Root Access

Bob

00:16

Ford Fiesta Shopping Centre Chase - Top Gear - BBC

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CoderCat

00:30

how do I stop windows from fucking rebooting whenever it wants

I have disabled this many times yet it still fucking does it

win 10

Journeyman Geek

shrug question for the main site. Also LANGUAGE!

Ben N

392

Q: How to *disable* automatic reboots in Windows 10?

Windows 10 lets you 'schedule' a reboot for later. I want to disable it. Evidently Windows scheduled itself for a reboot last night when I wasn't looking and just closed everything I had been working on the night before. I reboot on the regular; I don't need Windows to do that for me. Can I di...

windows-10

There's a handful of alleged solutions there, not sure if they'll all work nowadays

CoderCat

I'll take a look thanks

Journeyman Geek

I wonder if the notepad trick still works ;p

CoderCat

bush hid the facts?

Ben N

00:42

IIRC I had a solid solution on my other machine, but that might have only worked because it's Pro

CoderCat

ive got ultimate here

Ben N

All I did was make it not download updates without my consent using Group Policy

There's also "No auto-restart with logged on users for scheduled automatic updates installations" (Microsoft.Policies.WindowsUpdate:NoAutoRebootWithLoggedOnUsers_Title) but they might have killed that in 1607; I kept it on just in case it does something

Journeyman Geek

There's no windows 10 ultimate AFAIK?

Ben N

Correct

CoderCat

oh, pro then

Journeyman Geek

00:49

there's home, pro, pro workstation, enterprise and education

CoderCat

there is now a new version

windows 10 smashed up edition

DavidPostill

01:07

@JourneymanGeek You missed Pro Education, Enterprise LTSB, Mobile Enterprise, Mobile, IoT, S and Team ;)

Journeyman Geek

Team?

Ben N

See also: the enormous chart on this MSDN page

DavidPostill

> Windows 10 Team is a device-specific version of Windows 10 loaded onto the Surface Hub.

Journeyman Geek

Ahh

allquixotic

01:27

man, they've put out a lot of different editions of Windows over the years

> Windows Essential Business Server Security Server

Journeyman Geek

01:45

@rahuldottech fwiw ~~ash~~ I have an entry in the hat contest :p

CoderCat

why do people write int printf instead of just printf sometimes

or printf("%d"); //int

allquixotic

@CoderCat int printf as actual code?

or int x = printf(...)?

CoderCat

int printf ( const char * format, ... );

allquixotic

@CoderCat that's the declaration of a printf function; it's not an invocation of printf

CoderCat

oh

what is format?

allquixotic

01:59

@CoderCat just the name of a variable; it can be omitted and the behavior is the same

CoderCat

oh ok

allquixotic

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Q: Longer range wireless headphones for gaming

I am looking for a pair of headphones and/or a Bluetooth transceiver or base station that matches all criteria in at least one of the criteria groups below, as well as all of the Hard Requirements. Please note: This request is not only about Bluetooth; I am open to considering non-Bluetooth wire...

headphones

@Bob @JourneymanGeek FYI headphone friends

I'm afraid the answer is "you're SOL"

Bob

@allquixotic What was wrong with the headphones that do have the range?

Oh missed some of the cons

Sounds like... almost there?

allquixotic

> Pairing with Bluetooth transceivers like the Avantree Priva III, Creative BT-W2, etc. is a nightmare. Extremely difficult, takes 5-10 minutes of repeated trial and error. My Bluetooth environment is unfortunately clogged with a few devices that constantly are in pairing mode (and I can't ask their owner to turn them off), which "steal" the transceiver from my headphones.

if that weren't the case, then the Beats (your favorite brand!) would actually be perfect

that's kinda why I had NFC in one or two of the criteria groups; I was like, "if I can get a Class 1 transmitter and headphones that both have NFC, I'll be set!"

Bob

I should probably go mow the lawn before the clouds all go

bbl

@allquixotic that sounds broken

your environment, I mean

you should go pair those devices and start broadcasting questionable sounds over them, preferably at max volume

allquixotic

05:11

@Bob Ok, but isn't the design of the devices a bit broken if they can basically be DoS'ed by a single device that leaves itself in discovery mode all the time?

Journeyman Geek

@allquixotic my experience with wireless headphones involves... washing machines failling down chairs?

allquixotic

@JourneymanGeek lol

Journeyman Geek

Unrelatedly, the last bit of reputation to unlocking a new privilege feels like it takes forever ._.

