Root Access

bertieb

00:00

Fingers crossed

I would be most unhappy if I lost my public v4

Ah, the clock struck midnight and gave me another twenty reviews you say

I guess I'll never get to bed :P

Right, off to bed, rest of close queue can wait. Night all o/

Journeyman Geek

00:16

@bertieb If the question will be closed, and it isn't obviously spam, don't bother

if its clearly spam, sure

flag spam if you want the user gone

Michael Frank

00:53

Called the ISP.. "Sorry, because you are on fiber you get a new private static IP"

Call the ISP again.. "Sorry man, we can totally sort that out for you, you might get a new IP, but this one will be public as well."

It all depends on who you talk to huh?

allquixotic

quora.com/…

Michael Frank

hisssssssssss

The enemy!

Bob

@allquixotic what.

Michael Frank

And yea... what.

Bob

"only the bleeding edge nightly version does" "that should be considered strictly experimental"

"Answered Jan 11"

u wot

it's been in stable since ... mid-late 2017

Michael Frank

00:57

I think someone at LambdaTest really wants us to go to their site.

Bob

> Google chrome has more stable versions than Firefox and its been ranked top among all browsers.

are you fucking kidding me

"more stable versions"

... ... ... ... ...

wait

is that 4 answers

Michael Frank

Yea

Bob

5 even

quora is a fucking dumpster fire

> Sorry, you asked the wrong guy.

mate, he didn't ask you

Michael Frank

Yea, that guy just hates container tabs I guess.

Quora is really bloody weird.

Bob

it's useless

it's worse than useless, even

starting with the whole login-to-view thing

Michael Frank

01:02

It feels like questions are just there, without any attribution, and then people... promote them for answers?

bwDraco

@allq: I missed earlier conversations about keyboards and monitors... mind if I join in now?

FML Cat

anandtech.com/show/12422/…

Someone's making 10GbE Thunderbolt adapters for <$300

Finally giving my laptop a method to connect to my server at >1G

bwDraco

Saw that earlier today. Problem is, Thunderbolt is rarely found on desktop motherboards.

And not a lot of laptops have it, either.

FML Cat

Course I could just chuck a TB3 adapter in my server, and run peer-to-peer TB3 10GbE for cheaper, but that makes it sorta hard to connect up my desktop if/when I finally get that set up again

bwDraco

It's mostly limited to premium laptops.

Jul 20 '17 at 22:54, by bwDraco

It's entirely technically possible, but the need for Thunderbolt is less acute on desktop platforms where you have access to the internal PCIe expansion bus.

Journeyman Geek

01:14

@bwDraco ehh. it feels strange to have a high end option that's not found on desktops

bwDraco

...well, we have internal 10GbE PCIe cards.

FML Cat

Wonder if I could just get a two-port TB3 adapter for my server, and just have two P2P connections to my server and finally have some use for all these Thunderbolt ports that just sit around doing nothing the rest of the time

bwDraco

When you have access to the internal PCIe bus, there's no point implementing Thunderbolt for most desktop use cases, SFF systems excepted.

FML Cat

But then a >5m TB3 cable to go from my desktop to my server will probably cost as much as a 10GbE card.

Maybe twice as much if I buy it from Apple -_-

Huh. £39 for a 0.8m Apple TB3 cable... £39 for a 2m Apple TB3 cable

That's... a surprisingly non-rip-off price for the latter

Bob

why are you buying Apple-branded cables?

FML Cat

01:17

@Bob Just poking about on Apple's website for the lolz, to see how much of a rip-off they are

I'd expected Monster Cable prices

Oddly a Belkin 2m TB3 cable is £65 vs £39 for Apple's on on their website

Going up to 5.5m costs £149.95... eurgh

bwDraco

The only Apple-branded device in this house is an mDP to VGA adapter.

Bob

> Yes, they're ecstasy tablets in the shape of Trump's head. Yes, they're orange. No, I don't know if it's merely coincidental that both Donald Trump and the psychoactive drug shaped in his likeness may cause paranoia and lead to depression.

=> troyhunt.com/making-light-of-the-dark-web-and-debunking-the-fud

FML Cat

Erf. Windows 10's retarded fake display resolution settings screws up screenshotting...

