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14:02
@JourneymanGeek What an insult! Of course I can count - 1 2 3 4 ... ;)
wow just got an email for a react.js dev - 40k
Do you know react?
nope
but the FE guy does...
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Today, my WSUS server has download over 3 GB of Microsoft virus definition updates.
14:10
@Burgi the one you dislike?
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Or at least, that's what WSUS says.
yes
I'm hungry, I hope they still have yesterday's cake
@Burgi Do you know if they accept foreigners? I happen to know a few front-end devs, some do know ReactJS.
doesn't say
but the EU/UK has a law preventing discrimination based on country of origin
they would need a UK work visa
14:17
does IBM have a cloud platform?
softgrid i think
there has been a massive increase in traffic from IBM ip addresses in the last week or so
er
my memory is faulty
Hello, I have a question with applying cipher suites to a Windows server. All of the cipher suites I'm looking at have some variation of SHA256_P384 at the end. Could someone explain what this means? Linux servers do not have these. Or give some other details about it so I can google, because I'm not finding anything relevant.
formerly bluemix
user226528
14:20
Formerly?
seems they renamed it
user226528
I thought they were different things
user226528
I'd rather never bother myself with VMware or IBM. They have too many products with different names that they keep changing. Curiously, I always blamed Microsoft for doing exactly that.
user226528
Yeah, well, I spent no time on a phone at all. I went right into the shop and asked for Nokia N73. The shopkeeper kindly told me that N73 was long outdated. He sold me a more respectable N79, which was also outdated.
user226528
14:24
How long ago was that? A century?
user226528
Well, this thing still runs without charging for ten days.
o.O
but you can't use it to check the train times
user226528
No. I use my iPhone for that.
...
you have two phones?
are you a drug dealer? ;)
user226528
Well, if you count the phones that I have thrown away, more than two.
user226528
14:27
I used to have a Nokia 3310.
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And a Samsung E72.
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And an LG 7-something.
user226528
I am sure I once had a high-end Nokia with a monochrome screen. (Well, high-end for its own time.)
speaking of mobiles.... i need to get a new one for my dad
any recommendations for £150 or less?
user226528
I sense "Dad" is the keyword here.
user226528
14:29
How about his:
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!!wiki Nokia 3310 (2017)
Nokia 3310 (2017) is a Nokia-branded mobile phone developed by HMD Global. It was announced on 26 February 2017 at Mobile World Congress (MWC) 2017 in Barcelona, Spain, as a revival of the original Nokia 3310 that was produced from early-to-mid-2000s. An improved model with 3G support was released on 29 October 2017. == Launch == On 14 February 2017, it was reported that a modernised version of the 3310 would be unveiled at the 2017 Mobile World Congress in Barcelona by HMD Global Oy, a Finnish manufacturer with rights to market phones under the Nokia brand, with the price point of 59 euros. On...
NO
it has to be a smartphone
@Tiffany That's a question that should be asked on the main site, superuser.com
his current phone was free with £20 credit
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14:30
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Doesn't it look like a smartphone to you?
its CPU is hideous
user226528
Or maybe you intended to say touch-screen phone?
thats the definition of a smartphone
@Burgi moto Es might be that range
user226528
14:32
!!wiki smartphone
A smartphone is a handheld personal computer with a mobile operating system and an integrated mobile broadband cellular network connection for voice, SMS, and Internet data communication; most if not all smartphones also support Wi-Fi. Smartphones are typically pocket-sized, as opposed to tablets, which are much larger. They are able to run a variety of software components, known as “apps”. Most basic apps (e.g. event calendar, camera, web browser) come pre-installed with the system, while others are available for download from places like the Google Play Store or Apple App Store. Apps can receive...
things important to my dad: taking photos while out and about and whatsapp
@burgi Some peeps really need to work on their google-fu :)
i was already looking at the motos
user226528
14:36
If your dad takes photos, then Huawei P8 lite is probably what he is looking for.
@Burgi oppos arn't too bad either
and they have pretty decent cameras
the nokia 3 looks pretty good actually
my GF has the J3 mentioned in@DavidPostill's link
@JourneymanGeek doesn't look like the moto e's are available here
and the C looks under-powered
the G series has shot up in price
user226528
Ha! The acquisition was rumor! I told them! And they just downvoted my comment! Now, who is looking stupid?
user226528
14:46
......
https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20180205-00/?p=97965
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......
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And Adobe Flash Player update is finally available for WSUS.
user226528
Now, I checked: This month too, someone tried to vandalize the Adobe Flash Player article on Wikipedia by inserting an "It's insecure. Run for your life!" message at the top of it.
@FleetCommand wtf? Why is MS distributing Adobe Flash Player updates?
Two coworkers are at the kitchen rating the hotness of male actors.
14:54
@ThatBrazilianGuy Are the coworkers male or female?
we don't judge. But they clearly do.
@DavidPostill One female and one male.
The female one cited the "perfect man" as both the actor and the character of "Lucky Man"
Turns out it's Zack Efron
Everyone told her it's the same actor from High School Musical, to the point of googling in front of her, but she's in denial
The male coworker asked if she didn't prefer Jason Momoa who, in his words, is much better
@ThatBrazilianGuy I can see how he might appeal to persons of all sexual orientations ...
15:00
> This maintenance release fixes a severe bug in 4.9.3, which will cause sites that support automatic background updates to fail to update automatically, and will require action from you (or your host) for it to be updated to 4.9.4.
!!facepalm
@DavidPostill I can't, he looks like a Ken doll.
@ThatBrazilianGuy Hmm. A bit of a difference there ...
A tiny bit.
@ThatBrazilianGuy Exactly. I did say "all sexual orientations" to be inclusive ... :)
15:07
Unlimited gApps storage, yay! :D
Oh, wait, lifetime unlimited google storage! \o/
Google Drive included
@ThatBrazilianGuy Huh? Your screenshot says 0GB. Lifetime unlimited storage of 0GB is not very attractive!
I'm uploading some Linux ISO's to see what the total storage limit indicator says
...and by "Linux ISOs", I mean... Well, Linux ISOs, duh.
Only 54 Mbps upload. Meh.
15:27
3
A: Why are punch card readers no longer in use?

