Root Access

allquixotic

00:12

@Bob no? O_O

Bob

o.O

one sec

@allquixotic chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/118?m=41856606#41856606, and the four messages down

@allquixotic If you feel like trying it, I'll buy you one. Call it a Christmas present :)

allquixotic

@Bob O_O

I appreciate it, but the range and earcup shape is probably no good for me... I might buy them to "try" them (like I did the Arctis 7, which I returned because it sucks) but no need to get me a pair.... though I appreciate it :)

I could use a list of non-BT proprietary headsets, because I'm only aware of a very small number of brands

Sennheiser, Corsair and Steelseries, for the most part

Bob

@allquixotic Hm... range-wise, you did say the Siberia was alright

also apparently there's a new VOID Pro

newer model than mine, supposedly with a much improved mic

allquixotic

the Siberia is marginal

Bob

ah

this has almost the exact specced range

probably some certification thing

allquixotic

00:18

the Beats are by far the longest range headset I have, more than sufficient. Class 1 FTW

I wonder if Apple W1 is the only true Class 1 chipset

Bob

@allquixotic Eh, offer's open if you want it - range aside, I'm personally happy enough with the comfort to recommend it for that :P

allquixotic

I might get a pair from the local Best Buy, spend my gift certificates I earned by spending on Black Friday and for Xmas, and try out the range and comfort

how's the sound quality?

Bob

@allquixotic I'm happy with the audio output - often use it for music. Input (mic) you've heard me talk, and it's maybe not that great (esp. compared to a desktop mic like you have) but works well enough for voice chat - and is supposedly better in the new Pro version (same price?)

Not entirely sure how I'm supposed to judge mic quality though, I can only compare it to a old-ish Logitech ClearChat Comfort USB headset and a Microsoft Lifechat - I'd say it beats both :P

Michael Frank

That Logitech headset was one of the greatest I have ever used.

allquixotic

as long as it's GEFTS

Bob

00:25

@allquixotic gamespot.com/forums/pc-and-av-hardware-909394553/…

@allquixotic GEFTS?

allquixotic

Good Enough For TeamSpeak - I made that up just now

Bob

It is over-ear, which is why I didn't directly add it to your hwrecs question since I think you asked for on-ear

but it's also rather different from the over-ear you said you didn't like, so...

allquixotic

yeah

Bob

@allquixotic Unfortunately I wouldn't expect anything close to your class 1 range, but I don't think I've heard of anything short of FM-based headphones that can do that :S

@allquixotic I wonder if you could get 802.11-based headsets with acceptable latency :P

Bob

01:01

Michael Frank

PSP!!

bwDraco

01:18

> !!

Journeyman Geek

01:29

@Bob PSP!

Also I read that as Outrage.

against my better judgement, but because its too darned funny and topical... (and if anyone is actually offended, let me know! No hard feelings...)

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek lol

I hate Trump and his anti-consumer policies :(

Journeyman Geek

Unrelatedly, other than bandwidth related issues....

Does this load for anyone? docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/smbshare/… I can't seem to get it to open ._.

nvm, only vivaldi

I'm rabbitholing

bwDraco

01:46

So.. it took Astaroth 8 minutes 17 seconds to batch process 50 photos on my current workflow. That's just under 10 seconds an image. (Ryzen 7 1800X at stock, memory at 2933 MT/s with timings 14-16-16-36.)

Don't recall the exact level of performance from the old laptop, but I kinda recall it was somewhere in the ballpark of 16-20 seconds an image.

Anybody here with experience doing batch photo processing, especially on 8C+ CPUs?

(using RawTherapee, which is very FP32-heavy and scales almost linearly with core count up to at least 8C/16T)

Michael Frank

@bwDraco Did you ask on the photography.se chat?

I'm not sure if it is particularly lively over there or not, but this seems like a perfect question for them.

bwDraco

Photography Chat

All-things photography related discussion.

There isn't much activity, sadly.

Journeyman Geek

02:05

MS's new docs site sucks

Seeing broken links amongst other things

Bob

@bwDraco in other words... not as good as expected?

cause I'd certainly expect more from a typical laptop vs desktop comparison, never mind generational differences

bwDraco

Well... not exactly. The scaling isn't 100% linear. One core is saturated while the rest are at about 80-85%.