Fuck off MicroShit

At least the good old override it in old-control-panel-advanced-settings trick still works

Dat sensible Apple pricing

Speaking of retarded pricing... Meanwhile at Tesco

Michael Frank

Nothing retarded about a great deal!

FML Cat

Two-for-the-price-of-less-than-one

So much for banning sweet promotions that encourage unhealthy eating...

Journeyman Geek

01:34

@FMLCat ugh.

Like them messing with scotland's other national drink.

theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2018/2/14/17012382/…

.... the amusing thing is that's probably solvable with a sufficiently large coaster.

FML Cat

Erf anyone know of decent/reliable 3.5" USB drive caddies?

Last one I had was flakey... new replacement doesn't work at all

Journeyman Geek

> “We recommend placing your HomePod on a different surface.”

@FMLCat like I'm not parsing what you mean

FML Cat

Is that like the iPhone antennagate "We recommend you hold your phone differently"

Journeyman Geek

like for a big hard drive?

FML Cat

@JourneymanGeek For a 3.5" HDD, yes.

Journeyman Geek

01:36

@FMLCat precisely

ah. I was like "why the hell does @FMLCat need a floppy drive caddy"

Bob

o.O danielpocock.com/what-is-the-best-online-dating-site

Experian runs dating sites...

bwDraco

01:50

@FMLCat Sadly, we don't have strawberry ice cream cones here in the US (at least not under our equivalent brand, Good Humor).

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco Dude. CORNETTOS.

bwDraco

(Good Humor King Cones rarely get this cheap (~$1.50 for 4ct) in any local supermarket, even after accounting for their being slightly larger)

@JourneymanGeek Cornetto is not a US brand. We have Good Humor here.

Bob

...who names ice cream "Good Humor"? o.O

Journeyman Geek

^merkens.

;p

Bob

@bwDraco You probably at least have Drumsticks

Journeyman Geek

01:53

(I actually think its an older american brand that was acquired.)

Bob

those are probably more popular here than Cornetto anyway :P

bwDraco

Yes, but we don't usually see Drumsticks in this flavor, either.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob heh, we tend to get the fancy stuff these days. There's a local brand called udders with offbeat flavours...

peanutbutter, horlicks....

now I'm wondering if americans know what milo is.

bwDraco

I think we still have some on hand...

Heck, even Ovaltine is rarely found here.

Hmm...

Apparently, Milo is sold directly in the US market but it's not particularly common here.

The main brand of powdered milk beverage here is actually Nesquik.

FWIW, these are more of a niche product in the US than in most places.

(no VAT on most food)

Compared to other countries, our tax system just feels... weird. There's no federal-level consumption tax on most items, and any sales taxes are levied by the state and city. Here in New York City, it's 8.875%.

Michigan experimented with a VAT at one point in an attempt to replace several other taxes, but this proved unpopular.

Journeyman Geek

02:13

The nice thing and the bad thing with vat is its fairly friction free

(so tempting for governments to raise, since "its just taxing spending, and its easy to lower if we want to increase comsumption")

I think we've gone from 3 to 7 %

BUT we have very low personal taxes

FML Cat

Well thank fuck my birthday's over

I hate being 30.

allquixotic

02:28

for some reason I thought you were older than me, not younger

Bob

everyone's making @allquixotic feel old :P

FML Cat

@allquixotic I went to a board games event last week when I was the oldest person there...

Michael Frank

I'm turning 30 this year. :|

allquixotic

02:56

I think I'm older than all of you except Geek and DavidPostill

Journeyman Geek

yup

allquixotic

03:11

Bob's a lot younger than I thought he was, IIRC

Journeyman Geek

yup

> I am 12 and what is this?

Ash hits 13 in march

bwDraco

Still a young dragon at 25 :)

allquixotic

I'm an ancient cat at 32

Bob

03:27

@allquixotic Mayhaps :P

@allquixotic I suspect some of the UKers are older but idk

Michael Frank

I wonder if I win the number of kids game...

allquixotic

03:41

probably; I have 0 and always will have 0

Bob and Geek don't have any (that I know of) but dunno if it'll stay that way

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic heh, some other things would fall into place first

Journeyman Geek

04:39

ah, strange entirely off topic decision I need to make.