Ian TurtonThere are also some failure modes you have overlooked. The GB academic community's copy of the 1966 census was stored on punch cards but when someone tried to reload it they discovered that a squirrel had nested in the punch cards and many were now unreadable.

So, for much longer than I want to admit a couples days my gnome-shell session has been crashing whenever I plug a flash drive.
Turns out all I had to do was disable and extension: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/419867/…
And googling "fedora|gnome mount crash" directs me to a unix.se site as the first result.
gnome D:
I read that as gonorrhoea shell.
I think I should go to bed
> All 200 NHS trusts assessed for cyber security vulnerabilities have failed to meet the standard required, MPs have heard.

...

The Department of Health said that from next January hospitals will be subject to unannounced inspections of IT security.
@djsmiley2k Yeah, it's got its name because you need to smoke heavy drugs and see gnomes in order to be able to endure it
15:32
urgh
chat has stopped scrolling sometimes at home now too
not just at work
Why do they have to wait until next January?
and this time i don't have th scrolling experimental features on
@djsmiley2k It's spreading!!!!!!!!
what is?
15:34
the JS breaks, just hit F5 and it works again
@JourneymanGeek Alright, who introduced Ash to Snapchat?
@djsmiley2k gonorrhoea :)
@DavidPostill Well, you're technically correct.
@Burgi orly
@ThatBrazilianGuy he is still learning though. he hasn't tried the dog face filter
15:37
@djsmiley2k Are you suggesting that @Burgi should start wearing nail polish?
> ORLY is a professional nail brand known for its on-trend nail colour and innovative nail care treatments. Whether it’s our nail polish or gel polish, you’ll find ORLY adorning the fingertips of celebs such as Rihanna, Jourdan Dunn, Nicole Scherzinger, Molly King and The Kardashians.
@djsmiley2k yarly
i used to wear nail varnish
@djsmiley2k Kinky! ;)
15:38
@DavidPostill No, travel to France!
Orly is a commune in the southern suburbs of Paris, France. It is located 12.7 km (7.9 mi) from the center of Paris. The name of Orly came from Latin Aureliacum, "the villa of Aurelius". Orly Airport partially lies on the territory of the commune of Orly, which gave its name to the airport. == Transport == Orly is served by two stations on Paris RER line C: Les Saules and Orly – Ville. == Education == Schools in Orly: Preschools (écoles maternelles): Cité Jardins, Jean Moulin, Joliot-Curie, Marcel Cachin, Noyer-Grenot, Paul Eluard, Romain Rolland Elementary schools (écoles élémentaires)...
@ThatBrazilianGuy Don't spoil the joke!
He can wear ORLY in Orly if he wants...
I once sported nail varnish, lipstick, a blond wig, fishnets, high heeled shoes and a mini skirt for a fancy dress party (dressed as an ugly sister). Won a prize ...
15:43
well I am going to Chessey near paris on friday
@DavidPostill is that you?
@DavidPostill did you get a date?
@Burgi No. I was attending with my (now ex) wife.
16:23
@MichaelFrank Are you using a password manager to manage your password manager?
16:48
@Hiccup isn't that just a matter of passing them all on the command line (and/or a playlist link)?
I accidentally posted that. I don't have that problem anymore.
What is the term for this video playback issue? i.sstatic.net/qXFAK.png