On any site ;p

bwDraco

06:08

@djsmiley2k It's installed through Shield Studies: support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/shield

To prevent this from happening again, clear the Allow Firefox to install and run studies checkbox in Options > Privacy & Security.

Shield is normally used for testing new features (maybe @Bob will know more about it), but somebody at Mozilla thought it was a good idea to use it for marketing purposes.

Bob

@djsmiley2k (cc @DavidPostill, @Ave, @bwDraco) should be noted that although the addon does get auto-installed, it's not active unless someone manually goes to about:config and toggles extensions.pug.lookingglass. It's basically an easter egg.

bwDraco

I suspect Mozilla, despite rising revenue, is still looking for more money. It's giving me the impression that they are desperate to compete against Chrome and to get as much money as it can before Google kills them. (The default search engine is now Google once again, and Mozilla is in a legal battle with Yahoo/Verizon because they terminated their agreement with them.)

Bob

Also "installs adverts" is a bit strong, considering it was effectively invisible unless someone goes and toggles it, at which point it ... messes with webpages in a way that's not even remotely related to the thing it's supposedly advertising unless you're already familiar with it :\

bwDraco

Mozilla's trying not to rely too much on Google. They could drop them at any time precisely because they make a competing browser.

@Bob It's treated as a user study and is enabled on a small subset of Firefox installations.

Bob

That said, it was a stupid PR move, considering how media likes ot run with this kind of thing.

@bwDraco Hm? No.

The addon is installed via the shield channel. The addon is not automatically activated, afaik.

bwDraco

06:17

I've since pulled out of Shield Studies. Normally, I allow telemetry because it helps Mozilla improve their browser (and I have used their public telemetry data in the past), but I can no longer expect Shield to be used solely for research or testing purposes if it's being used for marketing.

Again, this smells of desperation for revenue, despite a healthy-looking balance sheet.

It's like someone asked at a meeting, "Are there other ideas for strategic partnerships that are consistent with our mission? We can't rely on Google, since they can pull the plug at any time."

I think the biggest issue is that all the other major browsers are developed by commercial entities. Firefox is backed by a nonprofit whose primary revenue source is a direct competitor. Since Firefox cannot become a commercial product and Mozilla has little in the way of products or services that can generate revenue directly, they have to resort to alternative revenue sources.

Mozilla's financial position is an extremely vulnerable one, with a single point of failure. If Google pulls the plug, they will not last very long.

Bob

Looks like browser.display.truth was the original config setting, which I really can see being used as an easter egg.

@bwDraco Do we have to turn every conversation into "company X is failing because not enough money"?

Journeyman Geek

I think someone thought it would be funny/cool

Bob

that is what Hanlon's Razor suggests, yes

bwDraco

Yeah.

> Hanlon's Razor

Bob

06:32

Considering it was a TV series, I suspect the intention was to preload the addon, then some future episode could go "toggle that option!" and hey it worked!

bwDraco

Why do I keep assuming bad faith?

Bob

Especially since browser.display.truth (no longer the pref key) sounds TV-y

bwDraco

This is why I get in trouble in chat.

Journeyman Geek

also, the show actually has reasonably realistic hacking

And a dog.

bwDraco

Come to think of it, it was probably a mistake, and it was probably implemented incorrectly or the dev failed to consider the consequences.

Bob

06:34

Without evidence, I don't believe anyone's stupid enough to push an addon that flips the word "fuck" of all things

Journeyman Geek

wait

bwDraco

> Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

Journeyman Geek

that's what it did?

bwDraco

So... do I need a mod warning?

Journeyman Geek

eh

Bob

06:34

not only is it confusing (and not obvious enough to be marketing, uproar aside), but it's so freakin' obvious

Journeyman Geek

no?

bwDraco

After all, this is the primary reason I get in trouble in chat.

Bob

@bwDraco It DIDN'T DO ANYTHING unless you go and turn it on

Journeyman Geek

!!s/trouble/annoy people/

ChatBot John Cavil

@JourneymanGeek After all, this is the primary reason I get in annoy people in chat. (source)

Journeyman Geek

06:35

and people get annoyed all the time

Bob

@JourneymanGeek There was a list of "Mr Robot-related" words. "fuck" was in the list.

bwDraco

@JourneymanGeek This time, nothing serious happened, but it happens often enough that it's actively disruptive.