I kinda need to retire my dog run backpack - Its about 10 years old and falling apart. Planning to swap out my utility backpack (not the razer one) for that and replace it

Trying to decide between one of the same model in black dgsoldiertalk.com/tactical-backpacks/… or a slightly pricer one that looks better laid out dgsoldiertalk.com/tactical-backpacks/spectre-backpack-2958.html

Bob

@JourneymanGeek That looks hideous :P

Journeyman Geek

05:10

lol

the first one is what I have

has a crazy amount of space

and ehh

I think we have different astethic considerations.

I'm all "Its black and has pockets"

Bob

@JourneymanGeek it defaulted to white

Journeyman Geek

... there's no white model ;p

unless you mean the airforce digicam

Bob

...that one

Journeyman Geek

actually know

no

its "so ugly even bullets would be repelled" digital grey

Bob

I believe we called the CS:GO skin version of it "birdshit"

Journeyman Geek

05:16

(I seriously dislike digicam... and the new synthetic army uniforms)

"new"

Bob

there's a reason those particular skins go for like 2c :P

Journeyman Geek

see, that gun is so ugly that the bullets don't need gunpowder. They're repelled by sheer ugliness.

Bob

"Urban DDPAT"

Bob

05:38

Ordered that keyboard... 50 AUD delivered.

Journeyman Geek

05:49

"Dirty Dog Pat"

like cowpat.

Bob

07:04

hmmm

hm.

Journeyman Geek

bwDraco

woof

Journeyman Geek

07:28

> I am so sick of this, you two, with your violence and your threats and your shooting stuff. Neither of you gets it, do you? There isn't enough love in the universe as it is, and you're both just helping to kill off what's left. So shape up, because if you don't show each other a little peace, love, and understanding, I'm going to kill you both.

"And I'm going to get away with it cause I'm cute"

Andromeda is not bad ;p

bwDraco

Well, I've got yet more cleaning up to do tomorrow. It's Chinese New Year's Eve.

All work will stop and cleaning equipment put away at 11 pm local time.

Consolidated lots of odds and ends in my bedroom. Now I gotta vacuum the room, remove dust, and do some more tidying up.

Journeyman Geek

you guys can't clean over CNY right?

bwDraco

Not into Chinese New Year. As for me, work began on the 28th.

We're not superstitious, but we do try to uphold the traditions.

...it's a bit confusing here. By 28th, I meant the 28th day of month 12 on the lunar calendar, or February 12.

Bob

07:44

oh god they've started the drums

Journeyman Geek

lol

.... its actually errily quiet

bwDraco

!!/wiki Chinese New Year

ChatBot John Cavil

Chinese New Year

Chinese New Year, also known as the Spring Festival (simplified Chinese: 春节; traditional Chinese: 春節; pinyin: Chūn Jié) in modern China, often called the Lunar New Year in Asia, is an important Chinese festival celebrated at the turn of the traditional lunisolar Chinese calendar. Celebrations traditionally run from the evening preceding the first day, to the Lantern Festival on the 15th day of the first calendar month. The first day of the New Year falls on the new moon between 21 Jan and 20 Feb. In 2017, the first day of the Lunar New Year was on Saturday, 28 January, initiating the year of the...

bwDraco

> On the days immediately before the New Year celebration, Chinese families give their homes a thorough cleaning. There is a Cantonese saying "Wash away the dirt on nin ya baat" [年廿八，洗邋遢], but the practice is not restricted to nin ya baat (the 28th day of month 12). It is believed the cleaning sweeps away the bad luck of the preceding year and makes their homes ready for good luck. Brooms and dust pans are put away on the first day so that the newly arrived good luck cannot be swept away.

This has been the largest, most comprehensive cleanup I've gone through since we moved into this house.

We don't follow the traditions that closely, but this is one thing I do take seriously.

pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/…

> There’s also a system hang that could occur when twelve GPUs are performing a compute task. I WONDER WHAT CONDITIONS WOULD CAUSE THAT.

(emphasis in original)

No points for guessing.

Bob

08:16

Journeyman Geek

08:29

I'd be a bit quiet if I didn't have either of those.

@bwDraco FEATURE NOT BUG

Bob

"What's the most used language in programming?" "Profanity."

Tweeted by RealPython on February 13, 2018 at 12:45 AM

2

bwDraco

Why alienate blockchain users?