"corrupted video stream"? (I'm editing a question)
17:05
that's not a transparent ava
17:16
@user598527 yeah or poor compression
17:42
@Burgi This is not a video file issue, corruption only occurs in VLC randomly and not other media players.
18:05
you asked what the best term was not what the issue was
Hey, I don't know if this is the right place for it, but I'm kinda stuck with a batch/powershell problem, is anybody online right now familiar with batch and powershell and could help me out real quick?
ask on the main Super User and a guru will be along shortly :)
Might be a duplicate and very specific, but alrgiht... will do
th
thx *
we have people who dream in PowerShell, don't worry ;)
hahaha, ok :DD
19:05
@DavidPostill I figured it out. One of those RTFM moments.
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@DavidPostill O.o ... You did not know?
@FatalBulletHit Sure, go right ahead
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19:23
@DavidPostill Alright. My surprise has passed. Now I can explain. Since Windows 8, Microsoft has been bundling Adobe Flash Player as part of Internet Explorer, when it started banishing traditional plug-ins. This is pretty much the same thing that Chrome did. Both Chrome and IE have dropped Flash since then. But Microsoft has a 10-year support obligation.
19:35
@rahuldottech @rahuldottech superuser.com/questions/1292886/…
hm, didn't mean to tag you twice... ._.
he'll come back to you @FatalBulletHit, don't worry
@djsmiley2k yeah, I'm just figuring out how to use this chat more or less properly... :D
no problem, if you reply to someones message, it adds the hilight to them
19:54
@FleetCommand IE & Edge still update Flash via Windows Update.
20:06
@FatalBulletHit Got you covered (cc @rahuldottech)
o/
...sure is a lot of talk about gonorrhoea today
Fun fact, gonorrhoea is becoming increasingly resistant (public health authorities tend to blame the promiscuity of young folk these days)
First line treatment is dual antibiotic therapy (intramuscular ceftriaxone and oral azithromycin) to combat this 👍
The things you learn while revising
(I should hasten to point out!)
Ah, there we go
Apocalyptic headlines, woo
20:22
Another fun fact
it's the strongest biological thing on earth
Well... I really wish tape storage saw more uptake in consumer applications, even if only for prosumer/workstation usage.
> These tiny creatures can pull with a force equal to 100,000 times their body weight – as though a human could drag 10 million kilos.
There are Ultrium LTO drives that connect via Thunderbolt, but wake me up when somebody comes out with an Ultrium LTO-6 or newer drive that can be attached via USB 3.1 Gen 2.
(mLogic makes these Thunderbolt tape drives, intended primarily for workstation use)
@FleetCommand No. I'm still running Windows 7 :)
TIL the NTC thermistor used to limit inrush currents in a power supply can be damaged if you repeatedly connect and disconnect power in a short period of time:
33
A: Was there ever any reason to wait 30 seconds to restart a c.1995 PC?

PhilipI am an EE system designer. I have designed many PC systems (and non PC ones). I do lots of power supply work and have dealt with many HDDs. As always, there is bound to be an exception somewhere. If someone told me to design an exception I certainly could, but here is my take: 30 seconds ...