Bob

I highly doubt anyone was stupid enough to go and vertically flip such a common word, enabled by default without warning.

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco as constantly navel gazing for ages after that.

@Bob sounds like a hilarious prank

Bob

Problem here is twofold. The enabled state is nonobvious (because it's using a custom config key, the "addon enabled" system state is different from the "addon actually activates" addon state). And people end up getting confused over the nonobvious state.

bwDraco

06:37

@Bob An add-on that is installed automatically, even if in a disabled state, causes people to panic.

Bob

So people are discussing it being "enabled" because it's listed in the addons list as enabled ... even though it's not really "enabled" because the custom key is the first thing checked in the bootstrap.js loader

Journeyman Geek

@bwDraco right after a release that made major changes that broke many people's addons ;p

bwDraco

I think this is much ado over nothing. The media like to blow things out of proportion because it attracts viewers, and therefore advertising revenue.

This is another case of "because money".

Bob

@bwDraco I can see why some people are panicking, not helped by fairly typical "take a story and run with it" media. The only reason I'm trying to emphasise it wasn't actually doing anything was cause you said "It's treated as a user study and is enabled on a small subset of Firefox installations.".

bwDraco

Money causes so many problems, yet the world won't function without a medium of exchange.

Bob

06:40

Nor was it implemented incorrectly, afaict. The config checking barrier looks fairly solid.

bwDraco

@Bob So... as an RO, can you consider an official warning or a kick-mute the next time I assume bad faith when a plausible good-faith explanation exists?

...let's talk about this in the mod room.

Bob

I'm not kicking anyone for that. Nor warning anyone. That would be overstepping what I consider to be my boundaries.

Ben N

@Bob Woah, are those lines between the checkers actually straight?

Bob

@BenN looks like it! if you cover up the rest of the image :P

@JourneymanGeek my er-x also does hairpin nat :D

Journeyman Geek

sweet

Bob

06:49

hm

I'm currently winning that RAM bid

not sure if that's a good thing :P

incidentally, if anyone has a spare DDR3L 8GB SO-DIMM, I'll buy it

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

@JourneymanGeek too bad NUCs don't seem to have >1 RAM slot :(

Journeyman Geek

@Bob my Beebox does!

Bob

everyone has spare 4GB

no one has spare 8GB

Journeyman Geek

Also supposedly dosen't take more than 2gb sticks (I have 2x4)

Bob

06:51

@JourneymanGeek o.O

bwDraco

@Bob I have a couple. The Dragon is no longer in active use and I can remove the extra 2x8GB if you want it.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I don't even remember seeing anything with 8gb sticks ever.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek what CPU?

bwDraco

The problem is that it's going to be expensive to ship from New York to Sidney.

Bob

@bwDraco yea, come to think of it that's probably a bad idea :P

Journeyman Geek

06:51

@Bob N3150 I think

cherry trail

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ah, decent

the one I'm going for is N3160

which should be more or less the same, slightly higher clock

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I literally just run two apps on it, and sometimes a browser

I did install opera 12 on it the other day tho

Bob

@JourneymanGeek I find even apt upgrade is painful on slower CPUs

Journeyman Geek

@Bob runs ok for what I use it for

Bob

*cough*dedibox sc/xc*cough*

Journeyman Geek

06:53

other than the occational system breaking when I upgrade....

but that's fedora

Bob

though part of that is probably cause the zfs modules need to be compiled

Journeyman Geek

probably ;p

Bob

@bwDraco yea I'll probably stick to 4. Thanks though.

@JourneymanGeek I think my own laptop is 2x8 actually

haswell, iirc, so would be pre-ddr4

Journeyman Geek

ahh

Bob

but I'm still kinda using it so don't really want to cannibalise it yet :P

Journeyman Geek

06:54

I think Athena III is skylake (and presumably 1x4) , Athena II/Artemis is 2x4 as is phoebe

bwDraco

I'd have to use Priority Mail International, which would cost me some $35. Hardly worth it to ship $135 of memory.