Anyway, I get the joke.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco good question - if it remains as a profitable venture, it makes more sense to tape out more efficient, process specific cards...

if it does not, you're going to get high end, used card flooding the market at some point.

which is bad,

you might have that happen anyway

bwDraco

A graphics card buyback program can stem the tide, allowing graphics card manufacturers to make a bit of money back by refurbishing and selling the cards through official retail channels.

Journeyman Geek

ehh.

As a gamer and PC builder? I think the two best options are cheap ASICs or the cryptocurrency market imploding.

bwDraco

08:34

Unfortunately, they can't pay top dollar this way, which could limit the number of potential sellers. Perhaps higher rates for those who are selling large numbers of cards would help.

Journeyman Geek

erm, those guys are the problem

bwDraco

(it's mainly the fans that would probably be replaced on a refurb card, and fans are cheap in bulk)

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco dosen't really make business sense. they'd still need to test and recertify the cards

rahuldottech

> If you run into an asshole in the morning, you’ve run into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, maybe you’re the asshole.

exam tomorrow bye gotta study will be online tomorrow

djsmiley2k

@FMLCat fake!

@JourneymanGeek Heroin?

Journeyman Geek

08:51

@djsmiley2k iron bru. Heroin is a white powder

djsmiley2k

@FMLCat I've used these ones many times amazon.co.uk/Storite-Dual-Bay-Docking-Station/dp/B01G5DEZ9W/…

@JourneymanGeek I know I know.... also Heroin is melted and injected.

Journeyman Geek

not drunk

djsmiley2k

shush, spoiling the joke :P

Burgi

09:17

morning

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k I take irn bru seriously ;p

Bob

09:31

I have no idea where I put my old tube of AS5

djsmiley2k

09:47

Still reads as Ass

Also working with 1 ear is incredibly hard

bertieb

Still pressurised? :-/

(I resisted the temptation to make a van Gogh joke)

djsmiley2k

:D

Yeah D:

either that or my ear drum is ruptured

I think it maybe fluid tho, because when I get out of bed, I litterally heard it filling up

bertieb

Erk

Ah

Burgi

grim

djsmiley2k

yeah

djsmiley2k

10:13

@ThatBrazilianPresident daqat?

bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-43067679

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb gogh away

bertieb

D:

rahuldottech

@Bob reddit.com/r/ProgrammerHumor/comments/7xkkkf/false

(look who posted it to reddit)

djsmiley2k

10:33

lul

Bob

welp, snapped a HSF pin (cc @bwDraco) :P

Journeyman Geek

o0

rahuldottech

10:56

@Burgi elected, but meh...

djsmiley2k

12:20

! superuser.com/questions/1295214/…

spam seeds

"Knowing what the acronym exactly means doesn't provide any useful value" Aside from this being one of the dumbest statements I've heard, I can assure you that if it's something I'm curious about, than others are too. Always get a kick out of seeing the "closed as off-topic" questions receiving the highest views. — Josh Campbell Jan 31 at 22:01

what a prat.

The funniest part is when you follow the rabbit hole

there's no evidence any of what is 'accepted' is correct either

Michael Frank

Yay! Got my public IP back. :)

djsmiley2k

whoop

bertieb

12:56

@MichaelFrank Huzzah! Did it get automatically assigned back to you or was it as a result of your enquiry?

djsmiley2k

13:28

ULTIMATE (super mega deluxe ex+α) Performance mode announced for windows 10 Pro

star me up, bitches :P

3

I even got the greek alpha symbol in there!

FML Cat

@djsmiley2k Ironically, the way I see it is it's great for gamers and not particularly useful for "pro" work

djsmiley2k

@FMLCat Nod. It's just the kind of things you'd expect from the max performance setting anyway.... so why not just fix that?

'This goes to 11'

FML Cat

Admittedly I don't do a huge deal of pro work like CAD, FEMS or Photoshop, but I'm perfectly used to and don't really care at all about micro (or macro) stuttering when doing that sorta stuff

Heck I'm used to FEMS tasks taking hours and Photoshop stuttering all the time cause I'm out of RAM, but that was before I made the leap from 8GB => 32GB

It's only gaming where micro-stutters and utmost performance makes any difference to me

djsmiley2k

13:43

nod

FML Cat

@djsmiley2k Tbh I didn't even know about max performance mode till now

djsmiley2k

the only other time i can imagine it making a difference, is working with live media

but most of that is gamers too ;D

FML Cat

I once set up my own cluster at home using four old laptops to run HFSS tasks across 8 different CPU cores... back before 6-12 CPU cores in a single socket were cough "affordable" cough

djsmiley2k

hmmm

I setup ~30 computers in our class at college, to be a render farm for me on blinc or blink, or whatever it was called

most of them crashed and overheated, but it was awesome to see

FML Cat

Well yeah, you can always cheat and use work PCs >_>

I mean my job at one point was to manage the supercomputing cluster so ...