20:39
@BenN :)
@DavidPostill Been doing that for a while
@BenN Thanks a lot! Just what I needed... :)
Raven Ridge has 16 PCIe 3.0 lanes. Intended usage: 8 lanes graphics, 4 lanes NVMe, 4 lanes chipset.
21:33
Can I ask for some beta testers on a very small open-source app I'm building? I believe it's ready to go, but you need to compile it with Visual Studio. If you're interested, ping me please
@CanadianLuke Me!
But I'll only be available after a couple of weeks, have exams right now
It's tested on an Administrator account for Windows 10. I need to test on Windows 7, 8[.1], and 10 without Admin Privs
No problem
@CanadianLuke Hey, if you can get me a binary, I'll test it on different systems with different OSs tomorrow in school during break
21:36
It's a ClickOnce program, so it needs to be installed :-/
I wish I could figure out how to make the VB.Net project appear as a single binary that just runs
@CanadianLuke An installer then?
I can't really compile stuff right now
OK, one sec, I'll see if I can do it manually... I'll post a link to the binary
@CanadianLuke Works fine on my PC (win10 home, 64bit, admin)
Will test in school tomorrow :)
@CanadianLuke (c) is still stuck on last year :P
We're in '18 now :)
21:46
Yea, but you want the copyright being when you started, not when you ended ;-)
@CanadianLuke Hm, what's the reasoning behind that?
So that if Joe Blow comes by, saying he wrote the app before tomorrow, my copyright shows I started it in 2017, so I would win... aka, I'm the original
@CanadianLuke ahhhh
@FatalBulletHit told you we had gurus
@CanadianLuke ^
^^^ @CanadianLuke
@CanadianLuke ^^^^^
When I " Otherwise, click the button below to install the prerequisites and run the application."
@DavidPostill Huh, worked for me
Does say on the page that you need .NET v4.6.1 tho
22:02
@rahuldottech I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
@rahuldottech Yes, and it says click the button below to install the prequisites
just find a girl that can do all of the following:
- Challenges you intellectually
- Can hold a conversation
- Can cook
- Buys you beer
she doesn't need to be a geek
@Burgi Yeah but that's like a different thing altogether
I HAVE A TEST TODAY ARGHHHH GOODNIGHT
i bought my girlfriend a Slanket and a Chromecast
her reaction: "BEST GIFTS EVER!!!!!!! LETS GO TO THE BEDROOM!!!!!"
actual quote
22:05
Damn... Maybe I can target a lower .NET version...
she sits there all wrapped up casting netflix and spotify to her TV
@rahuldottech @DavidPostill Try again please? Same URL
@Burgi Looks like it is just an oversized dressing gown and needs to be removed to go to the bathroom ...
@DavidPostill You should probably think about changing that over the next couple of years
Though being old and shite actually protected WinXP against WannaCry, so go figure
@DavidPostill my GF likes to snuggle on sofas
22:09
@Mokubai I will probably get a new computer first :)
@CanadianLuke No difference. Because of Avast I get a 0 bytes setup.exe
:( What if you disable your AV? It's working with AVG at least...
You expect an answer to your homework when you don't show us the data? Please read How do I ask a good question? and What types of questions should I avoid asking?. — DavidPostill ♦ 16 secs ago
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Q: Excel Survey Analysis

KVpoteat**I was given this assignment. I cant figure out how to tally the largest group based off of the three criteria. I was able to do everything else. Any help would be greatly Appreciated. ** The president of a pet food company recently did a survey of people's favorite animals. He now wants an an...

23:12
"Hey, I can't open any of the files that I need for a submission to *x* company this afternoon. Can you fix it?"

"Sure, let me take a look..."