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek I bet it breaks a bunch of script blocks as well.

Nothing worse than having to decipher a script example because their CMS has interpreted # as markdown for a header instead of a comment.

Bob

@bwDraco that sounds like it'll probably be even worse as you go up, if it's blocking on one thread

e.g. at 16 you might be down to ~60%?

Journeyman Geek

@MichaelFrank docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/smbshare/… this won't even load on vivaldi

Bob

02:09

could also be a NUMA thing, who knows

bwDraco

On the Dragon, it actually hit 100% utilization, but that's on 8 slower hardware threads.

Journeyman Geek

and there's broken links

Michael Frank

@JourneymanGeek Not suprising, that's not a real browser. ;)

Journeyman Geek

and it says "windows 10" but clearly the commands are for windows server

@MichaelFrank shrug its blink

Bob

@bwDraco sounds like either a 'too many cores' thing or a NUMA thing

though since it's 7 at 85% and not 4 at 85% maybe not NUMA

bwDraco

02:11

I think it's a core scaling limit.

Bob

and here you see why even this isn't really embarrassingly parallel :P

bwDraco

Yup.

I think I said something along those lines before...

Sep 15 at 5:19, by bwDraco

And despite RawTherapee's strong core scaling, there's probably little to be gained beyond 12-16 cores.

Sep 15 at 5:19, by bwDraco

(read: Amdahl's law)

A potential point for improvement is to process more than one image at once using fewer threads per image on high-core-count CPUs.

Given that each image is independent... there's no reason to not do that if scaling isn't linear otherwise.

That, however, would require more memory (and RawTherapee is already very memory-hungry) and memory bandwidth. This is alleviated by the fact that both Intel X299 and AMD X399 platforms use quad-channel memory architectures.

bwDraco

02:33

github.com/Beep6581/RawTherapee/issues/1678

I seriously wish there was GPU acceleration support. The GeForce GTX 1080 Ti would make short work of this sort of processing.

Bob

@bwDraco Yea, proper batching tends to scale better (constrained by memory or disk rather than CPU) than multithreaded processing of a single item

Batching is, CPU-wise, embarrassingly parallel.

Multithreading is hard :P

Bob

02:55

@JourneymanGeek Next up: figuring out how to protect that mini pc from power outages :P

Hm. I could just hope that everything survives an outage.

Or I could buy one of those little 12V UPSes, which are either expensive ($100+) or dodgy (Chinabay)

Michael Frank

03:05

Huh... I did not expect to get any hats this season...

I got a secret hat... but how?

Journeyman Geek

03:16

@MichaelFrank there's been hats for doing anything ;p

unless you mean the mod ~~boat~~ hat hat

Michael Frank

Whatever hat you seem to have on, I also have.

Journeyman Geek

ya, that's for closevoting iirc

Michael Frank

03:32

Oh that makes sense, since that's the only thing I've done today.

Bob

> The “best” example of this maintainability problem could be found in the old implementation of the printf family of functions. The CRT provides 142 different variations of printf, but most of the behavior is the same for all of the functions, so there are a set of common implementation functions that do the bulk of the work.

O_O

> These common implementation functions were all defined in output.c in the CRT sources(1). This 2,696 line file had 223 conditionally compiled regions of code (#ifdef, #else, etc.), over half of which were in a single 1,400 line function. This file was compiled 12 different ways to generate all of the common implementation functions.

O_O

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Ramhound

03:51

"The term 'Install-WindowsFeature' is not recognized as the name of a cmdlet," which is because i was told to use install instead of get

infact get nor install work

Journeyman Geek

errrr

yup!

I think the docs are actually meant for server, but I'm hoping someone proves me wrong ;p

Ramhound

trying to figure out why the syntax would be wrong

well i can install any windows feature currently.

through powershell

docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/server-manager/…

this work for anyone if they choose windows10/2016?