Bob

@bwDraco yea, shipping either direction US <=> AU is crazy

I swear it'd be cheaper to send it via China

bwDraco

lol

Bob

like, I think I can send a 1kg box to China for $5, and China to US probably isn't much. Problem is I have no idea how to write Chinese (nor Chinese street addresses) soooooo :P

also it'd probably take anywhere from 2 to 24 months

Journeyman Geek

lol

@Bob Funny thing is...

we use a cheap, backalley courier to india

literally you walk into a phone shop and go "I need to send a letter to india"

Bob

06:58

@JourneymanGeek yea uh, guess how the $5/kg parcel works :P

Journeyman Geek

;p

is it slow tho?

Bob

local news agent with the price on a piece of A4 stuck to the window :P

haven't got a clue!

Journeyman Geek

I'm convinced that my DX shipments are stuck due to singles day ._.

and they arn't tracked either ._.

Bob

wasn't that, like, a month ago?

Journeyman Geek

yup ;p

apparently the local delivery places they use are still backlogged

and dpex is pretty terrible

Bob

06:59

@JourneymanGeek there's that time I ordered a bag of laptop screws. A month later I ordered another two bags. Two weeks later I had two bags. 4 months later I had 3 bags.

Journeyman Geek

Also Puppy imgur.com/gallery/7jvavxE

@Bob sounds about right ;p

good thing is at this point I'd have everything I need to order...

other than maybe a 3d printer.

;p

Bob

lol

lemme know if you find a good one

Journeyman Geek

(tempted to)

Bob

I could probably use one too

Journeyman Geek

naw, I'm looking at single gantry one

simple/cheap

Bob

07:01

@JourneymanGeek simple/cheap is good

Journeyman Geek

I don't need great precision

granted, I think I can build the thing I want off stuff off daiso and the art store ;p

bwDraco

Dammit, @Bob. You beat me to it.

Journeyman Geek

but ugh

I don't really want to spend money + no real space

I'd probably end up building a small workshop when I've moved out ;p

bwDraco

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Q: Why does Chrome sometimes download a PDF instead of opening it?

When I go to certain addresses of PDF files, Chrome downloads the PDF instead of opening it using its built-in PDF viewer. The page is then blank white. There is no problem with my Chrome settings: I try addresses of other PDF files, and Chrome behaves as expected (I have it set to use Chrome's ...

google-chrome pdf

bwDraco

07:16

(then again, I am not a professional web developer like you are, so I'm at a disadvantage with these sorts of questions)

Bob

@bwDraco whoops - it just caught my eye in the list :P

@bwDraco nice screenshot, though - have a vote

bwDraco

lol

Bob

I actually have a reverse proxy configured specifically to strip the nextcloud default attachment disposition

        location ~* ^/([^/]*?)(\..*?)?$ {
                proxy_pass files/s$1/download;
                proxy_hide_header Content-Disposition;
                add_header Content-Disposition "inline;$cd_filename_part";
        }

djsmiley2k

11:03

hum de dum

@Bob @bwDraco and you're HNQ

user226528

"HNQ" as in "highly non-qualified"?

Journeyman Geek

Hot network questions

user226528

@DavidPostill Hi. Are you aware of a Firefox add-on called "Clippings"?

DavidPostill

11:21

@FleetCommand Nope. Why do you ask?

user226528

@DavidPostill Well, a long time ago, you recommended me a very tedious way of keeping text clippings for run-of-the-mill commenting in SU. Not longer after that talk, I was introduced to Clippings. I am now extensively using it for Wikipedia purposes.

DavidPostill

@FleetCommand Hmm. Will take a look. I don't find AutoReviewComments tedious to setup or use though ...

user226528

Nah. Of course you don't. We are superusers. We revel in doing tedious stuff and don't find them tedious at all. 😉

user226528

For example, one of recurrent job responsibilities is to run to the secretary's office and restart the print spooler service to help put up with HP printers' idiosyncrasies.

DavidPostill

Well clippings doesn't support the $SITEURL$ macro which allows me to use the same comments across all 171+ sites without having n * 171 clippings - and that is what I would call tedious ;)

user226528

11:35

Well, I guess one man's meat is another man's poison.

djsmiley2k

@FleetCommand y u no script this

if not printing in last 20 minutes, restart spooler!

user226528

@djsmiley2k 20 minutes? Are you kidding? 😮 It is a secretary. She's printing every one or two minutes.

user226528

Also, you do realize that the script needs to run with admin privileges, right?

djsmiley2k

adjust minutes then

and that's a problem, why?

user226528

Nevertheless, it doesn't need scripting. Windows already supports trigger-start services.

user226528

11:45

The real problem is that the Fax service depends on it.

user226528

And I am not going to restart the Fax service unless I really have to.