*File path name is too long.*
Bob
Bob
@DavidPostill "DRep", AKA "absolute bullshit" (cc @CanadianLuke)
@Bob Yea, I was reading Avast's forum about it. I'm not willing to pay $250 USD (aka 5 million CAD) per year for a code signing certificate
Bob
Bob
It's a fancy name for the "reputation" of the file not being good enough, much like Symantec's "WS.Reputation"
It basically means not "enough" people have used it yet.
In other words, it's a great reason to nuke Avast from your system for being a worthless pile of crap
I'm sure it'll catch SOMETHING... But if a virus gets by it, and a million Avast users have run it without triggering a warning... The virus is clean?
The correct not so shitty response should have been "We couldn't determine the reputation/safety of this file, are you sure you want to run it?"
Bob
Bob
23:16
Even Windows SmartScreen does that, and hides the "allow" option.
I turned that one off pretty quick.
The best is when they "detect" an application you built yourself. There's nothing quite as rage-inducing.
Is that related to the annoying File Properties checkbox that allows you to unblock files downloaded from the internet?
Not sure... I disable Smart Screen filtering on my own machine, but I wouldn't dare do it on the default system image for the organization!
It's a real fun time when somebody in a shared Dropbox folder has overzealous antivirus and thereby deletes random programs from the folder
I miss the days of VB6... Create an EXE that didn't rely on external libraries... distribute the binary...
Bob
Bob
@MichaelFrank Nah, that's just an ADS and doesn't really block anything.
@CanadianLuke You can still do that now.
23:20
How? It generates the setup.exe file, and application_name.application
Bob
Bob
If it's a native binary, just build it statically linked.
I use the Community version of Visual Studio
Bob
Bob
If it's a CIL binary, use ILMerge.
Bob
Bob
@CanadianLuke Do you really need ClickOnce?
What is your goal here?
23:22
No... I'd much rather have JUST an EXE file, since I can, as the administrator in my network, deploy the EXE to a fixed location on each computer, and create a shortcut
Bob
Bob
Do you want to distribute a portable/standalone binary?
Or do you want it to be installable?
Distribute a portable/standalone binary
Bob
Bob
It's pretty easy to generate a full MSI installer, and that's probably better for a AD-distributed program.
Using PDQ, we don't have AD here
Bob
Bob
Otherwise, you can ILMerge it, but IMO manually handling the shortcuts is a bit bleh.
@CanadianLuke Gimme a few mins, I'll chuck ILMerge in
23:24
OK thanks... I never heard of that
Bob
Bob
Hmmmmm. I have no idea how to remove ClickOnce :P
Eh.
@CanadianLuke You don't have any resources (DLLs, mainly) that need copying/merging. So if you just remove ClickOnce you get a single exe you can distribute...
How do I remove ClickOnce?
Clippy to the rescue!
OMG THAT WORKED
Bob
Bob
@CanadianLuke I'm not entirely sure but I just unticked "Enable ClickOnce security settings" under project properties => security, and deleted the pfx
you might want to keep the pfx if you need that signing key elsewhere
I'm going to throw it on a Windows 7 box, and see if it "just works"
We just received a job application through our fax machine...
Bob
Bob
23:35
ILMerge is only necessary if you have additional DLLs
the .config file miiiiight be needed though
if you need the supportedRuntimes
and there's apparently no way to embed that, so you'd have to create the installer
@CanadianLuke You'd need a 4.6.1 .NET installed
Well, it worked on Windows 7, with just the .exe, so I'm happy :)
Bob
Bob
actually, any reason you can't do this in Core?
it'd increase the distributable size a bit but it'd be more portable
Bob
Bob
I'd check if the code were portable (it probably is), but I don't intend to torture myself with trying to read VB right now, sorry :P
@CanadianLuke keep in mind that a new win7 install only has 3.5
Those are my choices
Alright, I'll try 3.5 then
Bob
Bob
23:38
and <=3.5 is CLR 2.0 (vs >=4.0 is CLR 4.0), which are incompatible
so if you set it to 3.5 you can't run it on win8 or win10 without installing 3.5 on them
@CanadianLuke ^
That's the main reason then... It's for my Windows 8 and 10 users, more so than Windows 7
Bob
Bob
IIRC there is possibly a way with supportedRuntimes but then you'd need to distribute the .config file with it
I just want a portable app that just runs... I'll deal with it being at the 4.0 level
All my systems get the latest .Net runtimes when I image them anyways
I really appreciate the help though :)
Bob
Bob
@CanadianLuke if you really want "just runs" across 7 and 10 you don't control, Core is the way to go
So which one is Core? 3.5?
Bob
Bob
23:40
if you have some measure of control (or can get the user to install 4.0+ on 7), 4.x is the better option
@CanadianLuke Core is a different ecosystem entirely, that is largely code-compatible but not completely
@CanadianLuke yea as long as you install a more recent .NET on 7 you're good to go
OK, I'll attempt that and post new links later. Thank you SO MUCH
Bob
Bob
> There are a few ways of avoiding the problem.

The obvious one is to abandon the Windows 95 version of the product. Because c'mon now.
@CanadianLuke sooo... what am I meant to do with that? :P
23:55
Click it, see if it runs (other than the Smart Screen "feature")
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