Journeyman Geek

install-windowsfeature fails for me too

Ramhound

you have to import a module

social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/…

NM only applies to server

Journeyman Geek

nope. no difference

also, The cmdlets work

Ramhound

04:00

i know you are suppose to be able ot add rfeature thorugh powerhsell

didnt work me ;$

Journeyman Geek

If it were easy, I'd self answer ;)

Ramhound

dont get me the spray bottle out

lol its not working because these are dism commands

so i cant determine if the feature is suppose to work or not

Journeyman Geek

lol

that's kinda XY I suppose

what I'm really trying to do is throttle SMB or connections to a specific IP

@Ramhound I might have something useful there

peter.hahndorf.eu/blog/WindowsFeatureViaCmd.html

Ramhound

04:16

so you haver to user dism but that does nt seem right if your using RSAT

sorry typing on a surface type keyboard is impossible let alone on a bed

Journeyman Geek

hm

Ramhound

it indicates that manager role has to be installed which is server but the documentation on the cmdlet to limit seems to indicate you can apply it to a client

Journeyman Geek

Based off his list...

C:\WINDOWS\system32>DISM /online /Get-FeatureInfo /FeatureName:SMBBW

Deployment Image Servicing and Management tool
Version: 10.0.16299.15

Image Version: 10.0.16299.125


Error: 0x800f080c

Feature name SMBBW is unknown.
A Windows feature name was not recognized.
Use the /Get-Features option to find the name of the feature in the image and try the command again.

The DISM log file can be found at C:\WINDOWS\Logs\DISM\dism.log

Ramhound

ms moved to a new doc system i am guessing this is a mistake ssaying that it applies to windows 10

Journeyman Geek

seems to be

DISM /online /Get-Features dosen't list it either....

Might be barking up the wrong tree

Ramhound

04:25

legacy version of the doc system indicates windows 8,(also) 1 and 2012R2 but i don't believe it

Bob

I would not be surprised if this simply means the cmdlet (which can target a remote machine via -CimSession) is available on Windows 10 but can only target Server. — Bob 55 mins ago

it's fairly common IIRC

Journeyman Geek

bleh

I'll probably be asking another question about the actual problem soonish

CoderCat

04:50

You're dereferencing a null pointer!

►

what can powershell do that batch/vbscript cant

Ramhound

just shipped a christmas pressent tpo the wrong hosue oops

CoderCat

tell the ship to do a U turn

smartphones need more physical buttons and less pretendy buttons. for example screen zoom buttons, a tab key to select different things

not all web pages let the user pinch to zoom

Boris_yo

05:07

Drive C running low space...

I wonder how to increase partition size.

I have no partition space left.

CoderCat

easeus partition manager

raid. or get a new drive

Boris_yo

@CoderCat Doesn't Windows have integrated?

FDISK?

Why EaseUs?

CoderCat

more user friendly, possibly safer. runs in ring 0

fdisk is a command line tool and probably req

uires a format

Boris_yo

How about Windows Storage Manager?

Ramhound

what about it?

you mean disk manager?

Boris_yo

05:18

Yes. Disk Management

Shrink, Extend

Ramhound

You would have to delete an existing partition in order to extend the C partition

specifically the partition that follows the C partition

Boris_yo

Delete? Are you sure?

bwDraco

tomshardware.com/news/…

Boris_yo

If I want to shrink 20GB to make available for partition C I will have to delete/format F?

bwDraco

> The MIT researchers warned that this type of technology could be used to trick TSA’s own threat recognition algorithms into thinking that, for instance, a turtle is a gun, or vice-versa. Such hacks could also be employed by terrorists to disguise their bombs from TSA’s image recognition systems.

Ouch.

Bob

05:24

o.O just found this (cc @JourneymanGeek) dragonblogger.com/kingdian-s280-ssd-review-and-benchmark

bwDraco

That's scary.

Bob

also, no relation to @bwDraco? :P

bwDraco

No, not me.

See bwdraco.blogspot.com instead.

Not a lot of activity lately, though.

Bob

@bwDraco was joking

bwDraco

:P

Journeyman Geek

05:25

@Bob shrug

I buy some cheap crappy tech

and they work well for the specific uses ;p

bwDraco

26.5 sec to desktop. Pretty impressive.

Journeyman Geek

....

@Bob my dad runs one as his daily driver

actually

bwDraco

How's the QD1 random read performance? That's probably the biggest factor here.

