperouge Never heard of it. Source plz?

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Privileged information. Off course, you don't have to believe me.

@DavidPostill I'm from the 6th most populous city of Brazil, namely Belo Horizonte.
https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_munic%C3%ADpios_do_Brasil_por_popula%C3%A7%C3%A3o

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge There's nothing a "bit" of informal markets won't solve.

Havoc Lamperouge

hahaha

Sim

Falando nisso, os camelódromos em Belo Horizonte estão se lotando de imigrantes chineses já faz uns cinco anos.

Todo o centro está cheio de imigrantes no comércio.

DavidPostill

@ThatREDACTEDGuy camelódromo?

That REDACTED Guy

I know I started, but please let's keep the chat in English.

Havoc Lamperouge

20:54

@DavidPostill Market of contraband

DavidPostill

Thx

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I used to design "world-class-systems" for people who wanted to optimize the value of their cash.

I'd source the market all around importers for best prices then build computers or smallish data centers

I loved it

But since dollar went up I stopped

Just finishing college now.

That REDACTED Guy

Havoc Lamperouge

Yup... there's a camelódromo.

That REDACTED Guy

"Camelô" = informal street-seller. Not necessarily counterfeit.

Do not confuse with "Camelo" (camel).

Havoc Lamperouge

20:56

I hadn't actually seen that term used. A very good word construction.

That REDACTED Guy

"Camelódromo" = Camelô + drome.

@HavocLamperouge So... That's a fancy way of saying you used to upsell custom built computers? (Just kidding, I did that a handful of times as well)

Havoc Lamperouge

Oh yeas, It just means some goods are better priced (not always) others are goods you can't usually get legally. Others are contraband, others are counterfeit, some are original, but no retailers are selling but the street sellers know there's a market, so they grab some of it through other channels.

@That

tsk sorry

still learning this chat.

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge You'll get the hang of it eventually.

If you place an "@" and then start writing the name of a user, you can alt-tab between them

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy No not upsell. I'd build the system from scratch and save people a lot of money actually. Instead of buying a 5k computer from DELL or HP I'd make them a custom one with much more performance and better quality hardware, and still give them the same support, often for much more time than the big one's warranty.

And I'd go charge them anywhere from half the price of a DELL or HP machine to 80%

That REDACTED Guy

If you want to reply to a specific message, click on the small arrow at the end of the message.

@HavocLamperouge I know exactly what you mean, I did exactly that a few times.

Havoc Lamperouge

21:00

@ThatREDACTEDGuy The stars save the message forever?

But now I can't compete with the big ones buying intel cpus in the thousands and halting the market.

That REDACTED Guy

You were charging them not only for your work of assempling the machines, but for the price research, for knowing which pieces work best with which, for support and for the knowledge. And it would still be cheaper than a pre-assembled one

Havoc Lamperouge

Its better off to tell a client to see if someone's coming from abroad and could buy them a new rig out there

I can't really do much right now.

Exactly

I felt good doing it.

Did something I loved.

Made machines I was proud of making

Ave

@ThatREDACTEDGuy hahayes

the package isn't there.

Havoc Lamperouge

Machines that could last ten years with just a few upgrades.

Ave

she checked po, it's not on her grandma

Havoc Lamperouge

21:02

Machines with planned lifetimes.

It was beautiful

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge I know exactly what you mean.

Ave

also, it's sunday

no deliveries

That REDACTED Guy

@Ave My coworker used to work for Correios and maybe he still has... internal contacts.

I can try checking with him if the package don't show up soon.

Ave

neat, thanks :)

That REDACTED Guy

Oh @HavocLamperouge you can also edit messages if they're more recent than 3 minutes.

@Ave Next time see if you can send using the "in the person's hand only" type of delivery

Technically they'll deliver to the recipient only and just them, no one else.

Havoc Lamperouge

21:06

And technically you are not liably for it if they don't deliver in-hands.

liable*

Lawyers use that all the time for citations.

Ave

@ThatREDACTEDGuy yeah I didn't know

tomorrow she'll call correios

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge No, all messages are saved forever in the history.

Stars just call attention to it ~~and is totally not like facebook "likes" and there are no star whores here~~

Ave

give me stars! I want stars!

Havoc Lamperouge

LMAO

Ave

I'd call them myself but I don't have international minutes to them and I don't want to use notsophone

That REDACTED Guy

21:08

No @Ave, that's how you do it:

Don't star this.