Bob

@djsmiley2k o.O

Boris_yo

Any issues?

At 20 C room temperature.

Wondering what should be internal temperatures at this condition.

user226528

Your ~~goose~~ CPU is getting cooked

djsmiley2k

12:13

@Boris_yo well i don't know what your machine is

but that's a hot cpu and gpu, maybe

mine is 55C at 14C room temp

Boris_yo

Dang...

Could be thermal paste got old?

djsmiley2k

it could be many things, including it being a laptop

I don't know, because you've not specified

Boris_yo

Yes, it is a laptop.

djsmiley2k

then it looks pretty standard, without knowing what gpu and cpu it is

@Boris_yo imagine me going 'my car idles at 900rpm!' -- no one can tell anything from this statement

Boris_yo

E6420 Dell Latitude

djsmiley2k

12:16

en.community.dell.com/support-forums/laptop/f/3518/t/19442213

least ur not that guy?

Boris_yo

@djsmiley2k No. Mine is Dual-Core. Quads have thermal conductivity issue with cooler's piping.

Ave

I'm scared

restart fixed it, oof.

djsmiley2k

did u updates?

Ave

yup

rahuldottech

Journeyman Geek

12:34

@rahuldottech eh

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Anger due to the fact that Net Neutrality is the easiest to fix. I didn't even have to be fixed till like a day ago. FCC Idiots.

Journeyman Geek

@rahuldottech well from a certain point of view

they've gotten exactly what they wanted

rahuldottech

@JourneymanGeek Which is not what people want

Journeyman Geek

and since its by an unelected official and congress is controlled by the party that appointed him - there's little that can be done

Well until people start setting pirate ISPs with wet string or something

but but

its something changable.

and something that people feel affects them

YOU CAN TAKE OUR LIVES, BUT YOU CAN NEVER TAKE OUR CAT MACROS!

djsmiley2k

@rahuldottech lol you htink the goverment exists for the people?

@JourneymanGeek hahaha

Ave

12:58

I'm playing rocket league for the first time in 2 years

rahuldottech

13:10

@Ave I love that game

So many memories related to it

djsmiley2k

might see ya on it

rahuldottech

@djsmiley2k I cannot, however, afford the original

And I haven't played it since mom took my laptop away

djsmiley2k

:(

i got it free on psn

Ave

I'm playing it with uh

Let's just say "a friend" bc I don't feel likeexplaining some stuff

rahuldottech

The pirated version never let me play online

So I only ever played against AI

Or pseudo-AI

Whichever it is

djsmiley2k

13:21

ah pft

completely diff online tbhb, also item trading is kinda fun

Bob

14:55

@JourneymanGeek just found this aliexpress.com/item/…

Broadwell-U, anyone? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

hm

so it comes down to 3215U or N3160

Broadwell-U or Braswell

Journeyman Geek

I'd lean towards the braswell for this

but I'm all about ludicious main machines and low low low powered main machines

Bob

ark.intel.com/compare/91831,91831,84810

@JourneymanGeek Any particular reason?

considering price is about the same

grabted, the braswell one comes from a more reputable seller...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob and lower TDP

Bob

14:58

hm. the Broadwell-U has a surprisingly high TDP

Journeyman Geek

hm

Bob

and doesn't do AES-NI?!

what?

I'm... shocked

Journeyman Geek

this is 'only' going to control your APs right?

Bob

@JourneymanGeek as a first use, yea

might end up chucking more on it over time, but nothing particularly heavy

every time I see someone link to cpuboss I die a little inside

Journeyman Geek

Pondering the second lan port.