Journeyman Geek

on an old r61 with a gig of ram on windows 10

That's hitting a decade now?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek hey, I was looking because I wanted to get one!

Journeyman Geek

05:27

@Bob Its "reliable"

as in "hasn't died yet"

bwDraco

Hmm... Planar MLC. That stuff is hard to find these days. No wonder why it performs well.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco here's the joke

they have no choice but to use it

the kingdian I have has no ram cache

and early cacheless controllers did not support TLC

Ramhound

if you shrink the partion then the partionwill be after the existing partiton'

CoderCat

my pc is made out of stone

bwDraco

> ECC (Error Correction Code): Supports BCH 66-bits/1KB ECC.

Ramhound

05:29

what you want to do can ONLY be accomplish by deleting the partition extending the partition then creating a new partition,

bwDraco

That means it can't be TLC NAND. TLC needs LDPC. BCH will not cut it.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco its MLC

rofl

bwDraco

If it's MLC, then I'm not surprised it outperforms name-brand TLC NAND drives.

Journeyman Geek

WE HAS HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE

Mar 23 '16 at 5:58, by bwDraco

A few of the Kingdian models do seem to be using JMicron controllers, though.

around there

bwDraco

The S280 uses an SMI controller.

Those are generally better than JMicron.

Wait a sec...

Seems to be variable BOM. The newer ones appear to be using TLC NAND.

It is not DRAMless, though. Disassembly reveals a Nanya DRAM chip on the board.

Looks like some Chinese-fabbed NAND (part number HTHA16S2T1-10). It's surprising that it performs this well.

Bob

05:38

@JourneymanGeek @bwDraco Looks like KingFast might actually be a good choice :P thessdreview.com/daily-news/latest-buzz/…

idk what the prices are now though

bwDraco

I cannot find any solid info on this part - but chances are good this is planar MLC. Chinese fabs are slower to adopt new tech.

(Newegg's product page says it's MLC)

There's no sign of SLC buffering, which would be a dead giveaway for a drive that's not using planar MLC NAND.

Then again...

Aug 21 at 15:23, by bwDraco

Finally, some TLC NAND from someone other than Samsung that doesn't slow down when you write too much to it! http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/wd-blue-3d-sandisk-ultra-3d-ssd,5134.html

Bob

lol. @JourneymanGeek aliexpress.com/item/…

> 2015 Kingspec better than kingdian kingfast MSATA SSD 64GB 128gb Mini PCIE 60GB 120gb SATA SSD DISK with 3 years warranty

yes, that's actually what they put on the listing

Journeyman Geek

Hah lol

Michael Frank

06:00

So webkitgtk took 2 days to compile on my laptop before it installed lol

Journeyman Geek

06:16

@bwDraco mine's an older series

CoderCat

06:45

how to get android spell checker to work

maybe its firefox being a retard

in my gmail... oh I cant even be bothered to explain this

Ill just have to send badly typed emails

Michael Frank

07:16

You could probably just learn to spell. ;)

But if you are using a keyboard with autocorrect, it should change your words on the fly.

bwDraco

07:36

...CUE crashed on me while using one of the macro keys on my Corsair K95 RGB Platinum o_O

> Corsair Utility Engine has stopped working

Wat.

This was after hitting the G1 key (a macro key configured to speed up a common action in my photo post-processing workflow).

Restarted CUE. We should be okay now.

djsmiley2k

08:23

@CoderCat no sea key?

that's mah lyfe.

So apple admits they deliberately slow down older phones, with a maybe plausible reason..... why did they deny it for years then?

And why is it such a severe problem with iphones, my 5 yr old s4 wouldn't randomly shutdown

Burgi

08:51

morning

what on earth has happened to the cold weather?

its back into double digits again!

allquixotic

09:11

@Burgi you in the UK?

we must have a related weather system here in the US, except for the arctic systems that sometimes come down from Canada and freeze our butts off. here in the mid-Atlantic region of the US, the temperatures are way up, too

Burgi

@allquixotic i am

djsmiley2k

It's almost like the whole planet is just... warming up

allquixotic

@djsmiley2k as much as I agree with that, I don't believe that short-term weather patterns can be directly attributed to climate change yet - it's entirely reasonable to think that we could have a very cold year; we might even have a ridiculously cold decade if we just stray from the sun a liiiiiiittle bit