We did also have a test project at one point to pool all the idle classroom PCs into a Hadoop cluster but never really made it mostly because politics

My other job at one point was to build cloud-bursting into our local supercompute cluster so it can automagically expand to theoretically unlimited cores via EC2 or Azure when the local resources were full... By which point compute jobs that were taxing on 8 CPU cores were kinda below my pay grade :-P

When someone came up with a job that needed 8 hundred cores, that's when I started getting excited

Journeyman Geek

13:53

0_0

djsmiley2k

now tht sounds fun

Not that I could do anything useful there really

other than maybe build some monitoring around it

Journeyman Geek

@FMLCat when I did, we actually used older machines for PS, and stuff like rendering probably isn't realtime. Totally a gaming feature ;p

FML Cat

@JourneymanGeek Exactly... most taxing jobs I've found that require "ultimate performance" weren't really real-time.

Journeyman Geek

maybe music production but that dosen't need a ton of processor power

its more IO hungry and even then....

FML Cat

Mind you, we did have a 40Gb/s nanosecond latency network fabric for our cluster for y'know, ensuring absolutely minimal latency but I still wouldn't have cared about microstutter when everything runs remotely via SSH

djsmiley2k

13:56

My point is, can you think of any reason why they add an 'extra' mode, rather than just make these changes to the 'Max Performance' mode?

FML Cat

Music production does indeed require real time low latency but as you say, isn't particularly CPU hungry... I managed that just fine on an Athlon 64

Journeyman Geek

got a job interview monday. I actually have no idea who the client is, only that its a 6 month contract

FML Cat

@djsmiley2k This mode goes to 11

djsmiley2k

I already said that :P

FML Cat

Exactly why I repeated it :-P

Guess it'll be useful for "pro" hardware benchmarking as well

@Burgi CAT-a-combs!

I do like a good kitty comb once in a while

Speaking of which, I just found cat hair inside my phone :-/

Bob

14:30

hi

djsmiley2k

sup @Bob

hmmm, someone who wants to disable tabs

is it your arch nemsis?

Journeyman Geek

0_0

engadget.com/2018/02/15/mac-ios-bug-crashes-apps

@djsmiley2k there's extensions for that 0_0

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek Again? Do you even regression test, bro?

@JourneymanGeek Is there?

I searched but found stuff about firefox 17...

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k to their defence, I'd almost argue that its an obscure language

other than there probably being at least one telungu speaking engineer in apple...

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek it's not exactly hard to test for tho

automated testing, do they do it?

xD

Journeyman Geek

14:43

for every charecter?

djsmiley2k

sure

computers are good at doing things like that

for chara in alphabet: test chara: done

FML Cat

There's an extension to un-extend Bob? Since we all know Bob only exists as an extension of his tabs...

RogUE

14:58

@FMLCat What does your user name mean? 'FeMaLe Cat'?

Journeyman Geek

@RogUE f*** my life.

they were having a bad day

RogUE

Journeyman Geek

lol

rahuldottech

@RogUE REDDIT

RogUE

I have some classmates, well most of them, who haven't seen a terminal before.

@rahuldottech Well, I got it from FB.

rahuldottech

15:08

@RogUE I meant that as a pun

As in

I've already "read it" elsewhere

(on reddit, that is)

:P

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek i thought it meant "fail"

Journeyman Geek

naw

djsmiley2k

@JourneymanGeek !!s/day/---day--- life

@Burgi ur younger than me, how come you're not down with the kiddos?

So after the discussions (yesterday? last night? This morning?) on the closing of questions etc..... this is deffo software-rec right? - superuser.com/questions/1295263/speech-recognition-in-videos

rahuldottech

15:31

-______________________________________________________-

Burgi

15:44

@djsmiley2k i'm 35

djsmiley2k

15:59

:O

In 1 year I've have no clue anymore :O

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