Bob

15:03

@JourneymanGeek they both have two LAN ports

the broadwell-u is hdmi + vga

the braswell is dp + 2x hdmi

Journeyman Geek

Or the need for it at all

Bob

@JourneymanGeek well... it's not like the boxes with only a single port are any better or cheaper

unless you're suggesting one of the embedded atoms?

djsmiley2k

hmm

Journeyman Geek

yup

Bob

hm

Journeyman Geek

15:05

actually not really sure why I need a 4 port one either ;p

could move over an existing gigabit switch I suppose

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yea uh... don't try to use it as a switch

like, seriously - get a proper switch, managed or not, for LAN switching

cause bridged ports are hell on the CPU (and performance)

Journeyman Geek

@Bob I'm sure I had a good reason, which I don't remember now

lol

Bob

even though the x86 CPUs should handle it, they'll probably run a bit hot

@JourneymanGeek they're good if you actually want extra networks

Journeyman Geek

@Bob was going to throw it on a i3 model

Bob

and you need at least two ports if you want to route properly

jamming two networks on one port is a bit of a pain

especially if you don't have VLANs

Journeyman Geek

15:07

@Bob my network is "simple"

Bob

@JourneymanGeek yea but even in the simple WAN + LAN case you have two

I'm only using 3 for my moderately complex network

Journeyman Geek

ya, but a 2 port one's probably easier

Bob

(granted, an extra VLAN'd network on one of them)

@JourneymanGeek yea, but I think the only diff between 2 and 4 port is the 2 port ones tend to have more USB ports

Journeyman Geek

right now, I'm kinda using one port off the router for my NAS and one to the homeplug setup

Bob

@JourneymanGeek do you want them to be on the same LAN?

Journeyman Geek

15:11

not really bothered

ideally I'd just go to a switch and out to all the rooms over ethernet ;p

also seems like a fun project ._.

lol

I've not done anything like that in a while

Bob

@JourneymanGeek If you do, use a switch. If you don't, use a router. Not that hard :P

@JourneymanGeek ordered the braswell :P

8GB RAM + 128 GB SSD

might as well go for the full kit

well, that was a quick (and totally unexpected) repcap o.O

Journeyman Geek

nice ;p

got 25k on MSE ;p

Sidar

15:28

Not sure if this is the place to ask but I have a specific folder in which I put stand alone executables. But when I windows search they aren't found ( windows key -> type to search ). Added it to indexing but with no effect. Anyone have some advice?

Bob

@Sidar How long have you waited?

Indexing can take a couple of minutes.

Sidar

2 months

Bob

o.O

Sidar

I've done it a while ago, just reminded me it never worked

Bob

You can try asking on the main site, but check if there's an existing question

Sidar

15:31

ill check

Bob

you could also try rebuilding the index just in case

Sidar

yeah just did that, no effect

Bob

where is this folder, anyway?

Sidar

e:\Software\

e being my secondary drive

Bob

probably not in an exclusion then

Sidar

15:34

meaning that there are specific spots that are xcluded?

Bob

@Sidar nah, default only excludes users appdata (because it includes user profiles around it)

Bob

16:20

o.O

[Black MIDI] Synthesia – "Nyan Trololol" | Rainbow Tylenol & Nyan Cat Remix ~ BusiedGem

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Ave

black midi is good

check out tsmb2's stuff

All Star piano remix but every time he says star, it gets more impossible

►

this is a fun one.

[Black MIDI] - Black MIDI Trilogy ~ Movement 2 | TSMB2

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this, however, is my fave

Bob

16:41

@Ave ooh, nicely done

though I would've been happy with just the first bit :P

I need an extended version of that

Ave

[Black MIDI] - 9KX2 | 18 MILLION NOTES!! | TSMB2

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now this

this is golden

Bob

that looks like a bullet hell game :P

actually I kinda want to see that in audiosurf

djsmiley2k

18:12

@Ave they sound like crap to me :(

Like i don't get it.

:/

also get orf mah lawn!

djsmiley2k

19:33

Not sure if a troll or just an idiot

user657451

262 1 7

linux hard-drive boot windows-10 windows-7 multi-boot virtual-machine

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A: Want to prevent accidental shutdowns, reboot, etc by aliasing commands such as shutdown

Ok so the 'correct' approach is to not give these users sudo, but it seems like this is one of those situations you can't avoid giving the users this access (Lets say you did stop them running shutdown, they might just rm -rf /* instead) However, to stop them running specific commands via sudo, ...

djsmiley2k

19:49

new hat for everyone is live

DavidPostill

@djsmiley2k ???

djsmiley2k

I meant to link his comments xD

I never asked. "Give a man a fish..." and all that. The command given in my answer (line 1) is a self contained solution. — user657451 Nov 10 '16 at 23:22

which I'd like to flag as NAA but...

bwDraco

20:57

[status-norepro] meta.superuser.com/questions/12819/…

A mod might want to retag this.

djsmiley2k

erm

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