TLDR, yes we're having a big impact on the climate, but the changes we're making won't be seen in the regular til decades from now, and it's really what we do (or don't do) in the next 25-50 years that'll either preserve or kill our weather patterns' stability

we need to not talk about any individual "cold winter" or "hot winter" or whatever as being "climate change" because that gives climate deniers ammo to say "Nothing's wrong!" when we have a cold spell, even a cold decade, which is entirely possible

Bob

@allquixotic Funny thing, that. It's cooled down a lot over the last two days over here :)

peaked at 38 yesterday ~noon, and now we're sitting at a nice 22

though that's probably just because it rained yesterday arvo :P

allquixotic

@Bob arvo? I recall asking you what that meant before but I forgot

Bob

09:23

@allquixotic afternoon

allquixotic

ahh

Bob

we ... uh. have a thing for shortening words and adding -o to the end

don't do much of that myself but arvo stuck from high school days :P

allquixotic

hey, I have a job interview later, is this a good time to Sins? or should I be watching elasticsearch videos

or sleeping

Bob

lol

not a bad time for me, but I'd feel bad about distracting you from your job interview :P

allquixotic

it's in 10 hours

Bob

09:24

...sleeping? :P

oh wait it's probably early morning over there

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic yup

hehe

I don't remember a proper cold winter here, since like 1990 tho

oh plz lord let this laptop upgrade correctly once these win7 updates are done :/

allquixotic

it's 4:26 AM

Bob

@allquixotic IIRC it's observable now as more days with extremes appearing, but the extremes themselves are not noticeably worse, and there's still plenty of 'normal' days. oh, and there's extremes in both directions too

@allquixotic is that a "I woke up ridiculously early" or "I'm nocturnal now"?

'course, as a cat, you're nocturnal by default :P

allquixotic

@Bob I slept 6 hours starting at around 8pm after being sleep-deprived the previous night and having a busy extroverted day that drained me

woke up, watched some Youtube

salivated over laptops then decided better of it

Bob

lol

allquixotic

09:28

if I get the new job which should come with $, I'll celebrate by satisfying my wants

Bob

if you're up for sins, I am too - but probably only for about 2 hours :(

allquixotic

@Bob that'll just annoy me because we'll have to stop just as things are getting interesting :P

Bob

@allquixotic on that note, good luck with the interview!

allquixotic

probably around the time that the AI sends a huge attack force that I have to work hard to repel from a fortified system

Bob

@allquixotic lol. I'll be more active in about 4

allquixotic

09:29

Mozilla is Not Trustworthy

►

I use FF full-time on Windows on my main desktop now, because if Mozilla isn't trustworthy then what's Chrome lol

Bob

hm, 1.84 was the last update

@allquixotic lemme guess, that fuss over that extension again?

allquixotic

@Bob yeah, I don't care about it personally

I actually like Mr. Robot

Bob

the one that everyone exploded over because maybe a dozen people actually realised it didn't activate?

@allquixotic it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overblown

allquixotic

Lunduke is being pretty FOSS purist about this, which surprises me, because he's usually a little more pragmatic

Bob

it was an easter egg that you had to dig into configs to actually activate, and did nothing otherwise

if anything, it was far more visible than an easter egg baked into the core browser

allquixotic

09:32

also he's sponsored by System76, which is basically a Clevo repackager that charges you about $150 extra per SSD vs. what you can buy on Amazon, pop open the back of the laptop and install by hand

Bob

I swear 90% of the fuss is manufactured by inaccurate reporting

if anything it's (much) less intrusive than the Pocket integration

allquixotic

I just remove Pocket every time I see it

Bob

@allquixotic Pocket's actually owned by Mozilla now :P

@allquixotic if you're still up for sins in ~4-ish hours?

allquixotic

@Bob probably not - I'll be focusing on learning by then, for sure, or asleep

djsmiley2k

@allquixotic Google is very open about the fact you're the product tho

Bob

09:38

ok

DavidPostill

@JourneymanGeek Loads fine for me in the UK with FF.