Havoc Lamperouge

Have you guys read this https://www.khronos.org/registry/vulkan/specs/1.0/html/vkspec.html#boilerplate-flags
?

Ave

That REDACTED Guy

@Ave ?????

Ave

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I'm not starring it

(I'm sarcastic btw)

Havoc Lamperouge

ahahha you're fluent in Brazillian Spanish?

That REDACTED Guy

21:09

@HavocLamperouge The site keeps rendering forever.

Havoc Lamperouge

Nice

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge I'm native.

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy yeah, sadly its the ENTIRE Vulkan documentation at once on that site. They couldn't bring themselves to write a 'readthedocs'. Good thing is you can easily save it as pdf.

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge All I know about GPUs is: they exist, they're expensive, I won't own one so soon.

Havoc Lamperouge

Really? That bad in Buenos Aires?

(By that I mean Brasília).

Since your profile says you live in the capitol jungle of Brazil.

That REDACTED Guy

21:12

@Ave I don't know if it would be available as it's something you request from Correios upon checking out your order with them, not sure how it would be done with an international package they receive.

@HavocLamperouge Nah, I live in Rio.

Havoc Lamperouge

Ah ok

Give me a P.O. Box. I'll send you a gpu from my old stock.

Don't give me your personal address ahha

Ave

lol

be prepared to have the package arrive in like, 3 months

Havoc Lamperouge

Ave, where is the package coming from? Regular personal package? Or from a store?

Ave

and get mishandled and potentially burned in process

and in the end probably lost

@HavocLamperouge etsy.

handmade thingy.

Havoc Lamperouge

hmm.

That REDACTED Guy

21:15

@HavocLamperouge Well, the thing is, I own a 6GB i5 laptop, and nothing else (well, a Pi 1st model, a Pi Zero w/out wifi, a mini ITX mobo I use as a pfSense instance, an old Lenovo desktop catching dust).

Havoc Lamperouge

ah ic. I can't possibly find a GPU that fits...

hmm

That REDACTED Guy

Nothing decent I could use as a proper gaming / dev / serious work PC.

But thanks for the offer

Havoc Lamperouge

Don't mention it.

XP

Pi is fun!

That REDACTED Guy

I might assemble something slowwwwly when I pay all my debts.

But the curse of adulthood is having money for gadgets, but having no time. And having responsabilities with your money.

And I already own an Xbox 360, a Wii, a recently-bought PS2 (yes, PS2) and a lots of games on steam

And the last time I played something was back in... October?

So, spending multiple times my salary building an impressive PC sounds... tempting, and also totally a waste.

Michael Frank

WTF Amazon... Two identical packages "lost in delivery"? Really?!

That REDACTED Guy

21:19

@HavocLamperouge They are, specially if you know electronics (not my case).

All I ever built are a media center (OpenElec with xbmc/kodi), an adblock DNS (pihole), and a gaming emulator (retropie)

djsmiley2k

The UK version of US prices is fun

Havoc Lamperouge

@djsmiley2k :sadface:

djsmiley2k

at a time when it was £2:$1, they'd do a direct convertion

That REDACTED Guy

Recently I've found out people are making arcades like the ones from the bars in the 90's with coin receptors and all, I want to make one too someday

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I tried making a little server once.

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I have a friend who bought one for his bar.

That REDACTED Guy

21:21

Meh. Buying one isn't fun, making one is!

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Making one is easy? I'd definitely put my Dreamcast for good use with that.

Ave

aaaaaa cc @ThatREDACTEDGuy

That REDACTED Guy

Well, you see, all I've found is facebook groups and it's a total mess, way worse than forums.

@Ave \o/ \o/

@Ave I'm glad that ████ could get her ████ at ████

@HavocLamperouge I don't follow. I meant using a Pi as the CPU of an arcade machine.

Something like this:

With a Pi inside.

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Ah... I was thinking of remaking stuff like, Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, but building the whole structure and using MOAR games. And also more modern games. Like Spawn: In The Demon's Hand, which never saw one arcade machine sold where I live.

But since I have the dreamcast, and an original BIOS

I can rip mine

And emulate one

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge But I would be wary of putting one in a real bar because the law could complain of (1) children playing it in a bar, (2) charge it as a "jackpot machine", (3) maaaaaaaaaaybe complain about piracy of ROMs?

Havoc Lamperouge

21:29

In any hardware really

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Ah my friend doesn't charge for it.

djsmiley2k

priacy, brazil? never!

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Its free

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Yeah But I have lots of original ROMs. So I wouldn't have to pirate anything.