Bob

@allquixotic weekend's probably a better idea anyway :P

after you have the new job and all :D

djsmiley2k

0what I find amusing is how people react differently to basically the same thing, done by different companies

allquixotic

@Bob gitter

cpx

Just signed up on GOG to get free Oxen copy!

Would be great if they just gave me a Steam key.

Bob

10:07

djsmiley2k

I lol'd

Burgi

@Bob #brexit

@cpx yeah i now need to figure out how to cast it to my steamlink and make it work with my steam controller

Burgi

10:32

hey @Bob are you OK with the terror attack?

only just heard about it

djsmiley2k

10:43

Oh fs windows

win 10 upgrade wont run because 'can't start api-ms-win-core-libraryloaderl1-1-1.dll is missing"

If anyone can help plz do

Burgi

oh ffs

an obsolete web app that we host is now not being retired until feb

but that means we cannot go live with our new site until after that app has been retired

djsmiley2k

11:09

:/

yey fixed the win10 upgrade

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A: Win 7, 64 bit, dll problems

I came here with this problem occuring, after trying a fresh Windows 7 OEM install, upgrading to Windows 10. After some searching of microsoft forums and such I found the following solution which worked for me: Replace C:\Windows10Upgrade\wimgapi.dll with the one from C:\Windows\System32\wim...

FML Cat

11:21

!! Caaaat

ChatBot John Cavil

Bob

11:33

@Burgi whaaaaaa

Burgi

bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-42437315

i realise now that you are in sydney

Bob

@Burgi ... ... ... dammit

shit, on Flinders?

djsmiley2k

I'm guessing that's a busy street?

There's something no one saw coming

AI driven cars

which will deliberately block misbehaving other cars

Bob

@djsmiley2k yea, one of the main streets iirc

like george st here in sydney

djsmiley2k

12:01

:/

FML Cat

@djsmiley2k yes

It's like right next to central station

Apparently it was some Australian of afghan descent with a history of mental health problems

allquixotic

0

Q: How to improve HVAC system to make upstairs rooms more comfortable?

My home was built in 1985 in the US with conventional HVAC design of that time. Wooden frame house. It has central air conditioning (ducted) and we upgraded to a natural gas furnace recently. We experience both hot and cold temperature extremes in summer and winter, as cold as 0 Fahrenheit and as...

hvac

FML Cat

That orange building is basically where I stayed in Melbs...

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ChatBot John Cavil

djsmiley2k

12:17

that's a big question

Another wild hat appeared, featuring @jokerdino ! - meta.stackexchange.com/questions/304500/…

Burgi

wait.... thats what @jokerdino looks like?

djsmiley2k

Confirmed photo of @jokerdino

Burgi

looks a bit grumpy

djsmiley2k

12:37

how you get the sun hat anyway

i got it, don't know how

Burgi

i think i upvoted both the question and answer

djsmiley2k

lol

Burgi

this is weird

i have edited my hosts file to point to a temporary subdomain to a server i'm testing on

nslookup, tracert and ping all return the correct IP but the browsers are returning 502

djsmiley2k

hm

Burgi

12:54

really don't want to wait for the DNS to propagate

Burgi

13:04

anything else i can look at for diagnostics?

Bob

13:15

@Burgi clear browser internal dns caches

DavidPostill

@Burgi ipconfig /flushdns?

Bob

and try curl

DavidPostill

> The man who deliberately drove a car into a crowd in Melbourne is a drug user with mental health issues but no known terrorism links, police say.

DavidPostill

13:58

TIL: There a dog breed called Cockapoo - waits for rude/abusive flags ;)

FML Cat

Or wget

Is the server configured to answer to the subdomain?

Journeyman Geek

@DavidPostill lovely dogs. Unfortunate name

Burgi

14:22

@FMLCat yes

@DavidPostill done

DavidPostill

@Burgi Did it work?

Burgi

nope

but DNS has propagated now so... shrug

djsmiley2k

hmmmm

/me should understand the error code better first

Journeyman Geek

turns out my desktop backups have been down the past week

Burgi

wtf... toys r us is in administration

Journeyman Geek

14:33

has been a while

Journeyman Geek

14:54

@Burgi its a do anything on a day hat

jokerdino

@djsmiley2k don't doxx me pal

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