@ThatREDACTEDGuy One way or the other you have to spend money in it. My friend bought a real licensed machine, with lots of games. But his cost like 17k

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Cos all the games are licensed.

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge That's a gray area.

It would be really cool putting one during parties or at a night-club. I saw one at a night club and it was cool, people would gather over it and it was a sort of conversation starter.

Havoc Lamperouge

If I rip my original Dreamcast BIOS and use the games I bought there's no illegality.

That REDACTED Guy

@HavocLamperouge Disputable as you would be providing it to others, not as personal use.

Havoc Lamperouge

21:31

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Why its gray?

@ThatREDACTEDGuy Hmm. Its not a public venue as in a concert. Software license for my personal use is limited to one copy being run at a time. You think there's more legal liability than this?

That REDACTED Guy

Because when you "buy" a game you're actually (arguably) buying a licence, the rights to use that specific release in that specific hardware, that's why you buy a game for PC and buy it again for a console.

I don't agree with this vision, but it can be argued and tried to enforce.

But again, it's Brazil. They would only complain about it if using it as arguments for a bribe.

@HavocLamperouge IANAL.

Havoc Lamperouge

No I agree with the license part. But the license of old software has no specific hardware implications and none could be enforced at this point in time. For new software, maybe. Oh cops wouldn't argue. Maybe Municipal Fiscals.

That REDACTED Guy

In my opinion the most probable outcome is nothing happening at all. But I never owned a bar.

Havoc Lamperouge

@ThatREDACTEDGuy I see. I am though. Its why I asked. I'm always looking for more legal arguments ahah.

I know what you mean though

That REDACTED Guy

Oh! :-O

Havoc Lamperouge

21:35

XP

That REDACTED Guy

So you're studying law?

Havoc Lamperouge

Already passed the bar (OAB). Been practicing for four years now as intern. Just a few more subjects at college and I'll get my ability to council solo.

That REDACTED Guy

Congratulations!

Ave

@ThatREDACTEDGuy confirmed through videochat, she has it.

That REDACTED Guy

Yay ^_^

Havoc Lamperouge

21:47

@ThatREDACTEDGuy XP thanks!

Michael Frank

GG Amazon.

Havoc Lamperouge

...

Michael Frank

On the plus side, they refunded the order, and if it turns up I get to keep it anyway.

djsmiley2k

lol

Havoc Lamperouge

\o/

Michael Frank

22:01

I mean, it's literally just a mechanical pencil, but hey.. free stuff!

Bob

22:18

morn

Ben N

Hi!

rahuldottech

23:02

o/

The Single Greatest Roast in Television History

►

cc @ave

Journeyman Geek

@HavocLamperouge AHHH A LAWYER. (Hi!)

bertieb

You'd better get a lawy- hey, wait a minute...

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb I could go woof, but he might think I was trying to eat him or something.

bertieb

23:17

Thing to get used to in 'Root Access', Volume I. #1: Idiosyncratic greetings

3

Journeyman Geek

or the many memes of foo that people keep threatening to do, ala many memes of meta.

(which I kinda oppose cause I suspect it would be 90% me)

rahuldottech

I'm such a goddamned idiot

bertieb

PPCG got rid of theirs :(

Ave

@rahuldottech nice

rahuldottech

@bertieb ://

Ave

23:28

I mean

the bet is, meh

~~I know people who'd willingly do that~~

Havoc Lamperouge

23:39

@JourneymanGeek Entaro Tassadar, Executor.

rahuldottech

> Being with a married man might feel exhilarating at first. But, if he fails to end his marriage and commit to you fully, you may need to make the choice to end things. Walking away can be challenging, but you can successfully cut ties by remembering your worth and getting support from someone who loves you. Once you’re ready, have the talk with your married lover and let him know that you can’t be with him anymore. Then, shake up your routine to stay away from him for good.

This seems... sorta malicious

from wikihow.com/Walk-Away-from-a-Married-Man

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech why are you even reading that?

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek It was on the WikiHow front page

I have an exam in two hours

Havoc Lamperouge

@JourneymanGeek I wanna know too

rahuldottech

16 mins ago, by rahuldottech

I'm such a goddamned idiot

bye

Michael Frank

23:44

@rahuldottech That's pretty common advice for someone wanting to end an affair tbh.

Ben N

23:59

Honest question: when people talking about alternate versions of characters use an exclamation point to separate the version and the person name (e.g. Mirror!Stamets), is that a reference to Excel's use of the exclamation point to indicate a cell on a different sheet?

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